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Interest check: LineageOS 13.0 nightlies for Mi 4c

Hi all,
Over the past few months I have been building CyanogenMod (now LineageOS) 13.0 for my personal use. It's based off Kumajaya's sources and was roughly parallel to emfox's builds. I'm doing this because I'm dissatisfied with the stability and reliability of existing ROMs. (I can't claim that mine is any better, however it does put me in a position to debug the issues.)
This is an interest check. I am considering publishing my nightlies for people to download. I know that everyone will give a blanket "yes" to the question "should I publish my nightlies for people to download?". So instead I would like to ask:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
(Long time reader, first time poster!)

This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man

philipnzw said:
This will sound kind of cliche but , the more options , the better . Maybe some of us will find your ROM more suited to their daily use or something .
So yeah definitely share it man
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I second this! More roms/more activity keeps this device alive longer too

1. Your development wil keep this device alive longer.
2.(maybe) attract other dev/team to build rom for this device.
3.it will make your rom better,by sharing and let many people using it, will helps you find problem faster and improve it.
so yes!

Always useful to have more I have an Aqua (mi4s) and the rom scene is very poor :/ a few Libra roms do support it but in recent months even the SD card support has gone making for quite a sad outlook for the device. If there were someone building nightlies, it would be ace as from time to time you might be able to dip into the aqua stuff too and we'd all appreciate that
Whatever you decide, it's a nice thing to even consider doing for the community. You have my thanks

honestly i think Marshmallow is waste of time, most of the people are interested only in newest Android and i don't see much interest since we have official nougat ROMs from Mokee, AICP and Resurrection remix
if you want to do something different there is Nougat AOSP ROM missing, blobs from Xiaomi are already available, Nexus 5X as well, so...

more roms, more options. i want my mi4c looks better than Nexus 5X

terence.tan said:
Given the other excellent Mi 4c ROMs, including @Hikari no Tenshi's LineageOS 14.1 builds, Resurrection Remix N and Team Superluminal CM13.0, what reason would people have to use Yet Another ROM?
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It really depends on what you would have to offer. The available CM13 (or are we calling them LO13 now?) ROMs are TeamSuperluminal's and Emfox's builds which are really not actively maintained anymore, although they are pretty damn stable. Except of course the few bugs that seem to go unfixed -- the touchscreen bug, which appears to be really complicated to fix without newer Xiaomi's kernel sources, the 2% battery bug which is present in TeamSuperluminal's builds and isn't a gamebreaker, and the way the SoC uses its cores in most of the ROMs based on Kumajaya's kernel sources (always active big cores) which results in lower battery life.
If you solved some of these problems, expect users to flock to your ROM. If not, I wouldn't bother, since you'll just be flooded with requests for fixing stuff that isn't broken in the first place. In fact, expect the second even if you deliver on the first.
I don't maintain any ROMs so I'm not one to give advice, but it seems to me it's a lot of work, and that you're paid with criticism and demands for more of your time. Get in contact with a ROM author and ask them for advice on this

Thanks for the thoughts.
As far as I can figure, there are 3 things people want:
Features/being on the cutting edge
Performance
Stability/reliability
We want all 3 but unfortunately it is a trade-off. In particular it takes special effort to achieve stability when combined with the other 2.
The CM14.1 builds satisfy the people who want to live on the cutting edge. The Xceed ROM is built for speed for those who think that Snapdragon 808 should perform like the top-tier chipset that it is
But out of all the ROMs I've tried (haven't tried the CM14.1 builds yet but have tried most of the others) I've had the following stability problems:
Screen freezes, requiring reboot
Sleeps of death
Random reboots in the middle of the night (waking up at 3 a.m. to find my phone clicking at me on the "decrypt your device" screen)
Stuttering or hangups
OpenGL-based games crashing
And that's not including the well-publicised touchscreen and battery problems.
So my personal strategy is:
Marshmallow build. Sorry for those who want Nougat, but I don't consider it stable enough (yet). Plus, all the proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi are targeted at Android L, and getting them working on Android M is hard enough already...
For the kernel, track CAF closely. Probably take their Android N release on the assumption that it's stable
Use as few proprietary blobs as possible; build from CAF source where available. This is what most developers are doing already
Use the most recent proprietary MIUI vendor blobs from Xiaomi, on the assumption that they've been buillding this version of MIUI on Android L for such a long time that it's stable
Avoid importing proprietary blobs from other devices (Nexus 5X, Moto X Pure etc.) where possible for licensing reasons. I don't intend to try and make this an offical LineageOS build, but this might be important for whoever attempts in future...
All this is difficult and @ketut.kumajaya and friends put in some impressive hacks to get it to work in the first place. I can't promise that I can build on this! But if I ever get to a stage where it's fit for consumption, I'll publish something...

in my opinion this will be great for development on Libra devices, i think Nougat rom with clean source will be great for user like me sir. For now iam using RR Nougat and for me its stable for daily use, if we can make Libra official for Lineage it can open other rom change to get official build too. Best luck for you sir and cant wait for your contribution

Closest to stock stable Nougat for XT1224

Hello guys,
I have a Droid Turbo with an unlocked bootloader, and I was looking for the overall best Nougat rom in terms of simplicity (I'd like AOSP/CM, but since there's none available, the closest one will do it ) and I'm also looking for stability and decent battery life. I have no interest in fancy/extra features, I just wish to have a smooth experience.
Any suggestions?
Thank you in advance

Here's the three best Nougat ROMs:
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
Go to those threads and see if they have the lack of features, lack of options you are looking for. All have gotten very good reviews and you are not forced to use features you don't want. You do realize that, right? (I'm still on Marshmallow Resurection Remix 6.0.1 for me and my wife, and 2/3 of the stuff is turned off. However, I love the 1/3 of the featueres I am using!)
But the unofficial LOS/CM14 has the "least" features of the three.
There was briefly an AOSP Nougat ROM -- but it got removed from the forum. The features list was copied from another device, it didn't even have Quark Ambient Display (which responds to the IR sensors like Moto Display), and the dev was unresponsive. Then it disappeared...

fedecape said:
Hello guys,
I have a Droid Turbo with an unlocked bootloader, and I was looking for the overall best Nougat rom in terms of simplicity (I'd like AOSP/CM, but since there's none available, the closest one will do it
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ChazzMatt said:
There was briefly an AOSP Nougat ROM -- but it got removed from the forum. The features list was copied from another device, it didn't even have Quark Ambient Display (which responds to the IR sensors like Moto Display), and the dev was unresponsive. Then it disappeared...
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Looks like the AOSP ROM is back -- supposedly with QUARK Ambient Display restored.
[ROM][All Quarks][7.1.1_r25][OFFICIAL] AOSPExtended ROM V3.3 [OMS/DUI]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v3-3-t3569820
As it's now back "brand new", it's not yet in the "best of" Nougat ROM list like those above just because there's no track record yet. But it's AOSP like you asked for...
EDIT: seems like hotspot/tethering doesn't work on this ROM nor the other ROM by this dev. He doesn't own this device anymore, he says, so he's having some problems fixing bugs.

What are some good recommended custom ROMs for this phone?

Hello, I'm completely new to flashing on custom roms, but I recently purchased a Redmi Note 7 Pro with the full intent to flash on something better than the China MIUI rom.
However now that i'm finally allowed to unlock my bootloader, there are a lot more custom roms to choose from in the dev subforum for this phone, and I have absolutely no idea how to tell which one is right for me.
Originally I liked the sound of Oxygen OS for being almost entirely 'stock android' with a few good additions, but then became interested in LineageOS, which also seems to be largely stock android with some improvements, and the most well know community custom rom.
So I guess what I'm looking for is a clean "like-stock" rom with a good amount of customization so I can change things to my preference, but this being my first time ever flashing a custom rom, I would also appreciate stability and security.
Pretty much all of the roms ported in the dev subforum look like they're either modified versions of LineageOS, or based on AOSP.
Should I just play it safe and go with LineageOS, do the LineageOS based roms offer enough good improvements to try one of them instead, or should I look into one of the non-LineageOS AOSP roms?
Or if the "best option" is to try them for myself to see which one I like, is jumping between different roms easy to do, and will I lose any userdata doing so?
Some more info if it helps at all:
My previous phone was a Galaxy S4 running Android 5.0.1, so pretty much any custom rom will feel new and different to me.
Some of the things that bothered me about MIUI was the removal of the App folder/drawer and how notifications for things like emails seemed very delayed and arrived in annoying bursts.
I also disliked how the app vault was filled with crap, seemed pretty uncustomizable, and also can't be disabled in favor of wrap-around pages.
Any help with information on or deciding between custom roms is greatly appreciated!

Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.

LonesomeTiger said:
Try the crDroid official rom posted on this forum. It's based on Lineage os but comes with a lot of custiomizations and performance improvements.
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Wow, I just properly read into crDroid, and it sounds like it's only got improvements and more customization options over LineageOS.
I was worried that because it was largely based on another custom rom, it might be less secure and stable or be based on an older version.
But they claim that stability and security are a main goal of theirs, and that they try to keep up with LineageOS's source.
crDroid sound perfect, thanks so much!

Which rom is the most popular? (Poll)

I was wondering what the most popular ROM was and in general what are ROM usage stats.
Currently I've been using CrDroid but I keep eyeing other ROMs so this might help me jump ship and try something new

Why are there not a choice of Arrow OS, maintained by lovely @TH779 ? It's stable and updates frequently, and it has been on the top of roms forums recently. I strongly condemn this behavior of ignoring contributions of some hardworking maintainers.

It wasn't the point to ignore any rom, I tried to add as many as I could but this was the limit allowed. Can't add anymore

GameNCode said:
It wasn't the point to ignore any rom, I tried to add as many as I could but this was the limit allowed. Can't add anymore
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Jan 17, 2021 at 2:04 PM
MSM Xtended rom has been discontinued

Pixel experience, too. There isn't a public LTS copy of PE now.

Msmx here. I know about is discontinued, but for me the 5th January build is perfect.

NOSS8 said:
Jan 17, 2021 at 2:04 PM
MSM Xtended rom has been discontinued
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usamoi said:
Pixel experience, too. There isn't a public LTS copy of PE now.
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Should I remove both and add Arrow OS?
Edit: NVM can't change the poll

I do love LineageOS and it's so much easier to spell than when it was called cyanogenmod. Though I always found the lack of customizations a let down, such as just battery bar settings and back button kill among other things. I found CrDroid is basically similar, but has these options built in along with signature spoofing that LineageOS doesn't have either. So I've stuck wit CrDroid lately and it's been great

birleytweet said:
I do love LineageOS and it's so much easier to spell than when it was called cyanogenmod. Though I always found the lack of customizations a let down, such as just battery bar settings and back button kill among other things. I found CrDroid is basically similar, but has these options built in along with signature spoofing that LineageOS doesn't have either. So I've stuck wit CrDroid lately and it's been great
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ANCIENT OS have more options especially AOD brigtness setting(like MS EXTENTED).

As I was already on MiUi 12 Android 11 on Stock until I unlocked the bootloader, previously, so I was only looking for a stable A11 AOSP based ROMs.
I literally kicked the tyres on every one of them here and...
Forgetting the subjective, personal, opinion-based customisation & theming, things I have to say that...
Ancient ROM is head & shoulders above everything else here in terms of stability, the usual custom-rom bugs, things not working etc.
In all honesty, I've found Ancient Official to be more stable & bug-free than stock MiUi 12(Although that's not hard is it?!)
I've always been a happy user of RR or Havoc on most of my devices for many years & been flashing custom roms almost 10yrs, if that helps getting my perspective, but most of the ROMs on herefor our device(even official)have been a bit of a mess frankly...
By all means if you want, kick the tyres like I did, but I wouldn't waste your time.
My only quibble is that, currently, Ancient only comes with GAPPS pre-installed & there's no Vanilla version, so I had a bit of de-bloating to do after flashing...

Question Which is the best performance roms for OP 9?

I wonder what is the best room for performance in OP9 even optimization?

There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.

Stock rom

Debloated OOS and some magisk mod tweaks.

I've tested custom rom my choice is Syberia

Stock or AOSPA imo

OOS

*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.

Vmo x said:
*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.
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thank you!

Vmo x said:
There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.
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Exactly this. They're all pretty great.
For A12, any ROM with OOSCAM and a current security update is amazing.
For A13, ElytraOS is very impressive, and the maintainer is very active in what feedback is given. StagOS As well, but that maintainer is/was supporting A12 and 13 while ElytraOS came in on A13, so has just had more time to focus just on it. Both are great.
And now with Syberia (one of my favorite OP6 roms) on the scene, It seems you literally can't pick incorrectly, all are winners.
All my issues have always come from incorrect OOS update prior to flashing a ROM (see: PEBKAC), Android and/or its various changes itself effecting the Apps I use itself or an underlining bug that's from lineage (that all start with as a base, at least on every OP devices I've run with an android OS) that's out of the maintainers control.
For now, I'm back on Pixel Experience A12, but will return to A13 ROMs once it matures a little further and apps stabilize on it (preferably one with Google AI call screening enabled by default.)
I'd also take note of the few ROMs that offer vanilla builds that allow you to manage your own exposure to GApps, or none at all (ex: CRDroid)

jmadiaga said:
OOS
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OOS13 is so damn beautiful but hate the idea of trying to root, remove bloat/spyware, optimize it all while in Beta.
I need to try it at least once for a week or so.

nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.

jmadiaga said:
nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.
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im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.

applyscience said:
im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.
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ikr
but i can only spek fom my experience.