Hi,
I am almost certain that I will get myself a MIX 2S, but there is one thing that still holds me off - the screen. Does anyone of you know what is the panel installed there? Previously I had Xiaomi MI Note 3 and the screen there had some problems with ghosting which was really annoying when it was cold outside (near 0 Celsius). I wonder if this is the thing with 2S too. Anyone?
No problem with it at all, check the tests it's one of the bests IPS panel available and it's HDR compatible
According to reviews, display on Mix 2s actually worse than display on Mi note 3. It has lower brightness and contrast and has same ghosting issues due to slow pixels: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12992/the-xiaomi-mi-mix-2s-review/4
I have mi note 3 and going to change it for mix, and I prepared for it
Difourentii said:
According to reviews, display on Mix 2s actually worse than display on Mi note 3. It has lower brightness and contrast and has same ghosting issues due to slow pixels: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12992/the-xiaomi-mi-mix-2s-review/4
I have mi note 3 and going to change it for mix, and I prepared for it
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Bad review, check other tests. Almost everyone will tell you that Mi Mix 2S screen is very good.
Bryandu13 said:
Bad review, check other tests. Almost everyone will tell you that Mi Mix 2S screen is very good.
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Checked: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix_2s-review-1758p3.php
This review makrs same brightness and contrast, below mi note 3 values
About ghosting real users in my country say the same: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=890942&view=findpost&p=74526483 (it's in russian, you can use google translate)
My Mix 2S screen is horrible. Blur and ghosting every time I swipe or scroll. Real shame as I love everything else about this phone.
I have had dozens & dozens of phones (IPS & AMOLED screens) and I have never had this issue.
Only had phone for just over a week, but I won't be keeping it much longer. It hurts my eyes.
Some people won't even notice it, but I'm very susceptible to this sort of thing.
It has an EXTREMY low pixel refresh rate and tends to blur on whites and blues.
phorenzik said:
My Mix 2S screen is horrible. Blur and ghosting every time I swipe or scroll. Real shame as I love everything else about this phone.
I have had dozens & dozens of phones (IPS & AMOLED screens) and I have never had this issue.
Only had phone for just over a week, but I won't be keeping it much longer. It hurts my eyes.
Some people won't even notice it, but I'm very susceptible to this sort of thing.
It has an EXTREMY low pixel refresh rate and tends to blur on whites and blues.
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Send your phone to customer service, I don't have these problems
Bryandu13 said:
Send your phone to customer service, I don't have these problems
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I bought it from eBay and I'm in the UK, so it's a no go for warranty.
It isn't faulty. It's just how they all are. It's the panel Xiaomi have used.
Like I said, some people are more susceptible to it. Some people don't see the blur at all. All eyes are different.
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I bought it from eBay and I'm in the UK, so it's a no go for warranty.
It isn't faulty. It's just how they all are. It's the panel Xiaomi have used.
Like I said, some people are more susceptible to it. Some people don't see the blur at all. All eyes are different.
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I think too that you have faulty panel, as I can see what you can see and my 2S panel is perfect.
phorenzik said:
I bought it from eBay and I'm in the UK, so it's a no go for warranty.
It isn't faulty. It's just how they all are. It's the panel Xiaomi have used.
Like I said, some people are more susceptible to it. Some people don't see the blur at all. All eyes are different.
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This is EVIL BULL****. You are just pissed to have made a bad purchase. There has never ever been any test/review with any word with a problem like you.
I don´t get it. DEFECT is defect and you´ve got a right to get a working example. Didn´t you pay by Paypal?
If not...NOW we know where this is really coming from.
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This is EVIL BULL****. You are just pissed to have made a bad purchase. There has never ever been any test/review with any word with a problem like you.
I don´t get it. DEFECT is defect and you´ve got a right to get a working example. Didn´t you pay by Paypal?
If not...NOW we know where this is really coming from.
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What the ****?
Why are you so angry?
It's me who's wasted £450 on a phone with a worse screen than my last phone.
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This is EVIL BULL****. You are just pissed to have made a bad purchase. There has never ever been any test/review with any word with a problem like you.
I don´t get it. DEFECT is defect and you´ve got a right to get a working example. Didn´t you pay by Paypal?
If not...NOW we know where this is really coming from.
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Lol dude you dont see it but its there
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Lol dude you dont see it but its there
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I said from right from the start that some people will be able to see it, when others won't. It's all subjective.
My eyes are extremely susceptible to things like this.
For example, in games, movies & broadcast TV, I can easily see frame rate judder/frame pace errors & refresh rate innacuracies in source material, when most other people can't.
The vast majority of people don't see this at all, but some of us do, and to us, it's awful.
The phone is in no way defective. The panel is just shoddy and is where Xiaomi have cut corners., Which is a shame. I'd rather have less RAM or a slower chipset than have a crappy screen, as this is the thing you have to look at constantly. I'm selling mine and going back to my old phone.
Why doesnt someone develop a kernel to increase the panel frequency? Change io scheduler? And increase display buffers
Yesterday i trade my mix2s for an Amoled Mi8.... TODAY I took my mix2s back!!! JDI makes best ips in world and is "made in japan"! No prob here...
Almost in all.units there are yellowish/grayish discoloration on the lower n part of the screen, but i guess it's normal in lcd screen?
Was to give my OnePlus 5T to my wife as she needs a new phone, but I guess I will get another phone as the screen on the Mix 2S seems to be dimmer and not uniformly...
I'm always very suspicious of posts on XDA where members directly or indirectly plug OnePlus phones. OnePlus is notorious for fake user posts on tech and social media sites.
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I'm always very suspicious of posts on XDA where members directly or indirectly plug OnePlus phones. OnePlus is notorious for fake user posts on tech and social media sites.
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Strangely enough, I've gone back to my 5t and listed my Mix 2s for sale.
The 5t is far from perfect. The camera is attrotious compared to the Mix 2s but the screen is a million times better.
I genuinely don't care if you're suspicious or not. I tell it like it is.
I owned a One Plus 5 which was an amazingly bad phone. From the poor build quality of the phone itself to the inept coding of Oxygen and the firmware I never owned a phone that I hated more.
So why is it every few days someone feels the need to post how much they prefer their One Plus phones in the Xiaomi threads? It's disrespectful to go into the MI Mix 3 thread and say this phone sucks I'm going back to One Plus.
If yours was the first post I saw like that it wouldn't raise a red flag but I see very similar posts regularly.
One Plus sales and promotion tactics include planting fake user posts and comments on tech and social media sites. I'm not saying that your post is fake but it definitely falls very squarely into the pattern of their fake posts which criticize a competing company and praise One Plus devices as being superior.
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/hghivtnkhejph4r/P1010443.JPG
On top is my Galaxy Note II, and on the bottom is my Galaxy Note 3. Not sure if it's all devices or its just on some including mine. It is adjusted by firmware as other galaxy models have demonstrated in the past, so I think it will probably be adjusted in a firmware update in the future, but I just thought I would share. I had my device on at full brightness with auto adjust screen tones off. Then I took a 15 second exposure on my DSLR to confirm that at least "2", and "1" are indeed crushed, and the pixels representing the block for those numbers emit no light at all.
The mess around the numbers are probably jpeg artifacts.
I got the file from an old Galaxy Note (1) thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559800
Here's a copy of the file. It may look mostly black, but it's not. You would need to look at it in a dark room to see it on maximum brightness.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fale5naqlpbwei/gammatest-xda.png
I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I know, right?!
I also don't understand how some guys who see a "pointless" thread have the need to take actual time from their supposedly busy lives to bash the threads instead of simply moving on with their lives, understanding that they aren't the standard-setters for what is or isn't important to other people.
Not this again, I remember people bleeting about this in the S2 days, if it does have a small issue, who cares, it's not like your TV where you watch media on it all the while you're at home. Think I can cope with the small issue with occasional film I may watch on it.
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Before everyone freaks out, here's some background. The issue OP's discussing has been around since the first AMOLED display. It's varied in severity on different models of Samsung phones.
Here's a SGS3 vs. N2 comparison done by SuperCurio...
Here's the video with SuperCurio explaining the issue...
Here's OP's N2 vs. N3 comparison...
Compared to other Samsung devices the issue on the N3 is relatively minor. It can also vary from display to display and updates have impacted it before. As OP said, the issue's pretty minor on the N3; at least to compared to some of Samsung's other phones. OP, is the device you're using pre-release or production (retail)?
It is what it is. From what's been shown I'm not concerned. Let's see some more sample's from production phones from different regions before we all freak out.
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I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I totally agree with you !
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I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
Thanks for letting us know, Mike. Hope to see more youtube videos from you about the note3.
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Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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Even when you buy a 5000$ laptop, screen bleeding and dead pixels will be there and they are accepted as being an industry standard. The real issue is it doesnt affect in any way how you use or enjoy the device, so why complain. All devices i had, had an XDA thread with hundreds of people that compalined about greens that are too green, or "blobs" for those that had an S3....its ridiculous. Thats how screens are made, they arent perfect
This post brings me back those very unpleasent memories of black clipping which suffered my first Samsung Galaxy Note.(quivering)
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Even when you buy a 5000$ laptop, screen bleeding and dead pixels will be there and they are accepted as being an industry standard. The real issue is it doesnt affect in any way how you use or enjoy the device, so why complain. All devices i had, had an XDA thread with hundreds of people that compalined about greens that are too green, or "blobs" for those that had an S3....its ridiculous. Thats how screens are made, they arent perfect
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accepted by you maybe... I'd make them eat the laptop if they didn't give me what was advertised.
and in daily use when are you going to notice this? i had a note 2 for 6 months and didnt have an issue. you guys get too worried and worked up about such little stuff
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Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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I agree. It's more so awareness rather than complaining about it. To be blindsided with issues post purchase would be worse than knowing walking into it
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accepted by you maybe... I'd make them eat the laptop if they didn't give me what was advertised.
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Its not accepted by me, its an industry standard. Do you know what that means? ISO certification of screen allow 3-5 dead pixels and screen bleeding
Dan37tz said:
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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It's not the "what," it's the "how." I'm tired of scintillating thread titles declaring the end of the world as we know it backed up by little evidence or circumstantial opinion as their basis. Your "the N3 lags like the SGS4" thread comes to mind. You started it based on something you saw in an Italian review that turned out to be the opposite of what you posted once it was translated by an Italian XDA member.
I do agree with you though. I want to know what the issues (and there are bound to be issues) with the N3 are. But I'd like some context (when, where, how many, and how often) to go along with them so I can figure out what they'll mean to me. Spoiler alert: if I have to lock myself in a dark room and adjust settings to levels I'd never normally use to replicate a problem then, for me, it's not a problem. Of course YMMV.
This thread's a good example of how to introduce an issue. OP titled the thread "minor" rather than using "OMG!!!" and "THIS IS AWFUL!!!" and posted documentation to support what he found. That leaves it up to the audience to form their own opinions. And whether it's what OP posted or other issues that have been discussed the friggin' phone isn't even in people's hands yet. So disaster could be on the horizon in a number of areas but it's a bit too early to declare "the sky is falling."
Peace out.
Adapt display
I saw an "adapt display" option in this Note 3 video: http://youtu.be/S2Yr7PvgKQw?t=8m52s
Do you think calibrating the screen with it would solve the problem?
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I saw an "adapt display" option in this Note 3 video: http://youtu.be/S2Yr7PvgKQw?t=8m52s
Do you think calibrating the screen with it would solve the problem?
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adapt display has nothing to do with calibration, just like in the S4, it just changes color saturation
I can't believe u ****s are still buying Samsung phone since u know they have black crush issue.if amoled bothers u so much,why buy Samsung phone.u can go buy HTC of lg.every device have some issues even ur beloved I phones.stop with these stupid threads.if you have to find faults with microscopes then tell everyone to check their phones.only reason I'm posting because of some people want perfect phone keep calling for warranty replacement and when I have real issue with my phone then att gives me hard time replacing it.
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I can't believe u ****s are still buying Samsung phone since u know they have black crush issue.if amoled bothers u so much,why buy Samsung phone.u can go buy HTC of lg.every device have some issues even ur beloved I phones.stop with these stupid threads.if you have to find faults with microscopes then tell everyone to check their phones.only reason I'm posting because of some people want perfect phone keep calling for warranty replacement and when I have real issue with my phone then at gives me hard time replacing it.
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would you mind me quoting/linking your post to my signature?
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Its not accepted by me, its an industry standard. Do you know what that means? ISO certification of screen allow 3-5 dead pixels and screen bleeding
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Thank god industry standard just means how much they can get away with before enough people feed their laptops back to them. Never take crap laying down. Always complain if you feel like something's not right. How else would things change for the better?
Noticing a kind of very lite shade of greys in white screens irrespective of the brightness. No problem with any other colors. Can’t capture it in a snap. So tried my best to represent it in the image(attached). You can download the image and zoom-in and shake the image in the marked area to clearly see what I’m talking about. Anybody else having this issue? Is it huge issue as I will be working with photographs in the phone?
Just bought the device yesterday. Would be nice if someone can tell me how to convey this to the retailer without making him think that I’m crazy for a replacement. :laugh:
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I have found that all modern high density AMOLED screens have this to some extent. I bought 7 Galaxy S6s and none were perfect, with some better than others. 99% of people won't notice it. And even if you're someone who can notice it, sometimes it takes a couple weeks of owning the phone before you see it, and then once you see it, it's hard to unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're scrolling and move your eyes up and down the screen with the content as it moves.
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I have found that all modern high density AMOLED screens have this to some extent. I bought 7 Galaxy S6s and none were perfect, with some better than others. 99% of people won't notice it. And even if you're someone who can notice it, sometimes it takes a couple weeks of owning the phone before you see it, and then once you see it, it's hard to unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're scrolling and move your eyes up and down the screen with the content as it moves.
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I saw it in the first day itself. Expected value for the price paid is not delivered means. It's cheating
Its very common on AMOLED devices unfortunately and my guess is that the vast majority of users cannot see it so lower # of units returned to samsung and they probably will blame it on QA. If a lot of consumers would start to notice it and demand for close to perfect panels then samsung will probably up their AMOLED game.
we bought 3 sgs7 phones all of them have this issue...how can such a company like Samsung do this ...like i cant see that LOL my vission on close distances is verry verry good so thats whay i saw those gray lines in a minute after buying one.i went to see my brothers gs7 after that and of course his one was the same and then after one week my father bought one white version so i thought that the 3rd one has to be a good one but NOPE it was the same story again...im very pissed so i will go to Samsung and tell them about it and will see what will they say...just to let u know guys i had similar problem on xperia z5 but instead of grey lines i had white ones and also some white spots and i send it to waranty and told them about the display issue and they have replaced the screen and now its perfect...so im goin to do that on Samsung aswell. good luck ppl
just to let u know guys i went Samsung and they replaced the screen but those gray lines are visible again so they sad that they cannot fix it and change screen everytime.... it looks like that alot of led panels are baddly constructed in the factory so i decided to return the phone.
I am on my 3rd galaxy S7. The 1st had the SD card connecting and disconnecting. The 2nd one the USB port would no longer transfer data(learned because VR stopped working) I am worried about the build quality of this phone....
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JovHok said:
Noticing a kind of very lite shade of greys in white screens irrespective of the brightness. No problem with any other colors. Can’t capture it in a snap. So tried my best to represent it in the image(attached). You can download the image and zoom-in and shake the image in the marked area to clearly see what I’m talking about. Anybody else having this issue? Is it huge issue as I will be working with photographs in the phone?
Just bought the device yesterday. Would be nice if someone can tell me how to convey this to the retailer without making him think that I’m crazy for a replacement. [emoji23]
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I have exactly this same issue and it's driving me nuts! I cannot return my phone now, but it's very noticeable for me those grey lines when some other people I tried to show it couldn't see it...I hate AMOLED displays, I have never had a phone with an AMOLED display which was perfect, all of them always had some issue at some point. From Motorola, other Samsung, Huawei, all of them had some sort of issue with the display.[emoji35]
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Replaced once, too. Mine was not a perfect line, like gray dust splattered along a line. Especially visible with grayish flat images, there were clear fluctuations on shade of "gray". Second device is almost perfect. If you look with magnifying glass , there were some pinkish littttle dusty dots on white, but it is really hard to see with naked eye. So happy with second now.
This issue is present because AMOLED screens don't use backlight. Every pixel is emitting light, and my guess is that they aren't distributing the same amount of brightness on every area of the screen.
It's noticable, but as some said to a very small amount of people, and it isn't that much of an issue if u ask me. Bigger issue is that amoled screens burn in over time. I could see my keyboard on white background on my S5 after a year and a half of use. Thank god that s7 has themes so I can change keyboard layouts.
Everything comes with a price... LCD's have their flaws, and so do AMOLED's.
Good news, its just a software bug on Android M, just reflash it to Android N and it will be fixed.
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Good news, its just a software bug on Android M, just reflash it to Android N and it will be fixed.
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Not here, I'm running the latest beta on my s7 and the grey lines are still there, it's a problem with the display itself.
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Found a perfect solution
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My experience.
Hi all,
I have an unlocked, rooted, Nougat ROM S7 Edge and I have been experiencing the same issue for 3 months.
The only way for me to fixed it is to flash Superman ROM, then the lines disappear. Any other ROM (Elyos, S8 ports, ...): I have the grey lines. A kernel issue?
Cheers.
P.S.: Flicker free kernel used to work with Superman ROM but if I flash it after any other ROM, my phone gets stuck in boot.
After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Yeah out of all phones I've ever ordered, this one is by far my favorite. Ridiculous battery life, no lag, great screen, no gimmicks (edge sense is actually quite useful - I use it to launch my camera immediately when I'm out and about), excellent camera, doesn't overheat, crystal clear call quality, loud speaker set up... Only thing I don't like is News Republic chewing up my battery and not being able to disable it.
I haven't even rooted it yet. Every other phone I've rooted within a week, oftentimes the day I've received it. I ordered it May 16th from HTC on pre-order and got it on June 9th. No phone has ever been in my possession that long without being modded somehow, even if it was just changing the launcher.
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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I'm very OCD regarding LCD screen and the phone itself. The phone is perfect except for the light bleeding, a stuck pixel and some sound static in earphone. Otherwise the phone is perfect like the camera, sound, battery life and performance.
As I bought the phone from Hong Kong its a pain in the... To return it. So with a 10% discount off that seller gave me I learned to enjoy and love the phone.
My HTC One X, M8x, 10 U11 and the S8+ all suffered from flaws being the S8+ the worst (random restarting and pinkish screen tone) so I'm not a lucky person about phones.
@evak2979 i sent you a message but basically it's about accepting defeat when it comes to small flaws, unfortunately there's not more to it. Although of course, if your phone has serious build issues that no one else has it should go back to HTC.
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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Like I told my new pal on PM, I got the S8+ new for a very good price (539, UK).
If that sinks, I'll bite the bullet and return to HTC. It's funny because I don't mind scuffs, or scratches, or what. I just want a normal okay screen. I remember being happy with Note 4, with S5, With M8, With M9.
Then this new fashion started with every display being the dumbs
And the S8+ arrived with dust under the glass.
I've fought for a long time with my OCD to accept that AMOLEDs will never have consistent whites (though my one plus 3t is perfect, the one phone I've kept over the months). As of late with the S8 it's also been, full red edges, dead pixels, dust specs.
Let's try the U11 again. If it just has light bleed and no dead pixels I'll keep it...
I don't have light bleed.
I use edge to launch my calendar.
Sound through the earphones is shockingly good!
It looks dated in any other color but blue or red.
Those bezels? Ug.
The screen is beautiful and they've coated with oleophilics that feel INCREDIBLE.
The camera is excellent.
It's a very VERY good phone.
I have it on mine, but It's hardly even noticeable... Definitely not a game-changer for me. It's not enough for me to return it for a new one.
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
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Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
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Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Nah mine is dead dead.
I am considering a 4th U11. At this point, I don't even care about the light bleed. But 3/3 with dead pixels, it can't just be bad luck. That's the thing. I mean this is very bad QC. None of the reviewers are mentioning things like this. Or the issues with the S8 screen.
I think at this point someone needs to step up and say : ok guys, these are the GOOD things about the phone. But there is also
S8 (red tints, even after patch. Bad smudges on grey. Dust particles under panel)
U11 (Dead pixels. Light bleed at bottom of the screen).
In the end, the only trustworthy review is XDA forums and its users.
Hello,does anyone have a problem with green tint on Oppo the same as OnePlus 8 pro have. Interesting i had OnePlus 8 pro and have problems with green tint
I have sam problem with my Oppo Find X2 Pro. First didn't believe but after realised that have same problem. I bought another one and much lower but still exists. That can be noticeable on Chrome dark theme on 10-15% level brightness
No I am ok with my CPH2025 UAE model.
No Problem here too CPH2025 EU
Very strange,i am glad that you don't have any issue,my device is EU model from Germany,both of them have same problem. First one have much more issue than this one. Both of them i unpack,new sealed...at day light it's hard to see but you must be in absolute dark environment and open Chrome,dark mode,close all tabs and bring device to 10-15% brightness. And watch carefully display colour. Is it all grey or have some variations to another colour, somewhere lighter somewhere darker?
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Very strange,i am glad that you don't have any issue,my device is EU model from Germany,both of them have same problem. First one have much more issue than this one. Both of them i unpack,new sealed...at day light it's hard to see but you must be in absolute dark environment and open Chrome,dark mode,close all tabs and bring device to 10-15% brightness. And watch carefully display colour. Is it all grey or have some variations to another colour, somewhere lighter somewhere darker?
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Yep, had 2x OP8 Pro and 2x Find X2 pro and all had issues in absolute dark with min brightness
+ dark band from punch hole
It was more prominent on OnePlus
OP8 Pro bought directly from OnePlus
X2 pro bought from German dealers
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Very strange,i am glad that you don't have any issue,my device is EU model from Germany,both of them have same problem. First one have much more issue than this one. Both of them i unpack,new sealed...at day light it's hard to see but you must be in absolute dark environment and open Chrome,dark mode,close all tabs and bring device to 10-15% brightness. And watch carefully display colour. Is it all grey or have some variations to another colour, somewhere lighter somewhere darker?
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I will test after work my Oppo Is from Germany too
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I will test after work my Oppo Is from Germany too
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Ok,but really need dark environment. I can send some screenshots. I know it's hard to see but after some messages the shop ask me to come and check. They didn't believe but when they check they give me new device. I unpack new one actually this and it's much better than previous one but still have some tints...i hope i will not start to hate this device...also maybe you don't see anything because screenshot take photo of what is shown on software but physical light made problem. When i watching on my daughter Samsung photo which i send can't see anything but on mine i can see...
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Ok,but really need dark environment. I can send some screenshots. I know it's hard to see but after some messages the shop ask me to come and check. They didn't believe but when they check they give me new device. I unpack new one actually this and it's much better than previous one but still have some tints...i hope i will not start to hate this device...also maybe you don't see anything because screenshot take photo of what is shown on software but physical light made problem. When i watching on my daughter Samsung photo which i send can't see anything but on mine i can see...
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Okay i let you know when I test at home
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Yep, had 2x OP8 Pro and 2x Find X2 pro and all had issues in absolute dark with min brightness
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It was more prominent on OnePlus
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Same here brother. I had twice OnePlus 8 po first one have bigger problem another one without problem. Now 2x Oppo Find X2 Pro both have problem. Second one very low but...
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Okay i let you know when I test at home
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So i see around the punch hole a bit greenish
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Same here brother. I had twice OnePlus 8 po first one have bigger problem another one without problem. Now 2x Oppo Find X2 Pro both have problem. Second one very low but...
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I just learned to live with it because for me these two were still the best devices on the market at that time
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I just learned to live with it because for me these two were still the best devices on the market at that time
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Agree man. But i am wondering is there any device without that problem i will get it ???. But if all are effected it's ok than.
Everyone that tells you that they don't have an issue are either lying or ignorant. Also you think it's bad now? Turn on DC Dimming (Low-brightness flicker-free eye comfort) and then have a look ?
OP8/Pro and Find X2/Pro have the same Samsung display, even S20 variants and Note20 have the same grey low brightness uniformity issue it just depends how well they hide it. Supposedly the technology for AMOLED screens isn't up to par to keep the quality consistent at 120 Hz refresh rate. Now don't misunderstand me - it isn't right and I don't feel like playing silicon lottery with my 1000€ device and if someone gets proof the issue is here because of cutting costs I'm all for class action lawsuit/forcing them to make a new and better batch but so far it seems like we're part of a screen "beta" test. Still the calibration seems better on the Oppo flagship so get that one if you don't mind the locked bootloader and find a lower priced model.
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Everyone that tells you that they don't have an issue are either lying or ignorant. Also you think it's bad now? Turn on DC Dimming (Low-brightness flicker-free eye comfort) and then have a look ?
OP8/Pro and Find X2/Pro have the same Samsung display, even S20 variants and Note20 have the same grey low brightness uniformity issue it just depends how well they hide it. Supposedly the technology for AMOLED screens isn't up to par to keep the quality consistent at 120 Hz refresh rate. Now don't misunderstand me - it isn't right and I don't feel like playing silicon lottery with my 1000€ device and if someone gets proof the issue is here because of cutting costs I'm all for class action lawsuit/forcing them to make a new and better batch but so far it seems like we're part of a screen "beta" test. Still the calibration seems better on the Oppo flagship so get that one if you don't mind the locked bootloader and find a lower priced model.
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Agree man with all you said. I feel the same. I paid 1000€ and really don't like to see display like that. As you said do something and hide it ??. 3 x Oppo 1 orange two black have dame issue more or less noticeable 1 of two OnePlus have catastrophic issue but second one i think he have almost no issue . I would like to know is there any way to do to made this gone?
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So i see around the punch hole a bit greenish
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Hmm... probably all have some greenish. We probably must live with that
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That's what I'm talking about. It's not big deal but we didn't get devices for free. It's pretty nice price. They should fix that
Have a Note 9 which I'm keeping, just got the Ultra and the display is a disappointment.
Side by side with the 9, colors are not as vibrant, contrast is so-so, sharpness is off. Fine details, icon edges, etc. are fuzzy.
Now, I'm anal about this kinda stuff. If I never saw the 9's screen, I'd never know and think it's fine, and to most, it would be. But this is me you're talkin' to. ?
I don't know whether to return it or pray for a Samsung fix. I'm not a gambling man. I've gone through every display setting and resolution there is, including dev options. I'm pretty experienced.
Maybe it's Nova launcher, but it's just not as nice as the 9's screen. Exact same home screen, icon theme, everything identical.
Your thoughts/opinions/gut feelings? Got till next week to return to Best Buy.
Thanks a lot,
Rich
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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I posted in another thread that I got an app - Screen Balance - from the play store. With that I was able to get rid of more green as it has several adjustments for white balance. Use various adjustments judiciously. I like things cool. Seems *all* amoleds look green to me anyway.
Lest anyone thinks I'm spamming the app, since I mentioned it in another thread, I am not. Just a much happier user. ?
Doesn't solve the aforementioned problems though.
My gripe is temporary image retention. Using dark mode and gray screens, sometimes, the outline of the keyboard will remain on the screen for 5-10 seconds. I notice that if one uses the phone in light mode, it seems perfect, but once in dark mode, it has some minor flaws.
It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
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Oh geezzzz...that:s not encouraging.. looks like I'm holding on hoping for a soft/firmware update. A replacement would probly have the same or worse issue. No burn in here so far.
Definitely keeping my note 9!
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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Your screenshot looks clear to me on my PC, so if you are seeing burn-in then it will be on your screen and will need a replacement, what I was saying is you cannot send someone a SS to show them the burn-in, they would need to look at your screen with their eyes
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This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Same image on the screen for extended periods can cause it too, so if you're always in WhatsApp chat or Facebook app and the same thing is always on the screen you'll be more likely to see it then too
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I did see the issues with the Samsung cases causing the burn in as well. What's funny is that if you speak to a supervisor at the Samsung customer service number and tell them about the screen issues and you have someone else with a Samsung phone call them back hours or a day later and get the same supervisor, they'll tell you that they never had one complaint about the screen. Unless Samsung instructs them it's an issue they can fix, they will not admit it. Still hoping Samsung can correct the yellowish greenish overtone of the general display.
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Scratches show even better ? :silly: