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Are you curious about how Gorilla Glass 3 holds up against drops? Here is the answer!
The Galaxy S4 did pretty well with minimal body damage considering the fact that it has a large screen but the Glass still cracked on a face-first drop.
It also shows improvement over the S3 which has the Gorilla Glass 2.
Better than the HTC One whose Aluminium speaker grill broke off easily in a drop test.
Aluminum grills falling off isn't the worst, the worst part are the dents imo.
tuxonhtc said:
Aluminum grills falling off isn't the worst, the worst part are the dents imo.
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Dents are bearable. But the speaker grill which completely breaks off and can't be fixed easily is more annoying.
Ultimately what this test and pretty much every other drop test with these flagship phones highlights most is that these phones, as good as the build quality gets on any of them, are still extremely vulnerable to drops and falls. That's why I use a TPU, it just makes sense. For $5-10 you get almost total invulnerability to these situations that end up with busted displays and dented edges. Yeah, you give up appearance (although there's some really cool looking cases to be found), but if even one time the case saves your ass, it's worth it. No sitting around waiting for the company to cover your warranty, and no paying hundreds' of dollars when your warranty ends and you get a busted phone.
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Dents are bearable. But the speaker grill which completely breaks off and can't be fixed easily is more annoying.
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You could fix it back in though, surely? Are they glued in or screwed in?
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You could fix it back in though, surely? Are they glued in or screwed in?
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It is unibody. It is not screwed or glued. It is a part of the back.
Hi all,
I don't really want to use the screen protector and I thought I'd ask the question about the glass that the screen is made of.
I understand that it is not Gorilla Glass, and that it does not have the plastic 'shatter protection' layer on it - so how scratch resistant is it if I don't use the protector that came with the phone?
There doesn't seem to be a test online yet, and not much being said about this specific. And no, I don't want to try it out on my phone and report back!!
What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
Thanks guys.
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Screens do not scratch themselves... Just saying.
Mortus17 said:
I am testing one right now and it has a loooong scratch after ONE day of using and I was carrying it in my jacket pocket so no keys or sharp objects
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Wow - this guy's phone must be screwed then:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/See-...with-a-real-knife-on-a-Sony-Xperia-Z3_id61723
Although perhaps the screen only gets scratched if you *don't* use a sharp object?
Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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Well, have the phone for about 2 weeks and always put it in my pocket (without keys or money/coins) and seems fine here...
Of course there will also be those who somehow get scratches on it or swear by a screenprotector, but as I never seem to be able to get those on properly without any bubbles I'm not a big fan. Might try in the near future anyway, but seems to do fine without it so far
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You could try a tempered glass screen protector i never had that problem with them. and they feel better then plastic screen protectors.
I'd agree with the tempered glass protectors, I haven't gotten dust under one yet, and if you do, just take it off, get the dust off, and re apply. They're much much better than any normal protector and a lot lot easier to apply and re-position if you get it wrong.
Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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Use Nillkin tempered glass and you won't even see you have something on your screen.
I'm using that SP on Z1 and Z2 and it's perfect.
It's on Z1 for almost a year and it's great...
You have to apply it careful and precise and it'll be awesome.
As I said, it's on my Z1 for almost a year and on Z2 for 4-5 months and there's no a single scratch on them.
And yeah...it's incredibly easy to apply it because it's glass/plastic.
It's not thin like plain SP, so there's no way you could have air bubbles under it.
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I might have to give that a go; just tried putting on 5 plastic protectors but they all failed my zero-dust policy!
Do not overestimate the strength of the screen. It scratches incredibly easily. You'd best keep it safe. Many screen protectors are almost 100% transparent nowadays anyway.
The screen on the front of my Z3 has been fine without a screen protector but the back got a scratch from merely sliding across a table a few centimeters. Not very noticeable but makes me wonder if the front and back are different types of glass?
Having never gotten a scratch on any of my previous phones, personally I think the Z3 glass is slightly on the soft side as I've already got a few tiny scratches on it, which is surprising.
I think it's time to invest in a Tempered Glass screen protector, PET film feels like crap.
Ummm...
Well, I'm pretty sure that in most of cases that won't happen, but...
https://www.google.com/search?q=self+crack+screen
Just quoting...
I have to agree with the glass being very soft, don't understand how I've gotten these scratches on the front and back. Been super careful and didn't have anything in my pockets. Have 2 nice ones on the front and a couple on the back from putting it in and taking it out of my empty pockets.
How easy is the glass to replace on these phones btw, I think the back is very easy but anyone know about the front? Can the glass be replaced without getting a whole new screen and digitizer?
Screen protectors are a MUST!
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What do we know? Anyone scratched theirs yet, if so how?
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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Well I wouldn't say a must... Quality varies per each batch of glass for their phones. Remember Sony uses their own screen glass technology so if you have a big scratch and don't know why its a probable quality control issue. I've had my Z3 for about 3 months now naked both sides. Not even a micro scratch I could see on the screen and that goes for my Z3 Tablet Compact too. You should be able to keep this phone naked if you be careful (duh) like not putting you phone with sharp objects like keys and maybe cleaning out your pockets once in a while... If a freak accident happens well those always suck but there's no way to stop that other than insuring your phone. Its probably the reason HTC's "Uh-Oh!" service has been getting the talk lately.
I believe on Sony's Z3 Compact forum it was mentioned that they use either GG3 or Dragontrail X, I'm guessing same for the Z3 you may get one or the other though GG3 is slightly more scratch resistant according to tests.
I used some Decal Skin covers which looked good but eventually started to peel off so i removed them and my Z3 was "naked" for about 10 days until the tempered screen and back protector arrived. In that time I have a huge mysterious scratch on the back on the device and also a smaller one! I could not believe it i actually thought it was a hair that was stuck to it, this big long windy scratch....
The weird thing is i haven't really left the house through studying for exams..... very strange.
Its also incredibly slippy "naked" so that's another consideration you need to make.
I would definately go for the tempered glass, i got mine for £4 from Amazon (front and back) and they're awesome, it also makes the screen kinda "jump out" and colours look great.
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Let me start my introducing myself to the Android community. The Z3 is my first Android after iPhone 1,3,4 & 4S. I carried my 4S in my pocket without a screen protector for 3+ years and it still looks flawless. I'm extremely careful with my phones but that is still astonishing to me. My very first day with my Z3 I somehow put a nasty scratch right across the front of the display (not a small one either, it's deep). It was in my pocket all by itself. After I noticed the horrific damage I had done to my brand new $600 phone I almost puked. I literally turn my pockets inside out looking for what may have done the damage. It must've been one of those pesky lint pieces. Since then, the Z3 has gone back in the box in the closet until my screen protector arrives. Needless to say, SCREEN PROTECTORS ARE A MUST for this phone.
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In your case, I don't think it's a scratch but a screen crack! Take a look closer under direct sunlight to be fixed
Hi everyone,
The Essential company claims that the phone is very drop and scratch resistant thanks to the premium materials used in the phone, but sadly there are no official Essential drop tests available anywhere which is mainly due to all the problems Essential seems to be having with supplies and rolling out their first manufactured devices. There are also some reports surfacing from the very early adopters of the phone of some scuffs and scratches which never go beyond a mere mention.
I thought I would start this thread where people who have the phone can report about how the phone handles inadvertent drops and scratches and scuffs to the screen and the ceramic back. When posting, please also include a little bit of explanation as to how it happened and if possible a picture of the supposed damages to the phone.
Cheers.
dropped mine twice. 2 nicks in screen, but ceramic and titanium are fine.
This also came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QxIvm7T90
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This also came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QxIvm7T90
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I watched the video. Mous of 7 or better on the ceramic. The finish in the titanium can be damaged but noting like aluminum.
Forget about bending the phone. The phone is pretty tough. A case will protect th cosmetics.
https://www.cnet.com/videos/we-destroyed-the-essential-phone/
Seems like this will be a very durable device.
Ya for what its worth it is way way way better than any aluminum phone would do. This they got right but its the software and camera that hold it back
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Ya for what its worth it is way way way better than any aluminum phone would do. This they got right but its the software and camera that hold it back
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My only complaint is the camera software.
Other than that, I don't have any issues.
I would like a case, but only for cosmetics.
Know what really does it for me? Stock Android is a bit too stock also. I have gotten really used to how the pixel works and really like it with all it's slight tweaks to stock.
The cameras sensors are still too small to be on the level of the the other flagships too. Not only software. The Google camera does pretty well though
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Know what really does it for me? Stock Android is a bit too stock also. I have gotten really used to how the pixel works and really like it with all it's slight tweaks to stock.
The cameras sensors are still too small to be on the level of the the other flagships too. Not only software. The Google camera does pretty well though
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I use Nova, so Android is never really stock for me.
I use Nova Launcher because I can restore my device layout on any device.
As far as the camera, I'm not that concerned about the quality.
For me it's a case of not having a better camera and just getting the picture is important.
If I really wanted a good photo, I'd use one of my"real" cameras.
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I use Nova, so Android is never really stock for me.
I use Nova Launcher because I can restore my device layout on any device.
As far as the camera, I'm not that concerned about the quality.
For me it's a case of not having a better camera and just getting the picture is important.
If I really wanted a good photo, I'd use one of my"real" cameras.
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Happy you like it man! It's not for everyone for sure. I thought it was my dream phone but for me... It's just not their yet. The next one maybe and still super happy with what they were able to make!
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I've dropped this phone in 1 week more than I've dropped my Pixel XL in the past 3 months, just because of how slippery the little bugger is. No damage as a result of dropping it, though.
I do have some very light scratches on the ceramic back, from sliding across my desk or countertop at home, which I was *not* expecting. Both the top, by the mod indentation holes, and at the bottom left, too. I know they aren't from dropping it, as every time it's fallen, it's landed on its side or a corner, never flat on its back.
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I've dropped this phone in 1 week more than I've dropped my Pixel XL in the past 3 months, just because of how slippery the little bugger is. No damage as a result of dropping it, though.
I do have some very light scratches on the ceramic back, from sliding across my desk or countertop at home, which I was *not* expecting. Both the top, by the mod indentation holes, and at the bottom left, too. I know they aren't from dropping it, as every time it's fallen, it's landed on its side or a corner, never flat on its back.
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Stop being so rich with your diamond crusted desks and counter tops ?
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jerflash said:
Stop being so rich with your diamond crusted desks and counter tops ?
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So I actually was checking out these:
https://egrips.com
Was tired of all my phones falling out if my pockets or slipping thru my hands...
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Happy you like it man! It's not for everyone for sure. I thought it was my dream phone but for me... It's just not their yet. The next one maybe and still super happy with what they were able to make!
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It is definitely not the phone for everyone. Build quality is for everyone.
There are some software shortcomings. I think they can sort those out.
I sold my 6P. SO I have the Essential for the long haul.
I have my replacement phone arriving today. I have gone through 2 glass screen protectors that due to the fit of them (not sticking to the edges) I have a nick in the glass at the top left and the screen is completely shattered on the bottom left, I can see gold metal under it and it has a crack running diagonally from left to right from the bottom left. I know I never dropped this phone from more than 2 feet high. I also have the scratches on the ceramic back near the mods ports. I've only used my 360 a couple of times. I'm definitely getting a case and moving to a plastic wet install screen protector.
I haven't dropped this phone yet, but I have several hairline scratches on the back ceramic. I guess I'm around a lot of minerals or dust particles that are > 8 hardness, which I find interesting.
Also on the glass I notice a patch of hairline scratches. I'm usually real careful about my phones (of course, everyone says this) but I think that's more of Corning's fault this time around. They're really small but knowing they're there bothers me. I wish I could buff them out. I'll be getting a screen protector I guess.
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So I actually was checking out these:
https://egrips.com
Was tired of all my phones falling out if my pockets or slipping thru my hands...
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Oh wow, those are cool
My back panel got scratched (micro scratches) that's so weird. Got ceramic Xiaomi mi2 and it was perfectly strong....not like this one.
I dropped mine screen facing the floor from about 4 feet. Screen survived, minor scratches. Not a single crack. I didn't expect the screen to survive.
-Nav
I have a step from main floor to foyer. Placed my phone near the edge and my dog pushed it down to tiles. Face down smashed!
2 line of scratches at the bottom bezel.
small dings on top left and bottom left corner display.
Sigh... thought it would survive...
Hello, just to report here that the mirror black is prone to scratches (fine particles i believe). Here is the photo. Enjoy.
yup. had 2 on day 3 as well while it was on a case since day 1. quite disappointing.
Will cover it with dbrand or something like what gadgetshieldz offers (clear protecting skin).
My front glass has been scratched as well not too sure if it has olephobic coating, idk how it happened I'm really careful w my device.
That's why the first thing I buy with any phone is the cheap sofiguards on eBay. Protect the back
Actually for that reason only i bought dbrand skin i dont believe gorila glass 5 or even when gorilla glass 10 comes its better to protect your phone now iam searching for cheap and best temper glass any suggestions
from where did u get this skin ? and at what price maccha ?
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from where did u get this skin ? and at what price maccha ?
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here https://dbrand.com/shop/oneplus-6-skins
So it's just like on op5T. The silicon case damage the back of the phone..
Yep, I anticipated the back would scratch quite easily. So I installed a full coverage DBrand skin for the back and the camera lens, just after pulling the phone from the packaging. Then I immediately put the phone in the OnePlus Nylon case. This, paired with the OnePlus tempered glass protector, should keep my phone pristine for higher resale value down the road.
>doesn't use case
>complains phone got scratched
You people realize you're the reason manufacturers can't actually innovate and have to spend time and money backtracking to fix issues YOU'RE causing? I wouldn't be surprised if people start trying to blame a car dealership for their own stupid driving because the dealership sold them the car that they crashed. The mental gymnastics you must have to do are incomprehensible.
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>doesn't use case
>complains phone got scratched
You people realize you're the reason manufacturers can't actually innovate and have to spend time and money backtracking to fix issues YOU'RE causing? I wouldn't be surprised if people start trying to blame a car dealership for their own stupid driving because the dealership sold them the car that they crashed. The mental gymnastics you must have to do are incomprehensible.
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I am using the protective case given, still prone to scratch. And I'm giving a heads up for the people using this phone, to be extra careful.
So you're saying that if your power button fails one day, you won't blame the manufacturer but yourself because you prese the power button all the time?
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So you're saying that if your power button fails one day, you won't blame the manufacturer but yourself because you prese the power button all the time?
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No, he's saying that phones with glass backs have been prone to scratching quite easily for years (Galaxy S8/S9, iPhones, Pixel, Pixel 2 etc.). And they all use the same "Gorilla Glass 5". At this point it should be common sense to expect a phone with a glass back to scratch, even in a case. Cases can move slightly and rub against the back of the phone, causing these scratches. It's worse when debris gets between the phone and the case too.
It shouldn't be a surprise to you or anyone that this is going to happen. The best way to prevent it is with a full coverage skin for the back, prior to installing it in a case. But even that isn't 100% full proof.
Regardless, to complain about the back scratching is just silly, at this point.
The easy solution should be the back cover in plastic. But chinese makers are not making this. No idea why not. So we have to find solution our selves. Do you have a 3d printer? Or are you expert at doing craft projects? Can you make plastic back covers for those of us who want one?
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(anybody who wants to know - I made a cover with a plastic $1 folder. The plastic is soft but its tough stuff. Not easily punctured. Phone feels great on the hand and it feels slimmer. I still have to add some modifications to make it sturdier and make sure that it can withstand a fall without damaging the battery. No idea how to do that. I'll figure it out. The plastic works fine as a shock absorber but if something were to hit the battery area directly then that might transfer some force on the battery. So I'll have to find some way to make that area of the cover slightly more rigid. or place a shock absorbent material directly on top of the battery. Gotta find the right material that doesn't insulate the heat in.)
I'd buy a 3d printed plastic back cover if anyone made it available.
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I'd buy a 3d printed plastic back cover if anyone made it available.
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replacement glass backs are like 10$, its probably going to cost more to get something designed and printed if you dont have the skills yourself.
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replacement glass backs are like 10$, its probably going to cost more to get something designed and printed if you dont have the skills yourself.
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They are $10. But we don't want the glass back. :S I can put a vinyl wrap on it and manage the slippery surface. But I also know how ridiculously fragile it is. It also shatters and you get glass particles everywhere. So its not usable. I have thought about reinforcing the glass back with some sort of specialized tape like gorilla tape or glass filament tape or tent repair tape. You could use it that way. The glass would still be fragile. It'll crack under the circumstances it would have cracked otherwise. Basically the glass is very low quality. Motorola is likely lying if they say its some sort gorilla glass or something.
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They are $10. But we don't want the glass back. :S I can put a vinyl wrap on it and manage the slippery surface. But I also know how ridiculously fragile it is. It also shatters and you get glass particles everywhere. So its not usable. I have thought about reinforcing the glass back with some sort of specialized tape like gorilla tape or glass filament tape or tent repair tape. You could use it that way. The glass would still be fragile. It'll crack under the circumstances it would have cracked otherwise. Basically the glass is very low quality. Motorola is likely lying if they say its some sort gorilla glass or something.
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I don't know what you mean by "we" don't want the glass back. I like the glass back. I think it looks good and provides a good surface with which to grip the phone.
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replacement glass backs are like 10$, its probably going to cost more to get something designed and printed if you dont have the skills yourself.
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Yeah, I would expect custom 3d print to cost more than the mass produced Chinese replacements.
It's worth it. Glass backs are insane imo. It pushes design over function much too far. I don't need to show off with a my phone. Rather have a phone that isn't so fragile.
case? seems to keep mine in one piece lol
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I don't know what you mean by "we" don't want the glass back. I like the glass back. I think it looks good and provides a good surface with which to grip the phone.
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You know there are owners of this phone who don't like the glass back.
Also, there is a heat factor with the glass back. I removed the glass and using a poorly made plastic cover right now and heat dropped by like 10 degrees. lol. It charges with normal charger at below 30c. With turbo charger it goes up to around 35c. Phone running for hours streaming hulu or something at max may be 37c. What's the temp like with the glass back on? 45c+?
buschris said:
case? seems to keep mine in one piece lol
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True. But don't use a case a lot of the times.
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You know there are owners of this phone who don't like the glass back.
Also, there is a heat factor with the glass back. I removed the glass and using a poorly made plastic cover right now and heat dropped by like 10 degrees. lol. It charges with normal charger at below 30c. With turbo charger it goes up to around 35c. Phone running for hours streaming hulu or something at max may be 37c. What's the temp like with the glass back on? 45c+?
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But one man does not an entire consumer base make.
As for the temperatures, right now I'm at 28c with glass back and a case. Temperatures have never quite been a worry for me.
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But one man does not an entire consumer base make.
As for the temperatures, right now I'm at 28c with glass back and a case. Temperatures have never quite been a worry for me.
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I guess you are saying not enough people demand it so its not a category of product yet.
Temp would be around 5-10c less than glass back the way I have it set up. One of the beneficial aspect I have seen is phone cools down much quicker. It'll have an effect on longevity of the phone but its really not that big of an issue anyway with the higher temps on a glass back. I think the most important factor is the satisfaction of not having that dumb fragile glass back.
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I guess you are saying not enough people demand it so its not a category of product yet.
Temp would be around 5-10c less than glass back the way I have it set up. One of the beneficial aspect I have seen is phone cools down much quicker. It'll have an effect on longevity of the phone but its really not that big of an issue anyway with the higher temps on a glass back. I think the most important factor is the satisfaction of not having that dumb fragile glass back.
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To each their own, apparently.
If you're treating your phone respectfully, then the glass back should not be an issue. It is, after all, gorilla-glass, not just ordinary window-glass. If you're treating your phone roughly, then get a case or buy a different non-glass phone.
Right now glass and ceramic is en vogue in phone design. (see the top-end S10+ with its custom ceramic backplate) Particularly because it enables wireless charging without a buildup of static electricity. In a year or two they'll probably be on to a new trend, maybe leather as foldable phones start to mature. I actually miss those leather-backed phones that were around about 5 odd years ago.
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If you're treating your phone respectfully, then the glass back should not be an issue. It is, after all, gorilla-glass, not just ordinary window-glass. If you're treating your phone roughly, then get a case or buy a different non-glass phone.
Right now glass and ceramic is en vogue in phone design. (see the top-end S10+ with its custom ceramic backplate) Particularly because it enables wireless charging without a buildup of static electricity. In a year or two they'll probably be on to a new trend, maybe leather as foldable phones start to mature. I actually miss those leather-backed phones that were around about 5 odd years ago.
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You are right. But I'm not looking for top end glass back on my g6. :S TBH even on s10 I would probably want to switch out the glass back. It seems absurd to me that I'm carrying around something so fragile. I would predict if there is a new trend, it'll be some sort of durable material like plastic. When people hear plastic, they think its cheap and reduces the vibe of the device. But there are different types of plastic. Phone companies could do fancy and functional phone body and back covers easily. I have no idea why they don't. They could use tough rubbery material for the body too where you largely won't need a case. But they don't. Some aspects of design isn't evolving at all with phones.
Mine shattered after fall from stairs, but I won't expect any phone to survive this with no damage taken.
oposiasty said:
Mine shattered after fall from stairs, but I won't expect any phone to survive this with no damage taken.
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That's true. But a back cover made of any other material wouldn't shatter.