So looking at the specs for the Mate 9, it looks like even though it's advertised as GSM unlocked only, the MHA-L29 model has all the CDMA radios to make it work on a US network like Verizon. This seems similar to the Axon 7. I know it's only just come out in the US, but I'm curious if anybody is planning on trying it on Verizon or another CDMA network. I have Verizon and the Mate 9 looks like an amazing phone, but I don't want to drop $600 on it without being relatively sure it'll actually work.
Have you asked Verizon if they are going to sell or support it?
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Have you asked Verizon if they are going to sell or support it?
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Even if they don't it would be still usable on their network. That is, IF it has the proper CDMA for Verizon and/or Sprint. Like the Axon 7, it will show "roaming" but will work fine. I think it will be a matter of waiting until someone tries it. I would totally do it but no Best Buy within 250 miles of me has one in stock.
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Even if they don't it would be still usable on their network. That is, IF it has the proper CDMA for Verizon and/or Sprint. Like the Axon 7, it will show "roaming" but will work fine. I think it will be a matter of waiting until someone tries it. I would totally do it but no Best Buy within 250 miles of me has one in stock.
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been trying. won't work.
got the axon 7 to work, though call reception wasn't as good as pixel and no data during calls.
Thanks for the definitive info!
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Thanks for the definitive info!
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yea it's too bad. i'd been looking forward to this phone for a long time.
screen is awesome, really bright, super fast. way more responsive than the pixel.
speaker sucks, but so does the pixel's.
i don't get the point of launching in the US to only half of the potential customers.
I keep pressing sprint to accept it. Otherwise our 2 accounts will be bought out via another carrier. Where i work i get a big discount on Verizon so i can get a huge plan for less, better speeds n service etc.
OR ill have Tmo buy it out
It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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Interesting. So the radio could work but it's restricted somehow? Still a bummer... [emoji16]
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It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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really interesting, thanks.
18-24 months is a crazy long time. not sure where they get that.
one of innumerable articles about the Pixel is that it took 9 mos to build, start to finish.
and I think there was also a short timeline for the S6 after Samsung ditched the 810.
not gonna argue w/AnandTech, but I am curious how that works.
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one of innumerable articles about the Pixel is that it took 9 mos to build, start to finish.
and I think there was also a short timeline for the S6 after Samsung ditched the 810.
not gonna argue w/AnandTech, but I am curious how that works.
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It's not about the phone, it's the chipset. Qualcomm has a lot of CDMA technology IP, so phones that use CDMA either have needed to use Qualcomm's chips, or pay them royalties. I believe the Kirin 960 is one of the first non-Qualcomm chips to natively support CDMA. But the FCC has to approve it's use in the US. I believe this is why Samsung has used their own Exynos chips in their phones in other markets, but uses Qualcomm's chips in phones destined to the US... it's cheaper and/or easier to just buy Qualcomm's chips that have already been approved.
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It's not about the phone, it's the chipset. Qualcomm has a lot of CDMA technology IP, so phones that use CDMA either have needed to use Qualcomm's chips, or pay them royalties. I believe the Kirin 960 is one of the first non-Qualcomm chips to natively support CDMA. But the FCC has to approve it's use in the US. I believe this is why Samsung has used their own Exynos chips in their phones in other markets, but uses Qualcomm's chips in phones destined to the US... it's cheaper and/or easier to just buy Qualcomm's chips that have already been approved.
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oh ok, that make sense.
so when Samsung skipped the 810 completely in the S6/Note 5 and just went with their Exynos, they still used Qualcomm's radios for the Sprint/Verizon versions.
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so when Samsung skipped the 810 completely in the S6/Note 5 and just went with their Exynos, they still used Qualcomm's radios for the Sprint/Verizon versions.
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Here are a couple articles about that...
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...mm-inc-totally-out-of-the-samsung-galaxy.aspx
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-qualcomm-4g-sticker-your-galaxy-s6
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Here are a couple articles about that...
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...mm-inc-totally-out-of-the-samsung-galaxy.aspx
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-qualcomm-4g-sticker-your-galaxy-s6
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good stuff, thanks!
so if it is technically possible to run this on Sprint (thinking Project FI which uses TMobile and Sprint 90% of the time), then is there a way to force the device to use the CDMA modem for the US Dual-band models (L29)? Is this a matter of Sprint rejecting the IMEI (akin to verizon) due to the chipset not "qualified" for use by FCC, or is it somehow disabled in the device? IF this is something turned off at the device (because it was shipped to US?), is there a custom ROM / Firmware that can be used to enable it? I'd really like to keep FI but right now my shiny new device wont switch over from TMobile to Sprint. #Pissed.
I'm bought in at this point, so if theres a way to do it, I'll do whatever is necessary, including voiding warranty.
my impression was the CDMA was for China DATA and not a voice CDMA. I bought 2 of the mate 9s but I may have to sell out - ATT covers 99% of the people - as long as they are in metro areas. Disapointing, I love these phones.......
It's never going to happen
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It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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While it may be CDMA compatible I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it ever to be here in the US, Huawei hasn't even been updating the US model of the mate 9 (last security patch was from May), and as far as I can tell the mate 10 is the last one with a US model, none of the new honor phones are US, just international models. With the BS from the government and the lack of support for US customers I think Huawei is a dead horse as far as we are concerned
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So the unlocked One A9 has me intrigued, as it seems like the right device to replace my aging One M8 while waiting for my 2 year upgrade in April. I'm hoping we'll see some decent carrier subsidized Snapdragon 820 devices by mid 2016, but if I need to wait longer the A9 can tide me over. I like that for $399, I get 32GB plus expandable storage, something that I can't get for that price with either the Nexus 5X or Moto X Pure Edition.
My dilemma is trying to figure out if Verizon support "coming December" means we'll actually get CDMA in addition to LTE bands with the software update. The preorder price of $399 only goes to November 7, so it's a bit of a gamble for Verizon customers. Based on the spec sheet, I'm assuming there are 2 different SKUs when it comes to radio/antenna support: the Unlocked/AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon version, and the Sprint version. Only the Sprint version lists support for CDMA, but notice they reference 3 bands: BC0, BC1, and BC10. My understanding is that Sprint supports BC1 and BC10, while Verizon supports BC0 and BC1.
So did HTC just leave off the CDMA support from the Unlocked/ATT/TMo/Verizon spec sheet pending the software update? Are the 2 SKUs actually physically distinct (I know Qualcomm uses soft radios now but antennas may still need to be configured differently?) There are 2 other possibilities--Verizon could be getting a unique SKU of their own in December (with LTE + CDMA) or you may be left with VoLTE only. Since this isn't a "branded" phone and requirements have changed, VoLTE only is possible but I can't imagine consumers would be happy with it. And it doesn't make sense that Sprint would get their own SKU when a bigger market like Verizon doesn't?
Samsies
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So the unlocked One A9 has me intrigued, as it seems like the right device to replace my aging One M8 while waiting for my 2 year upgrade in April. I'm hoping we'll see some decent carrier subsidized Snapdragon 820 devices by mid 2016, but if I need to wait longer the A9 can tide me over. I like that for $399, I get 32GB plus expandable storage, something that I can't get for that price with either the Nexus 5X or Moto X Pure Edition.
My dilemma is trying to figure out if Verizon support "coming December" means we'll actually get CDMA in addition to LTE bands with the software update. The preorder price of $399 only goes to November 7, so it's a bit of a gamble for Verizon customers. Based on the spec sheet, I'm assuming there are 2 different SKUs when it comes to radio/antenna support: the Unlocked/AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon version, and the Sprint version. Only the Sprint version lists support for CDMA, but notice they reference 3 bands: BC0, BC1, and BC10. My understanding is that Sprint supports BC1 and BC10, while Verizon supports BC0 and BC1.
So did HTC just leave off the CDMA support from the Unlocked/ATT/TMo/Verizon spec sheet pending the software update? Are the 2 SKUs actually physically distinct (I know Qualcomm uses soft radios now but antennas may still need to be configured differently?) There are 2 other possibilities--Verizon could be getting a unique SKU of their own in December (with LTE + CDMA) or you may be left with VoLTE only. Since this isn't a "branded" phone and requirements have changed, VoLTE only is possible but I can't imagine consumers would be happy with it. And it doesn't make sense that Sprint would get their own SKU when a bigger market like Verizon doesn't?
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Im in the exact same boat. I am still not getting straight answers from anybody I'm asking. If you run an unlocked version on Verizon and be forced to LTE usage only, that isn't gonna cut it. I drop to 3g all the time. Would they say hunt for WiFi? I have spoke with a rep from HTC and she told me Verizon is going to release their own version. And that she did NOT recommend to purchase the unlocked a9 and expect to get full features from the network. Ive heard people asking Verizon reps and they are saying the phone will work with the CDMA span. I'm not sure who knows what
Im copying this from HTCs page .
Network1
Unlocked, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE:<:strong> FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
Sprint: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE: FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
Some info here:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-A9-will-be-available-on-Verizon-in-December_id75199
Aloha,
I have decided to bring this back to the forefront as the month of December is here. I purchased the a9 and yes I'm on the Vzw network. I have called HTC and asked when the compatibility software release for vzw be available. It's funny because HTC tells me vzw will release it and to check with them. I called vzw and the tell me they know nothing about software to be release for a non vzw phone. Can I get a straight answer from HTC? What's the deal??! Has anyone else contacted HTC ?? Would you care to share their response to you.
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Aloha,
I have decided to bring this back to the forefront as the month of December is here. I purchased the a9 and yes I'm on the Vzw network. I have called HTC and asked when the compatibility software release for vzw be available. It's funny because HTC tells me vzw will release it and to check with them. I called vzw and the tell me they know nothing about software to be release for a non vzw phone. Can I get a straight answer from HTC? What's the deal?! Has anyone else contacted HTC ?? Would you care to share their response to you.
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I'm in the same boat here. I purchased my phone to use on the VZ network. Im using my M7 to hold me over. Hoping i didnt purchase i paper weight
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I'm in the same boat here. I purchased my phone to use on the VZ network. Im using my M7 to hold me over. Hoping i didnt purchase i paper weight
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Mahalo for your input. I hope this thread gets enough attention to where HTC will either honor the returns from VZW customers or provide the update soon. We need to continue to push HTC for a quick resolution!
They sent an email a few weeks ago saying support for Verizon was going to be delayed, with no ETA...so it's a no-go for December...lucky if we see it by January/February.
Shoot, let me have the update so I can test it for goodness sakes!!! VZW sucks...I'm bailing on them in 12 months...done with it.
Called HTC today to find out what the latest news for the VZW software compatible release is at. They told me that it will be sometime in the first quarter of 2016?. They couldn't give an exact date just first quarter. I told the rep that I would like to see if they can start the refund process. The rep told me that since I bought the phone in November that the time elapsed to start a refund. REALLY... I told the rep I haven't been able to use the phone and for HTC now saying first quarter... this means that it might be up to 6 months after purchase before I could even use the phone. I'm taking it to the next level and plan to call a higher up in the food chain. I have been using HTC phones for years, and don't understand how you can say that the phone is VZW compatible and continue to delay. This should have all been worked out prior to launch. They would have been better off saying that this phone is not for VZW. If this is the stance HTC is going to take with VZW customers they just lost my business!
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Called HTC today to find out what the latest news for the VZW software compatible release is at. They told me that it will be sometime in the first quarter of 2016. They couldn't give an exact date just first quarter. I told the rep that I would like to see if they can start the refund process. The rep told me that since I bought the phone in November that the time elapsed to start a refund. REALLY... I told the rep I haven't been able to use the phone and for HTC now saying first quarter... this means that it might be up to 6 months after purchase before I could even use the phone. I'm taking it to the next level and plan to call a higher up in the food chain. I have been using HTC phones for years, and don't understand how you can say that the phone is VZW compatible and continue to delay. This should have all been worked out prior to launch. They would have been better off saying that this phone is not for VZW. If this is the stance HTC is going to take with VZW customers they just lost my business!
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Good point. It should have been worked out prior to launch. But check this out. I put my VZW sim in today and I get 4g LTE BUT I can not make phone calls .Only surf the net. I never noticed that before.
jbea007 said:
Good point. It should have been worked out prior to launch. But check this out. I put my VZW sim in today and I get 4g LTE BUT I can not make phone calls .Only surf the net. I never noticed that before.
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That was my exact fear...I ended up getting a Moto X Pure instead for the CDMA support. The issue is that VoLTE (what Verizon calls "Advanced Calling 1.0") isn't supported on unlocked (non-Verizon) devices yet. Case in point...my Moto X Pure won't support VoLTE even though its fully capable of it. Why Verizon doesn't support yet...I'm not sure. I think eventually they *have* to allow VoLTE on unlocked devices to comply with FCC conditions on the 700mhz spectrum. I'm guessing that's what is delaying HTC's support--probably has nothing to do with HTC, but they're waiting for Verizon to expand support.
Glad when I switched over to VZW 12 months ago, I took advantage of the discounts for switching, got wife/kids new iPhones on payment plan, just buy my phones outright, but I'm in a no-comitment contract for them. Only thing is the iPhones we owe 12 months of payments on. So really, I can just pay the difference/payoff of the iPhone, and walk away from Verizon.
Right now, I put a cricket plan/sim on my A9 just to use it and have an operational phone. At this rate from what you guys have said/HTC is saying, VZW is a black hole and useless carrier.
Probably jumping ship, going back to ATT...with the offers to leave carriers/promos...no reason to stay with VZW. We are stuck with the 10GB share plan from 12 months ago they ran to attract people from other carriers. Now, TMo and a few are offering even more data, and just need to leave your carrier.
Every month we are busting through it and getting additional charges. Just need to run away from VZW. Nothing really wrong with the service/performance, but it is nothing but problems for their phones/devices like Android. This entire HTC One A9 is a classic VZW problem for Android users. Phones/devices have support for their network (the A9 supposedly soon), but the carrier/VZW is the problem. Not to mention all the other issues with VZW, updates blah blah and their control freak nature.
No contract = bye-bye VZW for me soon. Shoot, I can likely just switch to another carrier, get a $1/month iPhone for wife/kids each, pay off their phones, and put them up for sales and walk away from VZW for basically a break-even, BUT, have three new iPhone 6s for them. At this rate, maybe I will go back to the iPhone...the v3 was the last one I owned...rofl.
Yeah...Anyway....first quarter...pfffft. Done with your Verizon..and HTC is about to chase me away as well at this rate.
Rant over!!!!
jakesteed said:
That was my exact fear...I ended up getting a Moto X Pure instead for the CDMA support. The issue is that VoLTE (what Verizon calls "Advanced Calling 1.0") isn't supported on unlocked (non-Verizon) devices yet. Case in point...my Moto X Pure won't support VoLTE even though its fully capable of it.
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The Moto X Pure does support Verizon VoLTE. I've been using it since launch.
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jbea007 said:
Good point. It should have been worked out prior to launch. But check this out. I put my VZW sim in today and I get 4g LTE BUT I can not make phone calls .Only surf the net. I never noticed that before.
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Do you have advanced calling enabled on your account? Make sure it is then check in the phone settings to see if VoLTE or enhanced 4glte mode is on
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The Moto X Pure does support Verizon VoLTE. I've been using it since launch.
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Do you have advanced calling enabled on your account? Make sure it is then check in the phone settings to see if VoLTE or enhanced 4glte mode is on
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Well I'll be a monkey's uncle... Sure enough just had to add the feature to my account and power cycle...VoLTE is now on!
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jakesteed said:
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle... Sure enough just had to add the feature to my account and power cycle...VoLTE is now on!
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Aloha jakesteed,
So let me get this straight your VZW and your running A9 on vollte? No software update required?
Mahalo
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devilman30 said:
Aloha jakesteed,
So let me get this straight your VZW and your running A9 on vollte? No software update required?
Mahalo
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Sorry, not an A9 but a Moto X Pure Edition. I passed on the A9.
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Has anyone been successful at activating the A9 on Verizon yet?
HungrryEzhik said:
Has anyone been successful at activating the A9 on Verizon yet?
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Still waiting for HTC to release software update to VZW.
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devilman30 said:
Still waiting for HTC to release software update to VZW.
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Why wait? Just put your sim in and enable VoLTE/"Advanced Calling 1.0" on my.verizon.com as sprke suggested.
^There's no option for 1.0 VoLTE calling on their site. They call it HD Voice, which is the VoLTE, and it doesn't work even enabled on my phone.
techlogik said:
^There's no option for 1.0 VoLTE calling on their site. They call it HD Voice, which is the VoLTE, and it doesn't work even enabled on my phone.
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Yes, it's seems they renamed "Advanced Calling 1.0" to "HD Voice", but it doesn't matter, both are just how they call VoLTE.
What do you mean it doesn't work? What happens if you make a call?
Did you enable Enhanced 4G LTE Mode in Cellular network settings? Also try to reboot the phone.
EDIT: Correction, it's Mobile Data -> Voice over LTE, not Cellular network settings -> Enhanced 4G LTE Mode.
Another thing to try:
1. Enter the hidden menu using *#*#4636#*#*
2. Go in to Phone information
3. Click the TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG button (wont change)
4. Click the TURN OFF RADIO button
5. Wait a few seconds (for radio to turn off) and then click the TURN ON RADIO button
6. Observe that the TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG button has changed to TURN OFF
7. Make sure VoLTE is turned on in the menu
Has anyone tried using this on verizon in the us.?
Anyone??
Verizon sim will not work. Sorry.
Oh man... I really hate that.
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why wont wok?
ilbambino said:
why wont wok?
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Think its a mixture of verizon being verizon and qualcomm having a monopoly with cpu/network in the usa.
Correct me if im wrong but it takes like a year for cpu chipsets to pass fcc(brainfart) in the usa.
Similar to companies like samsung use their own chips outside usa and qualcomm in usa.
intruda119 said:
Think its a mixture of verizon being verizon and qualcomm having a monopoly with cpu/network in the usa.
Correct me if im wrong but it takes like a year for cpu chipsets to pass fcc(brainfart) in the usa.
Similar to companies like samsung use their own chips outside usa and qualcomm in usa.
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make sense, I tested on my mate 9 and I was able to get internet working after adding the APN manually but could not receive calls or sms, internet seems to be unstable depending on where you are. I googled for a while and it seems that maybe will work in some areas.
has any one tried this lately? I wonder if Verizon sim will now work with mate 9?
I have been excited about this phone coming to the US for some time now, long time fan of the + sized Galaxy Note range. I can't find any straight answers about if the Mate 9 will work on Sprints 4g network or not at this point. If there is no simple Yes/No answer to that I would greatly appreciate being pointed in the right direction outlining the steps I may have to take. Thanks everyone!
Unless there is a sprint-specific version released, you could expect 4G data but no phone calls in the very best case scenario, and no data, no phone calls in the very worst scenario.
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Unless there is a sprint-specific version released, you could expect 4G data but no phone calls in the very best case scenario, and no data, no phone calls in the very worst scenario.
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I see. So it sounds like I should give up on having one of these as it seems the best case scenario involves a phone that can't make calls.
I would wait to see what happens when it's released in the US. The Kirin 960 is CDMA compatible, but I believe it still has to pass certification to use it in the US.
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I would wait to see what happens when it's released in the US. The Kirin 960 is CDMA compatible, but I believe it still has to pass certification to use it in the US.
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Sprint doesn't use CDMA I have heard so it's looking grim for me on that network, maybe I'll consider changing to a different network, well see what happens Jan 6th but we're pretty close already and no good news on that front.
January 9th is supposed to be the official North American release, so you could just wait until then to see if what models are released. Not too far away really. But it is unlikely that a Sprint-compatible version will come out. Time to decide what you want more, the Mate 9, or to be a Sprint customer? If you're were willing to pay full price for the phone anyway (which I'm assuming you were), why not switch to AT&T or T-Mo prepaid?
jjbuckley said:
Sprint doesn't use CDMA I have heard
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http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/0...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
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January 9th is supposed to be the official North American release, so you could just wait until then to see if what models are released. Not too far away really. But it is unlikely that a Sprint-compatible version will come out. Time to decide what you want more, the Mate 9, or to be a Sprint customer? If you're were willing to pay full price for the phone anyway (which I'm assuming you were), why not switch to AT&T or T-Mo prepaid?
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I may switch, the reason to stay is actually a pretty good one and that's that as long as I'm on Sprint my phone bill is pretty much free month to month. I want this phone badly but maybe not bad enough to give that up
jjbuckley said:
I may switch, the reason to stay is actually a pretty good one and that's that as long as I'm on Sprint my phone bill is pretty much free month to month. I want this phone badly but maybe not bad enough to give that up
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Hey man, that's probably the best reason to NOT switch! And It's January 6th for the official NA release, not the 9th as I previously wrote. See here: http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-9-us-launch-january-6-735313/
I asked Huawei about Verizon and they said I would need to wait for the US release to know if it would be Verizon compatible. I'm betting that's a soft "no"...
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I asked Huawei about Verizon and they said I would need to wait for the US release to know if it would be Verizon compatible. I'm betting that's a soft "no"...
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As I mentioned earlier, the hardware is capable. But this quote from Anandtech questions when it will be certified:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
dscline said:
As I mentioned earlier, the hardware is capable. But this quote from Anandtech questions when it will be certified:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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Thank you for that info. I did not see it before.
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It seems that S8/S8+ from AT&T as well as the unlocked SM-G955U have band 30
However the G955F and G955FD seem to not have it...
Question to International version buyers and that have AT&T, how much do you care about band 30?
Do you believe their will be a Dual sim phone with band 30 launched at future date?
Does the International model have band 12? I checked Samsung UAE and it lists band 12 but on Amazon it doesn't have it.
FrenchJo67 said:
It seems that S8/S8+ from AT&T as well as the unlocked SM-G955U have band 30
However the G955F and G955FD seem to not have it...
Question to International version buyers and that have AT&T, how much do you care about band 30?
Do you believe their will be a Dual sim phone with band 30 launched at future date?
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Would be nice but probably never going to happen
solojazz said:
Does the International model have band 12? I checked Samsung UAE and it lists band 12 but on Amazon it doesn't have it.
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yes it has band 12.
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3292117
From experience using the international version on any USA carrier can be risky. If you live in a big city you should get normal service most of the time. You won't be able to get the carrier aggregation that AT&T uses band 30 for though so when the network is congested your service will be noticeably effected.
Also if it is still missing any of the low bands you will have a hard time getting a good signal in rural areas as well. For the most part you will want to make sure you have access to Bands: 2, 4, 12, 17. that will cover the majority of your needs. Bands 29, and 30 really only come in with the carrier aggregation. but without them you will notice slower speeds or no signal at all at big events.
I tried out an international S7e after I had to relinquish my Note 7, for me it was not worth it. Root is becoming less needed now, custom ROMs break TOO much functionality (Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Work Email, Banking Apps, etc) and the things I loved root for, display scaling, ad blocking, Viper4Android, Themes, are becoming less needed, due to compatible things being offered on stock. Just not worth it anymore for slight tweaks and marginal performance increases.
ShrekOpher said:
From experience using the international version on any USA carrier can be risky. If you live in a big city you should get normal service most of the time. You won't be able to get the carrier aggregation that AT&T uses band 30 for though so when the network is congested your service will be noticeably effected.
Also if it is still missing any of the low bands you will have a hard time getting a good signal in rural areas as well. For the most part you will want to make sure you have access to Bands: 2, 4, 12, 17. that will cover the majority of your needs. Bands 29, and 30 really only come in with the carrier aggregation. but without them you will notice slower speeds or no signal at all at big events.
I tried out an international S7e after I had to relinquish my Note 7, for me it was not worth it. Root is becoming less needed now, custom ROMs break TOO much functionality (Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Work Email, Banking Apps, etc) and the things I loved root for, display scaling, ad blocking, Viper4Android, Themes, are becoming less needed, due to compatible things being offered on stock. Just not worth it anymore for slight tweaks and marginal performance increases.
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What you've said here gets me thinking, I don't want to root I just want better battery life which if it's like the s7 launch the exynos had much better battery life but if they're the same what else are the differences should I just buy it from T-Mobile in the states?
solojazz said:
What you've said here gets me thinking, I don't want to root I just want better battery life which if it's like the s7 launch the exynos had much better battery life but if they're the same what else are the differences should I just buy it from T-Mobile in the states?
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Well I made a drastic decision last night and got the AT&T version at Best Buy, they have a $35 14 day return policy. So I thought I can always return it and get an International version.
12 hours into s8+ 955U, I am impressed. It runs much smoother as my s7e 128gb G9350 black pearl .... was worried that like with the s7e I was going to feel more of these little delays that I had on s7e snapdragon but not on Exynos... this is not the case.
Other comments:
- smartlinked transfered, contacts, pictures, sms, etc but only 70% of the apps...
- Like everything except that the finger printer scanner location will take me another few days to unlock efficiently...
Oh and my 9 year told me, "Dad, why did you tell mom that you bought a new phone, it looks exactly the same as before just a little longer, she would never have noticed!"
FrenchJo67 said:
Well I made a drastic decision last night and got the AT&T version at Best Buy, they have a $35 14 day return policy. So I thought I can always return it and get an International version.
12 hours into s8+ 955U, I am impressed. It runs much smoother as my s7e 128gb G9350 black pearl .... was worried that like with the s7e I was going to feel more of these little delays that I had on s7e snapdragon but not on Exynos... this is not the case.
Other comments:
- smartlinked transfered, contacts, pictures, sms, etc but only 70% of the apps...
- Like everything except that the finger printer scanner location will take me another few days to unlock efficiently...
Oh and my 9 year told me, "Dad, why did you tell mom that you bought a new phone, it looks exactly the same as before just a little longer, she would never have noticed!"
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You have an account with AT&T or you paid full price?
954wrecker said:
You have an account with AT&T or you paid full price?
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I paid full price, but have an account with AT&T. I switch phones a lot and resell them on ebay.
By the way an ATT store NY wanted an extra $25 for a sim card that I did not need and then they said "sorry Sir you can not buy it for $850 we only sell no contract phones after one month"
THat is why I went to Best Buy... Ordered on the app, got an email 35 minutes, and picked up the phone....effortless..... went home switch the sim card for s7e to s8+, few setup clicks, smartlink and just had to reinstall two dozen apps that did not make it over
FrenchJo67 said:
I paid full price, but have an account with AT&T. I switch phones a lot and resell them on ebay.
By the way an ATT store NY wanted an extra $25 for a sim card that I did not need and then they said "sorry Sir you can not buy it for $850 we only sell no contract phones after one month"
THat is why I went to Best Buy... Ordered on the app, got an email 35 minutes, and picked up the phone....effortless..... went home switch the sim card for s7e to s8+, few setup clicks, smartlink and just had to reinstall two dozen apps that did not make it over
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Yea I figured thats why I asked. Appreciate the info and honesty. I hate the cell phone companies they are so full of s$%t. So now may I ask how easy is it to have AT&T sim unlock it for you? I know they have the web portal for non and current customers, but ive never used it before.
954wrecker said:
Yea I figured thats why I asked. Appreciate the info and honesty. I hate the cell phone companies they are so full of s$%t. So now may I ask how easy is it to have AT&T sim unlock it for you? I know they have the web portal for non and current customers, but ive never used it before.
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I unlocked many iphones on the At&T protal it usually takes 1-3 business days and was smooth.
Switched to Android for the Note 7 (!) and Knox and only bought international versions until last night.
Will unlock this in 60 days, as their is a 60 day delay... it better works as I will travel internationally in 66 days !!
FrenchJo67 said:
I unlocked many iphones on the At&T protal it usually takes 1-3 business days and was smooth.
Switched to Android for the Note 7 (!) and Knox and only bought international versions until last night.
Will unlock this in 60 days, as their is a 60 day delay... it better works as I will travel internationally in 66 days !!
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Actually I just checked the portal and I believe as my account is way older as 60 days, i can unlock the new phone after 14 days (buyers remorse period)
FrenchJo67 said:
Actually I just checked the portal and I believe as my account is way older as 60 days, i can unlock the new phone after 14 days (buyers remorse period)
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Thats good to know I wonder how long they make non customers wait if they make AT&T customers wait that long. Please if you have time update us as to the SIM lock situatuon. Thanks in advance
FrenchJo67 said:
Well I made a drastic decision last night and got the AT&T version at Best Buy, they have a $35 14 day return policy. So I thought I can always return it and get an International version.
12 hours into s8+ 955U, I am impressed. It runs much smoother as my s7e 128gb G9350 black pearl .... was worried that like with the s7e I was going to feel more of these little delays that I had on s7e snapdragon but not on Exynos... this is not the case.
Other comments:
- smartlinked transfered, contacts, pictures, sms, etc but only 70% of the apps...
- Like everything except that the finger printer scanner location will take me another few days to unlock efficiently...
Oh and my 9 year told me, "Dad, why did you tell mom that you bought a new phone, it looks exactly the same as before just a little longer, she would never have noticed!"
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Kids keep getting smarter and smarter as time goes on lol
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
ShrekOpher said:
From experience using the international version on any USA carrier can be risky. If you live in a big city you should get normal service most of the time. You won't be able to get the carrier aggregation that AT&T uses band 30 for though so when the network is congested your service will be noticeably effected.
Also if it is still missing any of the low bands you will have a hard time getting a good signal in rural areas as well. For the most part you will want to make sure you have access to Bands: 2, 4, 12, 17. that will cover the majority of your needs. Bands 29, and 30 really only come in with the carrier aggregation. but without them you will notice slower speeds or no signal at all at big events.
I tried out an international S7e after I had to relinquish my Note 7, for me it was not worth it. Root is becoming less needed now, custom ROMs break TOO much functionality (Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Work Email, Banking Apps, etc) and the things I loved root for, display scaling, ad blocking, Viper4Android, Themes, are becoming less needed, due to compatible things being offered on stock. Just not worth it anymore for slight tweaks and marginal performance increases.
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That's not accurate for the S8 international unlocked variant this year.
According to the FCC listing it supports the following US bands 12, 17, 13, 26, 5, 66, 4, 25, 2, 41 so aside from band 30 it has all the bands needed to work great on AT&T and T-Mobile.
It also has carrier aggregation with US bands with the following combinations:
2+12
4+12
4+17
12+12
66+17
41+41
66+66
and 3 band carrier aggregation at the following bands:
4+12+12
66+12+66
41+41+41
It's interesting that this year the international version includes Verizon and Sprint LTE bands but not CDMA bands (so not sure how will that work on those two networks).
clubtech said:
That's not accurate for the S8 international unlocked variant this year.
According to the FCC listing it supports the following US bands 12, 17, 13, 26, 5, 66, 4, 25, 2, 41 so aside from band 30 it has all the bands needed to work great on AT&T and T-Mobile.
It also has carrier aggregation with US bands with the following combinations:
2+12
4+12
4+17
12+12
66+17
41+41
66+66
and 3 band carrier aggregation at the following bands:
4+12+12
66+12+66
41+41+41
It's interesting that this year the international version includes Verizon and Sprint LTE bands but not CDMA bands (so not sure how will that work on those two networks).
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You keep mentioning this FCC stuff but im not sure why a phone meant for sale and use in countries outside the USA would be contacting our FCC?
954wrecker said:
You keep mentioning this FCC stuff but im not sure why a phone meant for sale and use in countries outside the USA would be contacting our FCC?
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Every phone model that wants to be allowed to enter the US (either if you are a foreigner and would like to come with it to the US or if you are a retailer who would like to import it to the US) must get FCC certified to makes sure it follows US wireless guidelines, does not cause interference with frequencies used in the US and has acceptable SAR levels.
clubtech said:
Every phone model that wants to be allowed to enter the US (either if you are a foreigner and would like to come with it to the US or if you are a retailer who would like to import it to the US) must get FCC certified to makes sure it follows US wireless guidelines, does not cause interference with frequencies used in the US and has acceptable SAR levels.
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Can you send a link that actually works with proof the F and FD international versions ever applied for FCC certification?
954wrecker said:
Can you send a link that actually works with proof the F and FD international versions ever applied for FCC certification?
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https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...id=y9iH3wwF54NP3e+s5fwinQ==&fcc_id=A3LSMG955F
Check "SAR Report 1" for the "proof" on the frequencies I stated earlier in the thread.
clubtech said:
That's not accurate for the S8 international unlocked variant this year.
According to the FCC listing it supports the following US bands 12, 17, 13, 26, 5, 66, 4, 25, 2, 41 so aside from band 30 it has all the bands needed to work great on AT&T and T-Mobile.
It also has carrier aggregation with US bands with the following combinations:
2+12
4+12
4+17
12+12
66+17
41+41
66+66
and 3 band carrier aggregation at the following bands:
4+12+12
66+12+66
41+41+41
It's interesting that this year the international version includes Verizon and Sprint LTE bands but not CDMA bands (so not sure how will that work on those two networks).
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AT&T rolled out both band 29 and 30 for LTE Advanced back at the same time the LG G3 came out.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/wirel...support-700-mhz-spectrum-it-got-from-qualcomm
Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version however I didn't know the US unlocked was a different model because nowhere I looked online mentioned it. I looked at the LTE bands before purchasing it and saw it supports all of Verizons bands (especially the critical band 13) so in theory it should still work right? My fear is when I give them the IMEI to enable CDMA Less on my line they will notice its an EU model that's "not approved on their network" and thus that will prevent it from working even though it supports all their bands.
Now to answer some questions:
Why did I buy this from Amazon instead of OnePlus?
Because it was $100 cheaper and the only way to get the Onyx Black color
Why didn't I buy the Verizon version?
Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
3mutts said:
Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version
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Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
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Hi,
I don't think they won't approve your device. I'm living in France so I don't know much about the Verizon Politics about that. But if they have common sense, they won't refuse just because it's not one of their devices, they may lose a lot of customers if they did so. There's a Verizon model to support their 5G, but for LTE it's all good.
In France, no carrier would dare doing that, because everybody buys their phones on internet, already unlocked and stuff...
There's a huge competition between carrier so they won't dare to be so restrictive on who can use their network or not. It'd be like "if you want to give me money, you have to pay me at least 600$+60$/month, who do you think I am, I'm not accepting just 60$ every single month", that makes no sense, only Karens thinks like that.
So LTE is cool, but I can't say that for the Verizon 5G
Hope this helped
I already knew 5g wasnt going to work but I don't care because Verizon uses mmwave 5g and that's not coming to my area any time soon. I just want to make 100% sure LTE works, right now I'm 90% sure but that IMEI thing has me worried, Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (absolute BS imo, if it supports all your bands it should just work). I don't know if they support only the American OnePlus 8 (IN2015) if so that would suck because hardware wise the IN2015 and IN2013 are virtually identical from what I could find with only a few bands missing from the IN2013 but they don't matter for Verizon