Could be useful for security purposes or to recognize different users?
defroster said:
Could be useful for security purposes or to recognize different users?
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defroster,
I believe you'd need a very good macro lens in order for something so close up to work. I don't think there are any cellphones with good lenses (in my opinion) that are strong enough to do this.
Cheers.
Personally I´ll never use an app to scan your eye!!
plus you'd look hilarious holding your phone up 2 your eye. I do like the ACER fingerprint scan unlocker
Lol
I can imagine with my super huge universal on my eye! Hahahaha!
Yeah, digital scaner perhaps its ok but nobody will scan my eye never!
Hi there,
I do not own this phone, but the Compact version, however I have tried both models extensively. I have been VERY pleased with the phones, but when I started playing PUBG Mobile I detected something odd, that avoided me to aim properly, sometimes the touchscreen wouldn't track the touches when they are very slow or precise.
I could try this in the XZ2 (not Compact) as well, and there's definitely a problem with the screen sensitivity, I'm not sure how to define it, but it feels like a dead zone that moves with your finger. The phone will not detect small movements, kind of a precision problem. The tracking is just not good enough.
I have a video and pictures to demonstrate the issue, comparing the sensibility to my other phone (Galaxy S8):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc55o-36uC4&feature=youtu.be
And a picture:
https://imgur.com/a/LIzyV
I'm returning the phone, and I'll buy again if Sony fixes this via software (I hope they will!). I will gladly replace my S8 with this XZ2 Compact if we ignore this problem.
Comments are welcome.
Same problem with my XZ2 there's a dead zone easily noticeable when doing smalls movements on the touchscreen. FPS games are unplayables.
There's also huge imput lag like 150ms +
I will keep my XZ2 because I'm very pleased with it and I don't play games but I do not recommand this phone for gamers.
I hope it's software issue
Seb122 said:
Same problem with my XZ2 there's a dead zone easily noticeable when doing smalls movements on the touchscreen. FPS games are unplayables.
There's also huge imput lag like 150ms +
I will keep my XZ2 because I'm very pleased with it and I don't play games but I do not recommand this phone for gamers.
I hope it's software issue
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Have you tried to contact Sony support? I'm a bit frustrated, they told me to apply whatever update there is, perform a factory reset, run the device diagnostics, and if the problem persists, that means it is hardware and I should contact local support to get it repaired or exchanged. They closed my support ticket after giving that response, without waiting for my response.
They obviously didn't understand or care about the issue here. The screen diagnostics test is passed, but the issue is still there.
I don't know what to provide in order to get somebody from Sony support look at the case and evaluate escalating the ticket to whatever team that handles bugs.
This is oreo problem actually. I'm surprised not many people realize this. I'm a YouTube tech reviewer and tested many phones. So far I've encountered this problem on oneplus 5t, Huawei p20 pro, and now xz2 all on oreo.
Oreo running phones that are free from this problem is s9, mi mix 2s, pixel 2 xl (though it has multi touch problem)
Allesa said:
This is oreo problem actually. I'm surprised not many people realize this. I'm a YouTube tech reviewer and tested many phones. So far I've encountered this problem on oneplus 5t, Huawei p20 pro, and now xz2 all on oreo.
Oreo running phones that are free from this problem is s9, mi mix 2s, pixel 2 xl (though it has multi touch problem)
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So do you think this could be a software problem? If that's the case this may be solved with software update.
Has someone contacted and received an oficial comfirmation from oneplus, Huawei or Sony that they are aware of the problem? If it happens only on oreo maybe someone with technical knowledge can ask on google android forums.
Allesa said:
This is oreo problem actually. I'm surprised not many people realize this. I'm a YouTube tech reviewer and tested many phones. So far I've encountered this problem on oneplus 5t, Huawei p20 pro, and now xz2 all on oreo.
Oreo running phones that are free from this problem is s9, mi mix 2s, pixel 2 xl (though it has multi touch problem)
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I have to admit when I saw your post I thought you were confusing this problem with some input lag or delay, and was very skeptic about your opinion. My apologies, because in the afternoon I went to some tech store and confirmed what you said, you're totally right. As you mentioned, I don't understand how is not everybody talking about this! Hawei P20 = same issue, Nokia phones = same issue (but maybe less pronounced). Only Samsung, Xiaomi and LG phones were free from it.
Then I went home and started googling, and people complained about similar things on the Pixels before the 8.1 update, and in the essential phone before the 8.1, etc. so basically in those phone that have "cleaner" android or closer to AOSP. Google messed up something in 8.0, ***probably*** fixed it in 8.1, but introduced the infamous multitouch issue instead.
The puzzling thing is that the previous generation, the XZ1, doesn't have this problem. Also came out with Oreo already.
Please let us know what is the name of your YouTube channel, you earned a lot of credibility for me with a single post
Although i'm very grateful for the explanation and trying to believe it, some things don't match together.
First i have to say that also my not yet mentioned U11 does not suffer from this problem.
I also tried the honor 9 some months ago and that device had similar issues (but worse) on Android 7 and 8, no difference.
Saying that 8.1 might solve it - don't you think there is a way the manufacturers COULD do it themselves before?
Flynnchen82 said:
Although i'm very grateful for the explanation and trying to believe it, some things don't match together.
First i have to say that also my not yet mentioned U11 does not suffer from this problem.
I also tried the honor 9 some months ago and that device had similar issues (but worse) on Android 7 and 8, no difference.
Saying that 8.1 might solve it - don't you think there is a way the manufacturers COULD do it themselves before?
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You're totally right. The assumption here is that the error originated in AOSP but can be fixed by manufacturers as well, not only by Google.
Or maybe we are taking the wrong approach and it's exclusive to digitizers produced by certain manufacturer, like Synaptics, goodix, etc.
All in all, we can be 90% certain that it's a software thing. Potentially connected to some hardware choices from manufacturers, but almost definitely fixable by software, if they put the effort.
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I have to admit when I saw your post I thought you were confusing this problem with some input lag or delay, and was very skeptic about your opinion. My apologies, because in the afternoon I went to some tech store and confirmed what you said, you're totally right. As you mentioned, I don't understand how is not everybody talking about this! Hawei P20 = same issue, Nokia phones = same issue (but maybe less pronounced). Only Samsung, Xiaomi and LG phones were free from it.
Then I went home and started googling, and people complained about similar things on the Pixels before the 8.1 update, and in the essential phone before the 8.1, etc. so basically in those phone that have "cleaner" android or closer to AOSP. Google messed up something in 8.0, ***probably*** fixed it in 8.1, but introduced the infamous multitouch issue instead.
The puzzling thing is that the previous generation, the XZ1, doesn't have this problem. Also came out with Oreo already.
Please let us know what is the name of your YouTube channel, you earned a lot of credibility for me with a single post
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K2 gadgets is my YouTube channel but it is in Indonesian lol..
My wife's u11 on 8.0 suffers from this problem, but its not as pronounced. I can only experience it if I track REALLY slow and accurate, then the sudden jump in movement can be seen. not as pronounced as in the xz2.
The fact is that when we use touchscreen tester app, it detects instantly our finger touching the screen, but not detecting incremental movement after that. So I think it is not touchscreen lag. I think it's a matter of software problem, most likely a Google screw up. A driver/preference file such as this one https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-multi-touch-bug-google-pixel-2-xl-android-oreo/ may fix the whole thing.
It is like the phone intentionally disregarding slight movements on the screen as accidental swipes.
Why on earth this problem is not well known since it is happening in a lot of phones? I guess not many people move their fingers in such ways as avid fps gamers :laugh:
I have this problem too. Can't properly play Street Fighter IV CE. After 51.1.A.3.159 firmware update situation is much better but not 100% good.
Allesa said:
K2 gadgets is my YouTube channel but it is in Indonesian lol..
My wife's u11 on 8.0 suffers from this problem, but its not as pronounced. I can only experience it if I track REALLY slow and accurate, then the sudden jump in movement can be seen. not as pronounced as in the xz2.
The fact is that when we use touchscreen tester app, it detects instantly our finger touching the screen, but not detecting incremental movement after that. So I think it is not touchscreen lag. I think it's a matter of software problem, most likely a Google screw up. A driver/preference file such as this one https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-multi-touch-bug-google-pixel-2-xl-android-oreo/ may fix the whole thing.
It is like the phone intentionally disregarding slight movements on the screen as accidental swipes.
Why on earth this problem is not well known since it is happening in a lot of phones? I guess not many people move their fingers in such ways as avid fps gamers :laugh:
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I remember in the old Galaxy S2 and the likes days, had the same annoying issue.
There was an App back then that resolved the issue completely - https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga.../ref-solving-touchscreen-sensitivity-t1161262
From what I gather, the minimum threshold to register a movement is there to allow convenient "Long Press". Long press is not triggered if the user for example is scrolling through home screens, so they added the threshold. If you ask me, long press should not be part of any touch os as it slows stuff down. Apple resolved it with Force touch.... (I hate apple and iOS)
On my HTC U11 i suffer the same issues, but I don't game much so I have not tried to fix it.
Also I have not tried but, maybe you should : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=apps.redpi.touchscreenrepair&hl=en
I tried touchscreen repair app but nothing changed after calibration... I doubt about this app, it seems to be fake. How does it work to modify touchscreen attributes without root acces ?
Same here
According to this thread, the value is set by the vendor and overriding a default one set to 8dip compared to 20dip in our device. In other words ACTION_MOVE event is not generated before the touch point travels the distance value in any direction. Might be wrong, though.
I also get the issues in my XZ2
I can't write fast with my keyboard.
Keystrokes are getting lost.
Here is your fix.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/fix-touch-screen-issue-t3723717
kekistaneerefugee said:
Here is your fix.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/fix-touch-screen-issue-t3723717
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Thank you, but I need twrp or root to do this.
We don't have twrp and rooting/unlocking will kill our drm keys.
I'm not using much apps/games that requires precision, so I haven't noticed this. The only issue I had with the touchscreen of my device (XZ2c) was selecting the radio button for the APN selection of Network management settings, that required high precision, too much for such a basic action.
Has anyone tried to enable Glove mode ? It's supposed to increase sensitivity, so it might help until a better fix is found. Or actually be worse, if the phone considers "bigger fingers" and increases the dead zone.
Glove mode doesn't change the existant dead zone, was one of the first things that i tried with my xz2 compact.
Btw i got a small update (0,7mb) today but no idea what it's for. Same security level (1. April) and no change in the touchscreen behaviour.
Anyone tried the Android P beta for the XZ2 whether did they fix it?
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Anyone tried the Android P beta for the XZ2 whether did they fix it?
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I see the Android P beta thread is getting some activity, so we would be grateful if somebody paid attention to this. Thanks in advance to whoever will test it!
hi, I don't know if it's the right place, but I think there are here lots of guys who know many things about smartwatches. I've never had one, i want one, watch 4 was in my plan blood pressure is perfect because I'm hypertensive and I have to survey my BP , but autonomy make me think more. it will be a problem for me, is there an alternative ? any advice is welcome, thanks a lot. by the way, I have a Huawei p30 pro, ready to change if needed !
There are cheaper ones out there that measure bp and O2 saturation. The two critical baselines.
Looking at the choices gives me spatial disorientation
I'm interested in quality alternatives.
I wouldn't go too nuts over these devices. Start increasing your activity level with something you like to do. Swimming, water walking are excellent. Jumping rope.
Just walking or walk/jogging.
Weight lifting is an excellent cardiovascular exercise especially squats and deadlifts followed by 5-20 minutes of warm down cardio.
Some time ago I used havoc os for my old Redmi note 3. I discovered the screen stabilization feature and I was thrilled.
I actually thought this feature should exist before I discovered that it actually exists.
Now I have Redmi note 10 (mojito). I installed Havoc OS but this feature was no longer there. The only rom I found was Paranoid Android, which looks AWESOME. but they don't support Redmi Note 10 (mojito).
I know that there is an Xposed module called X Screen Stabilizer but it's very old and I couldn't make it work (I tried with LSPosed).
So if anyone knows about any custom rom that supports it, I would love to know. Of course, I prefer a well-maintained, Android 12 one. But I'm a little desperate, so I wouldn't be too picky about it.
Also if you know that X Screen Stabilizer works just fine, and I should try harder, let me know.
Interesting. I found this.
I have a standing rule when I'm playing in the real world, the phone gets put away. When $hit goes south it happens very fast, sometimes you have a fraction of a second to seconds to react appropriately. Survival may depend on it... or avoiding pain that comes in colors (trust me there is such a thing). This means when walking, standing on the street, in a vehicle, etc. You need to be aware of your surroundings even if they're are boring you to tears. You need to especially be aware of what people are doing otherwise you're an easy mark. Distraction kills.
This man was jerking around on his phone and wasn't able to block a knife attack to his neck.
Two others who weren't distracted were able to fend off this wimpy assailant a short time latter.