Is it possible to root phones and use adb or are we waiting for the Surface pro to do that.
you're going to need surface pro (or any x86/64 based hardware) to run adb unless the tools are recompiled for arm and released in the windows store.
adiliyo said:
you're going to need surface pro (or any x86/64 based hardware) to run adb unless the tools are recompiled for arm and released in the windows store.
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How about a virtual environment?
i don't think windows RT can run a virtual environment, but i'm not sure, as i haven't tried to do something like that
adiliyo said:
i don't think windows RT can run a virtual environment, but i'm not sure, as i haven't tried to do something like that
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Would be awesome if you could
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you could always have a pc running windows 8 pro then remote desktop to it. the metro rdp client is really cool and support multi touch etc so just like using it on your surface and as its metro you can run side by side etc.
mh some found a way??
it would be really awesome if someone can recompile adb for Win 8 RT.
If someone can tell me how this will work i'll do it. The Software for this i allready have. For developing and for publishing in the Store.
HandyBesitzer said:
mh some found a way??
it would be really awesome if someone can recompile adb for Win 8 RT.
If someone can tell me how this will work i'll do it. The Software for this i allready have. For developing and for publishing in the Store.
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Can't be built in visual studio apparently. Relies on cygwin.
And having the software for developing and publishing in the store is useless. You need the source code which anyone who has the skill to actually do the port can obtain (it is all open source). It isnt something that someone can just tell you how to do, if they could tell you how to do it they would have done it themselves.
not possible on RT. you can't open .exe files (adb.exe, fastboot.exe, ..)..
unbenannt said:
not possible on RT. you can't open .exe files (adb.exe, fastboot.exe, ..)..
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Errm, yes you can, you just cant open exe files compiled for x86. You can open exe files for ARM no problem.... adb.exe may be for x86, but your statement was that you cant open an exe file on RT which is entirely false.
ah ok i meant x86 of course sorry for misleading information..
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Hi I'm farely new to xda (over on the Rezound forums mostly). Just recently I've been looking into tablets since my laptop died. My friend has this tablet and from what I've seen and read it's a good buy. Since im replacing my laptop with this I'd need to be able to run exe files. Is it possible to root and mod this to be able to run exe files? Or not since this a an android device? Sorry if this is a basic question again I'm new here. Thanks for help in advance
hmmmm, i dont think thats possible. Unless you install a different OS on it. But with pure android OS, i dont think so. EXE is kind of windows specific. But, what app are you trying to install using an EXE file? Im pretty sure there is an android equivelant for the app.
May have problems with it as exe is a program compiled for x86/x64, not ARM. Same reason why Windows RT & Pro aren't the same. Pro runs on x64 and can run normal exe's. RT runs on ARM and can't run native windows programs.
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May have problems with it as exe is a program compiled for x86/x64, not ARM.
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And even if it was compiled for ARM, it won't run on Android. EXE is an Windows executable and depends on the Windows runtime libraries.
It would be nice to see someone developer a full blown version of Wine for Android, or if companies like Codeweavers can make CrossOver for Android to allow the use of .exe Windows applications.
I know this is not impossible and very possible if Android is really just a Google controlled version of Linux.
My first and only paid $ purchase of Linux was Xandros 2.0 desktop OS, and one of that OS main selling features was that it had Crossover integrated into it. I could download .exe's and install them on Xandros and run Windows apps. :laugh:
You're looking at two different processor architectures on two different operating systems. You would need a whole lot more than just a crossover/wine for Android. Consider purchasing the Asus Vivo Tab (not the Vivo Tab RT) if you have to run .NET/win32/WinRT executables. Also consider if android has equivalent apps that suit your needs. What kind of Windows programs do you use?
Update:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.max2idea.android.limbo.main&hl=en
If you ran this, installed Trinux on it and ran wine/crossover (provided they even support Trinux) you MIGHT have a chance at running windows apps. But it will likely be insanely slow.
The other option is to buy a new server, install Windows Server 2008/Server 2008 R2, buy a router that supports VPN, get a really good internet service (preferably with symmetrical data rates), buy the XTraLogic RDP app for android, tunnel into your VPN from your android device, set up terminal services on Windows Server, buy one Terminal Services Client Access License, configure RemoteApp in terminal services and run the apps using XTraLogic RDP on your android from your windows server. You would have to keep the server running 24/7.
My point being, even if you could pull this off, it would be incredibly impractical. Consider alternatives, like equivalent apps for Android or an X86 tablet.
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Is there a way i can add the start menu on my rt, I installed pokki my desktop running windows 8,but cant seem to install on my rt.
ha, nope sorry buddy! windows RT is completely different to windows 8, RT is using a ARM processor 'tegra 3' this means the software will have to be made for an arm CPU, that's why it won't work on your rt device. this is also why there is a marketplace for downloading all of your apps....
sorry.
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Is there a way i can add the start menu on my rt, I installed pokki my desktop running windows 8,but cant seem to install on my rt.
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you can jailbreak your device using this and then run classic start menu from here. works perfectly on my surface rt
Dane, you're actually incorrect... there's a hack available (on this very site, even), commonly referred to as a "jailbreak", that allows running apps which aren't from the store, sideloaded, or from Microsoft on Windows RT. They still need to be compatible with ARM, as you say, but recent .NET apps work fine with no changes, and many C/C++ open-source apps have been recompiled.
Classic Start has been available on RT for a couple weeks now, using this method. Download the jailbreak hack, unzip it and run it, then follow the instructions. Download and install Classic Start following the instructions in the post linked from my thread, List of desktop apps for hacked RT devices, then restart Windows Explorer (or just log off and log on again) and you'll have a Start menu if you want it so badly (I don't get the fuss; on a tablet, the Start screen really is a better option IMO, but it's available).
Also, there is actually a work-in-progress hack to allow running unmodified x86 programs on RT as well, using dynamic recompilation from x86 to ARM code.
Why would you need a start menu on Rt?
You actually can... I've got 7-Zip, PuTTY, Gvim, MirandaIM, IKVM (and through it, Burp Suite and some other Java programs), Fiddler 4, Python 2.7, and some other "legacy" programs installed on my RT. I'm working on porting Chrome (it's a chrome-plated ***** of a project, if you'll excuse the terrible joke). I also temporarily install additional apps to test them out as people port them to RT. Finally, I've installed the Win86emu beta, which isn't a legacy program but is a desktop program; it's written especially for Windows RT and allows running (some) x86 legacy apps on RT directly and unmodified.
deeman said:
Why would you need a start menu on Rt?
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more of a want than need but it's a familarity thing, i'm sure.
Can I get GOM player or any good player working on RT which can support most extensions ??
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Can I get GOM player or any good player working on RT which can support most extensions ??
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Hello
I've been reading about jailbreak for windows rt 8.1 because I'm interested on this python for windows rt https://sellfy.com/p/vj3U/ but I read there was some developments but my question is if there is jailbreak for 8.1 rt?
And someone know if that python app would work on rt 8.0 because it dont mession the version of RT and know if this python app is like those we have on x86.
Thank you
No. It will be major news when there is.
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Hello
I've been reading about jailbreak for windows rt 8.1 because I'm interested on this python for windows rt https://sellfy.com/p/vj3U/ but I read there was some developments but my question is if there is jailbreak for 8.1 rt?
And someone know if that python app would work on rt 8.0 because it dont mession the version of RT and know if this python app is like those we have on x86.
Thank you
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You can only run desktop software on 8.0, there is no 8.1 jailbreak released yet.
It is python 2.7.3 as on x86, but its foreign function interface is broken so certain libraries do not work.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
You can only run desktop software on 8.0, there is no 8.1 jailbreak released yet.
It is python 2.7.3 as on x86, but its foreign function interface is broken so certain libraries do not work.
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so I would have to downgrade for 8.0 and some functions migth not work fine... so I think I will stay on 8.1 and using teaviewer xD
Thank you very much
Somebody has an experimental port of the FFI that should fix the issues, but I haven't had time to test it yet. But yes, until we get the jailbreak working, you would need to downgrade.
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Somebody has an experimental port of the FFI that should fix the issues, but I haven't had time to test it yet. But yes, until we get the jailbreak working, you would need to downgrade.
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Excellent news. If I could run Mercurial on my RT I would be one happy developer. I like fossil well enough, but just about everything that I've done for the past five years is on bitbucket in Hg repos.
Is this port available somewhere?
The message I received:
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Dear GoodDayToDie,
I included the libFFI port i made a while ago (if this doesn't work, please let me know because I have made 2 3 different port).
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByNfJPIJQw6hRnlPMHM3b1FFUFU/edit?usp=sharing
Cheer.
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Hi, _ctypes.pyd worked flawlessly. However, Python 2.7.3 test failed on asyncore (It passed all other tests). It could be due to my openssl port.
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LibFFI is to call a C/Java function at real-time. It allocates a memory to create a wrapper. This wrapper prepares the stack/registers according to ABI, then it calls the function and get back the results if any.
RT port is a just a source conversion from GAS's asm to ARMASM's asm. Since PC LSB bit is set under THUMB mode, I modified the wrapper's memory allocator so that it will increase address returned by VirtualAlloc by 1 (so that the wrapper can be called in THUMB.
(I ported python and posted it here under my coworker's account).
Hey, I did tried the python 27 in test mode and did signed it than, to work in Standard mode, works fine.
Is there the PIP tool ported as well ?
I have an app (ECUTalk) that can run on both Windows x86 and ARM (WinCE). I would think that this would be easy to port over to the Windows RT device. Anyone think this would be possible?
Globalrebel said:
I have an app (ECUTalk) that can run on both Windows x86 and ARM (WinCE). I would think that this would be easy to port over to the Windows RT device. Anyone think this would be possible?
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Title is misleading.
There is a thread for port request.
It uses .net 1.x which is not exist on Windows RT, thus it can not run as-is (assuming it's a pure .net program).
No source code, no port.
WinCE and Windows are two totally different beasts. You won't ever be able to just run a WinCE app on Windows. It'll require a fair deal of reworking.
It might be possible to run ARM WinCE apps if someone ports the Shared Source Device Emulator 1.0 Microsoft has made. Though, I doubt it would be easy as that thing probably makes heavy use of x86 ASM.
You could likely use QEMU to run an x86 build of WinCE in emulation.
Another possible option would be to use the MESS emulator package. There is at least one driver that can boot Windows CE on an emulated ARM board.
How can I convert an exe file to apk?
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How can I convert an exe file to apk?
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You can't. .exe is a Microsoft DOS / Windows executable. Android is a Linux based OS. The runtime environments aren't compatible so you can't just "convert" it.
Do you need to run a specific program under Android? May be there is a similar program you can use.
It is not possible.
Bad news. Android cannot be used like a windows emulator.
For someone who knows what an apk is, it's rather strange you didn't know this isn't possible. Like the other users have mentioned Android and Windows are completely different. Are you wanting Microsoft Office? Microsoft has released touch versions of Office for Android but it won't be completely full-fledged like what you get on Windows.
no you cant convert exe file to apk
these two files totally run on two different platforms/devices
the encoding is totally different