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Just thought I would make a thread comparing and compiling what people like and dislike about the latest 4.4 update for the Note 3. Personally I've found the update to be much of the same, however Samsung has made some annoying decisions too.
Likes
- Unlocking the phone is SO much faster!
- The new white icons look much better than Samsung's usual green ones.
- The new Notification shade looks more in-touch with modern Android styling.
- General speed all over.
Dislikes
- One feature of KitKat was Native Emoji support Samsung's default messaging app converts to MMS when you insert an Emoji.
- Samsung has included the most UGLY emoji's ever! These were already native on the Note 3 but I thought they would have switched to Google's.
- The fact Samsung even included a messaging app; why not just switch to Hangouts.
- The camera seems to be a bit laggier after the update, processing in dark images takes longer and is prone to blurriness.
- If you set a password or numeric code, when you unlock your phone unlike an iPhone or HTC you do not have to swipe. It goes straight to the input.
- General Samsung bloatiness and lag.
Overall I feel like KitKat has "refreshed" the Note somewhat, but I think that KitKat is not a major upgrade for the Note 3 at all, and it feels more like a .x upgrade. After using the Nexus 5, it really doesn't feel like the Note 3 is using 4.4, it feels much the same as 4.3.
Questions don't belong here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255
Dislikes:
- Not using ART (Android Runtime)
Wasn't that the biggest innovation in KitKat?
- Again Samsungs country cluttering
On the new polish ROM learning hub, Music and Bookstore not working/downloadable in Germany
- AppOPS no native support
- SDcards getting useless more and more... wonder when we will not be able to move anything there - well we still can pay 100bucks per 16Gb more storage on phone
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Flyer.michael said:
Dislikes:
- Not using ART (Android Runtime)
Wasn't that the biggest innovation in KitKat?
- Again Samsungs country cluttering
On the new polish ROM learning hub, Music and Bookstore not working/downloadable in Germany
- AppOPS no native support
- SDcards getting useless more and more... wonder when we will not be able to move anything there - well we still can pay 100bucks per 16Gb more storage on phone
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Can you not change it in Dev options?
No
ART not implemented
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Flyer.michael said:
Dislikes:
- SDcards getting useless more and more... wonder when we will not be able to move anything there - well we still can pay 100bucks per 16Gb more storage on phone
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please elaborate
Flyer.michael said:
Dislikes:
- Not using ART (Android Runtime)
Wasn't that the biggest innovation in KitKat?
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ART is still technically in beta form. Samsung will never add a beta to their final rls. If something messes up it makes them look terrible (more so than they already do..)
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What I Like:
Awesome speed and smooth.
Better Audio quality.
Finally no more ugly green icon at status bar.
Much better camera output quality especially at night shoot. Sharp and clear.
Love the new lockscreen especially the music playback button.
What I Dislike:
S View chipset detection, now only original Samsung will work, not working for counterfeit include those branded like Spigen.
Disable of ART, I know it is beta but at least let use tryout.
Is there a chance to get the stock-emojis (google) back?
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Questions don't belong here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255
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Though I see your point, I felt this is a general discussion amongst the Note 3 community. I'm inviting people to discuss what they like and do not like about the 4.4 update, though I understand the title alienates this.
Flyer.michael said:
No
ART not implemented
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'Tis a shame, though it's most likely down to the beta.
BC01 said:
Is there a chance to get the stock-emojis (google) back?
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I hope, the ones Samsung include are so ugly!
was icallstr
Like
- Better colour when using the multimedia dock
- less buggy when detecting keyboard and mouse plugged into the dock
Dislike
- Non working un-official S-View covers (forcing rip off price official ones or nothing)
- Lower gaming performance (or so the Epic Citadel benchmark shows with lower phone performance, and locked at 30fps on HDMI)
- Sort of a like in that there is now landscape support for the non Multimedia Dock screen, but a major dislike that it's still the poor chopped off bottom row implementation that 3rd parties offer, the official version should at least have a layout that fits all the icons on the screen.
- Hit and miss SD card support, I find it either works really slow when trying to access it or seemingly doesn't work at all.
I can see this firmware being followed by a stream of bug fixes as it feels very beta, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the buggy beta accidentally released.
They better not abandon sdcard support, I didn't pay extra $$$ for the Google experience!
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[*]S View chipset detection, now only original Samsung will work, not working for counterfeit include those branded like Spigen.
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WTH
Can there be a lawsuit for this destruction of functionality?
Issue on 4.4.2 KitKat ROM - What I dislike now!
Flashing kitkat now will make the external SD almost useless. You will not be able write in certain process, example moving/copying data via third party explorer, multiple photos select for deletion at QuickPic, backup using Titanium Backup. No issue save camera photos on it or play games store at SD card. This only can be fix if you root your phone and change platform.xml and once root it is confirm 100% trip the Knox. Solution for fixing this issue [FIX][LEAKED 4.4]External Sdcard Mount Perms fix - xda-developers
KitKat ROM is detecting S View Cover Chipset, only Genuine Samsung S View Flipcover will working now. All counterfeit or any branded casing including Spigen SlimArmor View will stop the S View function once update to KitKat ROM.
There will be no downgrading back to 4.3 roms anymore after update to 4.4 KitKat ROM.
Don't play play mess with Bootloader, already got few user phone completely DEAD (cannot on or detect by PC) once mess with Bootloader.
If SD card doesn't work anymore Google can go to whatever, now I will need to block any possibility of this getting on my phone ever. I never thought I may start thinking if Windows phone wouldn't be an option for me in the future. One Crapple is enough on the phone market.
pete4k said:
If SD card doesn't work anymore Google can go to whatever, now I will need to block any possibility of this getting on my phone ever. I never thought I may start thinking if Windows phone wouldn't be an option for me in the future. One Crapple is enough on the phone market.
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Hi, I change the statement. It can read and write but not all write process.
Flashing kitkat now will make the external SD almost useless. You will not be able write in certain process, example moving/copying data via third party explorer, multiple photos select for deletion at QuickPic, backup using Titanium Backup. No issue save camera photos on it or play games store at SD card.
This is all stupid peoples fault.
if it wasn't for people being so technically inept, companies wouldn't have to cater to them by degeneratively dumbing down each and every version release.
Soon android will have no functionality, just like Apple iOS
New bootloader is required for 4.4.x is [email protected]@k joke.
-I stay away from 4.4.2 for now, wait bit longer.
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Google is slowly starting to become a joke. Deciding to only update the Nexus 5 to the new "Google Experience" launcher has majorly fragmented the feel of Android through & through. I'm also starting to find that Google apps used to be robust, they are now starting to show lack of innovation and also some bugs. Take Hangouts for example, it is not a nice application to use on the Note 3 at all.
Hi everyone,
I am using the Gear VR with my phone but for sure it lacks some features. As I see the google daydream is much interesting and I would love to try it/have the headset when iz comes out. What worries me now is if our devices (Exynos) will be supported for the daydream.
What are your toughts on this, do you think we will be able to use it?
The Pixel/XL are the first Daydream ready phones. Going by that, I assume that means that no phones before them are compatible.
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It's true but I'm also curious if it is able to work at least partially. E.g. play 3D video.
DirgeExtinction said:
The Pixel/XL are the first Daydream ready phones. Going by that, I assume that means that no phones before them are compatible.
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The google phones are the first which are officially daydream ready, but there are other earlier phones which are earlier produced and confirmed to be daydream ready like the ZTE Axon 7 and Asus Znefone 3 Deluxe. What about that fact?
Also I do not see anything better in the Pixel phones (hardware) (I have read somewhere that it has some additional sensors but I do not see them on GSMArena) which would limit our devices, so if it is just software it will be for sure accessable maybe via root if no official support is granted.
Hello Nex-Fans,
Vivo has announced the first OS update for our device which improves the overall, the game, camera and fingerprintscanner performance.
Source:
Gizchina
Thanks! I suppose we will get that automatically (when checked in update settings), but thanks anyway for notifying it here.
Despiter updates(there's even newer update than those at first page) the underscreen display scanner remain problematic according to fresh reviews from android authority.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Hopping retail unit perfom better.
Saw many reviews and tests on YouTube and nobody has mentioned such problems with the Fingerprintscanner. I think this will be a "Pre-Release-Device" problem.
paatha13 said:
Despiter updates(there's even newer update than those at first page) the underscreen display scanner remain problematic according to fresh reviews from android authority.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Hopping retail unit perfom better.
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Damn that's a really scathing review especially re. the software and OS. Makes me kind of disinterested tbh, because the UX sounds like a ****ing hassle
I'm not so negative ... In my opinion it's a very early stage of the device and i think some points are related to the Pre-Release-Device he has. On the software side i think it's only a question of time until there are some other options.
I have a Zuk Z2 Pro and know what i'm talking about. The ZUI interface was only crap but now it's running AOSP Android 8.1 and i'm really really happy with the device. It's better then my S8 was.
Yes but the kicker is as always, does the bootloader get unlocked... I don't know about Vivo and their practices on this.
I actually received my second update on my Nex already... and while the fingerprint reader can be finicky it has worked well (one thing that helped was adding both thumbs 2times)
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I actually received my second update on my Nex already... and while the fingerprint reader can be finicky it has worked well (one thing that helped was adding both thumbs 2times)
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I got the update a day or two ago as well.....
Any idea (translation) of what it actually encompassed?
only thing i have noticed a improvement on is the Fingerprint reader(seems much more consistent) , the camera seems to focus better and give slightly better results. Also the three bars at the bottom of the home screen are at the absolute bottom now and much wider.
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only thing i have noticed a improvement on is the Fingerprint reader(seems much more consistent) , the camera seems to focus better and give slightly better results. Also the three bars at the bottom of the home screen are at the absolute bottom now and much wider.
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THX!....
After you posted this,I decided to take a look in the Settings > System Update & found the update notes in English (probably translated to whatever default language you choose) & pretty much line-up with your observations/usage:
The notes may have been available in the previous updates,but,I didn't notice the little arrow to click on to read the notes (probably there all along)......
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THX!....
After you posted this,I decided to take a look in the Settings > System Update & found the update notes in English (probably translated to whatever default language you choose) & pretty much line-up with your observations/usage:
The notes may have been available in the previous updates,but,I didn't notice the little arrow to click on to read the notes (probably there all along)......
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haha yeah the arrow has been there to check the changelog but the improvements they claim are actually noticable to me at least ?
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated ?
tacopicante123 said:
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated
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I might be having one serious BLONDE MOMENT :laugh: ,but,I can't seem to find how to make the YouTube app play by default,from links in email/texts/etc.....
Again,it could just be me,the settings on this phone are convoluted,makes Huawei & Xiaomi look clean & simple by comparison.......
So,in the meantime,I'm using this default picker app to help out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith&hl=en_US
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I might be having one serious BLONDE MOMENT [emoji23] ,but,I can't seem to find how to make the YouTube app play by default,from links in email/texts/etc.....
Again,it could just be me,the settings on this phone are convoluted,makes Huawei & Xiaomi look clean & simple by comparison.......
So,in the meantime,I'm using this default picker app to help out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith&hl=en_US
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Does YouTube Vanced non root version works on Vivo Nex or not.
Have you tried it?
On my OP5T works both version(root or not root )as well 6 months now
https://vanced.azurewebsites.net/APKs?type=NONROOT
Thanks
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paatha13 said:
Does YouTube Vanced non root version works on Vivo Nex or not.
Have you tried it?
On my OP5T works both version(root or not root )as well 6 months now
https://vanced.azurewebsites.net/APKs?type=NONROOT
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Yeah, it works, but, as stated on the site, no Micro G, no log in......
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Yeah, it works, but, as stated on the site, no Micro G, no log in......
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Installing the micro g file from above link doesn’t work??
I used 0.2.4-105 version from above link and always works great.
You can try both of them providing.
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Installing the micro g file from above link doesn’t work??
I used 0.2.4-105 version from above link and always works great.
You can try both of them providing.
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Just loaded up no root Micro G, good to go, signed-in successfully.
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Just loaded up no root Micro G, good to go, signed-in successfully.
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Ok well done one less trouble with Funtouch OS hahahaha.
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tacopicante123 said:
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated
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I go back and forth seemingly daily. I lust for the hardware, it is to me the next step on the path to OLED in-display cameras, but that bizarre Android iOS clone nonsense they have going on is pushing me away. Funtouch sounds like a waking nightmare.
I currently have a Mi Mix 2, and already the rumor mill is in full swing re. the Mix 3. Google Mi Mix 3 and check out some early leaks, they are rumored to follow the Nex style. Admitted MIUI is not all that great either, but at least Xiaomi is a bit more dev friendly on releasing the kernels etc. And sorry for the hijack
am a big fan of google,knowing google has just launch google pixel 3 ,with amazing function of photography.Wondering which one to buy?Google pixel 3 or iphone 8? Any suggestion on this?main problem is worrying Andriod system app,when opening one,most of other will run as well.
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am a big fan of google,knowing google has just launch google pixel 3 ,with amazing function of photography.Wondering which one to buy?Google pixel 3 or iphone 8? Any suggestion on this?main problem is worrying Andriod system app,when opening one,most of other will run as well.
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Given the choice between a current Google device vs a current iPhone, I'd go with the android device just for the freedoms it has over iOS.
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I vote Google Pixel
I Agree with Droidriven I Phones are limited on what you can do, you have a lot more freedom with android. If you think about it everything is connected to google so why not get a google phone.
I would prefer Google as it provides good and regular google security. The camera quality of any Pixel device is always better than iPhone's camera and google is providing lot of useful stuffs in box as compare to Apple and with 83000/-.
Android all the way!
Ive always wanted to try GCam and see if its all the hype it says it is.
Is there a modded version out for the Xperia 5 III? Thanks
None of previous Xperia (for the last 3 generations at least) flagship smartphone had working Gcam. Suggest this one will be no different.
bruh how is that even possible
I've been playing with one on my 5 ii, and the results are pretty good. Not as great as I expected, but that doesn't surprise me. The Sony hardware is not optimized to work with the software, and you could probably tweak the algorithms to make it work better with the Sony hardware. But, I don't have time to tweak the hundreds of settings in the GCAM mods to see what works best.
Where you have:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
It's not close to perfect, but it works on all 3 rear cameras.
Night mode doesn't work very well because Sony only exposes expores up to 1s for external apps, and the GCam crashes when tries to use more than 1s to capture more light.
XiCO FiR3 said:
Where you have:
BSG: MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix
Download MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
It's not close to perfect, but it works on all 3 rear cameras.
Night mode doesn't work very well because Sony only exposes expores up to 1s for external apps, and the GCam crashes when tries to use more than 1s to capture more light.
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Posting a random link from a site that noone knows about is kind of sketchy.
Does the guy have some kind of XDA profile?
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Posting a random link from a site that noone knows about is kind of sketchy.
Does the guy have some kind of XDA profile?
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Sorry, for that.
This site is a place where most of GCam mods are posted, for multiple devices and from multiple Devs, instead of even sketchier telegram groups.
The link in question I posted is from bsg19071979 here on XDA.
You can check is work https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-mod-google-camera-by-b-s-g.4201665/
Unfortunately, the version I posted is the only version I found that works on my Xperia 5 III.
and can u see any difference vs the original Xperia Camera Software
and which version u using.?
Download:
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_snap.apk (org.codeaurora.snapcam) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_MGC.apk (com.android.mgc) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ENG.apk (com.google.android.GoogleCameraEng) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ruler.apk (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_scan3d.apk (com.samsung.android.scan3d) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_qcamera3.apk (org.codeaurora.qcamera3) #
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and can u see any difference vs the original Xperia Camera Software
and which version u using.?
Download:
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_snap.apk (org.codeaurora.snapcam) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_MGC.apk (com.android.mgc) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ENG.apk (com.google.android.GoogleCameraEng) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_ruler.apk (com.samsung.android.ruler) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_scan3d.apk (com.samsung.android.scan3d) #
MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1w_qcamera3.apk (org.codeaurora.qcamera3) #
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The biggest difference I can see, is in low light scenes, the google camera takes much better photos, and removes almost all the noise without losing to much detail.
In cases that the Xperia Camera clips the background, the Gcam resolves some detail in the clouds for example.
Overall I don't recommend it.
- Auto focus is it or miss.
- Touch to focus freezes the viewport.
- Video recording doesn't work.
- Selfie camera doesn't work because Sony uses a cheap Samsung sensor.
- Night mode doesn't work properly because Sony doesn't expose all the camera API properties.
- Out of the box the photos are a bit under saturated.
The diferent versions don't make any diffence in the case of the Xperia 5 III, that I know off.
Im my hold phone I needed a camera with a specific name to allow the google camera to access all the camera features in original ROM. More or less what sony does with the creator' color profile for specific apps.
and again.... which version u using....therea6 different.!
i tried the first 3 from the list and i don't like there results at all.!
DanielMode said:
and again.... which version u using....therea6 different.!
i tried the first 3 from the list and i don't like there results at all.!
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I'm using rev X of the one ending in MGC. It runs okay. A little sluggish, but I don't have crashes. I did find a profile on the web and loaded it. GCAM on the Xperia cameras is a tool, but not a perfect one. I've learned from experimentation what areas it does well and what times it doesn't. I find it hard to say if it's better or worse than the stock app because it is situation dependent. If you're looking for something that you can replace the stock app with, your expectations will not be met. However, if you're looking for an app that does better in many low light situations where you have to shoot handheld, then it will give you capability you don't have with the stock app.
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I'm using rev X of the one ending in MGC. It runs okay. A little sluggish, but I don't have crashes. I did find a profile on the web and loaded it. GCAM on the Xperia cameras is a tool, but not a perfect one. I've learned from experimentation what areas it does well and what times it doesn't. I find it hard to say if it's better or worse than the stock app because it is situation dependent. If you're looking for something that you can replace the stock app with, your expectations will not be met. However, if you're looking for an app that does better in many low light situations where you have to shoot handheld, then it will give you capability you don't have with the stock app.
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Im wondering why people search gcam for 5 iii, latest 5 iii stock camera take picture way better than my pixel 5. I love the result from my 5 iii photo.
Current devices 5 iii, android 12
riahc3 said:
Ive always wanted to try GCam and see if its all the hype it says it is.
Is there a modded version out for the Xperia 5 III? Thanks
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dude, you have an xperia 5 III with many powered features and excellent great results in the camera (photo and video modes), why want you try gcam...???!!!! i don't understand !!!
mrsyamsul said:
Im wondering why people search gcam for 5 iii, latest 5 iii stock camera take picture way better than my pixel 5. I love the result from my 5 iii photo.
Current devices 5 iii, android 12
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Disagree with X 5 III taking better photos than Pixel 5. I wish it was true so then it would be no need in Gcam. X 5 III takes good enough photos in perfect light conditions only. That's just my experience (with X 1 III though).
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Disagree with X 5 III taking better photos than Pixel 5. I wish it was true so then it would be no need in Gcam. X 5 III takes good enough photos in perfect light conditions only. That's just my experience (with X 1 III though).
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Is you use lates android 12 and latest March photography pro, even night mod on my 5 iii capture faster than my pixel 6. I don't have 1 iii so i can't make comparison. I only have 5 iii, pixel 5 and pixel 6.
mrsyamsul said:
Is you use lates android 12 and latest March photography pro, even night mod on my 5 iii capture faster than my pixel 6. I don't have 1 iii so i can't make comparison. I only have 5 iii, pixel 5 and pixel 6.
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I don't like the quality output straight out of camera. Photos come out underexposed, out of focus, lack of clarity and lack of HDR too often.
WarVic[NZ] said:
I don't like the quality output straight out of camera. Photos come out underexposed, out of focus, lack of clarity and lack of HDR too often.
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Ohh I'm sorry to hear that.none that happen to my Xperia 5 III devices. You may want to get new phone and forget about your 1 III already.
mrsyamsul said:
Ohh I'm sorry to hear that.none that happen to my Xperia 5 III devices. You may want to get new phone and forget about your 1 III already.
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This is exactly what I did! I 'm really happy that I was able to get rid of that overpriced, overhyped device. Certainly it is not worth even $800 to my opinion. Just because of underwhelming camera performance alone.
I currently have a Pixel 4a and an Xperia 5 iii. The difference in low light scenes is astonishingly in the Pixel's favor. During the day I really like the Xperia's colors and having multiple zoom levels is great too. But in poor light the $349 Pixel cleans the Xperia's clock. Sure, with a tripod and a static scene I could get a better result on the 5 iii perhaps but in most situations it's not close. Google has bottled smoke or something.