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So I was thinking about buying this phone but since dev support isn't that high I was wondering how long does xiaomi support their phones and how often, in case no custom roms are being made?
I have heard mixed statements.
Thx in advance.
Actually, xiaomi support for mi note 3 is very poor
its about time, it will get better
AL_IRAQI said:
its about time, it will get better
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I don't completely follow.
It's very bad I should say. There's no global dev rom and stable one is stuck with 9.1. Chinese one got 9.5.
You people really know how to kill my mood but thanks for the input.
JollyDrifter said:
I don't completely follow.
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they usually support their phones for many years, so we should be fine, and Oreo will be out this week
also Open Source support should be good also
Check the age of these suspended devices to get an idea.
Mi 2 was released in August 2012.
It was over 5 years old when suspended last fall, I believe the oldest.
Update Schedule Adjustment of MIUI 9 China Developer ROM
Nov-10-2017
http://en.miui.com/thread-1056304-1-1.html
. . . to ensure the best performance of MIUI, we have to make a tough decision of suspending the update of 10 devices after a long-time discussion and evaluation about the release time of devices, active users, hardware performance, etc.
MIUI 9 China Developer ROM (closed beta and public beta)
Starting from November 16th, 2017, update for MIUI 9 China Developer ROM of the following ten devices, namely Mi 2, Mi 3, Mi Note, Mi Note Pro, Mi Pad, Redmi 1, Redmi 1S, Redmi 2, Redmi 2A, Redmi Note 1, will be suspended, both closed beta and public beta.
MIUI 9 China Stable ROM
We will provide MIUI 9 China Stable ROM for users of above devices (Redmi 1 excluded) . MIUI Stable ROM 9.1 and MIUI Stable ROM 9.2 will be released in the future to help users enjoy the lightning last MIUI 9. The flashing method will be provided later. Please stay tuned to the forum. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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Its a complete mess.... this last 9.3 Xiaomi.eu for instance, is bugs plus bugs...like each rom is worse than the before
Seriously thinking sell this phone and return to my old 4 years Oppo Find 7. Even in camera is almost the same....
Mord0rr said:
Its a complete mess.... this last 9.3 Xiaomi.eu for instance, is bugs plus bugs...like each rom is worse than the before
Seriously thinking sell this phone and return to my old 4 years Oppo Find 7. Even in camera is almost the same....
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I'm running Xiaomi.eu weekly 8.2.1 on all my 3 Xiaomi phones, and they all run very well.
You have to pick and choose, and wait for it . . . about once a month a good weekly appears I think.
The stables do not seem to be very good in general.
AL_IRAQI said:
they usually support their phones for many years, so we should be fine, and Oreo will be out this week
also Open Source support should be good also
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Where did you get this info?
Also as far as I can see there won't be much support.
I miss my LG G2. It still gets official LOS and more.
omercicek43 said:
Where did you get this info?
Also as far as I can see there won't be much support.
I miss my LG G2. It still gets official LOS and more.
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Where ?, just check every Mi device on xda much love & support
and as for Miui, they keep updating their Ui for older devices, but they dont update the base tho, so our phone might only get O, then future updates will be newer Miui's only, that what i got from following Miui devs around
Yep...i use Stable, and except notifications and the stupid notifications theme error, everything runs smmotly...
I should go to OP5T...at least they have lot of roms to play.....
P.S. - Do not update yours!
AL_IRAQI said:
Where ?, just check every Mi device on xda much love & support
and as for Miui, they keep updating their Ui for older devices, but they dont update the base tho, so our phone might only get O, then future updates will be newer Miui's only, that what i got from following Miui devs around
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I'm pretty sure that they regret releasing the global rom in the first place.
omercicek43 said:
I'm pretty sure that they regret releasing the global rom in the first place.
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Right, releasing a global ROM before the device is officially sold globally is indeed a mistake. Now they can only be silent on those crying global ROM update requests in the forum to keep the engineers healthy mentally.
leledumbo said:
Right, releasing a global ROM before the device is officially sold globally is indeed a mistake. Now they can only be silent on those crying global ROM update requests in the forum to keep the engineers healthy mentally.
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It's too bad this won't be heard by others.
I just update last night to 9.5.3.0 Nchcnfa China Stable, from Xiaomi.eu....
Im not in hurry to fly to Oreo or something more recent...
My experience last years, show me that sometimes old stuff is better, and newr not necessarly better.....
Mord0rr said:
I just update last night to 9.5.3.0 Nchcnfa China Stable, from Xiaomi.eu....
Im not in hurry to fly to Oreo or something more recent...
My experience last years, show me that sometimes old stuff is better, and newr not necessarly better.....
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This. I'm kinda upset to see those crying for Oreo, while in devices who already got it, there are those crying because it's so buggy. They want the most impossible combination that money can't buy no matter how much: fast and stable release.
yep.
Just want ringtones ad notifications work, and i will stop updates, unless a nice AOSP rom appears with google camera and MIU to jump....
I am running xiaomi.eu 9.5 and i am very happy!
Yes I read reviews.
I owned a Oneplus One years ago and I gave up waiting for an upgrade and bought something else.
I here that OnePlus is better at upgrading today than they were four years ago. Is this true ?
Like I said I read and I know OnePlus 6 has available an Oxygen Beta (Android Pie) but it has not been officially released ? Is true if I buy a device I may need to wait several months until they Officially release Android Pie.
Now I know you will say just run the Beta it is stable but here is the make of break question I need Android Pay and Wear OS. My experience tells me if I flash a Beta required apps like Android Pay and Wear OS may stop working.
If I buy today I think the safe thing will be to wait for Oxygen OS (Android Pie) to be released. Customer ROMs or Beta OS will break for sure Android Pay.
Other than hating to wait for official releases this device looks fine.
No wireless charging sucks but I can live without it.
The Pixel camera maybe better but I read the OnePlus 6 camera is not bad
The OnePlus 6T will be out in November but ..... THERE IS ALWAYS A NEW DEVICE around the corner. Wait for the OnePlus 6T..... oh but it a few months this will be released.
This device gives better value for the dollar.
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
Official Pie has been released, you can already download the firmware and flash it.
As for updates and kernel source upload speed, the OP6 gets both the fastest among all devices I had.
As for taking pics, use the gcam port for great picture quality and the oos cam for [email protected] recording.
The Official build for Android pie has been released today which is nice as it took only about 1.5 months after Google released it themselves.
Thanks I jumped on a sale, and ordered one.
I am not even sure at this point I care about the Pixel, it may have a better camera but I am sure ordering the One Plus 6 I saved hundreds of dollars.
The OP 6T is set to be released in the next couple months. Unless you're in need of a headphone jack, I'd wait to get the latest version.
floridaman said:
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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To each their own indeed. And it's not a ridiculous mantra.just as countless many others, I do prefer to be able to switch over countless amounts of phone but still have the same familiar, debloated and resource friendly UI. Having to learning all the different "UX"s gets pretty dull, as soon as ie Samsung gets settled with one, they change design language. And that, for me, is a deal breaker, I don't feel like having to relearn the same basics over and over, and where I usually have to install another AOSP based ROM on ie my Xperia, HTC or Samsung. Whilst the OnePlus just has the familiarity and non-rubbish feel to it that AOSP has. But don't get me wrong, as you said, to each their own, and if it wasn't for people like you that don't want the stock feel, we wouldn't have custom kernels and/or ROMs. And I've ran all the betas except ob3 and currently run the stable... And I've yet to run into any app not loading, crashing, or features not working as intended. But I would recommend not jumping on the bandwagon as I regret doing so, until there are some more data and user reviews of the stable branch. And I'm not trusting anyone doing a forum post not being previously recognized or a proper reviewer. The stable build is solid, but it's still early to tell.
"HMD Global has announced the rollout of Android 10 for the Nokia 8.1, making it the first Nokia smartphone to get a stable build of the latest version of Android."
https://m.gsmarena.com/nokia_8_1_android_10_update-news-39549.php
Is this good news for any Android One phone, or Android One project, or is it a matter of manufacturers that build the phones, maybe this could have good effect on development of Android 10 for A2 Lite ?
Nokia always gave timely updates to their devices, this matter doesn't really have any effect on other androidone devices. Nokia also adds other features to their phones (they're all androidone afaik), like round ui, pixel blue accent color and cam2api. As far as updates go, xiaomi isn't that good with their androidone phones, so don't get your hopes up and get frustrated afterwards. I would love to have Android 10 soon but, I know it's not gonna happen. Cheers.
its strictly related to nokia, this. the fact that they will push it sooner then xiaomi means nothing to us. it all depends on Xiaomi when they will start working for it, and when will they release... nokia is known for being faster to update then xiaomi thats for sure. so just sit and wait
...or, you could install unofficial android 10, there is a good GSI version here on xda which works fairly well.
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Nokia always gave timely updates to their devices, this matter doesn't really have any effect on other androidone devices. Nokia also adds other features to their phones (they're all androidone afaik), like round ui, pixel blue accent color and cam2api. As far as updates go, xiaomi isn't that good with their androidone phones, so don't get your hopes up and get frustrated afterwards. I would love to have Android 10 soon but, I know it's not gonna happen. Cheers.
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My brother is using a Nokia 7 plus and I had Android 9 weeks before him and even with security updates Nokia isn't faster all the time compared to Xiaomi.
I've never managed to get any kind of custom rom working through TWRP because of the kinstalldeviceopenerror.
thorin0815 said:
My brother is using a Nokia 7 plus and I had Android 9 weeks before him and even with security updates Nokia isn't faster all the time compared to Xiaomi.
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Okay let me ask this, do you consider the Pie update we got as stable? Because I still think that we never got a stable build of Pie from Xiaomi. I can't even update to September update because it breaks the digitizer for me and I can't even use the screen properly. I have no idea how stable is Nokia's version of Pie but maybe you can enlighten us about that.
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Okay let me ask this, do you consider the Pie update we got as stable? Because I still think that we never got a stable build of Pie from Xiaomi. I can't even update to September update because it breaks the digitizer for me and I can't even use the screen properly. I have no idea how stable is Nokia's version of Pie but maybe you can enlighten us about that.
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In my eyes our Android Pie is very stable. I never had to reboot my device due to system instability bugs. The worst one I ever had was the screen rotate flash bug. My battery backup after one year of usage is still superb, usually I get 7 hours of screentime within 5-6 days of usage. Most reported bugs appear to be on devices which had installed custom firmware and messed up vendor partitions.
The only thing I dislike on this device is the low headphone sound volume while using a European Union display language. I'm just using U.S. English to fix that.
I don't know about bugs in Nokia phones, my brother never told me about anything special and I can't check his phone because he's in England and I'm in Germany.
Any news for Android 10 update?
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Any news for Android 10 update?
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Nothing official, but I think q1/2020 would be a good guess.
Last year Mi A1 got the Android 9 update on the 23rd of december.
My guess is Mi A2 Lite will get Android 10 in late december.
Hi guys,
i know Oneplus gives us three year of support.
I'm considerung to buy a OnePlus 7 Pro because my current sony smartphone haven't a good update Situation atm.
But i take care that i get fast Android Security Patches so i want to ask how OnePlus stands regarding this topic.
Do they offer the monthly security patches for every month and make them almost available at the same time as Google publish them?
Whats your experiences?
Almost available is the key word...it usually lands within weeks of Google's publish date...But why would you buy a OP7Pro now when it's already outdated by OP7TPro?
Just don't go for a 5G device currently would be my advice. Currently no sign of android 10, beta programme or even any communication from OnePlus about this update. You'd have thought they hadn't even produced the device the way they are ignoring owners.
Thanks at both of you.
No worry a 5g phone isn't a option für me because 5g is still in a very early state and LTE is more than enough for me.
The reason why i consider the OnePlus 7 pro over the t version are the many custom roms for that device. And they are mostly GApps free.
Personally i avoid the usage of every rom with preinstalled Google Apps and Services because of privacy reasons.
Hello,
I'm still using my Oneplus One with the original Cyanogen Mod.
I can definitely noticed the age of my phone nowadays. As I recently discovered that there are stable builds of Lineage OS available for the OPO I started wondering if an updated software would give my phone a bit of a revival. In general it is still in a good condition so I don't really want to just replace it.
Just wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions, if it is worth to update the software or if I rather should start searching for a replacement.
What is there to lose if you first try out the newest LineageOS, which is based on Android 11?
If you do not need things like a better camera or use your phone for gaming, the OPO is still as good as ever. I think my phone is smoother to use than it was 7 years ago because of the LineageOS team's work. Tomoms even has a performance optimized build for the OPO, which I can recommend strongly. Beware that the optimized build is more experimental than the official LineageOS.
Hi, I upgraded my oneplus one a couple of months to lineage OS 17.1 - works well and after adding Gapps is almost like a new phone. it is slightly slower but it gave a new life. little apprehensive for getting lineage Os 18.1, as it says it will be even slower due to software encryption