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The Nokia 5.1 plus is the global variant of Nokia X5 (China only). Since a dozen of countries are getting 5.1 plus, it has a much larger exposure. Nokia 6.1 Plus, a similar device, also has its forum instead of the X6. I would like the forum to be renamed.
tag moderators: @apophis9283 @Logix
6 months later, I second this request. it would be nice that the moderators explain why they still didn't
b1283822 said:
The Nokia 5.1 plus is the global variant of Nokia X5 (China only). Since a dozen of countries are getting 5.1 plus, it has a much larger exposure. Nokia 6.1 Plus, a similar device, also has its forum instead of the X6. I would like the forum to be renamed.
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Accidently, I found this thread and it's request two days ago and contacted our admins. Renaming the device forum from "Nokia X5" to simply "Nokia 5.1 Plus" would have caused problems and possibly confusion, too.
As you can see the forum hase been re-named to Nokia X5 (Nokia 5.1 Plus), and we hope that this now serves your requirements.
Please advise if you want the thread to be closed.
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6 months later, I second this request. it would be nice that the moderators explain why they still didn't
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Usually, I don't reply to such a demanding statement. You can easily count the number of moderators here, and we're all volunteers who are doing this "job" for free beside a real life, real family and friends, real business, and all of that takes precedence above XDA, to which you certainly agree. XDA has not only 9.9 million members but also currently about 3.5 million threads and 75.5 million posts. I guess it's easy to recognise that moderators are unable to scan the majority of threads to look for posts, in which support or assistance of a moderator is requested. And please believe my that even a private message might not be useful as this specific moderator to whom the PM is addressed might be offline for days or weeks due to real life commitmens, and the PM will rest unactioned in the inbox for quite some time.
So, instead of posting a complain I suggest to use the established measures to alert the moderators' team and to request support: Just use either the "Report Functionality" or post in "[All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins".
Thanks very much for listening. I hope I was able to explain why nothing happened in this special matter for months.
Oswald Boelcke said:
Accidently, I found this thread and it's request two days ago and contacted our admins. Renaming the device forum from "Nokia X5" to simply "Nokia 5.1 Plus" would have caused problems and possibly confusion, too.
As you can see the forum hase been re-named to Nokia X5 (Nokia 5.1 Plus), and we hope that this now serves your requirements.
Please advise if you want the thread to be closed.
Usually, I don't reply to such a demanding statement. You can easily count the number of moderators here, and we're all volunteers who are doing this "job" for free beside a real life, real family and friends, real business, and all of that takes precedence above XDA, to which you certainly agree. XDA has not only 9.9 million members but also currently about 3.5 million threads and 75.5 million posts. I guess it's easy to recognise that moderators are unable to scan the majority of threads to look for posts, in which support or assistance of a moderator is requested. And please believe my that even a private message might not be useful as this specific moderator to whom the PM is addressed might be offline for days or weeks due to real life commitmens, and the PM will rest unactioned in the inbox for quite some time.
So, instead of posting a complain I suggest to use the established measures to alert the moderators' team and to request support: Just use either the "Report Functionality" or post in "[All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins".
Thanks very much for listening. I hope I was able to explain why nothing happened in this special matter for months.
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You did very right, BTW renaming the forum has no value addition to the Forum, It Serves your phones i think enough.
Yes please close this thread. The request was done. Thank you.
PS: the value to rename the forum is for the forum to show up with search term "Nokia 5.1 Plus". For most people they may not know X5 and 5.1 Plus are related.
b1283822 said:
Yes please close this thread. The request was done. Thank you.
PS: the value to rename the forum is for the forum to show up with search term "Nokia 5.1 Plus". For most people they may not know X5 and 5.1 Plus are related.
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Seriously, Is this phone dead? there's no roms and no Dev Support for this device. Since the launch there's no buzz around this phone and now the release of OnePlus 7T seems to be the final nail in the coffin. Honestly, this phone is amazing and IMO it deserves better Dev Support.
To all the OnePlus 7 Owners, what's your opinion on all this? Are you going to stick with OnePlus 7 or are you going to exchange it for 7t ?
It is not dead
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7/development/rom-potato-sauce-project-t3972743
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Seriously, Is this phone dead? there's no roms and no Dev Support for this device. Since the launch there's no buzz around this phone and now the release of OnePlus 7T seems to be the final nail in the coffin. Honestly, this phone is amazing and IMO it deserves better Dev Support.
To all the OnePlus 7 Owners, what's your opinion on all this? Are you going to stick with OnePlus 7 or are you going to exchange it for 7t ?
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No need for another discussion thread, right under your thread you find the existing one https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7/how-to/oneplus-7-forgotten-one-t3932669
And as already mentioned, there IS development.
TheAnirudhIyer said:
Seriously, Is this phone dead? there's no roms and no Dev Support for this device. Since the launch there's no buzz around this phone and now the release of OnePlus 7T seems to be the final nail in the coffin. Honestly, this phone is amazing and IMO it deserves better Dev Support.
To all the OnePlus 7 Owners, what's your opinion on all this? Are you going to stick with OnePlus 7 or are you going to exchange it for 7t ?
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I'm sorry if these questions are in the wrong place and/or covered in other places... feel free to scold and educate me as necessary.
1: I've been using XDA for a while, and never seen the "Cross Development" forums until recently (specifically the OnePlus devices). What exactly is the difference between Development and Cross-Development. Is the "cross" referring cross-device, cross-nationality, cross-team, or the more ubiquitous form, cross-platform?
(I'm assuming it means cross-device, i.e. the 8 (non pro) x 8 Pro devices, or in the case of the 7, the 7 x 7t, x 7pro x 7t Pro).
2: If my assumption about cross-device is correct, why is this separation of forums necessary? If the roms, bootloader, etc are cross-compatible... isn't this separation superfluous?
Again, sorry if this is a very ignorant question... asking because I want to educate myself.
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I'm sorry if these questions are in the wrong place and/or covered in other places... feel free to scold and educate me as necessary.
1: I've been using XDA for a while, and never seen the "Cross Development" forums until recently (specifically the OnePlus devices). What exactly is the difference between Development and Cross-Development. Is the "cross" referring cross-device, cross-nationality, cross-team, or the more ubiquitous form, cross-platform?
(I'm assuming it means cross-device, i.e. the 8 (non pro) x 8 Pro devices, or in the case of the 7, the 7 x 7t, x 7pro x 7t Pro).
2: If my assumption about cross-device is correct, why is this separation of forums necessary? If the roms, bootloader, etc are cross-compatible... isn't this separation superfluous?
Again, sorry if this is a very ignorant question... asking because I want to educate myself.
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Your assumption is indeed correct, it means cross-device i.e. the published code (ROM's, kernel, mods etc.) are compatible to or suitable for all devices under the umbrella of this x-device sub-forum.
And technically, such a x-device forum exists only once as a sub-forum to a specific device forum; all other respective device fora are just bearing a link to the x-device forum. The purpose of the x-device fora is that a thread with the code, which is suitable for multiple platforms, is published only once and not two, three or four times through duplicate threads. Without precedence, first XDA likes not to have duplicate threads but second - and probably more important - it allows the thread owner and developer to focus for support, assistance and update on a single thread and withdraws the requirement to monitor multiple threads. This (except for the update portion) also applies to our great XDA members who always live the spirit of XDA and try to help and support other members.
Please advise if my explanation wasn't sufficient or if I misunderstood your question. I'm very happy to elaborate more if required.
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Your assumption is indeed correct, it means cross-device i.e. the published code (ROM's, kernel, mods etc.) are compatible to or suitable for all devices under the umbrella of this x-device sub-forum.
And technically, such a x-device forum exists only once as a sub-forum to a specific device forum; all other respective device fora are just bearing a link to the x-device forum. The purpose of the x-device fora is that a thread with the code, which is suitable for multiple platforms, is published only once and not two, three or four times through duplicate threads. Without precedence, first XDA likes not to have duplicate threads but second - and probably more important - it allows the thread owner and developer to focus for support, assistance and update on a single thread and withdraws the requirement to monitor multiple threads. This (except for the update portion) also applies to our great XDA members who always live the spirit of XDA and try to help and support other members.
Please advise if my explanation wasn't sufficient or if I misunderstood your question. I'm very happy to elaborate more if required.
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You explained it perfectly, thank you!
It also explains why I haven't really seen the X-Device sub before, as most of my devices have been A) Carrier specific, or B) Samsung's typical Samsung nonsense which is about as un-crossable as they come from my experience.
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You explained it perfectly, thank you!
It also explains why I haven't really seen the X-Device sub before, as most of my devices have been A) Carrier specific, or B) Samsung's typical Samsung nonsense which is about as un-crossable as they come from my experience.
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I'm glad to hear that I could answer your question.
My first Android device was a Motorola Milestone 2 but since then all devices in our family are Samsungs; even our first ones, S3 LTE GT-i9305, are still in use with great satisfaction. I never buy the lastest but only used ones in good conditions, and my current daily driver is a Galaxy S8+, SM-G955F. But I've to say I was so far pretty happy with the x-device development available in the S8+ forum. However, I'm currently no longer actively monitoring development there as it seems that all have moved to Android 10 and above. And for different reasons, I'm not willing to go beyond Pie - even if security patches aren't anylonger available; but this has also to do with my personal use of a smartphone or better with what I will never use it for.
Enjoy the day - but stay safe and stay healthy!
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Oswald Boelcke
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I'm glad to hear that I could answer your question.
My first Android device was a Motorola Milestone 2 but since then all devices in our family are Samsungs; even our first ones, S3 LTE GT-i9305, are still in use with great satisfaction. I never buy the lastest but only used ones in good conditions, and my current daily driver is a Galaxy S8+, SM-G955F. But I've to say I was so far pretty happy with the x-device development available in the S8+ forum. However, I'm currently no longer actively monitoring development there as it seems that all have moved to Android 10 and above. And for different reasons, I'm not willing to go beyond Pie - even if security patches aren't anylonger available; but this has also to do with my personal use of a smartphone or better with what I will never use it for.
Enjoy the day - but stay safe and stay healthy!
Regards
Oswald Boelcke
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I totally understand. I hated android 5 and 6 with a fiery passion previously unbeknownst to mankind. I refused to upgrade and stuck with 4.4.2 pretty much until android 7/8. To be honest, I still prefer the mod scene and rom scene from good ol' 4.4 days. I really dislike Material (Most would say my opinion is "unpopular" at best, and downright stupid to most). Whether I like it or not, Android, Carriers, Manufacturers, and Developers are changing, and right along with them, XDA is as well. ( If you notice my -signature- the devices don't upgrade by model or release, they pretty much coincide with android upgrades that I liked, lol)
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I totally understand. I hated android 5 and 6 with a fiery passion previously unbeknownst to mankind. I refused to upgrade and stuck with 4.4.2 pretty much until android 7/8. To be honest, I still prefer the mod scene and rom scene from good ol' 4.4 days. I really dislike Material (Most would say my opinion is "unpopular" at best, and downright stupid to most). Whether I like it or not, Android, Carriers, Manufacturers, and Developers are changing, and right along with them, XDA is as well. ( If you notice my -signature- the devices don't upgrade by model or release, they pretty much coincide with android upgrades that I liked, lol)
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Absolutely correct, and we could continue this discussion or these talks for days - all flavoured with own experiences.
By the way: I think this is not device i.e. OP 8 Pro related. Would you mind if I move the thread to the general Q&A: https://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=456
Oswald Boelcke said:
Absolutely correct, and we could continue this discussion or these talks for days - all flavoured with own experiences.
By the way: I think this is not device i.e. OP 8 Pro related. Would you mind if I move the thread to the general Q&A: https://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=456
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Tbh id like to see device specific treble ROMs within device development sections or a sticky in discussion.
The treble sections although busy are littered with poor souls who have specific questions and many don't get answers.
There's a strength in treble which hasn't been explored or exploited as much as it should have been due to a lack of clarity between devices.
Even a known issues or knowledge base section would work.
It'll end up with everyone simply ignoring treble due to a lack of info on each GSI..
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Tbh id like to see device specific treble ROMs within device development sections or a sticky in discussion.
The treble sections although busy are littered with poor souls who have specific questions and many don't get answers.
There's a strength in treble which hasn't been explored or exploited as much as it should have been due to a lack of clarity between devices.
Even a known issues or knowledge base section would work.
It'll end up with everyone simply ignoring treble due to a lack of info on each GSI..
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The decision if and when a device receives its own forum solely rests with the administrators (as far as I know in close coordination with the site owners). I'm also aware that they take multiple aspects into consideration but I'm lacking details. And same applies to dedicated sub-fora or sections.
I'm not familiar with treble ROM's or GSI's due to my devices but more my personal requirements especially regarding privacy. I guess I haven't changed the system on my daily used device for more than one year. Why to change a running horse?
Consider to provide your suggestions to the site's admins via the XDA Contacts & Help. It carries a specific form for (private) suggestions to make XDA better: https://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#suggestion. But if you want to go publicly I suggest this thread that you already know and where also we both communicated: [All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA
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The decision if and when a device receives its own forum solely rests with the administrators (as far as I know in close coordination with the site owners). I'm also aware that they take multiple aspects into consideration but I'm lacking details. And same applies to dedicated sub-fora or sections.
I'm not familiar with treble ROM's or GSI's due to my devices but more my personal requirements especially regarding privacy. I guess I haven't changed the system on my daily used device for more than one year. Why to change a running horse?
Consider to provide your suggestions to the site's admins via the XDA Contacts & Help. It carries a specific form for (private) suggestions to make XDA better: https://www.xda-developers.com/contact/#suggestion. But if you want to go publicly I suggest this thread that you already know and where also we both communicated: [All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA
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Aye I'll suggest it
In a nut shell what will happen is, someone will make a treble ROM. Then everyone from all corners of XDA and wider will turn up and say will this work on this device or this device..
9/10 they won't get an answer. That's what I'm driving at..
I change phone two days ago for Xiaomi 11T pro. First thing that I always do , I go to XDA community of course
my questio is , why is not like on my previous phones Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Mi 10 T lite. no categories , no segments for each stuff like:
Acessories
Themes ,Apps
ROM ,kernels
Guides , News​Question , Answers
Real Life Review
why we dont have that ? is it because phone is relativly new ,and dont have much support yet... I saw firt custom rom come out today.. Paranoid OS...
when will you create this categories?
this is what I mean:
tze_vitamin said:
I change phone two days ago for Xiaomi 11T pro. First thing that I always do , I go to XDA community of course
my questio is , why is not like on my previous phones Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Mi 10 T lite. no categories , no segments for each stuff like:
Acessories
Themes ,Apps
ROM ,kernels
Guides , News​Question , Answers
Real Life Review
why we dont have that ? is it because phone is relativly new ,and dont have much support yet... I saw firt custom rom come out today.. Paranoid OS...
when will you create this categories?
this is what I mean:
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Not every device gets its own forum, it depends on how popular the device is, how large its communiry of users is and how much "original" custom development is available for. If your device is a cheap, low end device or if it does not have a lot of users here or if there are no original custom developments or if there are only a small number of custom developments, the device will not get its own forum.
Wait a while, if more people use the device and if there are a lot of custom developments made available for it, then it "might" get its own forum.
XDA does not create new forums for every device on the market just because the device exists. It takes time and work add a new section to XDA, they can't afford to waste time or server space to create a forum for every device that is released. It would be a waste of server space to create a forum for devices that are not popular, does not have a large community of users or has very little or no original custom development. Even if a lot of development is made available, it still wont get a forom unless it is "original" development, meaning, if it is not something created by someone else for another device then modified to work on your device, that is not "original development", that is only "development".
In the future, don't buy a device and THEN come here to XDA expecting custom development without checking XDA before you buy the device. A better idea is to check XDA before you buy a device to see what devices it supports and what is available for those devices then decide which device you are going to buy based on what is already available at XDA. Otherwise, you take a chance buying a device that may or may not ever be supported by XDA.
tze_vitamin said:
I change phone two days ago for Xiaomi 11T pro. First thing that I always do , I go to XDA community of course
my questio is , why is not like on my previous phones Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Mi 10 T lite. no categories , no segments for each stuff like:
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@tze_vitamin
I assume you're referring to the layout of the forum of your new device:
Xiaomi 11T Pro
The Xiaomi 11T Pro is a 6.67" phone with a 1080x2400 resolution display. The Qualcomm SM8350 Snapdragon 888 5G chipset is paired with 8/12GB of RAM and 128/256GB of storage. The main camera is 108+8+5MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 5000mAh capacity.
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Slightly more than a year ago, XDA transition from vBulletin to Xenforo, and for several reasons but mainly to speed up XDA our site owners decided that new device fora won't have section/sub-fora any longer but use prefixes in the threads to indicate the respective category and to allow filtering for easy searches.
So, the fora of your previous devices were created prior to the transition to Xenforo, and the Xiaomi 11T Pro one after the transition.
A XDA search might have brought you to this post by @sd_shadow; please ahve a look into it for further explanations and how-to-use suggestions:
[Index] XDA 2021: How to Navigate the New Site Layout
XDA 2021 [INDEX] Helpful Information Welcome, this thread has been created to encompass everything you may need to navigate the new site layout. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank...
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still we have Q&A subforum in older device forums, and even more confusing contradictory sticky threads like this
*** Questions do not go in the General Section ***
The General Sections are for information sharing only, not for questions, support, requests... Etc... Etc. Please use the Q&A section for questions of any kind. Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting Thanks! Your Moderation Staff
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This forum is for all questions, big or small, you might have. Please read the rules in this forum before submitting any Q&A.This forum is a Questions section, which means each reply is treated as an answer that can be up/down voted by the community. Then, the original poster can choose the best...
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aIecxs said:
still we have Q&A subforum in older device forums, and even more confusing contradictory sticky threads like this
*** Questions do not go in the General Section ***
The General Sections are for information sharing only, not for questions, support, requests... Etc... Etc. Please use the Q&A section for questions of any kind. Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting Thanks! Your Moderation Staff
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General Questions and Answers
This forum is for all questions, big or small, you might have. Please read the rules in this forum before submitting any Q&A.This forum is a Questions section, which means each reply is treated as an answer that can be up/down voted by the community. Then, the original poster can choose the best...
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Thanks very much indeed for your post and especially the first link. I've removed that thread. For whatever reason it was indeed at the wrong location.
Not as an excuse but as a probable explanation: Please count the number of moderators here who are all dedicated XDA users who do this "job" voluntarily and for free besides their real life, real family and friends, real business and occupation. And on a website with more than 3.5 million threads and 75M+ posts we highly depend on hints from our users like e.g. your post.
And regarding, the second linked forum, I've to admit I didn't find the confusing sticky. Can you help me out please? PM is also fine in order not to clutter this thread. Thanks for your cooperation.
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I will send PM when I find more. just to clarify, the second link is the recent one and therefore the valid one. So all questions (regardless if development/device specific or not) belong to the general Q&A threads?
- General Questions and Answers
where each answer is expected as solution (no comments) and can be upvoted, or
- Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
where each reply is a comment and we like to chat about our issues/ideas as usual (no voting feature)
... right??
aIecxs said:
I will send PM when I find more. just to clarify, the second link is the recent one and therefore the valid one. So all questions (regardless if development/device specific or not) belong to the general Q&A threads?
- General Questions and Answers
where each answer is expected as solution (no comments) and can be upvoted, or
- Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
where each reply is a comment and we like to chat about our issues/ideas as usual (no voting feature)
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I agree it's hard to distinguish between the two fora. First, as you correctly said the first one has a voting feature that was set up by the site owners briefly after the transition to Xenforo.
Personally, I distinguish between them that the latter one is for items related to Android while the first one is open for everything related to XDA's subject and objectives. There's a lot of grey in it, and I try to view it very flexible.
Hello everyone!
I would like to post my list of known custom ROMs for the Pixel 7 Pro, since there are apparently a lot of ROMs out in the wild that are not posted here on XDA.
I tried to do this once before, and the thread quickly devolved into people griping about policies on this forum. I must ask that you keep that sh*t to yourself and keep this thread on-topic.
Here is the list of ROMs that I am currently aware of:
GrapheneOS (does not pass standard SafetyNet tests while unlocked, even if it is not rooted)
CalyxOS (Can pass SafetyNet with kdrag0n's latest bypass; does not come with 32-bit support baked in contrary to what I've heard others say)
LineageOS (may be dead, OP has not updated since November 2022)
Corvus (my second-favorite custom ROM; on hiatus due to personal reasons from one of the main developers)
StagOS (currently my favorite custom ROM)
Please post any others that you're aware of!
In another thread I saw somebody mention a ROM called HentaiOS but I had never heard of it before.
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I tried to do this once before, and the thread quickly devolved into people griping about policies on this forum. I must ask that you keep that sh*t to yourself and keep this thread on-topic.
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Hello and good evening, @nooted1
I've closed this thread as a duplicate of yours
Cheetah ROMs list [Total: 18 as of 11 April 2023]
Here, you may find an up-to-date (as much as possible) list of XDA-compliant ROMs for Pixel 7 Pro "cheetah". Please note, however, that most of these are also available for Pixel 7 "panther". Note [17 Feb. 2023]: It has come to my attention that...
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Please review the XDA Forum Rules with special emphasis on rule no. 5 and post only ONCE respectively in an existing thread before creatin a new one. The puclic service announcements (PSA) by different moderators clearly show the issues that have to be avoided in future; no need for a new thread.
I've moved the replies you've received so far here to the old, still open thread - except yours. Please be aware that HentaiOS is banned from XDA i.e. any posts, threads are whatever regarding it get removed!
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Oswald Boelcke
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