USB C to Hdmi ??? - Google Pixel 3a Questions & Answers

Does anyone one know if the new Pixel 3a supports this or screen mirroring??? Its been my biggest set back from getting these phone and saw that its said USB 3.1 which supports it, so Im hopefull.

No hard confirmation yet. I'm sure SomeGadgetGuy will give a proper update at some point just not sure when we can expect it
No, the Pixel 3a is USB 2.0, not 3.1 (you can check Google's page for the device).
One of the previous threads did point out that the last Google sponsored phone which supported HDMI output was indeed the Nexus 5. At the time around the Nexus 5X/6P, it could've been argued that it was due to Cast capability (and forcing you to get that ChromeCast or AndroidTV). For the original Pixel - there hasn't been much movement on the Android side but lots of helpful additions to support ChromeOS.
I'm not so sure if the lack of display output over USB C will be taken as lightly for the Pixel 2/3 gen devices with all desktop mode info coming out.
For the Pixel 3a/ 3a XL, the price does play a factor and it won't be a big shock if the feature has been omitted. It's not something to be happy about but it's something which can be easy to understand.

1jsin4e said:
Does anyone one know if the new Pixel 3a supports this or screen mirroring??? Its been my biggest set back from getting these phone and saw that its said USB 3.1 which supports it, so Im hopefull.
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del mobile connect, its not brilliant for mirroring but shows it works

Might be a cable thing but I just gave it a go and failed.

Everyone was saying that it wasn't possible, but I finally figured out how to do it on my Pixel 3a XL! I uploaded a YouTube video so that people could see it actually is possible. Just search YouTube for the video title, "Pixel 3 to HDMI Video Output (using a WIRED adapter)" Basically you need to use a DisplayLink certified USB video adapter. I recommend that you get a newer adapter than the one I used because the frame rate dropped pretty bad at full screen and it put out really choppy/laggy video. I also tested it out on a USB-C powered DisplayLink certified monitor with the newer DisplayLink graphics chipset and the video was real smooth at full screen playback and while gaming.
Oh and you will also have to install the "DisplayLink Presenter" app/driver on your Pixel 2/3/4 phone from the Google Play Store.
Hope this helps!

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Will this phone have OIS? will it support normal hdmi out?

Something that was sorely missing from the OnePlus 5 was OIS.
Can anyone confirm if its got it.
Edit: yes it does
Second question I think I know the answer to but thought I'd ask.
I think no for both, but wait for launch day, who knows?
EDIT: OIS is most likely confirmed. (German Amazon leaked specs) But no HDMi sadly.
_MartyMan_ said:
I think no for both, but wait for launch day, who knows?
EDIT: OIS is most likely confirmed. (German Amazon leaked specs) But no HDMi sadly.
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Good news about OIS, the HDMI out of a killer, but displaylink will still work.
Are you sure about no HDMI out? Isn't that something that Android supports by default and since 1+6 will jave usb c I see no reason why it should not support?
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doctor78SI said:
Are you sure about no HDMI out? Isn't that something that Android supports by default and since 1+6 will jave usb c I see no reason why it should not support?
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No I'm afraid not, the last device to be able to use HDMI directly from usb-c was the HTC 10 to my recollection, since googles pixel doesn't use direct usb-c to HDMI, all devices are now the same.
Display link technology is a dock with its own chipset, meaning it can render for the device.
I have a thread in the one plus 5 forum because there simply was no way to use a wired solution, I've had the one plus since midnight on its launch day, the general idea was that HDMI out was not possible, I tested the display link devices I've got and it works.
You need an app but it works well.
Hopefully on the next batch of phones we can use HDMI directly, but I'd assume not.

mhl/tvout/hdmi

As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
pawloland said:
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
apoklyps3 said:
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
pawloland said:
It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.
Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
Xtr3m3ro said:
Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
hack.causality said:
The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.
gnrsenpai said:
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
pawloland said:
Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging
hack.causality said:
I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......
Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?

HDMI Support

Hello!
Has anyone been able to get HDMI support for the Pixel 3a? Seems like the perfect phone for my dad, but need to either have smart view for connecting to my TV or HDMI support. Thanks!
JJOSH31 said:
Hello!
Has anyone been able to get HDMI support for the Pixel 3a? Seems like the perfect phone for my dad, but need to either have smart view for connecting to my TV or HDMI support. Thanks!
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I tried it with the usb-c to HDMI adaptor I have that works with my S8. Sadly it does not work the Pixel 3a. I don't think it's designed to ever have video out through the usb-c
It will cast to a tv or Chrome cast but I cannot get it to even recognize a Fire Stick. I'm sure it's because of it being made by Amazon
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Sadly it does not work the Pixel 3a. I don't think it's designed to ever have video out through the usb-c
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You are correct. Google stopped this ability (usb X to hdmi) on their devices years ago. Are you attempting to connect Fire directly to the 3a? You would have the same problem. While Chromecast is made to operate from your device, Fire is not. Anything Fire supplies is available through the Amazon app so no need to connect Fire to device. 3a does connect to roku. You can also use the Fire remote app or roku remote app on your device. Both are really effective.
FWIW, there is a thread on this already.
JJOSH31 said:
Hello!
Has anyone been able to get HDMI support for the Pixel 3a? Seems like the perfect phone for my dad, but need to either have smart view for connecting to my TV or HDMI support. Thanks!
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Everyone was saying that it wasn't possible, but I finally figured out how to do it on my Pixel 3a XL! I uploaded a YouTube video so that people could see it actually is possible. Just search YouTube for the video title, "Pixel 3 to HDMI Video Output (using a WIRED adapter)" Basically you need to use a DisplayLink certified USB video adapter. I recommend that you get a newer adapter than the one I used because the frame rate dropped pretty bad at full screen and it put out really choppy/laggy video. I also tested it out on a USB-C powered DisplayLink certified monitor with the newer DisplayLink graphics chipset and the video was real smooth at full screen playback and while gaming.
Oh and you will also have to install the "DisplayLink Presenter" app/driver on your Pixel 2/3/4 phone from the Google Play Store.
Hope this helps!

second screen over usb c

So my wife just made me jealous with her LG V35 :crying:. She plugged my macbook pro dock into it and then an hdmi cable and had a second display for her phone. Is there a kernel I can flash that will give me that functionality?
Unfortunetly google removed this i think.Now you have to buy a google chromecast.But Even with a chromecase you cannot stream games.
Everyone was saying that it wasn't possible, but I finally figured out how to do it on my Pixel 3a XL! I uploaded a YouTube video so that people could see it actually is possible. Just search YouTube for the video title, "Pixel 3 to HDMI Video Output (using a WIRED adapter)" Basically you need to use a DisplayLink certified USB video adapter. I recommend that you get a newer adapter than the one I used because the frame rate dropped pretty bad at full screen and it put out really choppy/laggy video. I also tested it out on a USB-C powered DisplayLink certified monitor with the newer DisplayLink graphics chipset and the video was real smooth at full screen playback and while gaming.
Oh and you will also have to install the "DisplayLink Presenter" app/driver on your Pixel 2/3/4 phone from the Google Play Store.
Hope this helps!

Question Video out over Hdmi? Or is it only Cast? is there a wireless solution/dongle?

Hello All,
I was wondering if there is any sort of hdmi over type C available on the device or are we locked to casting only.
I have a dex type device that I can plug into via HDMI however i am getting no signal.
I have a feeling it might not be the cable and may be more to do with the device.\
Is there a dongle or something that I can connect to wirelessly that is not explicitly a chrome cast for screen mirroring?
Has anyone had any luck with HDMI out?
HDMI out is not a thing on Pixels in the traditional sense.
The only way I have heard being successful is listed here, with a docking station as mentioned (for the record, that's the only one I know to actually be compatible but I am sure there are others).
Project your Pixel phone's screen - Pixel Phone Help
If you have a Chromecast or other device that casts, you can mirror your Pixel phone's screen and audio on
support.google.com
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HDMI out is not a thing on Pixels in the traditional sense.
The only way I have heard being successful is listed here, with a docking station as mentioned (for the record, that's the only one I know to actually be compatible but I am sure there are others).
Project your Pixel phone's screen - Pixel Phone Help
If you have a Chromecast or other device that casts, you can mirror your Pixel phone's screen and audio on
support.google.com
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Sigh..
Thanks mate for the reply, was hoping i could get creative but a giant dock is not really user friendly with a laptop type device in the car lol.

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