Beautify on rear camera - OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers

There seems to be a beautify effect going on when making pictures of people with the main camera, faces appear wax like. Definitely post process smoothing.
Is there anyway to disable it? It makes pictures of people unacceptable and I don't understand why they don't allow you to disable it.
Even when disabled, the front camera also does it, major disappointment here.

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Instant camera capture with CM7!

This is very simple, buy probably overlooked. I'm thinking it's similar to the HTC Sensation's "instant capture" feature.
Use the volume or search button to take a photo with the default camera app (enable option in camera>menu>advanced options). It pretty much skips the focusing part and the picture is taken instantaneously.. Pretty good quality too, even without the focus.
Useful tip - Thanks!

[Q] Panoramic photo-ICS-Exposure

When I take pictures of a sun scene with my Galaxy Nexus, using the panoramic mode, the light is not uniform so the picture looks horrible (See attached).
Is there an app which uses constant exposure, or something to fix this?
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...nothing?
Info that might help
Hello! I haven't used the feature but I know from the making a panorama "rules" that you have to keep the same exposure in all 3 pictures that you plan to combine. There is huge difference in the amount of light(with and without sun) in the 3 pictures and on automatic mode the camera is trying to compensate in order to correctly expose the picture. Therefore you have to find the manual setting of the exposure and keep it the same for all 3 or any other number of pictures you take for the panorama.
Might help...let me know
It doesn´t work that way, it´s not a combination of three photos, the phone takes lots of them on a single movement, and then it builds the image. The problem is that the camera regulates the exposure automatically, there´s no manual mode.

[APP][2.2.3+/3.2+/4.0+] Smart Selfie - Facial Recognition Voice Guidance

Smart selfie is a FREE voice-guided photography app that use facial recognition to help you take better selfies with the back camera of your phone by giving voice prompts on how to adjust the phone, such as moving it left, right, away, up, etc so that photo participants are well centered in your photos.
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Latest Version is now 1.14. Some pretty exciting features added to make the app easier to use.
1.1.4
*Measure beta (Now gives the size of the movement for up, down, left, right.) *Measure beta now supports Eyeliner mode.
*New Camera settings added - Picture Quality and Picture Size.
*Crash fixes and optimization when taking photos.
*Moved to a new UI. Presets, Detection settings and Camera settings have been moved into the Action Bar and appear as icons.
*Minor bug fixes.
*Redid some voice guidance recordings.
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Normally, to use the better quality and higher resolution camera on the back of your phone to take selfies requires a lot guesswork as you cannot see front screen of your camera
You also need to clumsily click the screen to take the actual photo.
Smart selfie can identify one or multiple faces, then direct the user to move the phone position so that is is in the optimal position. It will then automatically take the photo once your camera is in position.
Another great advantage is not all android smart phones have a front camera so this app would be perfect for owners of such phones to take selfies.
Current selfie apps in the android market simply switch to the lower quality front camera as a default or they might have features that will take photos when your whistle or provide voice commands. This is a rather cumbersome way to take selfies. Some may have a library of cool photos filters and effects, but these do not actually assist in taking the actual photos.
At the time of writing ICS (4.0) is required for full functionality. With 4.0 you can automatically take photos and share them online via social networking sites or pass the photo to other apps for further enhancements.
The core functions will run at 3.2 or higher. The app will lack the ability to share photos if your OS is less than 4.0
For those running and OS between 2.2 and 3.1. You will get the full facial detection and voice guidance feature, however the photo must be taken manually once the camera is in position. (This may be changed in the future.)
Limitations of this version:
*5MP max image taken on back Camera (if your phone is capable of higher resolutions photos will be taken at 5MP)
*Detect Up to 4 people.
Requirements
Min Requirements CPU: 800mhz OS: 2.3+
Recommended Requirements CPU:Quad Core 1Ghz+ OS: 4.0+
Other Requirements: You device needs to have a back camera!!!!!!
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That aside at the moment the UI is a train-wreck, the core functionality seems to work well. Feel free to download the app, take a few selfies and provide feedback to see how it works on different devices.
In additional i would like you know how you feel about:
1) The voice guidance quality? This was taken from several recordings done on an android phone in relatively noisy conditions, I had all sort of background noises like light aeroplanes, garbage trucks, bird tweeting, clothes dryer, strong wind, traffic, and some paper rustling.
2) Do you think it app takes too long to take a selfie?
3) The limitations are they ok? This app allows better quality selfies even on new devices like Samsung galaxy 5, which sports a 2MP front camera.
4) Any other feedback/comments/tips?
Smart selfie Free is available on the google play store the package is
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aidedesk.smartselfie
Happy Snapping !!!!
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the settings should stay between taking multiple pictures & there should be some notification once the picture got taken/
Wait a min
Do you mean a front camera or what? (actually a back camera?)
Sorry but i didnt get the concept...
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the settings should stay between taking multiple pictures & there should be some notification once the picture got taken/
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It did say "say cheese" and I got a picture, but no click, no "how lovely!" or other indication.
This thing is really ingenious, quite nifty, and did work even on my 600mhz single-core-clunker. Voice instructions were on the quiet side (could explain why some users missed them).
The UI could be more modern, but so simple and adequate as-is. But do make it persistent. And the option, at least, to automatically find the up-to four faces without need to ask, might be nice as well.
Selfies with only a rear camera? Got it :good:
You got a very interesting app. But it needs some pruning though. Can you put it in video mode, and user just angles the phone for a selfie, and your app takes a snap automatically when the faces are focussed. Since its a selfie, you know that the face has to be like 30% to 70% of screen area. User opens app, points the back camera at themselves, and tilts the phone in a few angles. You select the best shot automatically. Its just an idea. You would know better
additional suggestions,
apart from wat these people are saying as a suggestions, i have some of my own. but i tried this app and i find this great..only 2 aditional things:
voice guidance should be louder..and (if possible), have proper diction. i have trouble recognizing the voice guide on my phone because volume is a bit low. i tried to use an earphone while testing to take a selfie..and i had trouble when the command says "left" because the female voice's diction sounds like "lift". atleast put an option to adjust voice guide volume..or let it be controllable with volume buttons (you know which of the 2 is the best).
This app does ake decent shots after guiding you. But, please add adequate lighting sensor, or at least the ability for the voice guide to tell you to turn on flash if the lighting condition is low..something like that. i hope you get the idea.
that's all..this is an innovtive app..but as always, there's always room for improvement.
Awesome App
This app is awesome. It even works on 600 MHz phone. And selfies are great. But there should be a click sound to notify user that the picture has been taken. and moreover there should be option to delete the pic directly. Good job @hotspot_volcano :good:
Hope to see changes in next version.
Kill it! Kill it with fire!
Thanks for the feedback from starcallr and Dovidhalevi. I've implemented some of them.
Just released v1.08 after having a lot of fun getting Android v23 installed, took several hours installing and uninstalling after that to get things to compile once i figured out the missing files.
Anyway from the feedback I've made some changes.
*New detection feature: Added Face Zoom (Allows close-up, or further-away selfies.)
*Ability to change volume more easily.
*All settings remembered from previous session.
*Popup reminder showing settings shown at the start of each photo session.
*More audible photo capture sound. (The click is 10X louder now.) But I might replace the audio click with some voice prompt so it would be 3X louder still without sounding out-of place.
#to do list (over the next week)
*Unified settings. All settings appear together in one Alert Dialog. (15% done) Attached a quick layout.. tell me what you think.
*Flash available for low lighting (as for detection it may need a low light facial detection feature which may i may only put in the paid version)
*A delete feature to delete the just taken photo.
*Auto-detect orientation (25% done)
*Fix up app crash after you have successfully taken a photo on your default camera app when you try and return to Smart Selfie on Android OS 2.2 - 3.1
#planned tidbits (over then next year)
*5 or so detection features(paid version probably), most of these will need OpenCV. (The very first version of this app was in OpenCV + NDK)
*Augment Reality features, maybe hats, sunglasses, hair and stuff that would be visible on the screen and automatically placed on detected faces, and would appear in the final photo when taken
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I have tested earlier versions in public places it and the audio is already boosted up ~15db on average. I did have a silly idea of a vibrate morse code which could be used in extremely noisy places. Something like a short + short vibrate for left, short + long vibrate for right. The vibrate wont affect detection as won't be detecting when the vibrations are occurring. But not going to give it a go for now. Flashlight style Flash to give directions might also work, if it doesn't give people epilepsy.
Use of a Bluetooth headset might also be possible for very noisy places.
The UI is old fashion, i've been away from Android a while so Holo Light is giving me serious grief. Thinking about using Action Bar to replace the missing menu and avoid the LGPLv3 HoloEverywhere library. When i do set minimum APK.. the layouts go half sized. Anyway I'd like to concentrate on features at this stage.
There are apps like mine on Windows phone and IOS and I'd like to be the most comprehensive selfie app out there.
As for not requiring to input the right amount of people at the start. The app at the moment will center the detected faces the ask the user to move the camera away to a certain point in hope that the missing people will appear in the screen eventually? If they don't then you get stuck in a loop. But i will consider an auto (at your own risk setting)
WAY better than the previous version/
Amazing App!!
Amazing app!! Lovin it so much!! but ui need to be updated.. Other than that it's a great app for selfie!!!! Really a great job!! @hotspot_volcano
chitrank said:
Amazing app!! Lovin it so much!! but ui need to be updated.. Other than that it's a great app for selfie!!!! Really a great job!! @hotspot_volcano
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Thanks guys the next version is going to be much better. I'm actually quite excited about the next version.
Having spent more time thinking about what to put in the next version, it will have:
*Beginners/Casual Mode (Balance Sensitivity). If you don't mind your face not being perfectly centered in the photo.You can take photos quickly with little hassle. Detected faces will always appear within the photo with no parts cropped off at the side or top of the photo no matter what setting sensitivity is selected.
You can crank it up or down depending on your selfie taking skills and you/your groups patience in taking the perfect selfie.
*A slight change to the voice guidance algorithm. Hopefully this will stop the left right loop if you start with the phone too close to your face. For best results at the moment always start with the phone about 1/2 meter from your face.
*Fix any settings that don't appear to be saved properly. (I'm getting some issues with Preview Size changes sometimes not saving as expected?)
*Delete photo feature option. (Complete, but just don't ask when Windows 7 RTPing you see the deleted ghost files on 4.4 builds?)
*Unified settings. (getting there)
*Increased volume? Most recordings was set to 90% loudness. I'll experimental with increasing them to 100%. Anyway for noisy places I highly recommended using a portable Bluetooth speaker ones that are small enough to be slipped into your pocket.
My flagship test device is the Moto G which is one of the loudest android phones in the market. With speakers pumping out ~87 dB. Most of the commands was fairly audible even in packed and noisy food-court using the default speakers found on back of the phone.
Thanks for the great feedback guys.. Made a few changes in the most recent update. Plus a few more sites decided to showcase my app taking my app over 1000 downloads, and getting myself a small amount of people to test my app to make sure it works and all.
I'm planning a media launch soon as the app is nearly getting there. Have to rewrite my promotional material which was based on the very first version.
The paid version is no where is sight. The free version features that need to be sorted and taking up a lot of time.
The next update is going to be fairly exciting. These are the planned changes.
*An amazing useability feature that makes taking selfies even easier. It will be available on the free version because it would be probably make the free version cripple-wear if i just added it to the paid version. :angel:
*Auto-detect orientation (Yes this got pushed back.. working on it)
*Flash available for low lighting (Yes this got pushed back.. working on it)
*Attempt to fix submitted bug reports.
*UI (Holo light UI - no guarantees which means probably not :silly
*Continue to update the website so people can just use google translate to read the HELP and TUTORIAL notes in their preferred language.
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binu.udaya;54334510. Can you put it in video mode said:
I'm not too familiar with the hardware side of android as far as video mode is concerned, but i was always under the impression you would get lower resolutions under video mode. Moving the camera while taking a photo will cause motion blur.
Well there are already apps out there that do this.I though they just took 3 shots in quick succession. I could probably add such a feature, but i think the photo is pretty accurate. Especially on the higher settings of Face Balance.
Just to give you idea how accurate the balance is. Just say are taking a portrait photo. Your 4.5" screen displays has a preview image that is 5cm across on the screen. If the gap between the face and the left-side of the picture is 1.5cm then the right-hand side gap between the face and the right-side of the picture can not have a difference more than 0.225cm.
I don't know how many people can get a selfie balanced to 1/4 of a cm by looking at their screen. I'm more surprised if they can get that accuracy without looking it and not get any voice guidance.
FYI the v1.08 fixed settings would have required a difference less than 0.3cm based on the above criteria. So if you managed to get a few snaps off at on the v1.08 thats how well balanced your photos are.
That is why i added the Balance sensitivity, the crazy accuracy is not required in all situations. Takes a few dozen shots before you built up the experience to take photos at that level.
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1.1.3 is an amazing new update!!!!!! Manage to squeeze in a bunch of features.
Finally manage to roll out the amazing useability feature Measure. Which provides a size of the movement in addition to the direction. Unfortunately i didn't really have to the time to extend the feature to up and down.
*Presets now available. Pick and choose different presets such as using a selfie stick; propping your camera against say a book then you walk away, photos are taken automatically when your in position; taking photos from different angles such as the Baby face selfie where the camera angle gives the illusion of bigger eyes.
*Eyeliner. Allows the vertical alignment of eyes in your photo. Gives a much larger variety of selfies you can take now.
*Voice Guidance speed is now adjustable. Set it faster if your more experience in using the app or lower if your new or English is not your first language.
*Website updated. All help information is available online and translatable into your preferred language. Link added to Playstore and accessible in app.
Whats in the next version?
*Crash bug fixed hopefully. Be focusing on why there are crashes when photos are taken. Made several changes already.
*Continue to work on Measure (UP,DOWN).. will also look at Measure( closer and away)
*Pickable Photo capture resolution.
*Pickable white Balance Mode (Maybe)
*Holo Light GUI (I'll take a look.. lol)
If you haven't already please try out Smart Selfie v1.1.3 and tell me what you think now?
v 1.14 took a bit longer than my general 7 day for an update but its finally here. Holo-Layout. Some people have been asking for it since v1.03
Forcing low resolution setting on high resolution devices was a MAJOR HEADACHE. Its still has a minor bug with half-sized screen randomly appearing but that's been around since v1.03. While i just moved to Holo layout, I don't want to know anything about Android L.
Lets take a look at our planned updates for v1.1.4 and what was done.
*Continue to work on Measure (UP,DOWN).. Measure Closer and Away (No plans for now)
*Pickable Photo capture resolution.
*Holo Light GUI (I'll take a look.. lol) - Seems Action tool bar works well for all versions of supported android.
*Crash bug fixed hopefully. Be focusing on why there are crashes when photos are taken. Made several changes already. Unfortunately once i started the UI I stopped working on crash fixes so more to come.
v 1.1.5 planned features
*Pickable white Balance Mode (soon i hope)
*A Custom Share Intent. Will be better than the stock one which may have problems with setting a default ShareIntent.
*Revisit and review code that may cause crashing when taking photos.
*In-app volume that does not change your current volume setting (ie not get blasted by the noise from other apps you run after smart selfie)
*General house-tidying of text strings in the app. One step towards the NOT planned in-app multi-language support.
*Creation of shared libraries. So that the paid version can re-branched.
*Small fixes to the UI where deemed necessary.
*Some sort of auto-orientation feature.
EDIT: Managed to get my hands on a LG P500 512 MB RAM, 3.2MP, 600mhz. Updated the rom to 4.04 onto it. Manage to take a photo without crashing though it took a while to show the photo.
The background wallpaper kind of leaks through into the app but i think its just the Rom.
If anyone have a device with 256mb ram try testing it and see if it causes any crashing (due to the lack of memory)

Camera lens hardware damaged or not?

Hi. I have a problem with my S8+. U don't know if it is normal or not. Probably not (S7 photos were flawless, so S8 just can't be worse).
Take a look on this (same photo):
And
With autofocus set to upper left:
Left side is clearly blurred, right side is sharp as it should be.
PS shaking the phone with opened camera app does nothing.
I think you're asking if the periphery is out of focus?
Interesting question. Depth of field is the basic question, as I get it. What should be in focus, is based upon aperture (with correct speed: i.e. light). If I were trouble shooting an old camera, and checking the focus issue, I'd setup a field (stuff in the camera's focus range, at varying depths/distances from the camera), and take some photos in well lit conditions. It is important to know the 'depth of field' of a photo setting, so you can tell if the camera/lens and settings are all working as should be. The distance from the frontmost object, to the rear-most object still in focus, is called the 'depth of (the) field'
Check various distances/ranges from the objects, and see what comes out. If all is well there, I'd try different lighting variances, using the same distances as in step one.
Now, to test out the 'depth' portion of 'depth of field', you can set out a number of things, at varying distances, and given your 'depth of field' for your 'aperture', you should be able to see the things that are 'supposed' to be in the 'depth of field', all in focus. Remember, the smaller aperture, the smaller the hole that the light can pass through, the shorter, or less the 'depth of field', and the faster the shutter speed you can use (less light for a smaller hole). If you use a really large aperture, your camera will use a slower shutter/more light. If you go manual, which is a great way to learn how the camera 'depth of (the) field' works, you'll get a good understanding after a bit of time.
If the different distances and lighting comes out ok, both distance and lighting variances, I'd think you have a reasonable idea of the lens/camera portion is working correctly. The camera should take 'about' equally clear 'clarity', out to it's periphery.
If it's mux'ing up equally distanced (field of view) scenarios, I'd probably call Samsung. I advised well lit, so you can see what your are trying to investigate more clearly. using lighting variances would add to the 'evaluation' process, as that correlates more to a shutter speed.
You could go even further, by putting the camera into manual, and changing the aperture, test that out, and then the speed settings with varying arperture, testing that out . . .
but the basic 'auto' (auto aperture and auto speed) setting ought to work sufficient to get you the idea that yes, it is working/consistent/pretty clear at the periphery, or not. In very good cameras, with excellent lenses, the periphery is pretty spot on with the center of the lens, and that is with a great piece of glass. These cameras do a pretty good job, as well. Periphery is typically the more difficult ''depth of field'', as the lens, in some sense, is an approximation of your eye, with the higher definition in the center. Better lenses have a larger 'center' - some encompassing better to the periphery. Increasing the aperture increases the 'center' = greater 'depth', distance of the front most object that is in focus, to the objects behind a ways.
With the photos you posted up, it'd be necessary to know the aperture and speed being shot, to determine the depth of field (things that should be in focus based upon the aperture setting). Given the lighting, low/poor, a smaller aperture was likely used by the camera, with less/shorter depth of field.
Here is one example on how to calculate the 'field of view'.
http://shuttermuse.com/calculate-field-of-view-camera-lens/
There are hundreds of sites, but the calculation is basically about the same.
Also, if you could find someone near you with the same phone/camera, you could check their photos against yours, given the same parameters as above.
With your photos, above, if you were shooting (manual) with a hight speed, lets say, so less light coming into the lens, and small aperture, you'd have less 'depth of field', less things in focus. The larger the aperture, the more 'depth of field' you have. Speed needs to 'match', so you have the illumination good for the particular 'shot' you are wanting to accomplish. .So it's important to know the range, distance from the camera of the objects, to determining which ones 'should' be in focus, for the specific 'settings', i.e. aperture and speed (ISO) of film, or shutter speed, ASA..
I probably did not share this very eloquently, but I hope it gets across a few of the basic ideas?
Hope this helps.
@JeffDC -EDIT-
Are you trying to say that Galaxy S7 and S8 have different type of lens? I just tried to take a photo with autofocus set to left upper corner (landscape) and now the right side is blurred. IT never happened to me before in any phone or DSLR camera, but still, there is no such "effect" in S8 photos posted online, like https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/34287683905/in/album-72157682994456466/ - whole photo is sharp and clean.
EDIT 2, take a look on last photo in my first post. For me, there is definitely something wrong with my camera.
"Are you trying to say that Galaxy S7 and S8 have different type of lens? I just tried to take a photo with autofocus set to left upper corner (landscape) and now the right side is blurred. IT never happened to me before in any phone or DSLR camera, but still, there is no such "effect" in S8 photos posted online, like https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/34287683905/in/album-72157682994456466/ - whole photo is sharp and clean.
EDIT 2, take a look on last photo in my first post. For me, there is definitely something wrong with my camera."
I'm not saying anything about S7 or S8 differences. I was providing a method for you to test out your camera, no matter what type or from where.

How do I take non focused pictures?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/EKvnpp9ohD4zT45DA
I have a problem with both stock cam and Gcam, both pictures in the link are taken extremely close to the "first obstacle", a flower in one and plants in the other. In the flowers picture everything else gets blurred, in the plants picture where there is no clear focus object everything looks crispy.
I have noticed this with a lot of my photos, if there is something stealing the attention the camera blurs everything else too much, I want everything in my pictures to always be crispy ... how do I do that?
I just always use normal mode without touching anything else, don´t know much about photography, I just want the blurriness gone.
@AurioDK just use tap to focus, when you are taking a photo, tap the part of the screen you want to focus. Works for the front camera too if you take some pics there
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@AurioDK just use tap to focus, when you are taking a photo, tap the part of the screen you want to focus. Works for the front camera too if you take some pics there
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But I don´t want to focus on anything usually, I just want the picture to be all crispy like the "plant" one. Should I just click on the sky or some object in the distance? The funny thing is that I don´t have this problem with indoor pictures, only outdoors.
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But I don´t want to focus on anything usually, I just want the picture to be all crispy like the "plant" one. Should I just click on the sky or some object in the distance?
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You can use Pro mode (swipe up at bottom of camera app). It will take longer to get a shot, but if you were using a dslr I would expect the same. Its the 3rd option in pro mode, a focus wheel with very nice haptic feedback.
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But I don´t want to focus on anything usually, I just want the picture to be all crispy like the "plant" one. Should I just click on the sky or some object in the distance? The funny thing is that I don´t have this problem with indoor pictures, only outdoors.
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You've got the terms reversed somewhat. What you want is everything in focus, not 'non focused'. If something is not in focus, it is blurry. You seem to be replacing the word "focus" with "crispy" which is just making up words and confusing the issue. I read the thread title to mean you want everything in the photo to be blurry (which is what it is saying in reality) which would just make it look like the camera is broken!
If your distance to the subject is very small, and the background is very far, you aren't going to be able to get both in focus. It's just the physics of how lenses/cameras work. If you change the focus point to a distant object, the subject (near object) will be blurry. You can't focus on both, if they are too far apart.
The reason you don't see this problem indoors, is due to the fact that the background is much closer. It's the distance between the subject and the background (particular outdoors, where the background tends to be much farther away) that is causing the background to blur. Find an indoor setting, with the same distance (between subject and background) and I guarantee that you will have the same result (blurry background).
The closer the objects in the photo are to each other (distance to the camera) the easier it is to get them both in focus. You can decrease the background blur, by increasing your distance to the subject (near object) but you may lose the intended composition. Using the "Pro" mode as another suggested, is also a good idea. Use a smaller aperture (higher f-stop number) and minimal optical zoom. Since both aperture and focal length (optical zoom) both affect the depth of field (which in turn determines how blurry the background will be). In fact, I can see from the photo metadata in your gallery, that the photos are taken at f/1.65, which is a very large aperture, and maximizes background blur. Force the f-stop to a larger value in "Pro" mode, and you will likely see the background blur decrease. Although distance to subject, and distance of the background are still major factors.
Also keeping in mind that changing the f-stop will also affect the shutter speed and ISO. They are all inter-dependent, and known as the "exposure triangle". So you may need to manipulate the ISO or shutter speed to achieve the desired results.
Note: Made some major edits to the post. I noticed the pics in the gallery are taken at f/1.65 (presumably on automatic settings), which may be a major factor in the background blur. Somewhat changed some of my thinking on how to get the results that are desired by the user.
AurioDK said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EKvnpp9ohD4zT45DA
I just always use normal mode without touching anything else, don´t know much about photography, I just want the blurriness gone.
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I little reading on how depth of field works may answer your question and also help you take the pictures with desired results. There is an easy read at:
https://digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/
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You've got the terms reversed somewhat. What you want is everything in focus, not 'non focused'. If something is not in focus, it is blurry. You seem to be replacing the word "focus" with "crispy" which is just making up words and confusing the issue. I read the thread title to mean you want everything in the photo to be blurry (which is what it is saying in reality) which would just make it look like the camera is broken!
If your distance to the subject is very small, and the background is very far, you aren't going to be able to get both in focus. It's just the physics of how lenses/cameras work. If you change the focus point to a distant object, the subject (near object) will be blurry. You can't focus on both, if they are too far apart.
The reason you don't see this problem indoors, is due to the fact that the background is much closer. It's the distance between the subject and the background (particular outdoors, where the background tends to be much farther away) that is causing the background to blur. Find an indoor setting, with the same distance (between subject and background) and I guarantee that you will have the same result (blurry background).
The closer the objects in the photo are to each other (distance to the camera) the easier it is to get them both in focus. You can decrease the background blur, by increasing your distance to the subject (near object) but you may lose the intended composition. Using the "Pro" mode as another suggested, is also a good idea. Use a smaller aperture (higher f-stop number) and minimal optical zoom. Since both aperture and focal length (optical zoom) both affect the depth of field (which in turn determines how blurry the background will be). In fact, I can see from the photo metadata in your gallery, that the photos are taken at f/1.65, which is a very large aperture, and maximizes background blur. Force the f-stop to a larger value in "Pro" mode, and you will likely see the background blur decrease. Although distance to subject, and distance of the background are still major factors.
Also keeping in mind that changing the f-stop will also affect the shutter speed and ISO. They are all inter-dependent, and known as the "exposure triangle". So you may need to manipulate the ISO or shutter speed to achieve the desired results.
Note: Made some major edits to the post. I noticed the pics in the gallery are taken at f/1.65 (presumably on automatic settings), which may be a major factor in the background blur. Somewhat changed some of my thinking on how to get the results that are desired by the user.
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I found out how, your post gave me the answer. It´s as you said, I need to keep a certain distance to the closest object and the margin between an "all focus" and "object focus only" picture is very small. I played a bit with a coke bottle on a lawn to get a feeling and I think I now have it. I finally managed to get the pictures I wanted, it´s just a matter of keeping the closest object a bit further away. Thank you.

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