What do you like/dislike about 4.4 for the Note 3? - Galaxy Note 3 General

Just thought I would make a thread comparing and compiling what people like and dislike about the latest 4.4 update for the Note 3. Personally I've found the update to be much of the same, however Samsung has made some annoying decisions too.
Likes
- Unlocking the phone is SO much faster!
- The new white icons look much better than Samsung's usual green ones.
- The new Notification shade looks more in-touch with modern Android styling.
- General speed all over.
Dislikes
- One feature of KitKat was Native Emoji support Samsung's default messaging app converts to MMS when you insert an Emoji.
- Samsung has included the most UGLY emoji's ever! These were already native on the Note 3 but I thought they would have switched to Google's.
- The fact Samsung even included a messaging app; why not just switch to Hangouts.
- The camera seems to be a bit laggier after the update, processing in dark images takes longer and is prone to blurriness.
- If you set a password or numeric code, when you unlock your phone unlike an iPhone or HTC you do not have to swipe. It goes straight to the input.
- General Samsung bloatiness and lag.
Overall I feel like KitKat has "refreshed" the Note somewhat, but I think that KitKat is not a major upgrade for the Note 3 at all, and it feels more like a .x upgrade. After using the Nexus 5, it really doesn't feel like the Note 3 is using 4.4, it feels much the same as 4.3.

Questions don't belong here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255

Dislikes:
- Not using ART (Android Runtime)
Wasn't that the biggest innovation in KitKat?
- Again Samsungs country cluttering
On the new polish ROM learning hub, Music and Bookstore not working/downloadable in Germany
- AppOPS no native support
- SDcards getting useless more and more... wonder when we will not be able to move anything there - well we still can pay 100bucks per 16Gb more storage on phone
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Flyer.michael said:
Dislikes:
- Not using ART (Android Runtime)
Wasn't that the biggest innovation in KitKat?
- Again Samsungs country cluttering
On the new polish ROM learning hub, Music and Bookstore not working/downloadable in Germany
- AppOPS no native support
- SDcards getting useless more and more... wonder when we will not be able to move anything there - well we still can pay 100bucks per 16Gb more storage on phone
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Can you not change it in Dev options?

No
ART not implemented
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Flyer.michael said:
Dislikes:
- SDcards getting useless more and more... wonder when we will not be able to move anything there - well we still can pay 100bucks per 16Gb more storage on phone
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please elaborate

Flyer.michael said:
Dislikes:
- Not using ART (Android Runtime)
Wasn't that the biggest innovation in KitKat?
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ART is still technically in beta form. Samsung will never add a beta to their final rls. If something messes up it makes them look terrible (more so than they already do..)
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What I Like:
Awesome speed and smooth.
Better Audio quality.
Finally no more ugly green icon at status bar.
Much better camera output quality especially at night shoot. Sharp and clear.
Love the new lockscreen especially the music playback button.
What I Dislike:
S View chipset detection, now only original Samsung will work, not working for counterfeit include those branded like Spigen.
Disable of ART, I know it is beta but at least let use tryout.

Is there a chance to get the stock-emojis (google) back?

androidlover287 said:
Questions don't belong here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481255
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Though I see your point, I felt this is a general discussion amongst the Note 3 community. I'm inviting people to discuss what they like and do not like about the 4.4 update, though I understand the title alienates this.
Flyer.michael said:
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ART not implemented
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'Tis a shame, though it's most likely down to the beta.
BC01 said:
Is there a chance to get the stock-emojis (google) back?
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I hope, the ones Samsung include are so ugly!

was icallstr
Like
- Better colour when using the multimedia dock
- less buggy when detecting keyboard and mouse plugged into the dock
Dislike
- Non working un-official S-View covers (forcing rip off price official ones or nothing)
- Lower gaming performance (or so the Epic Citadel benchmark shows with lower phone performance, and locked at 30fps on HDMI)
- Sort of a like in that there is now landscape support for the non Multimedia Dock screen, but a major dislike that it's still the poor chopped off bottom row implementation that 3rd parties offer, the official version should at least have a layout that fits all the icons on the screen.
- Hit and miss SD card support, I find it either works really slow when trying to access it or seemingly doesn't work at all.
I can see this firmware being followed by a stream of bug fixes as it feels very beta, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the buggy beta accidentally released.

They better not abandon sdcard support, I didn't pay extra $$$ for the Google experience!

Andrewtst said:
[*]S View chipset detection, now only original Samsung will work, not working for counterfeit include those branded like Spigen.
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WTH

Can there be a lawsuit for this destruction of functionality?

Issue on 4.4.2 KitKat ROM - What I dislike now!
Flashing kitkat now will make the external SD almost useless. You will not be able write in certain process, example moving/copying data via third party explorer, multiple photos select for deletion at QuickPic, backup using Titanium Backup. No issue save camera photos on it or play games store at SD card. This only can be fix if you root your phone and change platform.xml and once root it is confirm 100% trip the Knox. Solution for fixing this issue [FIX][LEAKED 4.4]External Sdcard Mount Perms fix - xda-developers
KitKat ROM is detecting S View Cover Chipset, only Genuine Samsung S View Flipcover will working now. All counterfeit or any branded casing including Spigen SlimArmor View will stop the S View function once update to KitKat ROM.
There will be no downgrading back to 4.3 roms anymore after update to 4.4 KitKat ROM.
Don't play play mess with Bootloader, already got few user phone completely DEAD (cannot on or detect by PC) once mess with Bootloader.

If SD card doesn't work anymore Google can go to whatever, now I will need to block any possibility of this getting on my phone ever. I never thought I may start thinking if Windows phone wouldn't be an option for me in the future. One Crapple is enough on the phone market.

pete4k said:
If SD card doesn't work anymore Google can go to whatever, now I will need to block any possibility of this getting on my phone ever. I never thought I may start thinking if Windows phone wouldn't be an option for me in the future. One Crapple is enough on the phone market.
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Hi, I change the statement. It can read and write but not all write process.
Flashing kitkat now will make the external SD almost useless. You will not be able write in certain process, example moving/copying data via third party explorer, multiple photos select for deletion at QuickPic, backup using Titanium Backup. No issue save camera photos on it or play games store at SD card.

This is all stupid peoples fault.
if it wasn't for people being so technically inept, companies wouldn't have to cater to them by degeneratively dumbing down each and every version release.
Soon android will have no functionality, just like Apple iOS

New bootloader is required for 4.4.x is [email protected]@k joke.
-I stay away from 4.4.2 for now, wait bit longer.
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Google is slowly starting to become a joke. Deciding to only update the Nexus 5 to the new "Google Experience" launcher has majorly fragmented the feel of Android through & through. I'm also starting to find that Google apps used to be robust, they are now starting to show lack of innovation and also some bugs. Take Hangouts for example, it is not a nice application to use on the Note 3 at all.

Related

multi screen questions

Hey, I know its kinda early as most of you probably don't even have the note yet, but I was curious on how the multiscreen feature works. Can you use it with any app or just Samsung's special apps. Also is the feature packaged as an apk in system app files as to have the possibility of being pulled from the note and ported to other tablets. Thanks, and enjoy your new tablets.
lamboboy732 said:
Hey, I know its kinda early as most of you probably don't even have the note yet, but I was curious on how the multiscreen feature works. Can you use it with any app or just Samsung's special apps. Also is the feature packaged as an apk in system app files as to have the possibility of being pulled from the note and ported to other tablets. Thanks, and enjoy your new tablets.
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As for now, it only works with Samsung Apps.
Maybe a custom Rom can change that, or a root app.
I was wondering this as well. I'm hoping there will be some way for third party apps to make use of it, but I'm thinking that's probably a pipe dream.
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Its a great feature but only works for samsung apps sadly
To make it useable for other apps, Google would need to amend Android to support a virtual split screen. As long as split screen is not part of the OS itself, it will remain a specific solution.
I think the apps that in the multi screen is quite good, you have the snote, internet, polaris and email.
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To all that would like to see this in non Samsung apps: send a question to @Samsung-dev twitter asking them to publish an API for this. It may not help but it cant hurt. I for one would love to see a published API for this and the mini apps. They have one For S-Pen, why not for these features also. Should be a value add for their tablet if there were community apps that could use this stuff.
Thanks was wondering about adding apps with UEALI3. Would have been great to add ezPDF to it.
This ability is part of the touch wiz interface.. Its a propitiatory patented framework Samsung will not share it with anyone. Trying to port it can cause severe security issues as this is based on pop up notifications. This is the reason the cornerstone split screen software has not went very far.There was a big write up about this and the cornerstone software on xda tv months back. I looked and cant find it
Currently on ics it's only possible with samsung apps. But as seen with the Jelly Bean updates in India it's going to change to all apps.
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Can someone who has it already tell us how the look and feel is for the split screen.
I'm thinking about buying it to replace my 8.9 tab
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Will we see expanded multi screen capabilities similar to the Note 2

I know no one has a crystal ball, but I wondered if anyone had seen or heard anything about expanded multi screen capabilities. The Note 2 allows gmail, chrome, YouTube, Facebook, twitter and more to be split screen. I would love that even more on our device, what with the bigger screen.
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Not for sure but I would guess that will come with the jb upgrade
many are using the beta update can anyone confirm the same being present ?? I think most of the updates seen in note2 should come but after a certain period of time
Paul obrien has posted the modifications to insert in the applications code to make them work in note2 multiview. Do you know if the same code can be used to make them work in multiscreen on the note 10.1??? Thanks!

Sketchbook from Note3

Just found a thread in N7000 forum with the app extracted from Note3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444504. Checked, it works on N5100.
Awesome. Works on the N5110 also.
Is there a difference between this version a the SketchbookPro for Note available on Samsung Apps?
hhrun88 said:
Is there a difference between this version a the SketchbookPro for Note available on Samsung Apps?
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could be the same - I have no idea - due to my exceptional and outstanding lack of any graphical skills the app is already uninstalled, just thought I'll share it, seeing quite an interest in graphic apps here...
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Is there a difference between this version a the SketchbookPro for Note available on Samsung Apps?
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functionally they seem to be the same. there are some ui differences that can speed up usage (or slow you down depending on your usage needs). the dropdowns are a bit smaller and more "pen frielndly" , but they've also moved some of the tools into a dropdown. either would be fine as i don't see the changes are "magical" and not really essential, but i think the samsung version is a bit more style.

Galaxy S4 Android 4.3 Features (Video)

Here is a quick run down of the key features of the new Android 4.3 Galaxy S4 update, one thing though anyone that's used it noticed the launcher draws slower now? Maybe just me.
androidizen said:
Here is a quick run down of the key features of the new Android 4.3 Galaxy S4 update, one thing though anyone that's used it noticed the launcher draws slower now? Maybe just me.
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Nice review like your accent, your native lang is english?
androidizen said:
Here is a quick run down of the key features of the new Android 4.3 Galaxy S4 update, one thing though anyone that's used it noticed the launcher draws slower now? Maybe just me.
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I agree, the app drawer launch effect looks much slower.
GOLF and 360 Panorama in camera??
I just wished to ask if the Camera of the S4 has been updated with the GOLF and the 360 photosphere camera mode??
please reply...eagerly awaiting
regards,
achyut.
Is the screen/text noticeably sharper or is that just minor
Does the stock browser hide the status bar in full-screen mode like the S3 did? (Stupid regression there).
I'm also curious if the 360 and Golf modes are in the camera.
You're taking about leak version.
The best reason for use TW is the camera, and nobody talks about it in the 4.3 posts!!!!
The camera is the only good reason for me to stay on stockrom.
Everything else of samsung either useless or way too much. Nobody needs all this features. Especially when the rom is thrice the size of stock android :/
NOTHING about the gt-i9500???? I'd rather stay with my razr hd, instead this mess!
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First update from Vivo

Hello Nex-Fans,
Vivo has announced the first OS update for our device which improves the overall, the game, camera and fingerprintscanner performance.
Source:
Gizchina
Thanks! I suppose we will get that automatically (when checked in update settings), but thanks anyway for notifying it here.
Despiter updates(there's even newer update than those at first page) the underscreen display scanner remain problematic according to fresh reviews from android authority.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Hopping retail unit perfom better.
Saw many reviews and tests on YouTube and nobody has mentioned such problems with the Fingerprintscanner. I think this will be a "Pre-Release-Device" problem.
paatha13 said:
Despiter updates(there's even newer update than those at first page) the underscreen display scanner remain problematic according to fresh reviews from android authority.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Hopping retail unit perfom better.
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Damn that's a really scathing review especially re. the software and OS. Makes me kind of disinterested tbh, because the UX sounds like a ****ing hassle
I'm not so negative ... In my opinion it's a very early stage of the device and i think some points are related to the Pre-Release-Device he has. On the software side i think it's only a question of time until there are some other options.
I have a Zuk Z2 Pro and know what i'm talking about. The ZUI interface was only crap but now it's running AOSP Android 8.1 and i'm really really happy with the device. It's better then my S8 was.
Yes but the kicker is as always, does the bootloader get unlocked... I don't know about Vivo and their practices on this.
I actually received my second update on my Nex already... and while the fingerprint reader can be finicky it has worked well (one thing that helped was adding both thumbs 2times)
MixEvo said:
I actually received my second update on my Nex already... and while the fingerprint reader can be finicky it has worked well (one thing that helped was adding both thumbs 2times)
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I got the update a day or two ago as well.....
Any idea (translation) of what it actually encompassed?
only thing i have noticed a improvement on is the Fingerprint reader(seems much more consistent) , the camera seems to focus better and give slightly better results. Also the three bars at the bottom of the home screen are at the absolute bottom now and much wider.
MixEvo said:
only thing i have noticed a improvement on is the Fingerprint reader(seems much more consistent) , the camera seems to focus better and give slightly better results. Also the three bars at the bottom of the home screen are at the absolute bottom now and much wider.
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THX!....
After you posted this,I decided to take a look in the Settings > System Update & found the update notes in English (probably translated to whatever default language you choose) & pretty much line-up with your observations/usage:
The notes may have been available in the previous updates,but,I didn't notice the little arrow to click on to read the notes (probably there all along)......
KOLIOSIS said:
THX!....
After you posted this,I decided to take a look in the Settings > System Update & found the update notes in English (probably translated to whatever default language you choose) & pretty much line-up with your observations/usage:
The notes may have been available in the previous updates,but,I didn't notice the little arrow to click on to read the notes (probably there all along)......
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haha yeah the arrow has been there to check the changelog but the improvements they claim are actually noticable to me at least ?
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated ?
tacopicante123 said:
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated
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I might be having one serious BLONDE MOMENT :laugh: ,but,I can't seem to find how to make the YouTube app play by default,from links in email/texts/etc.....
Again,it could just be me,the settings on this phone are convoluted,makes Huawei & Xiaomi look clean & simple by comparison.......
So,in the meantime,I'm using this default picker app to help out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith&hl=en_US
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I might be having one serious BLONDE MOMENT [emoji23] ,but,I can't seem to find how to make the YouTube app play by default,from links in email/texts/etc.....
Again,it could just be me,the settings on this phone are convoluted,makes Huawei & Xiaomi look clean & simple by comparison.......
So,in the meantime,I'm using this default picker app to help out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith&hl=en_US
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Does YouTube Vanced non root version works on Vivo Nex or not.
Have you tried it?
On my OP5T works both version(root or not root )as well 6 months now
https://vanced.azurewebsites.net/APKs?type=NONROOT
Thanks
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Does YouTube Vanced non root version works on Vivo Nex or not.
Have you tried it?
On my OP5T works both version(root or not root )as well 6 months now
https://vanced.azurewebsites.net/APKs?type=NONROOT
Thanks
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Yeah, it works, but, as stated on the site, no Micro G, no log in......
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KOLIOSIS said:
Yeah, it works, but, as stated on the site, no Micro G, no log in......
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Installing the micro g file from above link doesn’t work??
I used 0.2.4-105 version from above link and always works great.
You can try both of them providing.
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Installing the micro g file from above link doesn’t work??
I used 0.2.4-105 version from above link and always works great.
You can try both of them providing.
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Just loaded up no root Micro G, good to go, signed-in successfully.
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Just loaded up no root Micro G, good to go, signed-in successfully.
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Ok well done one less trouble with Funtouch OS hahahaha.
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tacopicante123 said:
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated
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I go back and forth seemingly daily. I lust for the hardware, it is to me the next step on the path to OLED in-display cameras, but that bizarre Android iOS clone nonsense they have going on is pushing me away. Funtouch sounds like a waking nightmare.
I currently have a Mi Mix 2, and already the rumor mill is in full swing re. the Mix 3. Google Mi Mix 3 and check out some early leaks, they are rumored to follow the Nex style. Admitted MIUI is not all that great either, but at least Xiaomi is a bit more dev friendly on releasing the kernels etc. And sorry for the hijack

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