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4K video so disappointing

I've been recording a few 4k clips. I think its pretty pointless A) No OIS , you need a tripod only reall for using it B) Frame rate not 30fps all the time stutters a bit.
Other than that its the most detailed amazing video on my 2560 x 1440p monitor (No 4k monitor yet), but with no OIS its really not practical at all. Or usable. And not to mention the 5 minute clip limit...
Anyone here going to honestly be using it over 1080p? (Unless you carry a tripod) Guess i'm too use to the G2's OIS camera which gives much smoother videos.

Honestly, mostly I just use 720p. In my opinion the 4k function is an marketing trick by Samsung. Well it works but the mainstream market needs a few more years until it's the non+ ultra. It's nice to have but I'm quietly sure I won't use it at all.

Lenniitsch said:
Honestly, mostly I just use 720p. In my opinion the 4k function is an marketing trick by Samsung. Well it works but the mainstream market needs a few more years until it's the non+ ultra. It's nice to have but I'm quietly sure I won't use it at all.
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Agreed. 100% marketing gimmick. Other than playing with it for a few minutes, doubt I will ever use it again. If it was 4K 30fps with image stabilization yes.

Chaialo says
I was actually thinking of filming a commercial with it. I do have a tripod, slider and a clamp to hold it. I will also be shooting the same scenes in 1080P on my HPX300 just in case.

Hendrickson said:
I've been recording a few 4k clips. I think its pretty pointless A) No OIS , you need a tripod only reall for using it B) Frame rate not 30fps all the time stutters a bit.
Other than that its the most detailed amazing video on my 2560 x 1440p monitor (No 4k monitor yet), but with no OIS its really not practical at all. Or usable. And not to mention the 5 minute clip limit...
Anyone here going to honestly be using it over 1080p? (Unless you carry a tripod) Guess i'm too use to the G2's OIS camera which gives much smoother videos.
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I wish you guys would quit with the whining.. the camera (from what I have seen) is clearly better than its predecessors or just about anything on the market for a smartphone. Samsung has clearly improved this phone in every way, its by far the best phone on the market. No other phone can anywhere close to what this phone offers, the features are endless. So stop crying and be happy that you are fortunate to own the best phone on the market. IMO

I don't think that the 4k ability is outstanding but someone has to take the first step. And that the note 3 can handle the bandwidth needed for 4k is enough to wow me right there.(it is very compressed I'd imagine)
And to people saying its a marketing gimmick, isn't the iphones slow mo feature the same? The note 3 can do 720p 120fps just like the iphone but there not hyping it up. 4k is more exciting then watching every video on YouTube in slow mo. If I want to watch slow mo I want to see it at 1000fps with a true slow mo camera.

Lenniitsch said:
Honestly, mostly I just use 720p. In my opinion the 4k function is an marketing trick by Samsung. Well it works but the mainstream market needs a few more years until it's the non+ ultra. It's nice to have but I'm quietly sure I won't use it at all.
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Uh, 4K is a feature of the snapdragon 800 chipset. Samsung had nothing to do with it. Blame Qualcomm for it being less than desirable.

I imagine xda devs will get around the 5 minute limit soon enough.
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I'm so tired of coming to this forum and seeing people constantly complain about things that are either superficial or not mind blowing (etc. speakers not putting out surround sound 7.1, 4k not being worlds better than 1080p).
Keep these negative post in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458640

Agree Sgt. Beside that I would add permission that people with less of 200 (maybe 100) cant open new threads in general..Only qa.
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Sounds great, they should also make it that Samsung fanboys can only start posts too? Fanboys here don't let people express their opinions which is what forums are all about discussions and sometimes there are topics you might not like.
Edit: I've request this thread be lock and buried incase more don't like it

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Steadyshot not working in 4k?

Can anyone with the Z5 or Z5c check how well Steadyshot works with 1080p vs. 4k? I've been seeing Youtube videos where it does not look like it is working in 4k, even though the videos claim it is enabled. All the 1080p videos seem to be excellent however. So is this a pre-production unit problem, an actual problem, or maybe auto mode vs. manual mode bug?
Edit: Maybe it's just less effective than at 1080p?

Sorry to bother you folks, but I've found the answer (I think). The closed-loop actuator (i.e. hardware stabilizer) is used in Intelligent Active Mode, which supports up to 1080p (and not 4k - please correct me if I'm wrong). Guess 4k will only be really useful when not moving around a lot.

joe_dude said:
Sorry to bother you folks, but I've found the answer (I think). The closed-loop actuator (i.e. hardware stabilizer) is used in Intelligent Active Mode, which supports up to 1080p (and not 4k - please correct me if I'm wrong). Guess 4k will only be really useful when not moving around a lot.
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On Z3+, 1080p has two stabilization options (standard, intelligent active) & 4K has only one - standard. Sounds like it's the same deal on Z5, but I could be wrong.

schecter7 said:
On Z3+, 1080p has two stabilization options (standard, intelligent active) & 4K has only one - standard. Sounds like it's the same deal on Z5, but I could be wrong.
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I've seen a few Z5 4k vids now, along with some on other phones. Looks like 4k even with OIS is pretty much unusable for anything beyond hand jitter. All the videos I've seen are shaky as heck while walking (let alone running). I guess OIS was designed for photos, and not for absorbing shocks in videos.
So maybe use 4k when standing still or sitting down, and want to capture more detail (those huge files and battery drain!). But I think 1080p with Intelligent Active mode will be better in most situations, since it can handle more aggressive panning and movement (since that's what the closed-loop actuator was designed for).
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The Z serie (Z1-Z2-Z3-Z4-Z5,etc...) doesnt have an OIS. they have software image stabilizer.

warplane95 said:
The Z serie (Z1-Z2-Z3-Z4-Z5,etc...) doesnt have an OIS. they have software image stabilizer.
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Z5 uses a hardware-based closed-loop actuator, which is electronically controlled. So no, it is not OIS, but it's actually a more advanced hardware + software stabilizer (taken from the Sony Alpha). For video, it's far better than OIS. For pics, it's probably close, but I don't have enough info to really know. Took me quite a bit of digging to find out. It's not a "it's just software-based" solution. FYI, the actuator is used in Intelligent Active mode.
The Z3/Z3+ I'm pretty sure also uses an actuator, but it's "open-loop", which is less accurate (not sure about the other phones in the Z series). The closed-loop actuator is a real advancement - the Z5 is first phone to ever use such a system. It's too bad Sony doesn't know how to market it and explain why it's arguably most advanced smartphone available. Sigh. Meanwhile, the Samsung and Apple hype trains continue... choo choo!

@joe_dude , My understanding is that closed loop actuator based stabilization (what a jawbreaker! ) should work in both modes as it probably doesn't help much if they turn off gyroscope/actuator combo in 4K. But the DIS part will be weaker as the SW has to push the hw more in 4K. So it'd not be as effective as 1080p intelligent active stabilization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fEyi0oTvw4

joe_dude said:
I've seen a few Z5 4k vids now, along with some on other phones. Looks like 4k even with OIS is pretty much unusable for anything beyond hand jitter. All the videos I've seen are shaky as heck while walking (let alone running). I guess OIS was designed for photos, and not for absorbing shocks in videos.
So maybe use 4k when standing still or sitting down, and want to capture more detail (those huge files and battery drain!). But I think 1080p with Intelligent Active mode will be better in most situations, since it can handle more aggressive panning and movement (since that's what the closed-loop actuator was designed for).
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I've shoot many 4K with Z1c(4k mod) and S6, they don't have any problem when you walking very carefully. Yes, the 4K must be lag during at indoor/low-light bcoz it will need 4 times lighting in to satisfy the sensor and today's technology with such a small sensor doesn't reach the standard(the shutter speed lower than 1/30th), it will take a couple of years to improve.
With IA mode yet you have a fluid video but the price for the quality drop is very huge but that's the only solution if you try to avoid any movement or want to give running a try.
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joe_dude said:
Z5 uses a hardware-based closed-loop actuator, which is electronically controlled. So no, it is not OIS, but it's actually a more advanced hardware + software stabilizer (taken from the Sony Alpha). For video, it's far better than OIS. For pics, it's probably close, but I don't have enough info to really know. Took me quite a bit of digging to find out. It's not a "it's just software-based" solution. FYI, the actuator is used in Intelligent Active mode.
The Z3/Z3+ I'm pretty sure also uses an actuator, but it's "open-loop", which is less accurate (not sure about the other phones in the Z series). The closed-loop actuator is a real advancement - the Z5 is first phone to ever use such a system. It's too bad Sony doesn't know how to market it and explain why it's arguably most advanced smartphone available. Sigh. Meanwhile, the Samsung and Apple hype trains continue... choo choo!
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They took the focus tec from Sony Alpha and that closed-loop actuator isn't anything new, my old Sony DV recorder(Tape type) actually been used similar things ten years ago....
The OIS module on phone is too small and not enough to fix any large shaking during video recording. The ideal solution is to combine software and hardware OIS, relying sololy on software stabilization will hurt FOV and quality too much.

That 960 fps slow-mo is fake af

POCO F1 is doing interpolated slow-mo. It's not 960 fps as advertised, but they are using software algorithms (like Twixtor plugin from adobe after effects). The POCO fans are going to hate this. But that is not 960 fps slow-mo. You can tell by the ghosting around the mving objects/parts in the slow-mo part of the video. (look at the sparkles in the first example). (video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPbqYsDdqiQ
Anyone with basic editing skills can tell you that. The contents creators on youtube are paid NOT to tell you that. Sadly, they oblige.

Yeah whatever. We already know that already. It's normal since Poco doesn't have dedicated camera DRAM to do real slow-mo unlike high tier phones.

That doesn't make it any less fun to play with.
I think most of us know it's interpolated slowmo, but it works.
To have a real 1000fps slow motion camera in our phone would have jacked the price up by a substantial amount.

Yeah I'll stick to oneplus when the 855s drop
And avoid the flagship of compromises =)

240 fps slow-mo of GCAM is better than 960fps stock cam of poco f1..sad to say but true

dantedakilla said:
That doesn't make it any less fun to play with.
I think most of us know it's interpolated slowmo, but it works.
To have a real 1000fps slow motion camera in our phone would have jacked the price up by a substantial amount.
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Sure, but doesn't it bug you that the company promoted a feature, and made a big fuss about it only for it to turn out to be a false promise?
What bugs me even more, are the so called youtube tech-channels who are actively misleading people. The video I quoted in my post, actually said Poco's slow-mo is better than Note 9's.

pingufanpoy said:
Yeah I'll stick to oneplus when the 855s drop
And avoid the flagship of compromises =)
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Yeah, hopefully they don't keep increasing the prices and learn from Apple's mistake.
Because OnePlus is pretty damn far from what it started out to be. It's not a flagship killer anymore, it's a flagship. It has already snuck into LG pricing territory (without the 'down-the-road' price cuts, of course).
I have a OnePlus 6, which I bought for more than 11k compared to what I paid for the OnePlus 3 when I bought it.

bamz1117 said:
240 fps slow-mo of GCAM is better than 960fps stock cam of poco f1..sad to say but true
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To be fair, GCAM is better than any camera app on any other smartphone for every other smartphone.

whrynox said:
Yeah whatever. We already know that already. It's normal since Poco doesn't have dedicated camera DRAM to do real slow-mo unlike high tier phones.
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Yes, but they could have been honest about that.

sabbyj said:
Sure, but doesn't it bug you that the company promoted a feature, and made a big fuss about it only for it to turn out to be a false promise?
What bugs me even more, are the so called youtube tech-channels who are actively misleading people. The video I quoted in my post, actually said Poco's slow-mo is better than Note 9's.
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Doesn't really bug me, TBH. I think it's because I knew from the beginning that their 960 FPS slow motion was gonna be an AI-interpolation thing, so I didn't really have high expectations, just lots of curiosity.

sabbyj said:
Sure, but doesn't it bug you that the company promoted a feature, and made a big fuss about it only for it to turn out to be a false promise?
What bugs me even more, are the so called youtube tech-channels who are actively misleading people. The video I quoted in my post, actually said Poco's slow-mo is better than Note 9's.
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Most of the big tech companies does that (lying)all the time including Samsung and Apple (sapphire camera) and Huawei ( false benchmarks). Xiaomi is just getting into the game.
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mahmoudelwaleed said:
Most of the big tech companies does that (lying)all the time including Samsung and Apple (sapphire camera) and Huawei ( false benchmarks). Xiaomi is just getting into the game.
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Just because others are doing something like that doesn't mean everyone else gets an excuse to do the same
If someone steals something from you and gets away with it. Then a month later some other thief steals from you and gets away with it, will you be like " that's okay, even the first one did it and got away with it." ?

I'm not saying it's okay to do that and get away with it ; I'm just saying it is not something new.
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Is there really no stabilization in 4k 60fps mode?

Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1

I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77

subhani said:
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.

TheCookieButter said:
I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
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So did he record that first part in 4k 60fps WITH stabilization? Because it looks VERY smooth, audio was excellent and picture very naturally crisp. If the answer is yes, how come the other dude from the UK, in the first clip couldn't enable EIS?
BTW, audio recording is superb as per the opening piece in this video:

When the portuguese guy starts running I was mesmerized by the stabilization...
They're using pre-production units, perhaps the phone that UK lad got wasn't as ready as the other one? Let's wait and see how the actual production phones work... Can't wait!!

Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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subhani said:
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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Switch on subtitles in your language.

_jis_ said:
Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/

erio82 said:
Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.

_jis_ said:
But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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oooooooooh, SNAP!!! true that!! I did not realize that simple fact, thanks!

_jis_ said:
But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.

Trixanity said:
The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it

It seems stabilization has been added in an update!

_jis_ said:
They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.

Trixanity said:
From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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I'm probably going to get this phone. 50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though. I hope 100,000 open+closes is the actual number. My LG G2 still gets use from a family member, so I could see it being an issue.
Either way, in real world it'll probably vary wildly between users and individual phones when it breaks (or not).

subhani said:
It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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Chigz Tech Reviews additionally show us what SW version they tested in previous video and what updated SW version they tested in today's video.
So we can see that not all reviewers had their tested phones on the same SW version.
It is a pity that most reviewers doesn't bother to told us what SW version they tested, this is a pleasant exception.
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TheCookieButter said:
I'm probably going to get this phone.
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Me too
TheCookieButter said:
50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though.
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Forget that number from their marketing department and just imagine what their engineers said: 28 selfies daily for 5 years.
For me that is pretty enough.
And do you know that even traditional DSLR Cameras have a shutter life? I know that it is something different mechanically, but it doesn't last forever too.
https://www.quora.com/Is-this-true-...-that-shutter-count-the-camera-become-useless

subhani said:
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
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in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro

Onepunchbro said:
in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
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Yeah, the stabilization at 4K60 is impressive.
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that. It's not that difficult to spot. People shouldn't look perpetually sunburned and I can't imagine anyone thinking it looks good as opposed to the overall saturated quality to both pictures and video which some people prefer for whatever reason. It's also strange that videos appear so different to pictures. You'd think they'd have similar tuning.
So Asus either need to give the option or just fix it. Any competent reviewer will mention how off the colors are.

Trixanity said:
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that.
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Asus knows about it, but the fix isn't out yet.

General Pixel 7 Pro RAW Video Recording (MotionCam)

Many of you are probably frustrated due to the absolutely mediocre video recording quality of the Pixel 7 series (In general Android devices have poor video recording quality, unlike Apple's iPhone).
For anyone who has enough time, skillset, and patience, check out the MotionCam app. I've used it already for quite some time, and it's absolutely mindblowing how well the sensors (RAW images) can be utilized in order to produce some "serious" video material.
Check these video examples...
Stock vs MotionCam:
MotionCam vs Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 4K Lens: LEICA DG 12-60mm F2.8-4.0:

ekin_strops said:
Many of you are probably frustrated due to the absolutely mediocre video recording quality of the Pixel 7 series (In general Android devices have poor video recording quality, unlike Apple's iPhone).
For anyone who has enough time, skillset, and patience, check out the MotionCam app. I've used it already for quite some time, and it's absolutely mindblowing how well the sensors (RAW images) can be utilized in order to produce some "serious" video material.
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This is a great Camera. A LOT of settings that I'm too green to really understand but I took a few pics with it, which I'll post here when I get my phone off the charger, and they look good! I'm going to shoot some video with it today, too and make some comparisons

HipKat said:
This is a great Camera. A LOT of settings that I'm too green to really understand but I took a few pics with it, which I'll post here when I get my phone off the charger, and they look good! I'm going to shoot some video with it today, too and make some comparisons
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Yes, RAW video requires really some knowledge, I mean, you need to understand "color grading" and post-processing if you want to get the "best" out of it.
I do have the skillset, I just didn't have much time to actually record something "interesting". Was just taking recordings through the windows and inside for comparison and experimenting.
There is even stabilization (gyroscope) inside it for post-processing purposes, and it works GREAT (something like EIS) so you don't really need a Gimbal for stable videos even when moving (walking) around with the phone.

ekin_strops said:
Yes, RAW video requires really some knowledge, I mean, you need to understand "color grading" and post-processing if you want to get the "best" out of it.
I do have the skillset, I just didn't have much time to actually record something "interesting". Was just taking recordings through the windows and inside for comparison and experimenting.
There is even stabilization (gyroscope) inside it for post-processing purposes, and it works GREAT (something like EIS) so you don't really need a Gimbal for stable videos even when moving (walking) around with the phone.
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I saw that, a very cool feature. I have that same skill set with imaging, but I’ve never played with video processing at all.

Hi guys,
I'm planning on getting the P7Pro and use it with Motion Cam. However I have a few questions about its limitations here. The Tensor G2 isn't the most capable chip(at least judging by Geekbench) and I'm curious if it can achieve RAW video capture in MotionCam at 4K 30fps, 60fps, or if it can do 8K? And if so, does it have a time limit until it starts dropping frames?
If it's struggling I might decide to save up a bit more and get the S23Ultra, as the SOC scores on that are ~1.8x those of the Pixel7Pro.
I tested MotionCam (trial) on my Xiaomi Mi8 and it's struggling really bad. Pixel 7 is only 2x the processing power of the Mi8. S23Ultra is ~4x.
But then again, synthetic tests might tell nothing, as Tensor G2 is touted to be really good with photo/video content.
So hands-on testing from you is the best way we can tell.
Thanks in advance!
Bogdan

Boggy22 said:
Hi guys,
I'm planning on getting the P7Pro and use it with Motion Cam. However I have a few questions about its limitations here. The Tensor G2 isn't the most capable chip(at least judging by Geekbench) and I'm curious if it can achieve RAW video capture in MotionCam at 4K 30fps, 60fps, or if it can do 8K? And if so, does it have a time limit until it starts dropping frames?
If it's struggling I might decide to save up a bit more and get the S23Ultra, as the SOC scores on that are ~1.8x those of the Pixel7Pro.
I tested MotionCam (trial) on my Xiaomi Mi8 and it's struggling really bad. Pixel 7 is only 2x the processing power of the Mi8. S23Ultra is ~4x.
But then again, synthetic tests might tell nothing, as Tensor G2 is touted to be really good with photo/video content.
So hands-on testing from you is the best way we can tell.
Thanks in advance!
Bogdan
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OP found a way to turn off the unnecessary throttling on the P7 Pro. Works really well. See this

@smorpaket Thanks!
@JohnTheFarm3r , are you now able to shoot 4k60 RAW? Or can you use it more reliably at 4K30?

Boggy22 said:
@smorpaket Thanks!
@JohnTheFarm3r , are you now able to shoot 4k60 RAW? Or can you use it more reliably at 4K30?
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The 4k60 RAW works only if you use the external storage option (split data). The UFS (storage) of the Pixel 7 series is a joke and it can't handle more than 200Mb/S continuous write speeds.
Apart from the slow storage, the throttling was an issue. So, if you use an SSD or NVMe external drive + this mod, you can record 4K60 with only a few dropped frames compared to hundreds when you record without this mod.
I managed to record 30-60 seconds of video MAX at 4K60 on internal storage with this MOD, but longer videos than that started dropping most of the frames when the memory buffer was full and the UFS couldn't handle that amount of data writing.

Boggy22 said:
Hi guys,
I'm planning on getting the P7Pro and use it with Motion Cam. However I have a few questions about its limitations here. The Tensor G2 isn't the most capable chip(at least judging by Geekbench) and I'm curious if it can achieve RAW video capture in MotionCam at 4K 30fps, 60fps, or if it can do 8K? And if so, does it have a time limit until it starts dropping frames?
If it's struggling I might decide to save up a bit more and get the S23Ultra, as the SOC scores on that are ~1.8x those of the Pixel7Pro.
I tested MotionCam (trial) on my Xiaomi Mi8 and it's struggling really bad. Pixel 7 is only 2x the processing power of the Mi8. S23Ultra is ~4x.
But then again, synthetic tests might tell nothing, as Tensor G2 is touted to be really good with photo/video content.
So hands-on testing from you is the best way we can tell.
Thanks in advance!
Bogdan
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Benchmarks scores mean nothing in this case. Yes, SD8gen2 SOC is MUCH more capable than Tensor G2, but the main issue is the heating and throttling. If it's gonna throttle like Pixel does, that processing speed won't matter much. S23U should be handling 4k60 MUCH better since it also has UFS4.0 storage. The SOC is not the only issue when you're recording with MotionCam Pro, the STORAGE speed is the biggest bottleneck.
Pixel 7 doesn't support 8K, the output resolution is maxed 12.5Mpix on the main lens. That's not enough to capture 8K footage.

JohnTheFarm3r said:
Benchmarks scores mean nothing in this case. Yes, SD8gen2 SOC is MUCH more capable than Tensor G2, but the main issue is the heating and throttling. If it's gonna throttle like Pixel does, that processing speed won't matter much. S23U should be handling 4k60 MUCH better since it also has UFS4.0 storage. The SOC is not the only issue when you're recording with MotionCam Pro, the STORAGE speed is the biggest bottleneck.
Pixel 7 doesn't support 8K, the output resolution is maxed 12.5Mpix on the main lens. That's not enough to capture 8K footage
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Thanks a lot John! I think I'll wait a bit more and maybe test an S23 Ultra in MotionCam if I can get my hands on one.