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[Modification] CPU, Ram and other IC Cooling for OCers

Warning: Attempt this modification at your own discretion. I am not responsible for any damages which may occur.
After attempting to OC my phone, I noticed hot spots when stressing my CPU at 1.4ghz. Looking at the anatomy of my phone (http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-I-9000-Teardown/7122/1), I noticed the structural mid-plate is a metallic alloy. This modification tries to cool the CPU and other heat generating ICs by using the phone's mid-plate and EMI shielding as a heatsink.
Test:
CPU stressed for 10 Min at 1.4ghz starting from a minimum cooled state. Application: “Stability Test”
Before Mod: 53oC (127.5oF) at 7 min 48 sec (I cut the test short as I did not want to overheat my phone)
After Mod: 43oC (109.5oF) at 10 min 10 sec
Procedure:
1. Teardown your phone as per the ifixit.com site and extract the mainboard.
2. Remove the simcard & MicroSD EMI Shield
3. Apply thermal compound to all the raised ICs. This allows the EMI shield to act as a small heatsink.
4. Reinstall EMI Shield and press down firmly to allow proper contact with the thermal compound
5. On the other side of the mainboard, liberally apply thermal compound onto the exposed ICs as per the pictures. Note: There is a relatively large gap between the surface of the ICs and the mid-plate.
6. Reinstall mainboard and press firmly against the mid-plate. If the thermal compound is making contact with the midplate then there should be some slight resistance when trying to lift the mainboard. If there is no resistance, then you will need to apply more thermal compound.
7. Install remaining components and close up your phone.
I used Arctic Silver 5 as I had some laying around. It is probably better to use a non metallic thermal compound, but I have yet to experience any problems with electric components.
My phone has been modded for about 2 weeks, running @ 1.5ghz and I have yet to experience any ill effects with operating system or with the OLED screen.
Though this mod is reversible, it may be messy cleaning up the thermal compound from your phone.
Happy Modding

interesting idea...
although it sounds like your just trying to squish as much pb&j between the plate and the ic's.
whitewindhtc said:
I used Arctic Silver 5 as I had some laying around. It is probably better to use a non metallic thermal compound, but I have yet to experience any problems with electric components.
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indeed, i've never had trouble with AS5 but would probably go with a non metallic compound for this.
PS wow, that's a LOT of AS5... must have cost you $5 just in compound just to do that

Either way, conduction is almost always better than convection in terms of cooling a heat source. It might be a little messy, but the mod is quite effective.
The amount of thermal compound is quite a bit, but I wanted to ensure that I made contact with the 'heatsink'. There are many cheaper thermal compound alternatives than AS5, but I ran out of the generic white stuff.

very good idea.. thanks for sharing. do you think using thermal pad in this case would be better solution than thermal compound? or do think that thermal pad. won't work?
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Although thermal pads would be cleaner, they are also more difficult to use in this application due to the variation in gap spacing between the component and heatsink.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

Wanted to fix the GPS antenna connector, ended doing this aswell, although just RAM and CPU. The amount of thermal grease is really enourmous for a proper contact. To anyone who will do this aswell, take your time, its not hard, just be patient

wow, great!
Btw, in which kernel you use OC 1.5ghz?

NDeaz said:
wow, great!
Btw, in which kernel you use OC 1.5ghz?
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Devil kernel can do that
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1.5ghz it's 1400mhz*107%liveoc? or what?
P.S. interesting to see benchmark results on 1.5ghz

Thank you for the idea. Just done that with thermal pads since it's more clean.

jorgemiguel4 said:
Thank you for the idea. Just done that with thermal pads since it's more clean.
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Where do you get that stuff? I couldnt find any seller in my country. Ebay/amazon?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda app-developers app

R4DK0 said:
Where do you get that stuff? I couldnt find any seller in my country. Ebay/amazon?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda app-developers app
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Ebay

How are the temps with the termal pads? Do you notice any improvement?
Does the phone still heat up when oc and playing games?
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darkknigh_t said:
How are the temps with the termal pads? Do you notice any improvement?
Does the phone still heat up when oc and playing games?
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda app-developers app
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I havent't measured it with any app, but noticed that the heat is more spreaded over the phone after some time playing a game... That's a good thing, I guess.

Looks like a good idea. Getting the most out of this little device always helps.

Do you guys get stability over 1.2-1.3GHz? Achieved with "oc" and/or "live oc"? After applying this mod, this thermal compound, the phone definately heats up more evenly.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda app-developers app

Thanks for the idea.. i'll try this one..
better not damage my SGS . (i hope :angel

jorgemiguel4 said:
I havent't measured it with any app, but noticed that the heat is more spreaded over the phone after some time playing a game... That's a good thing, I guess.
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How thick pad do you recommend? Would 0.5 mm be too much?

elektroda said:
How thick pad do you recommend? Would 0.5 mm be too much?
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I have used 1mm thick on mine.

how this enormous OC affected battery life? will it last through the day?

No Liquid in Vapor/Condensation Tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZU9U72OU5s&t=4m25s
I hope this is a flawed device and not an indicator of the way Samsung does business.

The video also explains it, it's not a flaw.

siddhesh.raikar said:
The video also explains it, it's not a flaw.
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I've watched it a few times and it doesn't. I've got a pretty good grasp of physics so I think it's safe to say there's no liquid in there. I'll draw it out for you. Any vapor in the chamber would have to be 1) heated or not a liquid at room temp, 2) not mitigate the heat in gaseous state. Liquid/Vapor chambers work when the liquid mitigates the heat (heating it up to a gas state) and then runs up the tube to the cooler area of the heatsink (welcome to entropy) and then recondenses. This is how they work. Without any liquid at room temperature it very obviously is not a liquid cooled chamber. If it's not a flaw then Samsung is basically a company willing to blatantly lie to increase their sales.

Easy fellas! You're both right. As the video explains, the s7 has a "heat pipe" rather than liquid cooling. From my perspective, as long as it does its job, I couldn't care less, but it is interesting that sammy represented it as liquid whereas it is not....

dew.man said:
Easy fellas! You're both right. As the video explains, the s7 has a "heat pipe" rather than liquid cooling. From my perspective, as long as it does its job, I couldn't care less, but it is interesting that sammy represented it as liquid whereas it is not....
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It seems to be working perfectly fine for most who have the device in hand except for the few reporting overheating during VR. My concern would be the inconsistency in both Samsung's message and the product. For all practical purposes it might not matter.

cepheid46e2 said:
(welcome to entropy)
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Hi! I love you too, buddy!

cepheid46e2 said:
It seems to be working perfectly fine for most who have the device in hand except for the few reporting overheating during VR. My concern would be the inconsistency in both Samsung's message and the product. For all practical purposes it might not matter.
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I'm not experiencing any overheating issues with the S7 edge using Gear VR, and I tried it for hours at a time.
Compared to the S6 edge, MAJOR IMPROVEMENT!!!!

LIVEFRMNYC said:
I'm not experiencing any overheating issues with the S7 edge using Gear VR, and I tried it for hours at a time. Compared to the S6 edge, MAJOR IMPROVEMENT!!!!
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:highfive: Excellent. If all the phones function that way it's a moot point.

Is it possible all of the liquid is actually contained within the copper fibers and thus not visible? I would assume there's not very much as it would expand when It became a gas. Just throwing out ideas. By contained I mean, essentially stuck to.

The samsung engineer in China already explained it, there is 0.02 g water or cooling liquid inside and when you cut the pipe, they already vaporized.

As long as the phone doesn't overheat, who cares?

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20degrees said:
As long as the phone doesn't overheat, who cares?
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Curious if this turns out to be overheating throttling or just poor software and RAM management:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=MQ8pTGCcW7A
Guessing the latter. 820 is suppose to run cooler, heat pipe, more RAM than the other android phones.

jeffonion said:
The samsung engineer in China already explained it, there is 0.02 g water or cooling liquid inside and when you cut the pipe, they already vaporized.
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Where did you find this info?

So I'm guessing that people would rather have notable amounts of water/liquid sealed inside of a $800+. In the even an excessive shock causing the tubing to fail and in turn fry internal component's. To each their own, but I'm comfortable with what the component is capable of doing for what it is......... My .2 cents.

Kasya said:
Where did you find this info?
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http://m.weibo.cn/1651911632/394890...WEIBO_SECOND_PROFILE_WEIBO_-_3948908579071957

who cares of it's not liquid? Some guys who already have the phone say it doesn't heat the way the S6 does... Personally, I don't care how they do it, I only care that it doesn't get too hot

jeffonion said:
The samsung engineer in China already explained it, there is 0.02 g water or cooling liquid inside and when you cut the pipe, they already vaporized.
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any source link please!
:good:

Geeks Empire said:
any source link please!
:good:
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Dude...it's literally two posts above you....

I'm not too sure what people are expecting. There is very very little water inside. I get the impression that some people are expecting water to gush out like a tap.

[FIXED]Lg v20 screen burn in fixed

Assalam o alaikum!
This is for all those who are facing screen burn in in lg v20 display.( This tutorial has also worked for many other devices so if you're facing the same issue just give it a try to see whether it works for you or not)
This tutorial will also increase the color vibrance of display.
The only things You gonna need are
1 a custom kernel supporting Kcal
2 kernal auditor app or Simply Color control apk
3 apply these values and use your phone for around 10 to 20 mins and screen burn in Gone (in sha Allah)
Red 240
Green 240
Blue 240
Minimum 35
Saturation 50-65(depending upon your choice of color viberancy)
Value 130
Contrast 130
Hue 1520
*For more warmer and Super amoled like color, also Go to settings>Display> comfort view and set it to low* and you're good to go ?
[<WORKING ON OREO TOO>](as reported by an oreo user)
Hit thanks if it helped

Hello, with the rom stock I can not configure? only with root? any alternative via ADB?

Seems to work!
Thanks for that fix. I had read another fix had to do with physically replacing the thermal past inside the screen. This was much easier, but I am curious as to why this works. And will there be any consequence? Will it use more power or anything like that? The only value that was far from default was Hue.

Looks like its working on my G5.

DaVinniCode said:
Thanks for that fix. I had read another fix had to do with physically replacing the thermal past inside the screen. This was much easier, but I am curious as to why this works. And will there be any consequence? Will it use more power or anything like that? The only value that was far from default was Hue.
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I actually looked into this and did it myself. Was quite easy as long as you're comfortable with tiny screws and parts. As far as phones go, there certainly isn't and probably never will be an easier phone to repair...
Took mine apart, saw a Reddit post about the thermal paste issue. It doesn't surprise me, these big companies always cheep out on thermal compound *cough Intel*. It's 21 screws, pop a few connectors, then the board comes out. Clean the old pink goo off, replace with good stuff (I use Arctic MX-4). So far seems ok, still noticed the retention but I'm hoping it will disappear.
Sounds like LCD displays are prone to getting hot which contributes to the image retention. I'm not an expert though, just what I read.

orlandofc said:
Hello, with the rom stock I can not configure? only with root? any alternative via ADB?
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Yes definitely Root is required and also a custom kernal supporting KCAL
Because stock kernal doesn't support the Kcal

bond32 said:
I actually looked into this and did it myself. Was quite easy as long as you're comfortable with tiny screws and parts. As far as phones go, there certainly isn't and probably never will be an easier phone to repair...
Took mine apart, saw a Reddit post about the thermal paste issue. It doesn't surprise me, these big companies always cheep out on thermal compound *cough Intel*. It's 21 screws, pop a few connectors, then the board comes out. Clean the old pink goo off, replace with good stuff (I use Arctic MX-4). So far seems ok, still noticed the retention but I'm hoping it will disappear.
Sounds like LCD displays are prone to getting hot which contributes to the image retention. I'm not an expert though, just what I read.
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Have you tried this method?
This method removes the retention ? percent ?

maxi65 said:
Have you tried this method?
This method removes the retention ? percent ?
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I did. So far nothing changed. I used MX-4 thermal paste which has never disappointed. I will give it a few days, see what happens.

bond32 said:
I did. So far nothing changed. I used MX-4 thermal paste which has never disappointed. I will give it a few days, see what happens.
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May be Your paste has made this method useless for your phone because for most of the people it worked

DaVinniCode said:
Thanks for that fix. I had read another fix had to do with physically replacing the thermal past inside the screen. This was much easier, but I am curious as to why this works. And will there be any consequence? Will it use more power or anything like that? The only value that was far from default was Hue.
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bond32 said:
I actually looked into this and did it myself. Was quite easy as long as you're comfortable with tiny screws and parts. As far as phones go, there certainly isn't and probably never will be an easier phone to repair...
Took mine apart, saw a Reddit post about the thermal paste issue. It doesn't surprise me, these big companies always cheep out on thermal compound *cough Intel*. It's 21 screws, pop a few connectors, then the board comes out. Clean the old pink goo off, replace with good stuff (I use Arctic MX-4). So far seems ok, still noticed the retention but I'm hoping it will disappear.
Sounds like LCD displays are prone to getting hot which contributes to the image retention. I'm not an expert though, just what I read.
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Do you have a tutorial or couple of photos showing where exactly the CPU is? I see some silver plates on the circuit board but not sure if I need to remove any of those to reveal the chip undercover. I applied a similar fix to a V10 but this one looks different inside. I'd love to spare some of the heat too.
I did the settings suggested by OP and looks fine so far, so shokran ya habbibi!

mustasusi said:
Do you have a tutorial or couple of photos showing where exactly the CPU is? I see some silver plates on the circuit board but not sure if I need to remove any of those to reveal the chip undercover. I applied a similar fix to a V10 but this one looks different inside. I'd love to spare some of the heat too.
I did the settings suggested by OP and looks fine so far, so shokran ya habbibi!
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I didn't take any pictures. What I found was on Reddit in the LGV20 subReddit and there was a good video showing disassembly. If I find it ill link it here.
It was really easy to get to and find. 21 screws to come out then gently take out a few components. It was pretty obvious when I found the copper heatsink. Clean, reapply, reassembly.
I did actually leave my phone off one night and checked it in the morning. I didnt have any image retention at that time. After some use it came back though.
Edit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/6y63n6/_/

Just a thought. See how thin of a foam sheet you can find and try to fit it between the screen and board. :\ Im having the same issue but, it start after staying on an image for a second. I literally test how long it takes. So I wonder really how big of a role heat plays in it .

Shadow Assassin said:
Just a thought. See how thin of a foam sheet you can find and try to fit it between the screen and board. :\ Im having the same issue but, it start after staying on an image for a second. I literally test how long it takes. So I wonder really how big of a role heat plays in it .
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Did you try the settings suggested above(if you're rooted)?

The settings @maxi65 posted defiantly work. I can say with confidence, the changing of the thermal paste didn't help me. There could be other cases where it does improve things, but mine didn't change.
My v20 was pretty bad, so bad the sizes of the screen even showed image retention. I am almost out of the 1 year warranty so I am sending mine in for repair. Very odd

bond32 said:
I didn't take any pictures. What I found was on Reddit in the LGV20 subReddit and there was a good video showing disassembly. If I find it ill link it here.
It was really easy to get to and find. 21 screws to come out then gently take out a few components. It was pretty obvious when I found the copper heatsink. Clean, reapply, reassembly.
I did actually leave my phone off one night and checked it in the morning. I didnt have any image retention at that time. After some use it came back though.
Edit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/6y63n6/_/
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Thanks. I will look into it later today. After watching several tear down videos I finally spotted the pink dot right below the camera lens as I flip over the circuit board, that's where I mostly feel hot to the touch in the first place when heavy using. Cooling it down sounds like a great idea indeed.
Edit: did it and I can't tell too much of a difference. Scored 94K in Antutu, far from the 147k the day I bought this unit.
Hope it will get better by the time. At least I don't face retention anymore.

mustasusi said:
Thanks. I will look into it later today. After watching several tear down videos I finally spotted the pink dot right below the camera lens as I flip over the circuit board, that's where I mostly feel hot to the touch in the first place when heavy using. Cooling it down sounds like a great idea indeed.
Edit: did it and I can't tell too much of a difference. Scored 94K in Antutu, far from the 147k the day I bought this unit.
Hope it will get better by the time. At least I don't face retention anymore.
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Glad you dont have any retention. LG has actually already repaired & shipped mine, I sent it in on Monday. That is a bit faster than I expected. It is scheduled to be delivered Saturday.
What is weird is what they gave as the reason for repair. Has me a bit concerned because I basically voided the warranty 2 ways via root exploit and replacing the thermal paste. But it still says they repaired it rather than replacing it.
Just a heads up to others, since I bet a lot of you purchased it near release. I was very close to being out of the 1 year warranty, so if you have serious image retention/ghosting/whatever you might just bite the bullet and send it in now.

bond32 said:
Glad you dont have any retention. LG has actually already repaired & shipped mine, I sent it in on Monday. That is a bit faster than I expected. It is scheduled to be delivered Saturday.
What is weird is what they gave as the reason for repair. Has me a bit concerned because I basically voided the warranty 2 ways via root exploit and replacing the thermal paste. But it still says they repaired it rather than replacing it.
Just a heads up to others, since I bet a lot of you purchased it near release. I was very close to being out of the 1 year warranty, so if you have serious image retention/ghosting/whatever you might just bite the bullet and send it in now.
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Retention is long gone now since I applied Kcal settings - the main reason to root my device for - using Werewolf kernel along with kernel auditor. The thermal paste is a tribute of appreciation to the CPU doing an amazing job by now and deserves such care from me. I'm glad you have yours repaired though I wouldn't send it in meaning I had to disband my phone for at least a couple days due to above situation.

maxi65 said:
Assalam o alaikum!
This is for all those who are facing screen burn in in lg v20 display.
This tutorial will also increase the color vibrance of display.
The only things You gonna need are
1 a custom kernel supporting Kcal
2 kernal auditor app or Simply Color control apk
3 apply these values and use your phone for around 10 to 20 mins and screen burn in Gone (in sha Allah)
Red 240
Green 240
Blue 240
Minimum 35
Saturation 50-60 (depending upon your choice of color viberancy)
Value 130
Contrast 130
Hue 1520
Hit thanks if it helped
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What about brightness? And you are saying we should keep those settings for 20mi? On what screen -> dark or bright? Doesnt matter?
Thx for your help

netgar said:
What about brightness? And you are saying we should keep those settings for 20mi? On what screen -> dark or bright? Doesnt matter?
Thx for your help
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This setting will simply work with all Conditions

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Touchscreen and battery replacement

When I get the parts delivered I'll be doing a touchscreen and battery replacement on my TF300T. Looks a lot easier than the phones I have repaired -- more room to work -- the several videos spell it out well.
But I ask: Is it a wise idea to replace the thermal paste on the copper plate? And if so any brand recommendations or are there any incompatible thermal pastes out there to be avoided because of their composition? I notice the back of the tablet gets quite warm at times.
As for the touchscreen: I can see the screen is badly marked after close to 7 years of use. The letter "i" on the virtual keyboard is dead, and I can no longer swipe properly in twrp recovery. Swiping the wipe page will cause other partitions to be selected. Fortunately the swipe never succeeds in launching the flush or format.
Could this be a symptom of another more serious hardware issue -- the fact that the touchcreen is totally useless in twrp but only a little broken in user mode?
Thanks
Cheers

diordnAMRZAR said:
When I get the parts delivered I'll be doing a touchscreen and battery replacement on my TF300T. Looks a lot easier than the phones I have repaired -- more room to work -- the several videos spell it out well.
But I ask: Is it a wise idea to replace the thermal paste on the copper plate? And if so any brand recommendations or are there any incompatible thermal pastes out there to be avoided because of their composition? I notice the back of the tablet gets quite warm at times.
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Here we go!
Battery replacement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RF8Yp_xxcc
Touchscreen replacement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DauysmMk-7c
Wish you good luck! Please take care of correct fitting touchscreen for your tablets serial number.

ebonit said:
Here we go!
Battery replacement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RF8Yp_xxcc
Touchscreen replacement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DauysmMk-7c
Wish you good luck! Please take care of correct fitting touchscreen for your tablets serial number.
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Yeah thanks. I have seen these youtube offerings , and others. Do you have any advice about redoing the thermal paste for the processor? The tablet can get pretty warm at times.....I do not want to bork the tablet with the wrong type of thermal paste.

diordnAMRZAR said:
Yeah thanks. I have seen these youtube offerings , and others. Do you have any advice about redoing the thermal paste for the processor? The tablet can get pretty warm at times.....I do not want to bork the tablet with the wrong type of thermal paste.
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Please note, you don't need any clue because the thin copper heat sink, shown in step 1 of the video, is self-adhesive. Take off the heatsink carefully by a light spin. Some glue fixes it on the CPU. On the left and on the right site are black or grey tapes. Remove the tapes carefully. Keep all together safe during the repair.
As you can see on the video the last step will be to put the thin copper heat sink back again with a light press down. It will stick again like before.

Did you meanwhile get the touchscreen of your device replaced successfully?

PX6 cooling. Thermal pase or pad?

The factory heatsing had thermal paste.
I got a new one from seller dince i had overheat problems at summer and i used thermal paste as well.
But the px6 is not flat. It has holes and such.
So i am wondering.
Maybe a thermal pad would be better than thermal paste? If it is what thickness?

Paste has always been better with uneven surfaces.

I can understand it exactly the opposite way. Even surfaces go for paste, non even with pad.

GnFgr said:
I can understand it exactly the opposite way. Even surfaces go for paste, non even with pad.
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You may be thinking of EPOXY thermal compound, which in my opinion is garbage.
On the other hand any silicone based grease is far better at filling gaps than pads are. Most factories tend to use pads though because it's cleaner and there is less maintenance to perform on the factory assembly machines.
Good read here:
Thermal Pads vs Thermal Paste: The Best Choice for Mounting Your Heatsinks
I used to work as a construction assistant, where my primary responsibility was to level properties prior to the heavy concrete trucks laying down a level foundation. It was a tedious and taxing job, but something that is quite crucial for a building in order for it to withstand years of use and...
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I never said about epoxy based. Never.
The px6 is not only uneven but has a metal shield on top. The metal shield acts as an interference shield ( like a faraday cage maybe?) And has holes. So the surface in not only not even it is full of holes.
I am not asking about even and not, and you stand correct, in surfaces that are either even or almost paste in my mind is the way to go.
But when the gap is bigger that x what is better?
So today i cleaned the paste with isopropyl alcohol and used a good pad from gelid i think. It is rated as 15W/mK and is 0.5mm thickness.
With external temp of 5 degrees Celsius the cpu was at 78 to 80 degrees after an hour. That is with thermal paste.
With the thermal pad the temperature after an hour is 65 degrees.
The usage is exactly the same at the one hour usage.
Maybe the metallic shield has no contact with the cpu and the pad manages through the holes to have at least some contact and achieve better heat transfer?

Well... some kind of cooling is better than none, that is for sure, but heat sinks are supposed to make full and direct contact with the device and if it can't then I suggest you have mechanical issues to correct rather than thermodynamic ones.

Damn.
I am not asking what is better as a general concept. I am asking what is better for a specific use that there is a shield above the cpu and there is no direct contact.
Anyway mate forget it.

GnFgr said:
Damn.
I am not asking what is better as a general concept. I am asking what is better for a specific use that there is a shield above the cpu and there is no direct contact.
Anyway mate forget it.
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I doubt you can find many to answer a question on mounting a heat sink in such an improper fashion. Not withstanding, you seem to be convinced that the pad is the right way to go, so I'm not sure why you are asking the question in the first place.

I asked because i wanted to learn what is better. Haven't test both when i asked and thought asking in a forum might find someone that had data on it.
Sorry if i overwhelmed you.
Anyway just forget this thread to the void.
Keep on