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Miracast Devices

Hey guys! So in the Nexus 4 release, one of the cool things they wrote about was Miracast support starting with the Nexus 4. I found this quite fascinating, but it's kinda been swept under the rug ever since. From doing my research the only supposedly compatible device I've been able to find is the Netgear PTV3000 http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-PTV3000-100NAS-Push2TV/dp/B00904JILO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354597005&sr=8-1&keywords=PTV3000 But there's even a review there that says it doesn't work.
So basically, has anyone actually seen Miracast working before? Any confirmed working devices yet? Or is the standard just too young?
I figured this could be a Miracast discussion thread. Unless there already is one, in which case I suck at searching and disregard!

I'm going to wait until theres a usb version, I have a media centre PC and would rather just plug it into that.

P8ntBal1551 said:
I'm going to wait until theres a usb version, I have a media centre PC and would rather just plug it into that.
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A USB adapter or an HDMI adapter would be very cool. I hope that doesn't take too long...

USB for HDMI?

Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.

jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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It is certainpy possible with a pc. You could use a raspberry pi as a "converter" so you can output to your tv

jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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If your device has MHL (Like the HTC EVO 3D), you have HDMI out through the USB port.
You just need an MHL adapter. Other than that, if your phone does not support HDMI out, it won't have it.

USB to HDMI?
You mean hdmi to USB correct? I used this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KI8IMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
to connect a monitor to my PC via USB 3.0 (has worked like a charm for weeks now.
They are designing a new one, or perhaps it's already out. Search ianker.com if you are looking for something similar.

#UP:
I use the same Very good conventer

jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
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In the generic sense, no. As noted above, some mobile devices have USB-style connectors that support MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link), which allow low-cost cables to support HDMI output and/or USB.
For PCs (Windows, Macs and Linux), there are video adapters that can be thought of as video cards that connect via USB (rather than PCI Express, for example). This kind of adapter could work on tablets, phones, etc. if there were a driver written for them, but this is a nontrivial task and the market is unproven, especially as MHL adoption grows.
Jonathan from Plugable

monoprice.com seach usb to hdmi

The only issue is if the device does not have mhl, then as of right now theres no way of gerting it to work in that sense. Even if you use say CM roms they cant take advantage of mhl even id your phone supports it. The devs have stated time and time again its proprietary and will basically never come. Regardless, im much more interested in miracast, simply put wireless hdmi connection to your tv. I have my nexus 7 using it via my ras pi. However its not polished yet and is a similar state to what Ive gotten using samsungs version with a dongle. Check it out if your interested google Android Transporter. Its on the raspberry pi website. They also got it working on the galaxy nexus and some other nexus device's.
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USB-C to HDMI

Hi!
I just received the XZ2 Compact and wondering if a USB-C to HDMI Adapter will work. The SoC supports it but it seems that the support is not integrated. I checked out an adapter that worked perfect with an HTC U11.
The XZ2 Compact itself is a bit thick but awesome, just fell in love with the speed.
Any comments welcome!

USB-C to HDMI and DisplayPort are part of the USB 3.1 standard but the device has to support it. Fortunately, SD835 and 845 both do but Sony admitted they disabled it in their 835 generation as part of a "design decision", even their Open Devices AOSP build can't use it. Any straight USB-C to HDMI or DisplayPort cable would work the same so long as it does not include additional peripherals like a card reader, extra USB ports, or anything else. Give it a try and us know.

No DisplayPort Alt
I just got mine today, no displayport alt support...again. DisplayLink works but audio doesn't as usual and options are limited since it's a proprietary solution.
Sony doesn't do enough with its phones to justify overlooking this. This is my last Sony phone.

Sumenthus said:
I just got mine today, no displayport alt support...again. DisplayLink works but audio doesn't as usual and options are limited since it's a proprietary solution.
Sony doesn't do enough with its phones to justify overlooking this. This is my last Sony phone.
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So to clarify, something like this won't work? https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/HDMI-4K-TV-Cable-for-SONY-XPERIA-XZ2-Compact-XZs-L1-XA1-XA2-Ultra-Adapter-Cord-/183105611896
That's really irritating.

I have USB-C to HDMI like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-C-to-H...735441?hash=item466de99591:g:Z94AAOSwbwJZ5jv6
But Sony doezn't work with.
Samsung S8 with no problem, thats shame for Sony.

Sumenthus said:
I just got mine today, no displayport alt support...again. DisplayLink works but audio doesn't as usual and options are limited since it's a proprietary solution.
Sony doesn't do enough with its phones to justify overlooking this. This is my last Sony phone.
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tdth99 said:
So to clarify, something like this won't work?
That's really irritating.
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Sumenthus said:
USB-C to HDMI and DisplayPort are part of the USB 3.1 standard but the device has to support it. Fortunately, SD835 and 845 both do but Sony admitted they disabled it in their 835 generation as part of a "design decision", even their Open Devices AOSP build can't use it. Any straight USB-C to HDMI or DisplayPort cable would work the same so long as it does not include additional peripherals like a card reader, extra USB ports, or anything else. Give it a try and us know.
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tomogo said:
I have USB-C to HDMI like this:
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But Sony doezn't work with.
Samsung S8 with no problem, thats shame for Sony.
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Dear All,
I have an Xperai XZ2 Compact h8324, downloaded an early access app called "DisplayLink Desktop Demo" and it works well with DELL DisplayLink device model d6000. I didn't try sound output but screen display with usb keyboard + mouse works great. You should give a try

USB C to Hdmi ???

Does anyone one know if the new Pixel 3a supports this or screen mirroring??? Its been my biggest set back from getting these phone and saw that its said USB 3.1 which supports it, so Im hopefull.

No hard confirmation yet. I'm sure SomeGadgetGuy will give a proper update at some point just not sure when we can expect it
No, the Pixel 3a is USB 2.0, not 3.1 (you can check Google's page for the device).
One of the previous threads did point out that the last Google sponsored phone which supported HDMI output was indeed the Nexus 5. At the time around the Nexus 5X/6P, it could've been argued that it was due to Cast capability (and forcing you to get that ChromeCast or AndroidTV). For the original Pixel - there hasn't been much movement on the Android side but lots of helpful additions to support ChromeOS.
I'm not so sure if the lack of display output over USB C will be taken as lightly for the Pixel 2/3 gen devices with all desktop mode info coming out.
For the Pixel 3a/ 3a XL, the price does play a factor and it won't be a big shock if the feature has been omitted. It's not something to be happy about but it's something which can be easy to understand.

1jsin4e said:
Does anyone one know if the new Pixel 3a supports this or screen mirroring??? Its been my biggest set back from getting these phone and saw that its said USB 3.1 which supports it, so Im hopefull.
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del mobile connect, its not brilliant for mirroring but shows it works

Might be a cable thing but I just gave it a go and failed.

Everyone was saying that it wasn't possible, but I finally figured out how to do it on my Pixel 3a XL! I uploaded a YouTube video so that people could see it actually is possible. Just search YouTube for the video title, "Pixel 3 to HDMI Video Output (using a WIRED adapter)" Basically you need to use a DisplayLink certified USB video adapter. I recommend that you get a newer adapter than the one I used because the frame rate dropped pretty bad at full screen and it put out really choppy/laggy video. I also tested it out on a USB-C powered DisplayLink certified monitor with the newer DisplayLink graphics chipset and the video was real smooth at full screen playback and while gaming.
Oh and you will also have to install the "DisplayLink Presenter" app/driver on your Pixel 2/3/4 phone from the Google Play Store.
Hope this helps!

mhl/tvout/hdmi

As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.

I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?

mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.

I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?

pawloland said:
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.

I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.

apoklyps3 said:
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.

pawloland said:
It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.

Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1

pawloland said:
It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging

Xtr3m3ro said:
Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?

No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.

mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.

Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)

hack.causality said:
The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.

gnrsenpai said:
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.

pawloland said:
Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging

hack.causality said:
I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack

mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......

Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?