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[Q] At Night Time - Under Low Light - The Photo Quality of S6

This guy is my brother Is there a problem at these photos? I didn't like the performance of the camera.
click for original size: http://i.hizliresim.com/5dO6gj.jpg

Please do not troll

You should ask in camera thread. You have to check out whether you got Sony sensor or Samsung sensor, Sony one got better details at low light but Samsung may offer better color. Some roms got better camera focus while some builds got worse focus during low light, so it also depends on which rom you are running.

Nowt wrong with those photo's. You won't notice a difference which sensor either except the Samsung sensor will have better detail in shadows, better colour reproduction as well.

bloodrain954 said:
Please do not troll
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How did you come up with this idea? Trolling?

TheEndHK said:
You should ask in camera thread. You have to check out whether you got Sony sensor or Samsung sensor, Sony one got better details at low light but Samsung may offer better color. Some roms got better camera focus while some builds got worse focus during low light, so it also depends on which rom you are running.
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Stock rom.

Jonathan-H said:
Nowt wrong with those photo's. You won't notice a difference which sensor either except the Samsung sensor will have better detail in shadows, better colour reproduction as well.
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SM-G920FQ I don't which sensor it includes?

candask said:
Stock rom.
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Some "stock" roms got better camera focus while some other "stock" builds got worse focus, in my experiences.

Jonathan-H said:
Nowt wrong with those photo's. You won't notice a difference which sensor either except the Samsung sensor will have better detail in shadows, better colour reproduction as well.
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You mean nothing is wrong with those photos?

photos look fine...
if you don't like the white balance on the first one, it's correctable with post processing...

At least tell us what you don't like or what you think is wrong... But they look fine to me. Also hard to say when not knowing the exact lighting conditions.

dagrim1 said:
At least tell us what you don't like or what you think is wrong... But they look fine to me. Also hard to say when not knowing the exact lighting conditions.
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I don't know the exact word.
There is a 'sandy' area at the first photo for example. The headboard of the bed?
By the way, thank you for all the replies! Thank you for your help!
If you're saying 'nothing's wrong' then may be you are right because you are the experts

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EDIT! Install OnePlus5 camera apk!

EDIT! EDIT!
Just install OnePLus5 camera apk form this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72849853&postcount=40
No more sharpen edges
After several tests i figureout that HTC apk.... don't take any better photo =) In my samples on HTC cam apk HDR was turned on... and on the stock one OFF.
SO... If you want less sharpened pictures in AUTO mode just turn on HDR. on your stock s7 cam-app =)
Hello to all!
I love S7 and his camera... but... over-sharpening is big prob. for auto mode.
I found in this thread HTC camera that has less sharpening than stock one.
App is rudimental no fancy working options but for point & shot is working like boss!
APK link
And here are examples.. check the edges of the buildings.
I would like to see your tests... my camera is ISOCELL.

Which photo is from which camera app?

*Detection* said:
Which photo is from which camera app?
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left S7 - right HTC

I see the pink dots are still there on the HTC app, you had HDR enabled?

*Detection* said:
I see the pink dots are still there on the HTC app, you had HDR enabled?
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yes...
pictures are taken thru window... so i will test it more outside...

nomaj said:
yes...
pictures are taken thru window... so i will test it more outside...
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You could try shooting in pro mode. I found this post on reddit with settings/profiles to make it less sharp looking so maybe you will like this as much as i do. (click)

RiTCHiE007 said:
You could try shooting in pro mode. I found this post on reddit with settings/profiles to make it less sharp looking so maybe you will like this as much as i do. (click)
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I will try thank you...

nomaj said:
I will try thank you...
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no problem and people had shots like with those settings

RiTCHiE007 said:
no problem and people had shots like with those settings
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Nice!

I tested for couple of days... and i can say that shared HTC camera gives better results even in stock PRO mode. (in term of sharpening edges etc)
For all users that find AUTO shots over-sharpened - just try this cam

Update 1st post...

dont experience this issue at all with the S7 flat sony sensor

Uhh, the HTC cam just took a darker photo so the halo around building edges was less obvious. Look at the other details. Sharpening is the same. Shoot Pro mode + RAW if you don't want any post-processing.

Turning on HDR is no solution for the over sharpening. It's a totally different kind of thing.
HDR can help in some situations (mostly those with dark and light in one frame), but on many situations I recommend not using HDR , especially indoors.

Also when you turn on HDR lots of people have this pinkspot problem so on the samsung sensor so HDR isn't that good.

mrmattolsen said:
Uhh, the HTC cam just took a darker photo so the halo around building edges was less obvious. Look at the other details. Sharpening is the same. Shoot Pro mode + RAW if you don't want any post-processing.
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In PRo mode you still have sharpening on edges but less... RAW is oK.

can someone test if the galaxy s7 still have over-sharpening problem after installing nougat?

Duyzoro said:
can someone test if the galaxy s7 still have over-sharpening problem after installing nougat?
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same.. =(

is there another app for video , With less sharpened video ?

Yes, luckily there is - called "Cinema 4K". Unfortunately, it doesn't support 3840x2160 for "4K" in conjunction with the S7 but the rather obscure resolution of 3264x2448 instead.
Biggest advance is the possibility to completely turn off any sharpening or noise reduction so one gets a way more "filmic" result.

A Couple Of Questions Regarding The Purchase Of A New Mate.

Good evening folks.
My Note 4 perished by cat and I've settled on a Mate 9 as my replacement phone. I have a couple of questions to those who own it before purchase though.
1.) How easy does the camera glass scratch? That was quite the issue for my Note 4. Will I require a full case to avoid image quality degradation by scratches?
2.) Are the new phone cases (not refurbished) sealed in any fashion from the factory. There are no official outlets here and I'm worried about buying a refurbished dud.
3.) Does the white version really feel like it's made out of Ceramic?
4.) I'd love to see some .dng low light / night and landscape sample images I could do some Photoshop magic on. I'm a photographer at heart and can't quite find anything but .jpegs out there.
Your help would be much appreciated! ^v^
Swan

Swan Princess said:
1.) How easy does the camera glass scratch? That was quite the issue for my Note 4. Will I require a full case to avoid image quality degradation by scratches?
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Google JerryRigEverything on youtube for his mate 9 video he does a durability video on this.

Here a low light raw pic https://www.mediafire.com/download/soa45631qw42i13

gm007 said:
Here a low light raw pic
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Thank you very much for your reply! It seems that the raw files can't be opened in my favorite DXO Optics Played around with some Photosop. It seems quite formidable to preserve details, but I see some noise in the recovered shadows / flat dark areas. The white balance errs a bit on the cool side of things. And you have a very comfy looking sofa, that made me feel sleepy :>I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My main interests are weather photography, as well as landscapes. I am sure I can make it work for my purposes.
Does a lens correction profile exist for this camera at all?

Swan Princess said:
Thank you very much for your reply! It seems that the raw files can't be opened in my favorite DXO Optics Played around with some Photosop. It seems quite formidable to preserve details, but I see some noise in the recovered shadows / flat dark areas. The white balance errs a bit on the cool side of things. And you have a very comfy looking sofa, that made me feel sleepy :>I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My main interests are weather photography, as well as landscapes. I am sure I can make it work for my purposes.
Does a lens correction profile exist for this camera at all?
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What do you mean by lens correction profile?
Do you need a preset correcting vignette and distortion?or you mean raw editor in Photoshop is limited?

gm007 said:
What do you mean by lens correction profile?
Do you need a preset correcting vignette and distortion?or you mean raw editor in Photoshop is limited?
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I do mean correction of lens geometry and I guess vignetting as well yes. Does such a thing even exist for this model? In all other aspects it seems to be mostly like a professional camera. I also mean that Photoshop does not have the correction information for the shot, like say Nexus 6P has (at least judging by the list of supported cameras in PS).

Swan Princess said:
I do mean correction of lens geometry and I guess vignetting as well yes. Does such a thing even exist for this model? In all other aspects it seems to be mostly like a professional camera. I also mean that Photoshop does not have the correction information for the shot, like say Nexus 6P has (at least judging by the list of supported cameras in PS).
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In Photoshop there is lens correction in filters menu.
Yes exif data is not available,maybe need an updated camera raw software.
In my opinion the camera is very good and using the manual mode you can easily take great photos.

gm007 said:
In Photoshop there is lens correction in filters menu.
Yes exif data is not available,maybe need an updated camera raw software.
In my opinion the camera is very good and using the manual mode you can easily take great photos.
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I also noticed that the JPEG processing algorithm does wonders to reduce the noise! Alas I'm very obsessed over shooting everything in .dng / RAW!
There is lens correction, but I can't find support for this phone / lens combination. Without such a profile the correction is useless. EXIF data is all there, as far as I can see with IrfanView and it all looks legit. Phone model, exposure time, F-Stop, etc. Why would you say EXIF isn't available? Can't you see it?

I couldn't see it in Photoshop but with acdsee pro it's there.
I was comparing the raw files from my p9 and it seems they are better than mate 9.
Not sure why but i will do more test tomorrow.

gm007 said:
I couldn't see it in Photoshop but with acdsee pro it's there.
I was comparing the raw files from my p9 and it seems they are better than mate 9.
Not sure why but i will do more test tomorrow.
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Could you set up a tripod then inside and take two same low light images on Mate 9 and P9 with the same settings and share with us please? Would be really nice!

Swan Princess said:
Could you set up a tripod then inside and take two same low light images on Mate 9 and P9 with the same settings and share with us please? Would be really nice!
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Sure tomorrow, it's around 1 am here

gm007 said:
Sure tomorrow, it's around 1 am here
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Yeah, soon 0200 in the night and I'ms till awake. All those thoughts swarming in my head. Another thing I'd love to see is dark noise comparison. So ISO 100, 30-second exposures with the lenses closed with both P9 and Mate 9. That's quite an important figure in photography. What do the sensors show, when there's nothing to show.

Swan Princess said:
Yeah, soon 0200 in the night and I'ms till awake. All those thoughts swarming in my head. Another thing I'd love to see is dark noise comparison. So ISO 100, 30-second exposures with the lenses closed with both P9 and Mate 9. That's quite an important figure in photography. What do the sensors show, when there's nothing to show.
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Yes i see more blue noise in mate 9 than p9 in dark or closed lens.

gm007 said:
Yes i see more blue noise in mate 9 than p9 in dark or closed lens.
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Well, that is interesting. I thought that the camera sensors should be identical in them both? Could anyone else confirm that the image quality is worse on the Mate, then it is on the P9?

Swan Princess said:
Well, that is interesting. I thought that the camera sensors should be identical in them both? Could anyone else confirm that the image quality is worse on the Mate, then it is on the P9?
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P9 has 2 12MP sensors,mate 9 has 1 12MP and 1 20MP,there is no info which sensors they use.
I will do the test when i get home.

gm007 said:
P9 has 2 12MP sensors,mate 9 has 1 12MP and 1 20MP,there is no info which sensors they use.
I will do the test when i get home.
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Try doing the test with 1.1x zoom as well. I heard the image quality improves quite a bit. Seems that the JPEG is made from both sensors and the .dng from only one?

Swan Princess said:
Try doing the test with 1.1x zoom as well. I heard the image quality improves quite a bit. Seems that the JPEG is made from both sensors and the .dng from only one?
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Didn't have time last night Champions League
But i did quick test at 100 iso 30sec for both mate9 and p9,here the dng files https://www.mediafire.com/download/1w8rosw8jxcnw2r

gm007 said:
Didn't have time last night Champions League
But i did quick test at 100 iso 30sec for both mate9 and p9,here the dng files https://www.mediafire.com/download/1w8rosw8jxcnw2r
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I did a quick enhance on those dark images in Photoshop and it seems indeed that the two phones run completely different imaging hardware. The P9 had a bit of amp glow on the top and bottom of the image, while the Mate 9 had a darker circle in the middle and overall much less noise. Very interesting, also none of those two files had EXIF in them this time. Not sure what to think about it all. Am I just doing silly things?

Another question I have before purchase is would it be possible to tell of a re-branded version, if I aim to get the EU 64GB one? May I get a re-flashed Chinese one instead? Is there a surefire way to tell of a genuine L29 was it?

Swan Princess said:
Another question I have before purchase is would it be possible to tell of a re-branded version, if I aim to get the EU 64GB one? May I get a re-flashed Chinese one instead? Is there a surefire way to tell of a genuine L29 was it?
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Only the imei on box should match imei inside the phone.

Screen uniformity

I checked the Mix 3 oled panel with Oled tools on very low brightness. The reaults are very bad.
Did anyone check it?

I've checked it with my mince pies, and the results are excellent.

invisiblewave said:
I've checked it with my mince pies, and the results are excellent.
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In dark room with low brightness?

Sigray said:
In dark room with low brightness?
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Yes. I use the night display on Gentle Alarm every night. The nighttime darkness of the OLED screen is one of the reasons I waited for this device, along with no bezels, wireless charging and too much RAM. The only strange thing I've noticed is purple pulsing when Radio FM is on and the screen is off, but I think that's a "feature" since I updated to the weekly eu ROM.

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Yes. I use the night display on Gentle Alarm every night. The nighttime darkness of the OLED screen is one of the reasons I waited for this device, along with no bezels, wireless charging and too much RAM. The only strange thing I've noticed is purple pulsing when Radio FM is on and the screen is off, but I think that's a "feature" since I updated to the weekly eu ROM.
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Thats what I talking about.

I think it's your model that is defect. Mine is perfect, or i have not the ability to see a default.

Sigray said:
Thats what I talking about.
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Ouch! Mine definitely doesn't do anything like that.

invisiblewave said:
Ouch! Mine definitely doesn't do anything like that.
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Did you tried it on low brightness in Oled Tools? You have to be in a dark room.
Anyway I sold this phone planning to buy a new one ?
I have a Mi 8 too

Sigray said:
Did you tried it on low brightness in Oled Tools? You have to be in a dark room.
Anyway I sold this phone planning to buy a new one
I have a Mi 8 too
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Yes, i do it with oled tool (first option with low light) and it's clearly uniform in all color.

Znuf said:
Yes, i do it with oled tool (first option with low light) and it's clearly uniform in all color.
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Last option what I talking about

Black crushing on OP7 Pro?

I have been searching for it around and haven't found any workaround. The black colour/darker colours look pixelated. It's never captured in screenshot/screen recorder so can't really post a screenshot here. Is this a software issue or a hardware one? It's usually visible on lower brightness, <40% and only in live wallpapers and videos, Netflix and Youtube. The display with black/darker colours looks really bad. The dark theme colours are fine though. It's just videos and anything that's moving.

noobnoob25 said:
I have been searching for it around and haven't found any workaround. The black colour/darker colours look pixelated. It's never captured in screenshot/screen recorder so can't really post a screenshot here. Is this a software issue or a hardware one? It's usually visible on lower brightness, <40% and only in live wallpapers and videos, Netflix and Youtube. The display with black/darker colours looks really bad. The dark theme colours are fine though. It's just videos and anything that's moving.
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I had the same issue with a China gm1910 model and ended up returning it and buying a global 12gb ram model straight from OnePlus and everything is fine on it. Return it cause the display is most likely faulty.

Aporzio said:
I had the same issue with a China gm1910 model and ended up returning it and buying a global 12gb ram model straight from OnePlus and everything is fine on it. Return it cause the display is most likely faulty.
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Yes I'm going to OP service center. But you know what, it gets fixed with an app called Screen Balance. I mean if it does gets fixed, it's probably not an hardware issue I guess.

Aporzio said:
I had the same issue with a China gm1910 model and ended up returning it and buying a global 12gb ram model straight from OnePlus and everything is fine on it. Return it cause the display is most likely faulty.
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Also, this is how the black color looks when in low light.

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Also, this is how the black color looks when in low light.
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That kinda looks like what it looks like to play HDR content in a non-HDR player

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That kinda looks like what it looks like to play HDR content in a non-HDR player
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Yes. It only happens in low light. And I went to OnePlus service center and they have good lightning inside the store and it wasn't visible. They told me to record a video of the content playing with black crush. And when I do that using my old iphone 6, the black crush doesn't look in the video.
Also, I recently discovered turning off Video Enhancer lessens the Black crush a lot.

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Yes. It only happens in low light. And I went to OnePlus service center and they have good lightning inside the store and it wasn't visible. They told me to record a video of the content playing with black crush. And when I do that using my old iphone 6, the black crush doesn't look in the video.
Also, I recently discovered turning off Video Enhancer lessens the Black crush a lot.
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What video player are you using?

mookiexl said:
What video player are you using?
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Usually VLC for downloaded media. Black crush also happens over Youtube, Netflix and Prime video.

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Also, this is how the black color looks when in low light.
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Yep same exact issue I had and my 2nd one doesn't have that. So I would say it's defective

i have the same problem with GM1913 on open beta 6...sometimes the screen goes green on low light condition....but only on lockscreen and some videos.

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i have the same problem with GM1913 on open beta 6...sometimes the screen goes green on low light condition....but only on lockscreen and some videos.
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How does it look in the daylight? Mine looks perfectly okay in daylight and when the lighting conditions are good in a room. I went to OP service centre and it wasn't visible there. They said to wait for the next update if it doesn't get okay then they will take the device for inspection.

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How does it look in the daylight? Mine looks perfectly okay in daylight and when the lighting conditions are good in a room. I went to OP service centre and it wasn't visible there. They said to wait for the next update if it doesn't get okay then they will take the device for inspection.
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Just a shot in the dark here (ha, get it). Ok, sorry...bad joke. Anyways, do you have DC Dimming on? If so, turn it off and test your issue.

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Just a shot in the dark here (ha, get it). Ok, sorry...bad joke. Anyways, do you have DC Dimming on? If so, turn it off and test your issue.
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DC Dimming has been off since I purchased the device. I don't use it.