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Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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it is possible, but i don't know what will happened
From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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There's no doubt we'll see the next version after Marshmallow on this phone, but I can guarantee you it won't be in the form of official updates via Cyanogen Inc, it'll be in the form of community developed ROMs via CyanogenMod. If you meant CyanogenMod and not Cyanogen Inc then I misunderstood you.
I just meant Roms in general
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Moto E: cheap budget phone that I think people only bought as a placeholder when they broke a phone or something else happened, it's not a flagship. nobody bought it to use for 2+ years and I don't think it was intended as such.
Moto x: did you see that the pure is getting updated? That means it was the carriers decision, not Motorola's. Also, it's easy to convert the att/Verizon version to the pure version and then you'll get the update fine.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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As soon as Lenovo brought out Pure they let go about 500 Motorola employees, many who were in the dev department... They are giving people hard times about returns saying it will take 6-8 weeks to get their money back on an overnight return label. The pure QC is piss poor, if you go to their forums, their most popular thread is about returning the phone... This clearly isn't the same Motorola we used to love. I'm not big on OnePlus either, I only came back here, because at least I know my OnePlus works, I'll never buy from them again though, that's for sure.
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Here they don't say we will get COS13 but only Oxygen / Hydrogen :
http://www.gadgetlite.in/2015/10/here-is-list-of-devices-getting-android.html#.VhNtuWuBS6F
But since the communication of Cyanogen is not really a "thing" I won't settle for this news
Source has dropped, so we might see devs starting to build soon
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/marshmallow-release
Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
Well i think it will be possible to get a bootable AOSP 6.0 Rom , cause we already had a booting 5.1.51 Rom!
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Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
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the radio issues are driving me nuts, no matter what modem i use i still run into issues.
Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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Agreed. Look at when we finally got 5.1.1...SMH
BTW, pretty sure you meant Cyanogen Inc, not CM
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Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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The probability is high that we'll get a taste (not likely daily driver level sweet mind you) of Marshmallow by tomorrow:
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Just saw that the Android N just came out....
What now, will someone port the version over to S7 devices or will be have to wait on Samsung to update :/ ?
We have to wait Samsung..I will test CM 14 on my Moto G 2013 when it's released
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Damn, i want it asap
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Damn, i want it asap
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You're not the only one
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
Shuuin said:
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
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Any developers here would do it if it was somwhat posibile but Samsung doesn't release the source code of Exynos so it's somewhat impossibile. It's like you need to build a town with buildings but you don't have a map of pipes to see here you need to put it...
Developers need to write all the drivers and with guessing what where it goes and really is impossibile.
My Moto G 2013 will get CM 14 beacuse Motorola released the source code for Android 5.1 and they have a starting point. Here we have nothing.
Not going to happen. We'll see it in roughly six months.... Oh well... Samsung supports their devices like one time phones. Only sales matters no support. They have let their customers down so many times now...
I'm afraid that they'll make some patch and security update of Android 6 for S7/Edge sooner. But let's hope that they'll push hard for Note 7 and some king will port it on S7.
I'd start hunt for it. I feel free to give 20 USD donate for stable (almost) clean Android 7 ROM
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Im sure the international phones will get it this year, carrier phones will get it next year heh
As Eurofighter_ty said above, there will be no "porting" of Android N (or any other non-Touchwiz ROM like CyanogenMod) to a Samsung device with an Exynos SoC due to proprietary sources that Samsung will not release. There are exceptions where an extremely talented and motivated dev takes the time to reverse engineer drivers.
If history serves, it will be several months before Samsung starts rolling Nougat out, newest and most important devices first (N7, S7, S7E...). These are things to know before buying any Samsung device.
Maybe, i should just wait for S8 then XD
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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thx cusa
I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
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I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
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I would agree, I've seen major android updates in the past where its been like a step backwards and so it only leads to disappointment. Hopefully we are at a stage with android where this update (6 to 7) is more of a polishing of the current OS. Yes I know there are some additional features but its not a major overhaul as we've had in the past. I think most people would mostly appreciate some better consistency with battery life, Im not saying mine isnt good but there still seems to be a high android OS usage,so hopefully the enhanced doze feature tackles this, but we'll see. The one benefit of not getting the update right now is that over the next few months hopefully a lot of issues will be ironed out, for instance app compatibility. There are almost always cases where "I've just upgraded but now XXXX app doesnt work??" and you have to wait for the dev to update so their app so that it works nicely with the latest release.
Some of the Android N features are already in the S7. Multi window for example. Or Android for Work which overlaps with Knox. Other stuff is nice but only for new devices, like the seamless updates. The new JIT may be an exception, and the new graphics subsystem would also be nice.
About the VR stuff: I double Samsung will enable it for the Gear VR but we can of course hope.
Expect to have android N next year around April or May
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Since OP6 is launching with oreo on board and Android P beta is already available for OP6 does that mean that the next major android version will be the last update for the OP6 as OEM like to follow 2 major upgrades for their flagships ?
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Since OP6 is launching with oreo on board and Android P beta is already available for OP6 does that mean that the next major android version will be the last update for the OP6 as OEM like to follow 2 major upgrades for their flagships ?
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Maybe because OnePlus 3 was launched with marshmallow and last major update was oreo so it could be but OnePlus 6 will support Project Treble so don't know for sure but I think it'll recieve more updates.
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Maybe because OnePlus 3 was launched with marshmallow and last major update was oreo so it could be but OnePlus 6 will support Project Treble so don't know for sure but I think it'll recieve more updates.
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Oneplus should extend the support period to 3 years as with pixel 2 phone.
arjun said:
Oneplus should extend the support period to 3 years as with pixel 2 phone.
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I thought with Project Treble it will get P, Q & R ?
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I thought with Project Treble it will get P, Q & R ?
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Let's hope for it.
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Let's hope for it.
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Absolutely
Absolutely not, guaranteed
SlyUK said:
I thought with Project Treble it will get P, Q & R ?
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What about S, T etc.? Or am I missing something?
I think that support for a phone depends on its popularity, the manufacturers do not follow strict guidelines, I mean, they respect their promises but they may extend support if a product is very popular and has a very large user base. And I predict that the OP6 will be very popular because it doesn't have obvious shortcomings, it looks to be ticking all the essential boxes.
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What about S, T etc.? Or am I missing something?
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Or maybe Z ver. Do you wanna keep your phone till 2040?
sitarumadalincosmin said:
Or maybe Z ver. Do you wanna keep your phone till 2040?
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Why not?
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Why not?
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Hahaha...keep dreaming
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Hahaha...keep dreaming
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My question was especially if there are plans after Android R or if Google already mentioned something that it will stop. I thought I maybe missed something (also looking at Fuchsia).
I don't get why people worry SO much about what versions of android a device will get as long as it gets solid security updates for at least a year after release. If the phone is very good already, would it be such torture to keep living with it the way it is? Don't think so.
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I don't get why people worry SO much about what versions of android a device will get as long as it gets solid security updates for at least a year after release. If the phone is very good already, would it be such torture to keep living with it the way it is? Don't think so.
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It wouldn't be torture, but it would be nice to think you can use the phone for a few years and be running the latest and greatest software on it, without the need for upgrading the phone to the newest model.
So, the phone is just released and we're already talking about his its end of support? :laugh:
if not there will always be project trebble roms for it .
Here's the official Software Support outline from OnePlus
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-software-maintenance-schedule.862347/
So two years means Android Q for sure but maybe not Android R .
One Plus 6 was released in about April 2018, Pie comes out is released in September
April 2019 One Plus 7??? then Android Q in about September.
The One Plus 6 would be about a year and a half old.
April 2020 One Plus 8 ???? then Android R in September but then the One Plus 6 would be 2 and a half .... may not see Android R
I can live with that replacing a cell phone every two years is not unreasonable.
What bother me about software cycles is I know this is all arbitrary and is done so we would want to buy new phones.
Meanwhile if I wanted to root, I am sure my One Plus 6 will work with third party ROMs "download them from XDA" many years after OnePlus abandons my device.
It will receive Android R
Op6 will be updated to Android R as op3/3t launched with marshmallow and officially will be updated to Android pie as confirmed by OnePlus...Op 6 n Op6t(already launched on pie.. so definitely Android R) will receive Android R
I've searched for this everywhere.. but haven't find an answer.
What will happen to the oneplus 6 and the other unpixel devices that support P beta, when the development ends and google releases the public version ?
Will it be instantly updated alongside the pixel devices ?
isnt the whole purpose of treble to make the updates easily available, the rest is up to manufacturers
Android P will be in Beta till the Pixel 3 is released - normally November.
One would assume that a stable kernel and OS will be available for OnePlus to use around that time (maybe as late as Jan 2019 depending on OnePlus's resources). Be patient. If you are apart of the P beta program then get used to the issues associated with beta software
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Android P will be in Beta till the Pixel 3 is released - normally November.
One would assume that a stable kernel and OS will be available for OnePlus to use around that time (maybe as late as Jan 2019 depending on OnePlus's resources). Be patient. If you are apart of the P beta program then get used to the issues associated with beta software
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So oneplus will stay in beta months after the official release? This is ridiculous.. it's supposed to get it as soon as it becomes official
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So oneplus will stay in beta months after the official release? This is ridiculous.. it's supposed to get it as soon as it becomes official
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No, it's supposed to get it much quicker then other OEMs if a phone is part of Project Treble. The Google Pixel phones will ALWAYS be the first to get it as it's made for the Pixel line... the OEMs like OnePlus will get it sonner then most and it's just much easier to get it to the phones. So expect it roughly a month or so maybe 2 after it's released on the Pixel line.
Become a developer and write yourself a working Android P if you don't want to wait
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Become a developer and write yourself a working Android P if you don't want to wait
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The issue isn't about waiting
All I'm saying is that The oneplus 6 (and other phones supporting the beta) should get it instantly.. with the pixel or couple of days after...
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Android P will be in Beta till the Pixel 3 is released - normally November.
One would assume that a stable kernel and OS will be available for OnePlus to use around that time (maybe as late as Jan 2019 depending on OnePlus's resources). Be patient. If you are apart of the P beta program then get used to the issues associated with beta software
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What?? Why would it not be official until the pixel 3 launch???
Android P will probably be released in August like Android Oreo, and it will probably be official in August/September
Lol. People will never be happy... Whaaaa? No official P at the same time with Pixel 3? Feel blessed that you have Project Treble. Before Treble, OEMs was getting source code only after the final version was released. That was the point when OEMs could start working on their betas. Or to put it on other words: first betas late November (in the best scenario) and final release February, March. Now we have betas in May-June and people are still crying lol.
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The issue isn't about waiting
All I'm saying is that The oneplus 6 (and other phones supporting the beta) should get it instantly.. with the pixel or couple of days after...
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Then buy a damn pixel! Just smdh
Eric214 said:
Then buy a damn pixel! Just smdh
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Calm down buddy.. i said the issue isn't about waiting.. but it seems that you don't understand..
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Calm down buddy.. i said the issue isn't about waiting.. but it seems that you don't understand..
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You asking question about when the beta will be released won't make the update come fast. You'll know when the update will be released. Till then keep researching.
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Calm down buddy.. i said the issue isn't about waiting.. but it seems that you don't understand..
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I understand perfectly... Google will never allow another device to have the newest Android version before the pixel line and once it's out on the pixels, they will release it to the other pens when they choose, which likely will be a bit after it's on the pixels for a bit. It's just the way it is, treble or not.
what's the rush anyway?? it's a freaking phone not your life support system... smh
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Then buy a damn pixel! Just smdh
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100% agree with this! If you want the latest and greatest first, then Pixel phones are the best options. For me, the latest security updates are the most important thing - any phone manufacturer that doesn't release these on time is dead to me (Huawei is the worst).. I think what OnePlus is doing is better than the average, so if you don't like it, move along..
I've searched for this everywhere.. but haven't find an answer.
What will happen to the oneplus 6 and the other unpixel devices that support P beta, when the development ends and google releases the public version ?
Will it be instantly updated alongside the pixel devices ?
Have you checked your crystal ball?
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The issue isn't about waiting
All I'm saying is that The oneplus 6 (and other phones supporting the beta) should get it instantly.. with the pixel or couple of days after...
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You do realize that OxygenOS is not stock android. So how would they release it instantly when they need to customize it before release.
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You do realize that OxygenOS is not stock android. So how would they release it instantly when they need to customize it before release.
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It's available as a beta.. they're already in the process of customizing it... And that's a first for android and google.. and that's why in my opinion it should be available for the beta supported devices much faster than previous iterations, I Mean..... What's the point of the beta then ?
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I've searched for this everywhere.. but haven't find an answer.
What will happen to the oneplus 6 and the other unpixel devices that support P beta, when the development ends and google releases the public version ?
Will it be instantly updated alongside the pixel devices ?
Have you checked your crystal ball?
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How long will it get updates? And wich versions - Just the normal 2 years (Android 11 and 12)?
Is Asus slow or fast for the security patches?
Thank you.
ASUS has been awful regarding updates. People complained an awful lot regarding their ROG and Zenfone 6 updates. You can just check the ASUS forums. It paints a grim picture.
This is why I hesitate so much. So much money and no support. Kind of a hard purchase.
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ASUS has been awful regarding updates. People complained an awful lot regarding their ROG and Zenfone 6 updates. You can just check the ASUS forums. It paints a grim picture.
This is why I hesitate so much. So much money and no support. Kind of a hard purchase.
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Oh ok! Then I don't buy it. Thank you.
Zenfone 6 currently has the Aug security patch & was one of the first phones to receive Android 10, expect it to get 11 either at the end of this year or early in '21 as the beta program has already started.
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Zenfone 6 currently has the Aug security patch & was one of the first phones to receive Android 10, expect it to get 11 either at the end of this year or early in '21 as the beta program has already started.
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Ok the complete opposite! I'm confused...
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Ok the complete opposite! I'm confused...
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I'm just stating the facts
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I'm just stating the facts
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I ordered the phone yesterday and hope the best! ?
Hopefully works out. I'm probably going to stick with the ZF6 as it working fine for me, maybe the ZF8 next year!
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This is quite inspiring!
Even if Asus was quite quick with android 10 and started beta for 11... Zenfone 6 won't have android 12. And, zenfone 7, will just have 1 full year of support (android 11 already available frome google).
when samsung, Oneplus et even Poco announce 3 years of support, it's quite sad from asus.
September security patch showed up on the Zenfone 6 this morning.
I'm really looking forward to picking up the 7 Pro myself, and from everything I've seen on here and on Reddit, it seems like Asus has been really good with the updates on the ZF6 so far. Also don't see it mentioned anywhere that there will only be 1 year of supported updates.
Given their lightweight skin and fast updates, I think the support should be decent.
It should be ok as the ZF6 had Android 9 out of the box, got Android 10 at the end of last year & has 11 coming at some stage either at the end of the year or early next year. I doubt it will get 12 tbh but you never know.
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I'm really looking forward to picking up the 7 Pro myself, and from everything I've seen on here and on Reddit, it seems like Asus has been really good with the updates on the ZF6 so far. Also don't see it mentioned anywhere that there will only be 1 year of supported updates.
Given their lightweight skin and fast updates, I think the support should be decent.
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It will only have 1 year, you'll see. 2 major updates.
Android 11 already out, but zenfone 7 come with 10, so 11 et 12 = 2 major updates but 1 year.
The update is not slow, however the update barely give you any new features except security updates. That means the features you have in the beginning is what you have in the end.
So far so good. They've released a few incremental updates fixing things which is inspiring. Hopefully they keep up with that.