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I know someone is developing cm7 on our device. Maybe there is a way to motivate dev to get fully functional cm7 and cm9, and the most beloved miui in the end. (when there will be CM maybe the miui team will get interested in our device)
So maybe support some devs financially to make things happen and push the development forward.
What do you think?
I´m in. I have no idea on how difficult is to port all 3D stuff to CM7, but I know one thing: we´re talking about an API that only the O3D uses so far, and I have no consistent info about other devices using it in the future.
So, for now, all the effort to fully support the Real3D API is something that will not be used for any other phone, which is not good considering anything else done in CM is shared among several devices.
Given all this, I completely agree an extra incentive will be appropriate.
And I go beyond that: if we really donate, I would love to see some docs, how to´s, or at least a log of the daily work. CM development all a mistery for me, and I´m very interested in learning how this stuff work.
I am in, I have already donated to cyanogen mod website but will donate again directly to the person taking care of the nightlies releases.
feels guilty using without paying
I'm just wondering how to organize it? Should we contact to the person which actually ports cyanogen to our devices or maybe make some contest for the willing to earn some money developers ?
Should we set some goal to which amount of money we must collect.. But first the dev must appear and his paypal account that we sent money to.
Any person willing to organize things? Maybe some moderator who wants to cooperate? Some announcement would be helpful...
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I'm just wondering how to organize it? Should we contact to the person which actually ports cyanogen to our devices or maybe make some contest for the willing to earn some money developers ?
Should we set some goal to which amount of money we must collect.. But first the dev must appear and his paypal account that we sent money to.
Any person willing to organize things? Maybe some moderator who wants to cooperate? Some announcement would be helpful...
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want a fully working cm or MIUI asap and don't care about the expenses? find tripnraver and buy him an o3d. you will have MIUI at least really really fast. I can contact him if you want to see if he is interested... He did an excellent job with MIUI on the x10 when we had only eclair available and locked bootloader and the like and he is the one who ported the bravia engine to another phone for the first time (the x10) only a week after arc rom was dumped... he then bought an htc sensation and ported MIUI to them within a week... he is awesome dev though a bit touchy with people using his work in other roms...
Yes, please ask him if he's interested. Maybe we would buy him a phone, what do you think ppl? Miui i one of the best and probably the fastest ROM ever.
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Yes, please ask him if he's interested. Maybe we would buy him a phone, what do you think ppl? Miui i one of the best and probably the fastest ROM ever.
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ok will do as soon as i get a chance.that means most likely tonight. if you head over to the sensation forums over at modaco you wilm see what i mean. he has like 8-9 different roms going on and his tripnmiui is also mentioned-included in the official miui site though he is not part of the miui team... he is a one man army...
I think the most important point is Real3D porting. Arcee already made clear he´s not going to port it in his CM7 work.
If we´re going to create some "incentive" for someone to have CM and/or MIUI for the O3D, it´s important to discuss beforehand about having Real3D ported, otherwise it´s not worth, in my opinion.
maybe we can collect some money and give it to the developer who give us a fully functionaly rom
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I think the most important point is Real3D porting. Arcee already made clear he´s not going to port it in his CM7 work.
If we´re going to create some "incentive" for someone to have CM and/or MIUI for the O3D, it´s important to discuss beforehand about having Real3D ported, otherwise it´s not worth, in my opinion.
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We should ask if it's possible to port this whole 3d stuff, as he is experienced he will know such thing and give the answer.
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nope I just still cannot get a hold on finding him. seems he is mostly on when i am offline and vice versa.... when i reach him i will let you know. Or you could head over to androidmodaco sensation forums and ask him yourself if you see him online. Name is TriNRaVeR and he has like 6-7 active rom threads there...
update: contacted tripnraver today(finally) and he said he will do some studying on the matter and come back to me but he needs to know what we need as he will most likely have time to dev only one rom for us (he prefers doing MIUI in general) and he will need a phone to work on so we will have to find a way of getting him one. he doesnt mind porting proprietary code so he will of course port real 3d to his rom (he did that with bravia engine which he pulled out of an early arc test phone. he was the first to do that btw). Only thing he always demands is that people ask him before using his work on other roms and when they do give him due credits. And of course all his work will be posted on AndroidModaco as he wants nothing to do with this here site for his own reasons.... basically we need to make sure what we need and find out how to get his hands on an o3d
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update: contacted tripnraver today(finally) and he said he will do some studying on the matter and come back to me but he needs to know what we need as he will most likely have time to dev only one rom for us (he prefers doing MIUI in general) and he will need a phone to work on so we will have to find a way of getting him one. he doesnt mind porting proprietary code so he will of course port real 3d to his rom (he did that with bravia engine which he pulled out of an early arc test phone. he was the first to do that btw). Only thing he always demands is that people ask him before using his work on other roms and when they do give him due credits. And of course all his work will be posted on AndroidModaco as he wants nothing to do with this here site for his own reasons.... basically we need to make sure what we need and find out how to get his hands on an o3d
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I am ready to donate some also...
For me miui would be fine, don't know if it's ok with the others.
So we must have (his) pay pal account to send some money. I hope there are enough ppl who want to contribute. And how much costs optimus 3d where he lives..
ill send money if us thrill users can get a working port
Sent from my LG Thrill 4G...
Are there any HW differences between these two? Or just basebands? Different modems? Gsm vs cdma?
Sorry for the newbie question, but isn´t necessary to have a fully working CM before building MIUI? In other words: isn´t MIUI derived from CM?
If so, he will need to first work on a CM version, and only then go for MIUI, instead of directly going for a MIUI ROM...
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Sorry for the newbie question, but isn´t necessary to have a fully working CM before building MIUI? In other words: isn´t MIUI derived from CM?
If so, he will need to first work on a CM version, and only then go for MIUI, instead of directly going for a MIUI ROM...
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in what i have seen from his developing for the x10 back then he ported miui from scratch. but even so we have nightlies so he takes that, fixes bugs, ports real3d and delivers the package and you can count on his keeping us supported afterwards. plus no need to get him a brand new o3d just a working one so he can work.... but i still need to hear news from him. said he needs some time to do his.homework first cause never had an lg(well he never had an htc either but when he bought sensation he delivered an almost perfect MIUI within one and a half week kernel included
edit: he lives in netherland btw. and you can check his works in androidmodaco sensation forums if interested...
I am ready to donate..
Why is it that ever since the Sensation has come out that there is very little to no AOSP support and/or development for it?
The closest we ever seem to have are Sense-stripped ROMs, and it's so annoying.
Now the CM9 team has stopped Sensation development? What the hell is going on?
Is it the Sensation's architecture that renders it just that difficult for our very respected and talented developers to provide such content?
I despise Sense with the deepest passion imaginable. May someone please explain the lack of AOSP support for this amazing device?
Excuse my ranting but I can't hold out for much longer without knowing a clear answer.
i agree with u
Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.
And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.
Matt
First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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Dude, seriously get a grip. Our very own devs are working on it and have a 2nd alpha release already out. Look in the dev section and you'll see the be from virtuous. It's got it's bugs, but it's we'll on its way to stardom. Forget cm9, those people don't know what it means to finish what they start. Take stock in our devs, as they are working their butt off as we speak.
And yes, it's no easy task. Ics is radically new and different. Give it some time and some more Htc release before we have a solid rom.
Matt
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For sure, I understand, I'm not trying to be ignorant, I just love AOSP.
Also, with my previous Android device being the myTouch 4G, it received an AOSP ROM, actually a variety of them rather quickly.
Like I said I respect our developers and love them to death, I'm just having AOSP withdrawals. HTC Sense is tearing me apart
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First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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I knew about the Alpha ROM, just wish it wasn't the only one in development. I believe I saw the CM9 info in another thread. Apparently it was mistaken.
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First off, yes there is an alpha AOSP ICS from the virtuous team that looks promising. Second, CM did not drop the sensation. Dunno where you got that info. Kmobs just posted this on twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/kmobs/status/160440102626136066
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I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
Matt
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I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
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And I thank the Virtuous team for tackling the project. No one else seems to care, guess Sense has everyone by the neck.
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I'll believe it when I see it. If he's telling the truth, then communcation is key...his g+ paints a different picture. One with the GN getting all the attention.
Oh well, I feel team virtuous is well ahead of him anyways and they also are more than one or two dudes working on a charity case.
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I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.
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I highly doubt a respected developer such as kmobs would be lying to our faces. While the way CM team operates might be infuriating to us flashaholics, they are secretive for a reason. They want a high quality release with initially all internal efforts. And hey, its gotten them to a millions users, so they must be doing something right.
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No one from cm7 has said that development has stopped. These devs have lives and other things to do and other problems to deal with. Kmobs doesn't want to release a buggy Rom which I think is good.
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When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.
When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.
If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.
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When you pay the CM developers a salary, then you can complain about their release schedules.
When they give you their work for free, it'll come out when they are ready for it to come out and you ought to be grateful.
If it doesn't come out at all, you've got nothing to complain about because you didn't do anything to help it come out.
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News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.
Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.
Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.
If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.
Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way.
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News flash, they are playing with the idea of charging for things in the future. They want to have their own marketplace and make money on the side for this and that. Check Kmobs g+ for more information. They're going to have to get used to quite a bit more if they want to be successful. Communication is key, and in this case, king. They better get used to a whole lot more the second they receive money for an app.
Also, no one is *****ing about not having cm9 yet, they are *****ing about the secrecy as to whether or not it is even still a possibility. I believe it was mentioned that many other OLDER phones have some version of cm9 already, yet we don't.
Also, they never said cm7 was over either, yet the consensus says that it is. We've heard zip officially about cm9 or cm7.
If this is how they run their future paid for apps business, I'll steer clear as will most. As for now, I'm sure they enjoy the free beers they get from all the donations. It would be a nice gesture of them to give an update about cm9.
Aside from Kmobs and company, it's refreshing to see a group of people working hard on an ics aosp. Once they get a few more things ironed out, I'm sure they will see a lot more donations coming their way.
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And I'm stoked about the Virtuous project.
I also understand these concerns of "you're not doing much to help" yet all I'm saying, is that I think a powerful and amazing device such as the Sensation should have more of an AOSP ROM variety. Most other devices have all kinds of AOSP ROMs.
I wish all of us, the Sensation community, would have worried more about AOSP ROMs other than our huge database of Sense based ROMs. Don't get me wrong, however, our Sense ROMs are absolutely amazing and they've helped my patience along with, I'm sure, many other user's patience as well.
This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently).
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This is what i have been thinking since i moved from mytouch 4g to sensation. I just don't know why but it looks like sensation users/developers is not interested in MIUI rom ( i only see 1 MIUI rom, and it not fully working, no update recently).
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Actually, the MIUI ROM in the dev section has been updated as of a few days ago. Also there is another highly functional MIUI ROM floating around but linking to it is forbidden. Hit up google if interested.
I think CyanogenMod has to be secretive to function.
You make a good point, I haven't seen hardly any AOSP roms for the sensation besides cyanogenmod. Although I think cyanogenmod 7 is ridiculously fast, and it's aosp, I quite like it...and cm9 beta is available for the sensation, but I agree with the fact that they don't announce ANYTHING...their last update on cm9 was like december 9th.
However, if you think of it from their perspective, can you possibly imagine releasing a buggy beta rom to THAT many people? I mean, the first rom a lot of people hear about is cyanogenmod, so all of the new people would flash that, and we all know how many new people can't read a set of clear instructions...
So, i think that it is almost required for them to keep it on the down low, to avoid mass confusion and complaining from every single user who can't read...It's like when you read the comments morons leave in the market...
anyways, sorry to rant. but Yeah, I think that they pretty much have to be more secretive, not all of their users are active forum members seeking to better the community and not be ignorant.
I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.
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I've always been curious why A2DP bluetooth and the camera are always the hardest things to fix on most phones when compiling an AOSP ROM. I thought the ROM source would help with that, but I don't know exactly how it works.
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From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.
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From what I understand, both of those things (including wifi hotspot) are kernel related. It's hard to dev's to fix those things without the proper kernel source.
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Ah that helped me understand a lot more.
just an fyi that xda isn't the only place to find roms...
Are there any good Devs for our Sensation XL devices,we have a few good roms but suddenly every good Developer is leaving us because they buy them self a new phone,like One X and so on. Now they have a new phone and those of us that just bought Sensation XL or cannot afford a better one like One X, now we are left behind with maybe one or two devs ( and they have so little time,or dont even have SXL for testing). And Roms that are available are not being updated, and nobody is giving any support. Now i really regret that i sold my Desire HD-THE BEST PHONE EVER AND WITH MANY DEVELOPERS HERE ON XDA,AND MANY UPDATED ROMS ,THEMES, SUPPORT AND SO ON. I am asking you folks here to help us find a good Developer/s for making some new Roms or atleast to help us update some old Roms ,like Sense 4.0 lite. Thanks for any reply
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Wow Im trying to find a stable rom for my buddies mt4gs and their roms are all terrible maybe because its a laggards phone having that stupid keyboard and all. I love my Sensation and our developers kick ass !!!!!!
There's not much development for that phone at all.
Thankfully the Sensation is a worldwide device and we have dev's from all over the world making roms for us.
Yes the development on the sensation is great when you go to the development already you can find update every single day down there are you use or droid actually now it's called coin droid and it's updated all the time I love since 4 it's much better than all the other senses once people get a little bit more tweaks going for it it'll be perfect so I also thank the devs good job.
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Watch your language and attitude when posting on XDA.
Or suffer the consequences...
Having previously been on the MT4GS before this, I can tell you that the phone doesn't suck whatsoever. In fact, with the physical keyboard I actually prefer it to the Sensation. I do like the big screen I must admit, but the MT4GS can do everything this phone can do (and the camera pummels this one). Yes, there's a lack of support for the phone despite having the same hardware as the Sensation, but don't knock their devs. For being so few, they've accomplished quite a bit.
If you want a ROM without sense, try Virtuous Inquisition. That one's as stable as almost anything here, with some nice OC/UV features that enhance battery life. If you want Sense, Virtuous PrimaDonna or Pyr'O'Ice Sensed (I believe they're now the same thing) work just fine for DD's. There are a few bugs, but that's to be expected with almost every ROM that does not have official support. As for GB ROMS, anything on there works pretty well, but people seem to be very fond of Bulletproof.
It is awesome to have all these ROMs to choose from now, but there are still some very good good (albeit few in number) ones for the Doubleshot.
Hurrah for vorbeth
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XDA Sensation Developers Rock!!
I have to say that as a pretty new user here, the level of support from both Developers and also senior members is really fantastic. It really blows away other forums I have been part of previously.
I would also agree with the above. Coming from a Blackberry to my Sensation and Android was a big change for me. All of my answers were to be found for getting the device rooted and running a custom rom in no time.
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I would also agree with the above. Coming from a Blackberry to my Sensation and Android was a big change for me. All of my answers were to be found for getting the device rooted and running a custom rom in no time.
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Thanks for following the rules and using search.
check out the HTC HD2(Leo) section of XDA... i think that is the most dev friendly phone of all time
I'm newly registred to this forum but been looking around XDA since a few months back and never registred (really can't say why) and I must say that the atmosphere is great here on XDA, there is alot of support from devs as well as members of the site and I love it and the devs seems to know their thing. See you around the forums!
EDIT: I must agree with shee-b. All my questions already had answers and I as well got S-OFF and a custom rom running from a completly locked Hboot in no-time thanks to all the great guides and of course with a bit of help from the search function
Bad time to have a sensation, Has anyone else noticed the only consistant roms from developers now are ordroid and vorbeths ones? Haven't seen Baaad for a while and his rom says finished,Leedroid hasn't had an update since the One X. Not to seem rude but they seem to have taken the donations for a new device and buggered off :'(
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Bad time to have a sensation, Has anyone else noticed the only consistant roms from developers now are ordroid and vorbeths ones? Haven't seen Baaad for a while and his rom says finished,Leedroid hasn't had an update since the One X. Not to seem rude but they seem to have taken the donations for a new device and buggered off :'(
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Well, yes, on ine hand it does feel like it. On the other, there isn't much more to do.
I agree with whoever said that Hd2 is the best forum. Members are extremely helpful there.
I'm glad Sensation forum is becoming like that. Tou should have seen it a year ago, it was a right sh****le. Flaming, abuse, name calling.... You name it.
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I'm newly registred to this forum but been looking around XDA since a few months back and never registred (really can't say why) and I must say that the atmosphere is great here on XDA, there is alot of support from devs as well as members of the site and I love it and the devs seems to know their thing. See you around the forums!
EDIT: I must agree with shee-b. All my questions already had answers and I as well got S-OFF and a custom rom running from a completly locked Hboot in no-time thanks to all the great guides and of course with a bit of help from the search function
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I must agree. I have successfully overcome my fears of rooting. The devs have all done fantastic work, and the guides are great.
in efforts to seek new options for One SV, I found a Chinese forum with the model have many similarities (SC,SU,ST), especially with the emergence of MIUI ROM
could this be a hint for developers?
http://bbs.angeeks.com/forum-278-1.html
Wow I hope this will help us. I found out that all three devices are essentially the same. They just did some software changes, making one phone a lifestyle variant the next one a sport variant...
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I know where your coming from! Here I am with this beautiful phone (Boost k2_cl) all unlocked, rooted and S-off and not one Rom made for it. I hope the developers will come up with a badass rom for the Boost version soon. I need to flash something soon. I see Roms for the European versions but we U.S. Boost fanatics need one as well. All I ask is this: PLEASE Developers, don't forget us Boost Mobile people here!!!!! TY
I know, what you want to say, but believe me, its a pain, if you don't own the phone and can't test yourself.
Especially if you are not a developer!
We watched this in MIUI. Port it not simpler than making a Cyanogen.