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Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.
te36 said:
Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.
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OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.
I have the same model as you with the same firmware which I imported to Spain :S
OT: Which seller did you choose in ebay ? I am curious if they made you pay taxes.
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OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.
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They are actually Carrier related. I am in Australia and only received the OTA to B138 when I inserted a Hong Kong SIM.
There is a thread on here about it.
Or you can do a full download, see this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/mate-9-mha-l29c636-t3532168
Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.
Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
My orioginal problem is that i want daydream, and just sideloading vr.vrcore and vr.home was not sufficient. Store does not offer daydream only apps, and sideloaded daydream apps fail to start with an incompatibility popup (which may be possible to get around, but its just maddening).
This thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/google-daydream-vr/spoofing-daydream-compatible-device-t3534943 seems to explain how to hack up the rest of googles moronic compatibility checks, but i may just wait for a firmware upgrade that officially supports it and then worst case use FunkyHuawei to install it if Huawei does not offer it to me via upgrade.
I guess B139 is not yet introducing official daydream compatibility, or else i am sure some huawei marketing droid would have already posted that info somewhere.
te36 said:
Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
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Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.
nikooe said:
Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.
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C567 for US
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can always use FunkyHuawei to force an update.
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duraaraa said:
Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.
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Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.
asmok said:
You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.
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And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.
I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.
Lodix said:
And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.
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Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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Mostar088 said:
Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.
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i did same thing , I use AL00 in Canada will my Bell SIM, every time there is a new update, i can receive it from Hicare. I can keep up to date. Now i changed it to L29C432, dont know if i can get OTA anymore from EU region.
Mostar088 said:
Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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Thanks for the link.
i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?
te36 said:
i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?
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why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.
jc83419 said:
why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.
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I agree. Unless international version works differently.
I'm in the United States with T-Mobile and I still haven't gotten the update has anyone else gotten it and how is it?
solojazz said:
I'm in the United States with T-Mobile and I still haven't gotten the update has anyone else gotten it and how is it?
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If you are using the Mate 9 us variant the last update was L29C567B183 it came on the 23 of march
solojazz said:
I'm in the United States with T-Mobile and I still haven't gotten the update has anyone else gotten it and how is it?
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Still waiting... Trinidad
Still waiting in Malaysia.
The lack of manufacturer development on Huawei is horrendous and I'm coming from LG G2, G3 & V10. **** has got me thinking maybe I should have gone for the O+3T,
zayidhs said:
Still waiting in Malaysia.
The lack of manufacturer development on Huawei is horrendous and I'm coming from LG G2, G3 & V10. **** has got me thinking maybe I should have gone for the O+3T,
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Nothing in the UAE either. The service center that has my phone claims to have 'updated' it. Will let you know if they really did so on Saturday.
masroorj said:
Nothing in the UAE either. The service center that has my phone claims to have 'updated' it. Will let you know if they really did so on Saturday.
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Thanks, but is your phone C636 in the UAE?
This update made low light camera worse
solojazz said:
Thanks, but is your phone C636 in the UAE?
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Dont have my phone with me so cant check. Will let you know tomorrow.
EDIT - Never mind, I'm clearly having a massive brain blockage at the moment. Doubt my phone is the US variant, most probably the European variant. Will check anyways and let you know. Apologies for the confusion.
masroorj said:
Dont have my phone with me so cant check. Will let you know tomorrow.
EDIT - Never mind, I'm clearly having a massive brain blockage at the moment. Doubt my phone is the US variant, most probably the European variant. Will check anyways and let you know. Apologies for the confusion.
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That's fine I'm not asking about the US variant. In the title I state C636 which is Asia if I recall correctly.
Using C636 in Singapore.
Got the update a week ago.
Some people here also did not receive it yet.
So I guess, they are rolling in batches.
It took around 1 week for me to get them from the time I've read about someone getting the B172 update.
I've noticed a slight battery improvement from B158. Music controls from spotify now works on the locksreen.
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That's fine I'm not asking about the US variant. In the title I state C636 which is Asia if I recall correctly.
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Mine is not the C636. Its the C185.
Service center returned the unit, wiped clean with a B158 build. So much ado about nothing there.
AUS still stuck at 158
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you can get 181 via firmware finder, if you want to get the latest now..
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you can get 181 via firmware finder, if you want to get the latest now..
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is the C432B181?
whats the difference between that and the C636B172?
here are the lastest firmwares and changelogs..
http://hwmt.ru/oth/HWFF/info/view.php?find_model=lon
Received it on the day of the announcement here in Malaysia which is really surprising given that there normally is a lag in receiving updates here.
Tried with firmware finder tonight
Downloaded full update.... But got an "unauthorized update" error when trying to install
So the wait continues
androFRUST said:
Received it on the day of the announcement here in Malaysia which is really surprising given that there normally is a lag in receiving updates here.
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I'm in Malaysia using Maxis but I haven't had the update yet
solojazz said:
That's fine I'm not asking about the US variant. In the title I state C636 which is Asia if I recall correctly.
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Just got 172 OTA.
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Just got 172 OTA.
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I still don't
Hi there,
Does any of you know a safe way ( online seller ) to import a Note 20 Ultra 5G ( snapdragon ) to the Netherlands. And if there's a "safe way" to do this would I run into trouble on the Dutch cellular network bands?
I'm from Belgium. I ordered the Note20 snapdragon from t-dimension. Received it 9days later without any additional import taxes. Phone works well on the Belgian bands.
So I guess NL is gonna be fine as well.
I'm in the UK and also bought from T-Dimension. This was my first purchase with them and everything went to plan, but it took nine calendar days from order on Monday to receipt on Wednesday the following week. Two days of delay were due to security checks, for me to provide proof of ID and address. Good price, even better now, and everything sealed and correct.
In the UK we have four primary network providers. Two of the networks make use of Band 32, which the N9860 does not include. It's a supplementary band and its omission is not critical, especially as the band does not appear to be deployed anywhere near me, rather in central London while I'm on the outskirts and don't venture into town.
Mostly everything works including Google Pay, VoLTE and VoWiFi. Garmin Pay expects a Hong Kong payment card to be registered, so that's effectively useless in Europe, but no consequence since Google Pay works and that's what I've used in the past.
Firmware updates are a bit behind schedule. Even late in November the phone only has October security updates. Not a showstopper, but perhaps a hint of limited priority for this model.
The big concern, if it matters to you, might be 5G support. At face value, judging from the band's in the spec, you would imagine 5G to be no problem. Many have found the Three network to be well supported by the phone in the UK, including me. Vodafone 5G looks a bit sketchy in my limited testing. I've seen the 5G symbol appear on the phone, but nPerf did not identify a 5G service from Vodafone, whereas it did for Three. Regarding 5G on EE I have only ever seen remarks that it does not work. I have seen no comments about 5G on O2 (well, maybe one, and it was a "No" I think).
You'll have to do your own research on bands for the Netherlands and see if the match is good enough for you.
destz0r said:
I'm from Belgium. I bought the Note20 snapdragon from t-dimension. Received it a week later without any additional import taxes. Phone works well on the Belgian bands.
So I guess NL is gonna be fine as well.
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One quick question, does the SM-N986O support Dutch language?
patensas said:
One quick question, does the SM-N986O support Dutch language?
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Yup, dutch language works perfectly, even google assistant in dutch. havent had any issues
destz0r said:
Yup, dutch language works perfectly, even google assistant in dutch. havent had any issues
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Thanks for your reply, highly appreciated.
Did you but the SM-N986O?
patensas said:
Thanks for your reply, highly appreciated.
Did you but the SM-N986O?
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I bought the N9810 (Note20 5G), not the Ultra
destz0r said:
I bought the N9810 (Note20 5G), not the Ultra
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Thanks again, so the O variant should be the way to go. Time to take the dive and order it.
How long did it take to arrive to Europe? The price is excellent it's actually 200 eur cheaper than exynos version here
jirka607 said:
How long did it take to arrive to Europe? The price is excellent it's actually 200 eur cheaper than exynos version here
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I received it like 9 days after ordering
destz0r said:
I received it like 9 days after ordering
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Did you order from AU or DE store it's cheaper on AU store
jirka607 said:
Did you order from AU or DE store it's cheaper on AU store
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from their DE website
OK ordering Bronze 256GB 9860 model today...the price is unbeatable
Any way to get rcs working on android 11 messages?
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Any way to get rcs working on android 11 messages?
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Hi there,
Which country are you in? You need to be in one of those to enjoy RCS:
Singapore, Portugal, Argentina, Pakistan, Poland, Turkey, UK, US, Spain and France.
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Hi there,
Which country are you in? You need to be in one of those to enjoy RCS:
Singapore, Portugal, Argentina, Pakistan, Poland, Turkey, UK, US, Spain and France.
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Us I had it before on this device but I've recently had to use msm tool are unbrick it and now I'm on stock everything and rcs isn't working
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Us I had it before on this device but I've recently had to use msm tool are unbrick it and now I'm on stock everything and rcs isn't working
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This feature is still rolling out to those countries, idk if you're in one of them, but not everyone has RCS there (except France and UK, the roll out is complete now).
So you were lucky to have it, and since you modified your device, the google message's app data was flushed, and this time you were not so lucky with rcs.
That's my theory. But hopefully someday RCS will knock on your door, said that he missed you and knows that you missed him, and you'll be together for the rest of you live. Don't be a fool a break up again, you'll regret it like right now.
I have both apps installed and working on my phone but I am not able to search/install any of them from the Play Store. Are they not available in India?
same problem for me. Looks like Samsung Pay is blocked
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I have both apps installed and working on my phone but I am not able to search/install any of them from the Play Store. Are they not available in India?
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Able to make Spay work by changing region to MEA
avirendra said:
Able to make Spay work by changing region to MEA
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Could you kindly share the steps?
avirendra said:
Able to make Spay work by changing region to MEA
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I think yours is LTE. Mine is BT. Not sure if the method works for that yet.
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I think yours is LTE. Mine is BT. Not sure if the method works for that yet.
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Yes. Mine is LTE
term-x said:
I think yours is LTE. Mine is BT. Not sure if the method works for that yet.
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hi, mine is BT also, have ypu got this probelm solved?
Not yet mate, it's extremely frustrating when companies and government rules make a mess of things! I hope some creative minds can get this to work. I'm ready to experiment on my watch if anyone wants to try something but doesn't have the watch handy too.
PS: I've a connection to 1984 too
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hi, mine is BT also, have ypu got this probelm solved?
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You can use Google Pay to make purchases with your Wear OS smartwatch in:
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