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Rain Question

So I have a question about using my tablet while it is raining. First of all, I know its not the greatest idea in the world, and I know it COULD damage it. But here is my question.
How hard would it have to be raining, before it would be a cause of concern? Rain can come at anytime, and sometimes you can not avoid it... Surely designers have kept this in mind, and have done their best... But as I said before, how hard would it have to be raining, before worrying that it will damage the tablet? Thanks in advance for answers...
If you need more detail, I will be happy to supply it. But I would please like to get a general idea... Also, does the Note 10.1 have a water damage sticker, or indicator anywhere on the exterior of the device? Or is it on the battery like most other things in the world?

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Rapth said:
So I have a question about using my tablet while it is raining. First of all, I know it's not the greatest idea in the world, and I know it COULD damage it. But here is my question.
How hard would it has to be raining, before it would be a cause of concern? Rain can come at anytime, and sometimes you can not avoid it... Surely designers have kept this in mind, and have done their best... But as I said before, how hard would it have to be raining, before worrying that it will damage the tablet? Thanks in advance for answers...
If you need more detail, I will be happy to supply it. But I would please like to get a general idea... Also, does the Note 10.1 have a water damage sticker, or indicator anywhere on the exterior of the device? Or is it on the battery like most other things in the world?
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The note 10.1 is built pretty tight from the front, so where i would be worried are the open areas like the headphone jack, speakers, charging port, etc. Also, if you have a cover or case that might prevent some water form going through. Any electronic should not get it's components wet, so the best advice i can give is avoid water as much as possible.

ebahena said:
The note 10.1 is built pretty tight from the front, so where i would be worried are the open areas like the headphone jack, speakers, charging port, etc. Also, if you have a cover or case that might prevent some water form going through. Any electronic should not get it's components wet, so the best advice i can give is avoid water as much as possible.
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I am not so worried about the charging port, as its on the bottom of the device, and is covered by hands, and I watch the area for rain running down. As for the headphone jack, I never use it, not that big of a deal. I can't really protect the speakers... The amount of rain I am talking is like, light, to moderate. Not down pouring, and not drenching the device in water. As I said before, I understand that its something I should probably not do, as there is a chance of danger. I am simply asking how much rain would be required to cause damage? Its a portable device, and its going to be used, rain, shine, or snow, as long as its not hailing outside, or a blizzard. Basically weather I would be willing to stand in, would be weather the device would be exposed to.
I am simply wondering the probability of damage being caused in light to moderate rain fall. It's hard to explain. Where I live, the weather changes randomly, it will rain for ten minutes, than stop. Than a few hours later, will begin raining again. I play a game that requires me to be outside, if its lightly, or moderately raining, I don't want to have to stop, than go back out, if I do not have to.
I appreciate your answer, but I feel I need more detail. The amount of rain it has been exposed to, is no more than splashes, and it is not raining hard enough for water to be running all over my device.

Condensation could trigger the water damage indicators and void warranty .
But that is the same for many devices .
Note is not waterproof and user guide probably says don't use in wet condition's .
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I'm worried about meteor strikes, I know it's not likely but it can happen.....:silly:
But really, if it looks like rain then why chance it if you're worried. All it takes is a quick look at the sky to see if there might be a downpour...
I generally carry my note in a backpack, it has a case and the chances of it getting soaked are negligable...

Success repairing water damaged S3

I thought I would make a quick post to provide some encouragement for those who may water damaged phones. Took mine swimming the other day. Phone fell out of my pocket and drifted down to the deepest end of the pool 8+'. Fortunately I discovered the phone before I got out of the pool.
I ran down to the hardware store and bought a bag of powder dehydration powder used for drawing humidity out of the air. I combined this powder with a bag of white rice in an airtight container (may seem like overkill but this worked much better then the typical prescribed method).
Any how, I removed the battery, took the screws out of the inner housing assembly popped the assembly without completely disassembling. I then wrapped the phone in a couple of coffee filters to prevent any of the powder from entering the phone.
I put the filter wrapped phone in the powder over night, sealed the container and left overnight. When I awoke I had a completely dry phone.
When I attempted to reboot the phone, the phone booted, but the touch screen didn't work.
After watching a video on Youtube (disassembly guide) I completely disassembled the phone. Working with 99% Iso alcohol and some small brushes, I completely cleaned the interior of the phone assembly including the main board, all connectors (paying very close attention to the pin assemblies). I found quite a bit of white corrosion inside the pin assemblies for the connectors and on much of the components. I assume this was residual chlorine from the pool water. After thoroughly cleaning all components, board etc. I carefully reassembled the phone per the instructions in the video.
Once the phone was buttoned up and recharged, I rebooted the phone. The phone booted right up. Everything worked perfectly, with the exception of the camera (wouldn't focus right). I disassembled the in housing again and took the camera out again. After inspecting, I realized I hadn't cleaned the interior of the plastic cover that protects the camera. After booting again, camera worked perfectly.
I would highly encourage anyone who mistakenly immerses their phone in water to at minimum use the powder and rice mixture w/partial disassembly. This worked exceptionally well compared to simply removing the battery and placing in rice.
If your patient and willing to follow directions, I found the thorough disassembly and cleaning process to be quite informative and rewarding, and I got a working phone out of the deal.
Don't recommend getting your phone wet, but if you do, take the initiative and try this yourself. Feel free to msg me if you have any questions

Good to hear that home solutions is still a viable way to fix electronic problems.

How long was it in the water for? I would have figured there was no way that phone would come back to life. Good to know.

Makes no difference if it was 10 seconds or 10 minutes. It doesn't get "wetter" being in longer.
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mine got wet 9 months ago and the op's steps that they took were similar to what I did and I can confirm that you can save your phone. My phone even got plugged in to the charger before i realized it was wet. Thanks op for posting this to help others out.

Hall, that cant be entirely true. Granted, either way is bad, but you can have more corrosion build up if it sat longer. Will 10 minutes do that much corrosion? still doubtful, but still can effect the phone differently. Also, depending on the case, it could take a little longer to access deeper in to the phone.
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BurningDog said:
How long was it in the water for? I would have figured there was no way that phone would come back to life. Good to know.
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Sorry for the late reply. Phone was about 9' deep for about 10 minutes. It was completely water logged. Funny thing was screen was still operational when I pulled from the water. I immediately pulled battery to prevent shorting.
I tend to think the amount of corrosion is relevant to the depth of water invasion and the amount of chemical or other component in the water. Mine was full of white corrosion. Under a magnifying glass I could see it everywhere. Any place i found it, I scrubbed with a fine brush and alcohol, specifically around the pins in the connectors. Be careful not to bend any though.
As far as components, they seem to be very well sealed. Nothing got into the camera, gyro etc. Speaker and phone jack both needed quite a bit of work, but eventually came clean.
Wouldn't suggest opening a phone for no reason, but it is actually quite interesting to see how small and well designed the components are, as well as to see how and where they are installed, gives one a much better understanding of how these things work.
Should I ever drop a phone in water again, I will certainly feel much more confident about my ability to revive it. Not good for the phone but certainly not a death certificate either. With a thorough cleaning your phone should work just fine again.

Edit: so I read the OP. Excellent job, with the exception of the rice. Leave it out next time. It's time to end the rice myth!
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For the love of God people, stop putting your wet phones in rice. I work at a repair shop and have worked on more water damaged phones than I can remember. Also, I come from a fobby Asian family and have carried(20+ lb bags)/washed/steamed/eaten a lot of rice.
First, rice doesn't just absorb moisture. If it's submerged in it, it will. It doesn't just pull it out of the air.
Second, when you put something wet in a container, or anywhere without good airflow it takes significantly longer for the water to evaporate. Take some wet clothes and put them in a bag. Even an open bag. See how long it takes compared to something like line drying.
Half the time someone leaves their phone in a rice filled container, the phone still has water in it 3-7 days later. The other half the water is gone, but it has accelerated damage from corrosion/rust.
Best thing to do with a water damaged android phone: take out the battery. Put it anywhere with a comfortable ambient temp and airflow, leaving the battery cover off. Leave it as long as you feel comfortable. Install new battery and back up your stuff.
At this point, you may need to clean everything with rubbing alcohol. If you don't feel comfortable doing that yourself, bring it to someone.
Sorry to rant but I'm just so sick of opening up wet phones and having people tell me "but I read it on the internet!"
Spread the word.

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Sorry to rant but I'm just so sick of opening up wet phones and having people tell me "but I read it on the internet!"
Spread the word.
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Everything on the internet is true though. Which is why I will now let everyone know. You all owe me money. Depending on your yearly net income.
20k and below. $10
50 - 70k $20
70 - 90k $50
90k and up $100.
You may pay me via PayPal.
This is on the internet. This is true. Good day!
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S7 The back glass is poorly adhered and is lifting on one side. Do i have a fix?

Hey everyone.
I purchased my phone through duty free, unlocked so after checking with local Samsung repair center they told me my warranty is not applicable in the country i live in, because i purchased the phone in duty free. This is not an official Samsung repair center, just a random one authorized by Samsung btw.
Either way, the issue is that the back glass is slightly lifting on one side/ corner. The top right corner (Next to the heart rate sensor) is slightly unstuck from the body, and it creates a tiny little gap, which ends up running down the side of the phone a little.
I have tried finding a solution and no luck. What i want to know is, if i take a heat gun, and give the back glass a blast under the heat gun in order to warm up the glue, and then apply some pressure evenly across the back glass, will that do the trick? Is it even safe to do so ?
Thanks for the help and if necessary i can try submit some pictures.

It should be safe to do as long as you don't heat it up too much as to cause the internals of the phone to get over-stressed. I would power down your phone and make sure it is cooled before starting the process. You don't want it turned on and then your phone decide that it wants to update 20 apps and cause it to heat up any more than it already is.
Also, be gentle with applying pressure to the glass, if you happened to have dropped it and warped the frame that would explain why the glass is lifting up, and if you press too hard it may break it. Just be careful and you should be fine. It's not a guaranteed fix but it's a safe method to try out.
If you need help on using the heat gun just look online for videos of repairing phone screens, plenty of them use heat guns to get the adhesive loosened up and almost always state what temperature to set it to. I feel like it was around 700°F (370°C) last I looked, but don't quote me on that.

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It should be safe to do as long as you don't heat it up too much as to cause the internals of the phone to get over-stressed. I would power down your phone and make sure it is cooled before starting the process. You don't want it turned on and then your phone decide that it wants to update 20 apps and cause it to heat up any more than it already is.
Also, be gentle with applying pressure to the glass, if you happened to have dropped it and warped the frame that would explain why the glass is lifting up, and if you press too hard it may break it. Just be careful and you should be fine. It's not a guaranteed fix but it's a safe method to try out.
If you need help on using the heat gun just look online for videos of repairing phone screens, plenty of them use heat guns to get the adhesive loosened up and almost always state what temperature to set it to. I feel like it was around 700°F (370°C) last I looked, but don't quote me on that.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. I will try give it a shot over the weekend. The phone is in perfect conditions and has never been dropped. In fact when i press down on the glass, it kinda slots back into place, but then sticks back out, so i'm assuming its un-even adhesive or whatever the case is with it. In reality its such an un-noticeable issue, but you know how it is... once you know its there, that's the only thing you notice
I wonder if anyone else had this issue because i found a YouTuber who actually also had his back glass un-stick from the body

Sorry to hear about your luck. I would think it goes without saying, but it will probably no longer be waterproof.

rasimpson318 said:
Sorry to hear about your luck. I would think it goes without saying, but it will probably no longer be waterproof.
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Yeah, i already came to that realization. Thanks anyway !

Did you get it to work?
I am having the same issue as you had and I wondered if you came up with a solution???

Gme12528 said:
I am having the same issue as you had and I wondered if you came up with a solution???
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From my experience doing so does not work. You need to replace the adhesive which is easy to do, what is more difficult is sourcing an OEM one

Anyone get their Pixel 2 wet often ?

Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.

Just be careful you don't make the water too warm, and absolutely don't use soap. This sort of waterproofing takes advantage of surface tension, and either of those two things can defeat it and let water seep in.

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Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.
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I only have one thing to say. You're either braver or crazier than i am. I haven't yet figured out which one it is though.

Just when I turn it on ? But seriously, I feel like I can help you out here. Since I'm an auto detailer for a living I can tell you that water does not clean oil at all. And it's highly unadvisable to get your pixel that wet on purpose. I recommend a high quality microfiber towel and a spritz or two of rinceless wash on the towel. I use Carpro EcH2O but any rinceless wash will do. Nice thing about Carpro EcH2O is that there is ceramic coating properties within it so you're adding a bit of ceramic protection to the screen and enclosure of the phone. This not only adds a protective barrier but also keeps it cleaner and easier to clean in the even it does get dirty. That product must be diluted and will last you a lifetime and you can use it on your car as well. But in a pinch I would use Isopropanol Alcohol on a microfiber and that will do just as good of a job cleaning it up without getting the phone wet. Hope this helps you.

I saw a YouTube video of a guy who took his pixel 2 into the pool and even though it survived, the speaker output was drastically reduced, even after it dried. I wouldn't intentionally submerge any device. The water proofing is for emergency only.

I wash my Pixel 2 phone occasionally. I had an S7 Edge that I washed all the time and used for underwater photography. I've only submerged my Pixel 2 for photos once or twice, and so far so good.
One warning though, your USB cable isn't waterproof. I toasted a couple USB cords with a wet USB port before I realized what was going on. Consider covering up the USB port when you're getting your phone wet, and make sure it's dry before you charge it.
Almost every time both phones got submerged, the speaker was weird for a few hours. Once it dried out it was fine.
But you know, YMMV.
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Oh also, remember that fast moving water can push it's way into the waterproofing a lot faster than water pressure alone. I always try to avoid water coming straight out of the faucet into a hole or seam.

Question phone durability

Hello colleagues on YouTube, you can watch videos that this phone bends easily and your copies have a similar tendency to bend?

Some idiot (or their sponsor) spends the $1000 making those videos so you don't see how far the device will bend on your own. That is, honestly, a stupid thing to do with any device you actually intend to use if you aren't paid per click to record it.

The thing is: usually you don't need to bend your phones. Even hardcore gamers won't ever put so much pressure on their phones unless they have aggression issues.
While some of his tests are are pretty useful to know (if you want to throw your 1000€ phone unprotected in a bag together with keys, knives and guns) the bend test is pretty useless for 99%.
I mean: be honest were you ever in a situation that required you to bend your phone?

Anubarak16 said:
The thing is: usually you don't need to bend your phones. Even hardcore gamers won't ever put so much pressure on their phones unless they have aggression issues.
While some of his tests are are pretty useful to know (if you want to throw your 1000€ phone unprotected in a bag together with keys, knives and guns) the bend test is pretty useless for 99%.
I mean: be honest were you ever in a situation that required you to bend your phone?
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The body is made of Gorilla Glass 3. Realistically, this is the last phone they need to run scratch tests on because it was included on nearly every phone from 2013. That is roughly 7 years of testing already available.
TL;DR buy a $10 case.

That's right, no one normal will play bending the phone But what if I have a phone in the back pocket of my pants and I will sit on it, it will happen or not a few times I have sat on my s20 ultra it only cracks the protective glass but the phone did not bend or crash

Seems like the obvious advice is to avoid sitting on your phone. Bend test videos aren't going to account for all the variables involved in neglect and every story is going to be a bit different.