Tool to load Virtual Machines on RT? - Windows RT Development and Hacking

Someone previously made a post on virtual machines for RT, has anybody got the idea of porting maybe virtualbox to the RT? or another lightweight VM program. Atleast we could be able to run a very lightweight linux, maybe even windows so we can run exe files.

spyroz540 said:
Someone previously made a post on virtual machines for RT, has anybody got the idea of porting maybe virtualbox to the RT? or another lightweight VM program. Atleast we could be able to run a very lightweight linux, maybe even windows so we can run exe files.
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Virtualbox is too resource intensive to run on RT (even if we could it only supports ARM64).
You are probably thinking of when Bochs was ported and you could somewhat run Windows 95.
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Windows Emulator for Android

Hello,
can i simulate Windows with an Emulator on an Android tab ( eg. the Samsung Galaxy tab ) ?
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Matthias
STF-DIR said:
Hello,
can i simulate Windows with an Emulator on an Android tab ( eg. the Samsung Galaxy tab ) ?
Thanks
Matthias
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Has no one an idea ?
Matthias
I think you can, google it to find right app.
Hello,
i have tried google to find a app for that, but wth no result.
Kan you tell me a name of an app for emulating windows on an android tablet?
Thanks
Matthias
windows emulator are on android market..
hmm interesting im gonna have to look into this
kuceens007 said:
windows emulator are on android market..
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In fact I saw this emulator in market and try to find an answer here.
Just wonder whether it allows me to install a program which runs on my old windows 95 or 98...
In other words, can I install .exe software on it?
Thanks!
Some?
I have seen some do it but not well.
I think you can start Ubuntu and Windows 95 or 98 google it I've seen some Nexuses One running Ubuntu, Debian etc.
Its easier to run ubuntu than windows
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kuceens007 said:
Its easier to run ubuntu than windows
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Ya it is much easier to run ubuntu or debian do to the fact that android is already a linux distribution, and ubuntu and debian both support arm processors standard which is what android phones use. Also in order to emulate windows you would have to emulate the intel cpu and that would make things unbairably slow, to the point of being almost unfunctionable.
Hope that helps
CAPN MORGAN said:
Ya it is much easier to run ubuntu or debian do to the fact that android is already a linux distribution, and ubuntu and debian both support arm processors standard which is what android phones use. Also in order to emulate windows you would have to emulate the intel cpu and that would make things unbairably slow, to the point of being almost unfunctionable.
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I allready tried win emu on dhd,it was fast but not good looking as ubuntu.i will try ubuntu because i have usb host for dhd
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Hi, been looking for emulators to isntall som legacy games ( civ 2 etc) any suggestions?
Anyone got suggestions? been looking for ages but nothing yet. Haven't been able to find something userfriendly.
I'm new to androids but I think you could always try to install Ubuntu then Wine to run some windows app's.. but you'd need pretty powerfull machine and quite luck to achieve that.
nekyo said:
I'm new to androids but I think you could always try to install Ubuntu then Wine to run some windows app's.. but you'd need pretty powerfull machine and quite luck to achieve that.
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Wine is not an emulator, it only translates some platform-dependent things so windows app can run on Linux. As a result wine can only run on x86 architecture. To run windows on ARM android there are many x86 emulator available but of course the performance is not very satisfying. Windows 98 or below can run although with a bit slow. windows XP and later is much heavier so you can't run it in an emulator with acceptable speed
Linux have distros for ARM so it's much easier to install
with devices like s4 and xz is it still too hard to run win 7 in an emulator? win 8 has arm support
STF-DIR said:
Hello,
can i simulate Windows with an Emulator on an Android tab ( eg. the Samsung Galaxy tab ) ?
Thanks
Matthias
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Rooting and adb phones with Surface?

Is it possible to root phones and use adb or are we waiting for the Surface pro to do that.
you're going to need surface pro (or any x86/64 based hardware) to run adb unless the tools are recompiled for arm and released in the windows store.
adiliyo said:
you're going to need surface pro (or any x86/64 based hardware) to run adb unless the tools are recompiled for arm and released in the windows store.
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How about a virtual environment?
i don't think windows RT can run a virtual environment, but i'm not sure, as i haven't tried to do something like that
adiliyo said:
i don't think windows RT can run a virtual environment, but i'm not sure, as i haven't tried to do something like that
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Would be awesome if you could
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you could always have a pc running windows 8 pro then remote desktop to it. the metro rdp client is really cool and support multi touch etc so just like using it on your surface and as its metro you can run side by side etc.
mh some found a way??
it would be really awesome if someone can recompile adb for Win 8 RT.
If someone can tell me how this will work i'll do it. The Software for this i allready have. For developing and for publishing in the Store.
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mh some found a way??
it would be really awesome if someone can recompile adb for Win 8 RT.
If someone can tell me how this will work i'll do it. The Software for this i allready have. For developing and for publishing in the Store.
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Can't be built in visual studio apparently. Relies on cygwin.
And having the software for developing and publishing in the store is useless. You need the source code which anyone who has the skill to actually do the port can obtain (it is all open source). It isnt something that someone can just tell you how to do, if they could tell you how to do it they would have done it themselves.
not possible on RT. you can't open .exe files (adb.exe, fastboot.exe, ..)..
unbenannt said:
not possible on RT. you can't open .exe files (adb.exe, fastboot.exe, ..)..
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Errm, yes you can, you just cant open exe files compiled for x86. You can open exe files for ARM no problem.... adb.exe may be for x86, but your statement was that you cant open an exe file on RT which is entirely false.
ah ok i meant x86 of course sorry for misleading information..

start menu

Is there a way i can add the start menu on my rt, I installed pokki my desktop running windows 8,but cant seem to install on my rt.
ha, nope sorry buddy! windows RT is completely different to windows 8, RT is using a ARM processor 'tegra 3' this means the software will have to be made for an arm CPU, that's why it won't work on your rt device. this is also why there is a marketplace for downloading all of your apps....
sorry.
ssfirme said:
Is there a way i can add the start menu on my rt, I installed pokki my desktop running windows 8,but cant seem to install on my rt.
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you can jailbreak your device using this and then run classic start menu from here. works perfectly on my surface rt
Dane, you're actually incorrect... there's a hack available (on this very site, even), commonly referred to as a "jailbreak", that allows running apps which aren't from the store, sideloaded, or from Microsoft on Windows RT. They still need to be compatible with ARM, as you say, but recent .NET apps work fine with no changes, and many C/C++ open-source apps have been recompiled.
Classic Start has been available on RT for a couple weeks now, using this method. Download the jailbreak hack, unzip it and run it, then follow the instructions. Download and install Classic Start following the instructions in the post linked from my thread, List of desktop apps for hacked RT devices, then restart Windows Explorer (or just log off and log on again) and you'll have a Start menu if you want it so badly (I don't get the fuss; on a tablet, the Start screen really is a better option IMO, but it's available).
Also, there is actually a work-in-progress hack to allow running unmodified x86 programs on RT as well, using dynamic recompilation from x86 to ARM code.
Why would you need a start menu on Rt?
You actually can... I've got 7-Zip, PuTTY, Gvim, MirandaIM, IKVM (and through it, Burp Suite and some other Java programs), Fiddler 4, Python 2.7, and some other "legacy" programs installed on my RT. I'm working on porting Chrome (it's a chrome-plated ***** of a project, if you'll excuse the terrible joke). I also temporarily install additional apps to test them out as people port them to RT. Finally, I've installed the Win86emu beta, which isn't a legacy program but is a desktop program; it's written especially for Windows RT and allows running (some) x86 legacy apps on RT directly and unmodified.
deeman said:
Why would you need a start menu on Rt?
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more of a want than need but it's a familarity thing, i'm sure.
Can I get GOM player or any good player working on RT which can support most extensions ??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Can I get GOM player or any good player working on RT which can support most extensions ??
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[Q] Re Jail Beak Win RT

I would like to start a Mission to re-jail break Windows RT. It has everything needed to run full programs, couldn't we just find and delete the files that are blocking the installation of full desktop programs.........
No. Windows RT, like Windows Phone, is compiled for the ARM architecture. "Desktop Windows Applications" are all compiled to use the x86 instruction set.

WinCE ARM apps and Surface RT (jailbroken)

I have an app (ECUTalk) that can run on both Windows x86 and ARM (WinCE). I would think that this would be easy to port over to the Windows RT device. Anyone think this would be possible?
Globalrebel said:
I have an app (ECUTalk) that can run on both Windows x86 and ARM (WinCE). I would think that this would be easy to port over to the Windows RT device. Anyone think this would be possible?
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Title is misleading.
There is a thread for port request.
It uses .net 1.x which is not exist on Windows RT, thus it can not run as-is (assuming it's a pure .net program).
No source code, no port.
WinCE and Windows are two totally different beasts. You won't ever be able to just run a WinCE app on Windows. It'll require a fair deal of reworking.
It might be possible to run ARM WinCE apps if someone ports the Shared Source Device Emulator 1.0 Microsoft has made. Though, I doubt it would be easy as that thing probably makes heavy use of x86 ASM.
You could likely use QEMU to run an x86 build of WinCE in emulation.
Another possible option would be to use the MESS emulator package. There is at least one driver that can boot Windows CE on an emulated ARM board.

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