✪KERNEL COMPARISON✪ [No Name Kernel] vs [Black Box] vs [Kirks-Kernel] - Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

All three kernel are really good but whats your opinion, also state which rom do you use.
Rating based on-
>Battery life
>Performance
>Internet speeds
>Overall stabilty
State other issues that you faced.
Link to Kernel OP:
BlackBox: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re.../kernel-blackbox-kernel-r1-0-darkest-t3798826
NoName: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/kernel-noname-kernel-v1-0-t3799747
Kirks-Kernel:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/kernel-kirks-kernel-t3800771
Don't forget to Thank the devs ?

Reserved

Its disgusting that sb even tried to compare other devs work. You should feel ashamed!

alreadyregistered said:
Its disgusting that sb even tried to compare other devs work. You should feel ashamed!
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I understand why this may upset you, he/she could have used better words to make this thread.
I do think it is a valid thread if people were to make a rundown of features and bugs offered by the kernels. We also compare different Roms and their features.
Which brings me to another issue, we have 3 custom kernels not 2...

alreadyregistered said:
Its disgusting that sb even tried to compare other devs work. You should feel ashamed!
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Just how do people get offended off of this?
I'm done bruh ??

Blowolf said:
Just how do people get offended off of this?
I'm done bruh
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Do sth productive. We will judge and you'll see.

alreadyregistered said:
Do sth productive. We will judge and you'll see.
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Trying to help people chose right stuff for themselves, If you're offended by that then I'm not sure if you should judge

Blowolf said:
Trying to help people chose right stuff for themselves, If you're offended by that then I'm not sure if you should judge
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You're new here (or at least account is fresh). Read some "newbies" tutorials about unwritten rules on xda.

alreadyregistered said:
You're new here (or at least account is fresh). Read some "newbies" tutorials about unwritten rules on xda.
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Been here a long time, just don't bother posting anything.
Good for you though shining you senior member badge here and there

Blowolf said:
Been here a long time, just don't bother posting anything.
Good for you though shining you senior member badge here and there
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Oh.. silly summer child.

alreadyregistered said:
Oh.. silly summer child.
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Sure kid

Good topic.not evryone have time to test all the kernel

Blowolf said:
Sure kid
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Can we all focus on the op title now?

I expected that you tested the kernels and posted some results. But boy was I wrong...

You know, there's nothing wrong with discussing different developers work, respectfully, and talking about pros and cons, outside of development threads of course, but ranking and rating them is a bit much.
Openly rating developers work is pretty disrespectful to the hard working members who actually contribute work to this site, so others can make their phones kewl. This site was created for developers and it isn't Amazon, so please keep ratings to selling and consumer report sites. Developers contribute here for fun and for free, and don't need their work rated by anyone here. Flash things and see what YOU like, it's the least you can do after getting all this cool free stuff on xda.
Cool? Thread closed. :good:

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CM7/AOSP/ICS Discussion Thread.

Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Lol
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Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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Capable of doing what, exactly?
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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sgs2 fourm that way bra <<<
He said sgs4G
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theexel said:
Hey there everyone.
I'm from the Vibrant section, and I have some questions for you Galaxy S 4G users, please do know I searched around, but I thought it'd be best to have all the information anyone had on this particular topic all in one thread, so if anyone feels this is useless, feel free to delete it, I'm just trying to gain some knowledge. My girlfriend has a GS4G, and although the devs have done a great job modding Samsung's ROMs.. they don't compare to AOSP ROMs in my opinion.
Now, for the questions.
1. Why is it we can't get a working kernel to boot for the GS4G? (Someone please do explain in detail.)
2. How far has someone gone/gotten? (I know krylon handed the work to someone, but I don't think they've reported back?)
And please, no stupid answers. This is pure discussion. If a kernel dev is what we need, I could try to find one that's willing to work with me, but we'd need testers and such.
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We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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bhundven said:
We are already working on this now. Read through my kernel thread. I have specific milestones to getting cm7 on our phone. I will not skip steps to get to cm7 sooner, compromising stability and functionality. If you want to help, please pm me.
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Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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haha bh will make you eat your words
chris31jct said:
For real this thread again!? I'm going to kill myself. Can't bear it.
Wait... better idea! Lets flame the OP!
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Alright, flame me.. because I'm definitely doing something wrong. I'm in no way demanding an ETA or even demanding anyone to start working on this, I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
Sent from me
Surfacet said:
From what I heard and read around, you guys don't have any devs thats capable of doing that.
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hahah XXDDD
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I had life happen
I see the usual knee scuffs and bruises hit this thread too. I really wish people wouldn't post if doesn't help move the thread forward.
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Anyways... back on topic... :clears throat:
theexel said:
Yep, just checked your replies on Rootz Wiki, sorry, I didn't notice that earlier.
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It's ok. I've responded to a few of these threads. It's surprising how many people don't click 'search' and search for 'cm7' or 'cyanogenmod'. I also don't expect people to read both rootz and xda. So if you read my op on the kernel thread, I have a "Plans" section (on both forums!).
theexel said:
But like I said, this thread isn't meant to rush anyone or say someone can't do something, simply for discussion and information. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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If you want to help, pm me.
Starting threads like these without searching only causes trolling and thread thrash (a lot of useless threads in the forum that blur the current state).
When you read what I'm saying, imagine a skinny geek with a deep helpful-relaxed voice... and a smile
A lot of people take me the wrong way. I'm a geek. I read and write code. I don't like wasting my time making you feel all warm and fuzzy.
itzik2sh said:
Guys, being cynical and trolling won't get us anywhere, and tell you the truth, it's childish and starting to bore.
The guy said he wanted a technical status summary and specifically said he wants to help.
In this case, i think we do need to maintain a thread of work chords and specify the barriers.
I thank every new dev with a will to help.
I think he deserves a different attitude than a noob, especially if we don't want to scare all devs from here.
That's my opinion anyway.
Sent from me
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This.
10 Char.
Lets keep this thread going I am also wondering how come there is so little development here but what developers we have are dedicated!
We have great developers that work hard on cm. The sgs 4g is the problem of not having it, freaking sammy with their experiments. i really enjoy their masterpieces(devs). Op you just have to have some patience, cm will come to us i believe in our devs.
theexel said:
I simply wanted to group the information anyone knows so we could help each other.. you know.. kind of what a community does?
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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Before flaming and insulting did you notice the date on the first post?
Personally I think the person that cast the raise dead spell should be getting beat with the flame bat.
I swear sometimes people are too eager to flame somebody. Its like they had a bad day come to xda to post behind a anonymous screen name and then walk away feeling better. But that is just me, Im sure my observation is wrong.
mike-y said:
Then why didn't you group all the information that is already available in the 50 other threads about CM7 into this one?
if you really wanted to do that, you could have made your OP a summary with bullet points of the details of everything that was already discussed, and then updated it with new information that comes along.
did you even search at all??
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First of all, this has never been my primary device. I have never owned this device. I used to own the Samsung Vibrant, now I own a Nexus S. My girlfriend owned a Galaxy S 4G, and was using her phone to try to bring something new to you guys. (First ICS theme for this device ring a bell?) It's not my job to group 50 other threads about CM7 into this one. That's not what a community is. I am in no way a recognized developer, I know my stuff, but I have a long way to go. But it's people like you that make devs want to leave and stop posting their stuff. You swear people have time to do everything. And indeed that was my intention, but I wasn't going to pull useless information from other threads that members have posted, that are often inaccurate. This thread was mostly meant for devs, that could actually help out, and working together.
In other news, I finally have some time to mess around with stuff, might look into more themes or something, but I lack a device to work on, so I guess if some people would like to help (testing, etc.) I'd be glad to push things out from time to time.

[Q] What's the natural "next phone"?

I saw the new Galaxy Nexus on the Google Store; how does this compare to the Skyrocket? I've just been thinking what phone I will want to upgrade to next. Should I wait for the Galaxy S3? I'm bad at keeping up with phones and was just wondering what the natural next upgrade from a Skyrocket will be. I've found I don't particularly like the large size of the phone, it's low resolution, and especially the Samsung bloatware (I'm using a Custom ROM so I don't have to worry about it anymore but I still don't like it being on there to begin with).
Perhaps you could join this conversation in one of the 2-3 already existing threads, instead of everyone making new ones every 10 minutes.
xcrazydx said:
Perhaps you could join this conversation in one of the 2-3 already existing threads, instead of everyone making new ones every 10 minutes.
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ur such an animal
xcrazydx said:
Perhaps you could join this conversation in one of the 2-3 already existing threads, instead of everyone making new ones every 10 minutes.
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You could have posted a link.
Or given me your opinion.
Or you could just stop being a smug prick. I was clear I didn't know what I was doing or even what to look for in regards to this discussion.
mrmonkey3319 said:
You could have posted a link.
Or given me your opinion.
Or you could just stop being a smug prick. I was clear I didn't know what I was doing or even what to look for in regards to this discussion.
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Don't mine x, he's usually very helpful. He gets grumpy in his cage though when he isn't fed.
As a new user the best advice I can give u is to search before posting anything new in a thread, whether it be for discussions purposes, or posing a question. Searching first is rule 1 of xda, which u agreed to when u signed up
mrmonkey3319 said:
You could have posted a link.
Or given me your opinion.
Or you could just stop being a smug prick. I was clear I didn't know what I was doing or even what to look for in regards to this discussion.
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Here you go, bud.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617041
icenight89 said:
Don't mine x, he's usually very helpful. He gets grumpy in his cage though when he isn't fed.
As a new user the best advice I can give u is to search before posting anything new in a thread, whether it be for discussions purposes, or posing a question. Searching first is rule 1 of xda, which u agreed to when u signed up
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Can we please all take a chill pill? This makes me want to just leave. XDA is turning into Reddit nowadays.
Must...not...troll....must.............not..........troll...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhu
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icenight89 said:
Don't mine x, he's usually very helpful. He gets grumpy in his cage though when he isn't fed.
As a new user the best advice I can give u is to search before posting anything new in a thread, whether it be for discussions purposes, or posing a question. Searching first is rule 1 of xda, which u agreed to when u signed up
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I know to search, I read the rules. I didn't know what to search for because my question is a bit more tailored. It's not just Galaxy Nexus vs. Skyrocket. But anyways... yeah...
M0D1441 said:
Can we please all take a chill pill? This makes me want to just leave. XDA is turning into Reddit nowadays.
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X and i are good friends, believe me he doesn't mind a bit of ball busting... as for the rest, any senior member will vouch I'm helpful, u should know that MOD. I only kindly gave some advice.
mrmonkey3319 said:
I know to search, I read the rules. I didn't know what to search for because my question is a bit more tailored. It's not just Galaxy Nexus vs. Skyrocket. But anyways... yeah...
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To be fair, your question isn't really tailored, that thread covers it. Also, that link that x posted goes to a thread that was active on the first page... just sayin
icenight89 said:
X and i are good friends, believe me he doesn't mind a bit of ball busting... as for the rest, any senior member will vouch I'm helpful, u should know that MOD. I only kindly gave some advice.
To be fair, your question isn't really tailored, that thread covers it. Also, that link that x posted goes to a thread that was active on the first page... just sayin
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My bad..meant to quote Mr. UrASmug Pirk not you, trust me ice, nothing on you
Sent via 700MHz Radiation
M0D1441 said:
My bad..meant to quote Mr. UrASmug Pirk not you, trust me ice, nothing on you
Sent via 700MHz Radiation
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Thnx bud, its nice when the skyrocket veterans stick together: D
icenight89 said:
X and i are good friends, believe me he doesn't mind a bit of ball busting... as for the rest, any senior member will vouch I'm helpful, u should know that MOD. I only kindly gave some advice.
To be fair, your question isn't really tailored, that thread covers it. Also, that link that x posted goes to a thread that was active on the first page... just sayin
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Word.
So, you all squared away Monkey dude?

jelly bean rom based from aosp?

Hi guys just wondering if anyone is working on a jellybean rom for nexus s based on the source?(AOSP)?
Would be great to know and maybe I can help
Regards,
Richard
Can't you ****ing read.
g1user101 said:
Can't you ****ing read.
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READ FROM WHAT.
I put in the title and no similar threads came up. MAY BE THE NEW THEME ERROR
You also posted a question in the DEVELOPMENT forum.
Epic fail.
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There are 2 ports out there already.
NYYFan325 said:
You also posted a question in the DEVELOPMENT forum.
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May i ask where it should be? Coz i thought since i was asking if anyone was and if someone was i was going to join them and give help, i thought it wwould be developmet.
g1user101 said:
There are 2 ports out there already.
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They are not based on aosp, they are based off the sdk but with a few fixes from aosp
Word. This question has NOT been answered, nobody has put up a development thread for an AOSP based rom. While this is not the right place to ask the question, it is definitely a valid one.
Quit giving the man Sh*t. He made a mistake. Everyone settle down. We're a community not a bar brawl.
Solarian said:
Word. This question has NOT been answered, nobody has put up a development thread for an AOSP based rom. While this is not the right place to ask the question, it is definitely a valid one.
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This is NOT a valid question. It requires a ridiculous level of obliviousness to think that you'd be the only person to think that porting AOSP JB would be a good idea. Of course people are working on it. Jeez, it's like people are getting less intelligent with each passing day.
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This is NOT a valid question. It requires a ridiculous level of obliviousness to think that you'd be the only person to think that porting AOSP JB would be a good idea. Of course people are working on it. Jeez, it's like people are getting less intelligent with each passing day.
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Yea then i asked so i can help. So i was asking about progress and what help was needed with porting. And NO i cant tell what people are up to. Of course im not psychic like u
063_XOBX said:
This is NOT a valid question. It requires a ridiculous level of obliviousness to think that you'd be the only person to think that porting AOSP JB would be a good idea. Of course people are working on it. Jeez, it's like people are getting less intelligent with each passing day.
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hahahhahahahahhahahahah, im the king of the world from titanic :laugh:
Andrew421 said:
Quit giving the man Sh*t. He made a mistake. Everyone settle down. We're a community not a bar brawl.
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Throwing in the first punch.... *punch*
It's true that its a valid question but at the same time this is placed in the wrong thread. Maybe Q&A would be a better place.. so any admin please move this.
As for your question... it has been answered by previous replies.
Can someone tell me who the Mod for this forum is? I have seen way too many pointless threads being started and would like to report them.
Just click on report. They will get it. You don't have to personally contact a mod
albundy2010 said:
Just click on report. They will get it. You don't have to personally contact a mod
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Sorry mate, I'm using the app. *sigh*
troll thread..
Really guys? Thread closed and moved.

This would be sweet! ***NVM

I think that it would be cool if we had a poll thread with every rom listed so we can have an idea of the most popular Roms. I know when I am new to a phone I want to know the top rated roms to save time flashing. What do you guys think? Just a poll with every Rom and just let people vote on their favorites.
EDIT**** this is NOT for me I am extremely satisfied with Viper and JellyBam and I don't need this, It was just to help other but it looks like no one wants to and wants everyone to find it out on their own so i retract this idea
Re: This would be sweet!
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I think that it would be cool if we had a poll thread with every rom listed so we can have an idea of the most popular Roms. I know when I am new to a phone I want to know the top rated roms to save time flashing. What do you guys think? Just a poll with every Rom and just let people vote on their favorites.
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No.
RollTribe said:
No.
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why wouldn't you like it?
Re: This would be sweet!
We sort of all ready got it, the thread read count. If it's popular people are reading about it.
Screwed by Google. Canceled ICS upgrade on my Moto Photon. No Wow for us.
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No.
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rbeavers said:
We sort of all ready got it, the thread read count. If it's popular people are reading about it.
Screwed by Google. Canceled ICS upgrade on my Moto Photon. No Wow for us.
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not always, just means that the thread got people's attention. I view a lot of Rom's thread a lot but I haven't downloaded it just read what people were saying
Re: This would be sweet!
Just because there's a thing on XDA about not having best ROM threads and this would be like the ultimate best ROM thread. It would be against the rules, that's why I said what I did.
been done before anyways and the thread got buried.
*Poll* 4.0.4 Sense Roms
Re: This would be sweet!
So you want a poll to show you what ROMs people are running so you can run the ROM everyone is? Wanna be with all the cool kids I guess?
You know how everyone else did it? They tried them all, and I suggest you do the same
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RollTribe said:
Just because there's a thing on XDA about not having best ROM threads and this would be like the ultimate best ROM thread. It would be against the rules, that's why I said what I did.
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lol ok if you only said that to begin with it would have been resolved. Its ok, guess noobs have to find out the hard way
superchilpil said:
So you want a poll to show you what ROMs people are running so you can run the ROM everyone is? Wanna be with all the cool kids I guess?
You know how everyone else did it? They tried them all, and I suggest you do the same
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it is not for me... I have tried all the main ones, its for new people. I don't care either way I just thought it would be nice if you just got your phone. But if you didn't read my post I guess you didn't see that
I love my Viper, or for a change up I got Jellybam and I couldn't be happier
you Need to find the best ROM for you self.
when the ROM makes you happy, then it's the best for you.
Ghostrider said:
you Need to find the best ROM for you self.
when the ROM makes you happy, then it's the best for you.
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man... does anyone read my post before commenting I already have found the best, its for others. I love Viper and I am very satisfied.
adding a poll of all active roms would help bring light to some under rated roms as long as it wasn't perceived as a best rom poll which would be very difficult as it most likely would turn into one.
It's against the rules, and there are good reasons why that is the case.
Such threads often lead to debates about "best roms," which creates unnecessary drama.
They also annoy the devs, and can lead to hurt feelings.
The devs almost unanimously do not like them, and if you haven't gathered from the name of this site, this is a developer forum.
This thread will be locked like the 500 others like it before this.
Ghostrider said:
you Need to find the best ROM for you self.
when the ROM makes you happy, then it's the best for you.
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iElvis said:
It's against the rules, and there are good reasons why that is the case.
Such threads often lead to debates about "best roms," which creates unnecessary drama.
They also annoy the devs, and can lead to hurt feelings.
The devs almost unanimously do not like them, and if you haven't gathered from the name of this site, this is a developer forum.
This thread will be locked like the 500 others like it before this.
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well I now know that so this one can be locked as well at least it solved my curiosity
joshuadjohnson22 said:
it is not for me... I have tried all the main ones, its for new people. I don't care either way I just thought it would be nice if you just got your phone. But if you didn't read my post I guess you didn't see that
I love my Viper, or for a change up I got Jellybam and I couldn't be happier
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Who cares who its for? Its still against the rules.
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Joshua I dint think you're getting the main reason of the rule..it all kinda comes down to common courtesy..the devs aren't paid to dev nor do they have to share their work with us... You as the user can at the least say thanks to them..best Rom or most popular threads has a chance of putting certain rom devs down...each rom is great I've tried almost every one in this forum
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Joshua I dint think you're getting the main reason of the rule..it all kinda comes down to common courtesy..the devs aren't paid to dev nor do they have to share their work with us... You as the user can at the least say thanks to them..best Rom or most popular threads has a chance of putting certain rom devs down...each rom is great I've tried almost every one in this forum
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No i understand... We have the best devs and I don't want to cause anything that would hurt or start fights. I'm perfectly fine with it. I never thought of that before
joshuadjohnson22 said:
No i understand... We have the best devs and I don't want to cause anything that would hurt or start fights. I'm perfectly fine with it. I never thought of that before
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Okay guys, he got the message!
Okay then ......
Closed
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[Q] What is the preferred ROM for this device?

Just bought the tablet and I'd love some feedback on ROM experiences, as well as an overall idea of where your hearts lie on this matter.
logswithmoss said:
Just bought the tablet and I'd love some feedback on ROM experiences, as well as an overall idea of where your hearts lie on this matter.
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This question is kind of disrespectful for the devs. Basically, to each his own. Read the thread of every ROM you are interested in and see what people who use it say. Then try for yourself and decide.
atomomega said:
This question is kind of disrespectful for the devs. Basically, to each his own. Read the thread of every ROM you are interested in and see what people who use it say. Then try for yourself and decide.
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LOL the devs wouldn't find it disrespectful that people prefer one ROM over another.
atomomega said:
This question is kind of disrespectful for the devs. Basically, to each his own. Read the thread of every ROM you are interested in and see what people who use it say. Then try for yourself and decide.
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logswithmoss said:
LOL the devs wouldn't find it disrespectful that people prefer one ROM over another.
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As a up and coming dev I have to agree with @logswithmoss .....
The reason is that when there are options and you pick our rom then it shows us that you like what we have done to it .....
But the OP did not even included our rom base on omni , zombi-pop ...
Thx Josh
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lj50036 said:
As a up and coming dev I have to agree with @logswithmoss .....
The reason is that when there are options and you pick our rom then it shows us that you like what we have done to it .....
But the OP did not even included our rom base on omni , zombi-pop ...
Thx Josh
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When I see a vote box, I just have to vote. Not sure why. lol
No disrespect to any of the devs! You all do an awesome job! We appreciate your hard work. I think logswithmoss is right. It could be used as a gauge as to what people (overall) like in their ROM but that doesn't mean other don't like the ones that were not voted highly.
To me, any Dev that spends their own time to contribute to the ROM for the masses, is a good dev!

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