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N5 coming tomorrow, any suggestions?

Coming from an AT&T Galaxy S4 to a Nexus 5, does anyone have any rom/kernel suggestions for me before I get it? Which do you use?

nklenchik said:
Coming from an AT&T Galaxy S4 to a Nexus 5, does anyone have any rom/kernel suggestions for me before I get it? Which do you use?
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Nope. Use what you test that you like. We won't recommend what you like because we don't know you. What's best for you is not best for me. Thats why "best" or "recommend me" threads are against the rules.

Which phone are coming from?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

nemofbaby2010 said:
Which phone are coming from?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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The first 6 "words" of post 1 address this.

rootSU said:
The first 6 "words" of post 1 address this.
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Derp my bad I came from a s4 as well first thing I noticed was the screen so the kernel I use is Franco with stock because of the different color profiles which allows you to make your screen look close to a s4's amoled display
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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And stock nexus 5 is already good, but before rooting read up and try to avoid toolkits
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Root. Install Xposed + GravityBox. Done.

marleyfan61 said:
Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Root. Install Xposed + GravityBox. Done.
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Yeah I was thinking about just doing that but I've had really good luck on CarbonROM on my S4

nklenchik said:
.... any suggestions for me before I get it?
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I would read this ....
Hello, and welcome to the forum,
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How to give constructive feedback to developers
How To Logcat
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[Completed] Forum bug regarding "new" users

I've been a member on XDA since 2011, a few years. I haven't really had much in the way of contributions to the community, namely the forums, because I've always been more of a consumer in this realm. I've got a whopping 12 posts in that time. But for some reason, vBulletin as setup in the XDA Forums thinks that I'm still a new user. I'd like to humbly suggest that it be modified to consider the signup date as well.
I discovered this because of a secondary, related bug: I attempted to edit a reply I had just made and was told by the system I had to wait 5 minutes because I was a "new user". I can understand limiting new posts, but the editing of new replies and posts shouldn't be restricted the same. In my case I had forgotten a quote which was the entire context for the reply. Without it, my reply made no sense and for 5 minutes it lacked that context.
Thanks for this place, I hope you all think that's some meaningful feedback.

Hi,
The system is setup to react to post counts. Not time since signed up. But you can feel free to ask here about it,
> General discussion > About xda-developers.com > [All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins
Good luck!

Thank you. Thread closed.

[Resolved] Need Assistance Updating an Old Thread

I know XDA has the 10 post rule, but I signed up to fix an issue with thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890199
The old XDA thread is the top result on Google for renaming Android apps. Thread was renewed by Ashish Mundhra, a writer for www.guidingtech.com, whom necromanced this old tool that is no longer being developed. Normally instead of all this backstory I would have just posted:
A tool that is up to date, works, doesn't need Windows, and is still being developed.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmail.heagoo.apkeditor
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When Google points me to a sour, stale, or dead thread, I like to point that thread to the new information that works if/when a solution is found.
It's disappointing I can't do this directly but I understand, so can one of you do it? I think the spirit of a site like this is community help and support.
Why I don't think this new post is forum necromancy:
Forums are great sources of information so long as the content is on point and furthers the topic. Post's like "It doesn't work for me." I believe is necromancy. However, providing a solution using modern hardware or an alternative I believe is a great asset to forums.
What are other user's thoughts? Would someone be able to update this thread for me? If not, why?

Why not actively posting on the thread you think it needs to be updated ? Whoever reads the thread would eventually see your post I guess ...
Do you want someone to add your thoughts on the first post of that thread ?

Unfortunately xanthrax, as a new member I cannot post to developer forums. I would need assistance from another member to do what you suggest.
Message received when attempting to post.
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New members (those with few posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and software. New users can read posts and download files, just cannot post for a bit.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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TehZig said:
Unfortunately xanthrax, as a new member I cannot post to developer forums. I would need assistance from another member to do what you suggest.
Message received when attempting to post.
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Hi !
That`s ok and due to not enough posts count.
All new members must reach 10 posts across the forum in order to be able to participate on the development section by helping around .
This will make them get accustomed to our website before jumping into the development section.

No problem. I've lurked years but only now created an account.
As to the purpose of this thread, my thoughts were that I could possibly gather relevant post replies while debating my own topic for 10 posts.
The 10 post rule is a good one. Not everyone has dialed into information via BBS and used the internet before it became popular for information, instead of popular for instant messaging.

Well you're almost there, welcome to XDA [emoji6]

Why page look like this?

I change phone two days ago for Xiaomi 11T pro. First thing that I always do , I go to XDA community of course
my questio is , why is not like on my previous phones Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Mi 10 T lite. no categories , no segments for each stuff like:
Acessories
Themes ,Apps
ROM ,kernels
Guides , News​Question , Answers
Real Life Review
why we dont have that ? is it because phone is relativly new ,and dont have much support yet... I saw firt custom rom come out today.. Paranoid OS...
when will you create this categories?
this is what I mean:

tze_vitamin said:
I change phone two days ago for Xiaomi 11T pro. First thing that I always do , I go to XDA community of course
my questio is , why is not like on my previous phones Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Mi 10 T lite. no categories , no segments for each stuff like:
Acessories
Themes ,Apps
ROM ,kernels
Guides , News​Question , Answers
Real Life Review
why we dont have that ? is it because phone is relativly new ,and dont have much support yet... I saw firt custom rom come out today.. Paranoid OS...
when will you create this categories?
this is what I mean:
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Not every device gets its own forum, it depends on how popular the device is, how large its communiry of users is and how much "original" custom development is available for. If your device is a cheap, low end device or if it does not have a lot of users here or if there are no original custom developments or if there are only a small number of custom developments, the device will not get its own forum.
Wait a while, if more people use the device and if there are a lot of custom developments made available for it, then it "might" get its own forum.
XDA does not create new forums for every device on the market just because the device exists. It takes time and work add a new section to XDA, they can't afford to waste time or server space to create a forum for every device that is released. It would be a waste of server space to create a forum for devices that are not popular, does not have a large community of users or has very little or no original custom development. Even if a lot of development is made available, it still wont get a forom unless it is "original" development, meaning, if it is not something created by someone else for another device then modified to work on your device, that is not "original development", that is only "development".
In the future, don't buy a device and THEN come here to XDA expecting custom development without checking XDA before you buy the device. A better idea is to check XDA before you buy a device to see what devices it supports and what is available for those devices then decide which device you are going to buy based on what is already available at XDA. Otherwise, you take a chance buying a device that may or may not ever be supported by XDA.

tze_vitamin said:
I change phone two days ago for Xiaomi 11T pro. First thing that I always do , I go to XDA community of course
my questio is , why is not like on my previous phones Poco f2 pro and Xiaomi Mi 10 T lite. no categories , no segments for each stuff like:
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@tze_vitamin
I assume you're referring to the layout of the forum of your new device:
Xiaomi 11T Pro
The Xiaomi 11T Pro is a 6.67" phone with a 1080x2400 resolution display. The Qualcomm SM8350 Snapdragon 888 5G chipset is paired with 8/12GB of RAM and 128/256GB of storage. The main camera is 108+8+5MP and the selfie camera is 16MP. The battery has a 5000mAh capacity.
forum.xda-developers.com
Slightly more than a year ago, XDA transition from vBulletin to Xenforo, and for several reasons but mainly to speed up XDA our site owners decided that new device fora won't have section/sub-fora any longer but use prefixes in the threads to indicate the respective category and to allow filtering for easy searches.
So, the fora of your previous devices were created prior to the transition to Xenforo, and the Xiaomi 11T Pro one after the transition.
A XDA search might have brought you to this post by @sd_shadow; please ahve a look into it for further explanations and how-to-use suggestions:
[Index] XDA 2021: How to Navigate the New Site Layout
XDA 2021 [INDEX] Helpful Information Welcome, this thread has been created to encompass everything you may need to navigate the new site layout. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank...
forum.xda-developers.com
Regards
Oswald Boelcke

still we have Q&A subforum in older device forums, and even more confusing contradictory sticky threads like this
*** Questions do not go in the General Section ***
The General Sections are for information sharing only, not for questions, support, requests... Etc... Etc. Please use the Q&A section for questions of any kind. Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting Thanks! Your Moderation Staff
forum.xda-developers.com
General Questions and Answers
This forum is for all questions, big or small, you might have. Please read the rules in this forum before submitting any Q&A.This forum is a Questions section, which means each reply is treated as an answer that can be up/down voted by the community. Then, the original poster can choose the best...
forum.xda-developers.com

aIecxs said:
still we have Q&A subforum in older device forums, and even more confusing contradictory sticky threads like this
*** Questions do not go in the General Section ***
The General Sections are for information sharing only, not for questions, support, requests... Etc... Etc. Please use the Q&A section for questions of any kind. Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting Thanks! Your Moderation Staff
forum.xda-developers.com
General Questions and Answers
This forum is for all questions, big or small, you might have. Please read the rules in this forum before submitting any Q&A.This forum is a Questions section, which means each reply is treated as an answer that can be up/down voted by the community. Then, the original poster can choose the best...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thanks very much indeed for your post and especially the first link. I've removed that thread. For whatever reason it was indeed at the wrong location.
Not as an excuse but as a probable explanation: Please count the number of moderators here who are all dedicated XDA users who do this "job" voluntarily and for free besides their real life, real family and friends, real business and occupation. And on a website with more than 3.5 million threads and 75M+ posts we highly depend on hints from our users like e.g. your post.
And regarding, the second linked forum, I've to admit I didn't find the confusing sticky. Can you help me out please? PM is also fine in order not to clutter this thread. Thanks for your cooperation.
Regards
Oswald Boelcke

I will send PM when I find more. just to clarify, the second link is the recent one and therefore the valid one. So all questions (regardless if development/device specific or not) belong to the general Q&A threads?
- General Questions and Answers
where each answer is expected as solution (no comments) and can be upvoted, or
- Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
where each reply is a comment and we like to chat about our issues/ideas as usual (no voting feature)
... right??

aIecxs said:
I will send PM when I find more. just to clarify, the second link is the recent one and therefore the valid one. So all questions (regardless if development/device specific or not) belong to the general Q&A threads?
- General Questions and Answers
where each answer is expected as solution (no comments) and can be upvoted, or
- Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
where each reply is a comment and we like to chat about our issues/ideas as usual (no voting feature)
... right??
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I agree it's hard to distinguish between the two fora. First, as you correctly said the first one has a voting feature that was set up by the site owners briefly after the transition to Xenforo.
Personally, I distinguish between them that the latter one is for items related to Android while the first one is open for everything related to XDA's subject and objectives. There's a lot of grey in it, and I try to view it very flexible.

General Cheetah ROMs list [Total: 18 as of 11 April 2023]

Here, you may find an up-to-date (as much as possible) list of XDA-compliant ROMs for Pixel 7 Pro "cheetah". Please note, however, that most of these are also available for Pixel 7 "panther".
Note [17 Feb. 2023]: It has come to my attention that some of the links here may not be intended to be public at this time. However, I have only been given one specific example (which I have accordingly removed from this list). If any other builders/developers/authors out there would like anything in this list removed, you need only ask and I will comply out of respect for the work that you do <3
Full ROMs:
Official LineageOS 20 (Finally!!!)
https://download.lineageos.org/cheetah
Official CalyxOS (supports all recent Pixel devices)
https://calyxos.org/install/
Official GrapheneOS (inherently fails CTS; supports all recent Pixel devices)
https://grapheneos.org/install/cli
Unofficial AICP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4544403/
Divest OS
https://divestos.org/index.php?page=devices&base=LineageOS
Official Evolution X
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4546503/
Corvus ROM (11/22 sec. patch & is on hiatus; expects to return at some point)
https://download.corvusrom.com/?dir=cheetah/gapps
StatixOS
https://downloads.statixos.com/13-TIRAMISU/cheetah/
SparkOS
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4525165/
StagOS
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4539325/
Paranoid Android Official (11/22 sec. patch)
https://paranoidandroid.co/cheetah
Bliss ROM, built by @omariscal1019:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1luU3cc1Z3sW3zC6lQcf1NOaac19Vfu_o/view
Unit55
https://mega.nz/file/MRNUiKgL#FlRe6RXf3WjcKV5aNfN46c10Uqj_0XZPR0rLEGaC3J8
Pixel Dust
(Not intended to be public at this time. Apologies, I did not know.)
Android 14 Developer Preview
Full: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/14/download
OTA: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/14/download-ota
Cherish OS [Feb. 23 patch] by @Hurt Copain
(needs new link)
crDroid by @omariscal1019
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4574269/
AncientOS by @Hurt Copain
https://ancientrom.xyz/download
riceDroid
https://sourceforge.net/projects/creative-oss/files/cheetah/10.x/
Generic System Images (GSIs):
Official AOSP Developer GSIs (thanks @V0latyle)
https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image/releases
If you know of any other ones, including GSIs, please comment and let us know!
By the way, here is a Telegram channel where frequent news updates to various Pixel 7 and 7 Pro ROMs are posted. It does not require a Telegram account to preview it:
Google Pixel 7/7 Pro Updates – Telegram
Google has updated their Terms of Service for Google Play. They're reasonably easy to read and understand, and for once it's not an overwhelmingly large amount to read.
https://play.google.com/intl/ALL_us/about/play-terms/index-update.html
[11 April 2023: Updated crDroid download link with new XDA forum post link.]

There is another bunch of ROMs on Telegram.

ekin_strops said:
There is another bunch of ROMs on Telegram.
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But don't forget that we are here on XDA and we are not an annex of Telegram
Best regards

dragynbane222 said:
And yet that attitude is harmful to the community as a whole. You're ultimately gatekeeping into there. This type of thing is why there is a mass dev exodus from XDA
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Sorry but it's off topic.
if you want to talk more about it, you can contact me by PM

Sib64 said:
But don't forget that we are here on XDA and we are not an annex of Telegram
Best regards
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hello, we know it well but alas any rom for our model (except the lineaos) of telephone comes out on telegram and not on xda as usual so how should we do when someone asks if such or such rom and output for the p7p? .we are here on a sharing forum so we have no choice but to share the information.
xda should ask the devs why they don't want to post their rom here anymore.

Sib64 said:
But don't forget that we are here on XDA and we are not an annex of Telegram
Best regards
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There is a reason XDA is basically forgotten among the mod community and this arrogant attitude only further supports why all of us now use Telegram.
The redesign of XDA was poorly implemented and to this day the XDA app is almost useless.
However, the real issue is forum moderators like this who seem to be on a power trip and oversee the forums with an iron fist. No one needs this and it only further pushes users away from what used to be a bastion for the modding community as a whole.
I'm very happy with the Telegram community. There are multiple roms already out for Cheetah and Panther with more being worked on as we speak. In fact, most developers migrated to Telegram a long time ago because of nonsense like this. Everyone is helpful and friendly without any arrogance or admins with power trips. The app works perfectly and it's much more user friendly. I suggest that anyone who is interested in the modding community to go to Telegram and drop XDA.

@Starzboy77,
Have you seen my post above where I've wrote "PLEASE, stop the OFF topic.
If you want to discuss by PM, it's not a problem.
Thanks a lot.

Sib64 said:
@Starzboy77,
Have you seen my post above where I've wrote "PLEASE, stop the OFF topic.
If you want to discuss by PM, it's not a problem.
Thanks a lot.
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Why do you want to not make public the issues some XDA users have with how these boards are administered? Actually, I think I do know why and it only further supports what I said above and why user sentiment is where it currently is with XDA.

dragynbane222 said:
And yet that attitude is harmful to the community as a whole. You're ultimately gatekeeping into there. This type of thing is why there is a mass dev exodus from XDA
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I think you´re wrong in this instance. And completely misunderstood the XDA environment.
If a ROM is posted on XDA, it is somehow related to its relevant forum and the people populating the forum.
If posted on Telegram or Baidu, or any other channel for that matter, it is not relevant to this group.

amunarjoh said:
I think you´re wrong in this instance. And completely misunderstood the XDA environment.
If a ROM is posted on XDA, it is somehow related to its relevant forum and the people populating the forum.
If posted on Telegram or Baidu, or any other channel for that matter, it is not relevant to this group.
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What kind of logic is this?
The point of the forums is for users to share information with each other regarding the device the forum is dedicated to. Just because devs don't want to post their work on XDA, no matter the reason, doesn't mean their work is not relevant to the discussion.

Starzboy77 said:
Why do you want to not make public the issues some XDA users have with how these boards are administered? Actually, I think I do know why and it only further supports what I said above and why user sentiment is where it currently is with XDA.
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I prefer how XDA moderates the forums, nearly everywhere else they devolve into random, completely off topic garbage thats its impossible to find solutions and good info. Most groups on Telegram need to be shifted through hundreds of meaningless commentary to find the info needed.

Moderator Announcement ​
Greetings to all. Just thought I'd drop in to share what XDA is and isn't with regardss to TG links and discussion on XDA since this thread has apparently gone off the rails. But first, the rules that we are all required to follow which are stickied at the top of virtually every forum on XDA:
TG Chat Channel Rules:
Spoiler: TG Chat Rules
WhatsApp/Telegram Groups and Channels - Going Forward​
Hello XDA family! Just notifying all members that posting certain links to Telegram and other sites like WhatsApp is now allowed on XDA.
What does that mean?
We will allow links to messages on Telegram and/or other platforms anywhere, as long as they provide content for a discussion, question, or is pertinent news. This is exactly like the guidelines for YouTube links.
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
What is NOT changing?
Only one link to a Telegram support group is allowed in the first post of a development thread on the condition that main support is still provided on XDA. This means you can mention Telegram group: https://t.me/abc in the first post as long as you're providing thorough support in your XDA thread.
What is NOT allowed?
Posts like For support, join my Telegram group: https://t.me/abc. This means you're not willing to provide support to users on XDA.
Drop-and-run posts/threads are still not allowed under the self-promotion rule. So posts/threads like "Come to my channel for xyz" or "Watch my video and like my channel" are still not allowed. Such links will be removed and the member will be contacted regarding XDA Forum Rule #5 for self-promotion (under bullet point #6):
Self-promotion is forbidden, this includes blogs, social media and video channels etc. Random links will be removed.
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We thank all members for their cooperation in this matter, and wish you a pleasant stay on XDA.
Regards,
Your XDA Moderating Team
While I realize that many members like TG for it's real time capability, simply posting TG links that "require" XDA users to register for TG is not acceptable.
If you wish to post DL links to TG that do not require registration, then that is fine. All we're asking is for members to keep as much discussion as possible on XDA since that is why most of us are here for in the first place.
We also realize that TG may in fact be the future of android development since there are virtually no rules to govern such discussions, which of course appeals to many. Having said that,
consider this, would you have even known about those groups in the first place if someone didn't share it first on XDA?
I also understand that many members do not enjoy what some may interpret certain Moderator actions as "Power tripping" or "Iron Fisted." This is often a misunderstanding as to what the Mods on XDA are tasked with doing in the first place, which is simply to make sure that the rules are followed, and that's it. Are we going to make mistakes? Absolutly we will, as will members that wish to dispute our actions, which is why we we prefer to take such disagreements to PM's in order to prevent threads from going OT as this one did. Which is why respect, cooperation, and understanding is a two way street with regards to all the rules on XDA.
Going forward, all we're asking is for members to respect and follow the Forum Rules whether you agree with them or not as I must do as well. If anyone wishes to discuss
the rules with me, or any Moderator actions in a polite and civil manner, them my PM inbox is always open. In the mean time, please let us return to "On topic" discussion of this thread,
and hope everyone has a great day.
Best regards: Badger50

I know I'm slightly late and that my esteemed teammate @Badger50 already cleaned this thread but I assessed that all the posts with a content like "PM me the Telegram link" are off-topic in a thread that intends to share information about ROM availability. I've removed such posts.
Starzboy77 said:
I suggest that anyone who is interested in the modding community to go to Telegram and drop XDA.
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Starzboy77 said:
Why do you want to not make public the issues some XDA users have with how these boards are administered? Actually, I think I do know why and it only further supports what I said above and why user sentiment is where it currently is with XDA.
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Although @Starzboy77 propagates that all "interested in the modding community" to leave XDA behind, I see that he's still available on XDA and didn't go ahead as a good example. I can only speculate about the reasons. @Starzboy77 here's the link to conformably obliterate all your traces on XDA:
Data Deletion Request on XDA-Developers
Please supply your XDA username and the associated email address. For us to process an account deletion, the email/username combo must match. Our representative will email you to confirm your identity. Once we hear back, we will process the account deletion. It can take up to 7 days to process...
docs.google.com
On the other hand, if you decide to stay (something I'd really appreciate) I must ask you to review the XDA Forum Rules prior to your next posting and to determine if you really want to continue to post off-topic e.g. in this threads. If you like to rant or complain about the XDA Forums here is a complete forum, in which you certainly either find an already suitable thread or that allows you to post your own one:
About xda-developers.com
Anything to do more with the site than with the phones. Feature requests, announcements, praise, moaning, etc. :)
forum.xda-developers.com
Alternatively, as you seem to be very unhappy "with how these boards are administered" I invite you to initiate the in your views required changes from inside of the XDA staff and to apply as a forum moderator when you've reached the required 500 forum posts but I know this would mean you can't drop XDA:
We currently need new Forum Moderators
Hi everyone, the moderator team on XDA currently needs some fresh blood. How about sending your application to become a moderator? If : - you have free time to spend on this role, - you fit the minimum requirements (see below), - you are...
forum.xda-developers.com
Regards
Oswald Boelcke
Senior Moderator

On a somewhat related note, I wanted to inform everyone here who cares about root and passing safetynet that you cannot choose Graphene OS, or else you will always be failing hardware attestation even with safetynet-fix and magiskhideprops. Also, LSPosed will not work on Graphene OS, no matter what. I personally found CalyxOS to be almost suitable, but not quite, for the sole reason that I could not log into Pokémon GO with my Google account, which is a necessity for me. I've been happily on the unofficial LineageOS with MindTheGapps and have had zero issues for my personal needs (spoofing pogo location, and normal root stuff).

SparkOS v13.2 BETA2 - Pixel 7 Pro
link :https://mega.nz/file/Hh4FjYpA#y7UKYphwBYPiV3JcSdjTEUOMP1KynSzANoFbNcSmkUI

jejemc said:
SparkOS v13.2 BETA2 - Pixel 7 Pro
link :https://mega.nz/file/Hh4FjYpA#y7UKYphwBYPiV3JcSdjTEUOMP1KynSzANoFbNcSmkUI
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@albinoman887 someone leaked your build

Badger50 said:
Moderator Announcement ​
Greetings to all. Just thought I'd drop in to share what XDA is and isn't with regardss to TG links and discussion on XDA since this thread has apparently gone off the rails. But first, the rules that we are all required to follow which are stickied at the top of virtually every forum on XDA:
TG Chat Channel Rules:
Spoiler: TG Chat Rules
WhatsApp/Telegram Groups and Channels - Going Forward​
Hello XDA family! Just notifying all members that posting certain links to Telegram and other sites like WhatsApp is now allowed on XDA.
What does that mean?
We will allow links to messages on Telegram and/or other platforms anywhere, as long as they provide content for a discussion, question, or is pertinent news. This is exactly like the guidelines for YouTube links.
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
What is NOT changing?
Only one link to a Telegram support group is allowed in the first post of a development thread on the condition that main support is still provided on XDA. This means you can mention Telegram group: https://t.me/abc in the first post as long as you're providing thorough support in your XDA thread.
What is NOT allowed?
Posts like For support, join my Telegram group: https://t.me/abc. This means you're not willing to provide support to users on XDA.
Drop-and-run posts/threads are still not allowed under the self-promotion rule. So posts/threads like "Come to my channel for xyz" or "Watch my video and like my channel" are still not allowed. Such links will be removed and the member will be contacted regarding XDA Forum Rule #5 for self-promotion (under bullet point #6):
We thank all members for their cooperation in this matter, and wish you a pleasant stay on XDA.
Regards,
Your XDA Moderating Team
While I realize that many members like TG for it's real time capability, simply posting TG links that "require" XDA users to register for TG is not acceptable.
If you wish to post DL links to TG that do not require registration, then that is fine. All we're asking is for members to keep as much discussion as possible on XDA since that is why most of us are here for in the first place.
We also realize that TG may in fact be the future of android development since there are virtually no rules to govern such discussions, which of course appeals to many. Having said that,
consider this, would you have even known about those groups in the first place if someone didn't share it first on XDA?
I also understand that many members do not enjoy what some may interpret certain Moderator actions as "Power tripping" or "Iron Fisted." This is often a misunderstanding as to what the Mods on XDA are tasked with doing in the first place, which is simply to make sure that the rules are followed, and that's it. Are we going to make mistakes? Absolutly we will, as will members that wish to dispute our actions, which is why we we prefer to take such disagreements to PM's in order to prevent threads from going OT as this one did. Which is why respect, cooperation, and understanding is a two way street with regards to all the rules on XDA.
Going forward, all we're asking is for members to respect and follow the Forum Rules whether you agree with them or not as I must do as well. If anyone wishes to discuss
the rules with me, or any Moderator actions in a polite and civil manner, them my PM inbox is always open. In the mean time, please let us return to "On topic" discussion of this thread,
and hope everyone has a great day.
Best regards: Badger50
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I agree with everything said here. as a Dev of going on a decade. i hate telegram. but it seemed like its where everyone went and then i just forget about XDA . I think telegram is a sespool. XDA has legitemcy to it as well. its not the mods its the users that pushed away a lot of devs. they don't read anything we go through the trouble of writing up like changelogs or directions or how to take a log or they argue with us about something they know nothing about and it gets really frustrating and we get less motivated to come back and deal with that bs. thats why. so its U GUYS not the mods. if there were no mods this forum would be full of porn and neo nazi memes ... get real people.. on that note. god damnit who leaked my spark build . oh well , cats out of the bag now.. i'll make a post in a bit....

jejemc said:
SparkOS v13.2 BETA2 - Pixel 7 Pro
link :https://mega.nz/file/Hh4FjYpA#y7UKYphwBYPiV3JcSdjTEUOMP1KynSzANoFbNcSmkUI
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don't steal my thunder... lol

{Mod edit: Quoted post has been deleted. Oswald Boelcke}
There is no need to bump a thread that's already been active today...

P6P said:
@albinoman887 someone leaked your build
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oh the balance not good lol