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1.Reduce display brightness of your screen
Although Samsung Galaxy S come with Super AMOLED which is supposedly to reduce your battery consumption but ironically it is one of the biggest battery life eater of your phone. Try to disable Automatic brightness and set it to the lowest level will improve your battery life a lot.
2. Remove unused widget in the menu
You must always remember that the more widget you have, the more battery life will be consumed up especially those widgets that use data connection and auto sync based on schedule. PS: only keep those widgets that you really need.
3.4. Turn off Bluetooth, GPS when idle
Only turn on Bluetooth and GPS when you need it, otherwise please disable it as it will consume your battery resources. Or please ensure that the charger is hook on your device when you turn on the GPS in the car.
5. Turn off 3G data connection, use Wi-Fi instead
Always gets connected with Wi-Fi when available. 3G data connection consume more battery compare to Wi-Fi connection. Turn off both of them when not needed.
6. Ensure you phone have a good signal as poor signal consume more battery life
When the phone is at the poor receiving end it will tend to use more power than usual to increase its signal strength with the communication tower. So it is always good to make sure that your phone has a good signal reception. You can try to switch to 2G if 3G connection signal in your area is poor.
7. Try to disable / reduce auto-sync whenever possible
All you have learned, data connection does consume lot of your battery life. By disabling the background scheduled auto-sync applications like Facebook, Gmail and Twitter can save your phone lot deal of battery life. If you really have to turn on the auto-sync feature in the phone try to reduce the frequency of auto-sync will also help to improve your phone battery life.
8. Disable new Samsung Apps notification
You can turn off new Samsung Apps notification if you not using it.
The configuration can be access through ~ >Settings >Application > Samsung Apps > Off
9. Turn off motion sensor
Only enable the Samsung Galaxy S Motion features that you using and try to disable those you not using like turn over, tilt, panning and double tap, turn them off as it might save your some battery life.
10. Use solid black static wallpaper and no live wallpaper
Most of the phone including Samsung Galaxy S Super AMOLED will tend to use less power on just solid black wallpaper than a lively solid white color based wallpaper because there will be almost no backlight on the screen. Please do bear in mind that a lovely animation live wallpaper will even cost you more battery life as ~ CPU power = battery life.
11. Fully close application that not use
Samsung Galaxy S is a super multitasking mini computer that come with dual-core processor but running a lot of applications at the background can actually increase your battery usage because they all require your phone CPU processing power. So it is advisable to fully close all the background applications that you not needed.
12. Freeze unused bundle applications
Too many original bundle software running in your Samsung Galaxy S? Freeze them… Titanium Backup Pro provide a way for you to freeze away all the stock application like Social Hub, Email, Maps that are running and utilizing your phone processing power even when you’r not using them. Ps: Your phone need to be rooted before you can use the Titanium Backup Pro.
13. Undervolt and underclock You 800Mhz GHz CPU
Aside from display, Samsung Galaxy S′s powerful CPU is one of the reason why your battery life eat up so fast. You can just underclock and undervolt it with SetCPU if you don’t need that much of processing power. Ps: Your phone need to be rooted before you can use the SetCPU.
14.Download and install JuiceDefender
With an amazingly over 5,000,000 downloads recorded so far in the Android market, JuiceDefender will definately extend your the battery life of your Samsung Galaxy S. JuiceDefender pack with powerful and easy to use power manager app that specifically designed to extend the battery life of your Android device. It can automatically and transparently manages the utilisation of your S battery like when to enable and disable the 3G/4G connectivity and WiFi.
JuiceDefender is available in the Android Market for free and if you would like to have a more powerful (customisable) version you can download the add-on JuiceDefender Ultimate for a small fee of $6.83.
15. Use custom ROM / firmware
Custom ROM / firmware offer a lot of optimization and tweaks to improve the performance of your battery life. You can try it out if you feel that after you have tried out all the tips above and your battery still draining too fast. But please be reminded that flashing a custom ROM / firmware will be voiding the warranty provided by Samsung.
Please let me know if there are other tips and tweaks to improve battery life of Samsung Galaxy S/Cappy that I have missed out.
I think #14 is not necessary if you are running a custom ROM
why wouldnt it be?
I believe number 11 has been proven untrue in the fact that killing tasks that the phone will reopen soon after actually reduces battery life hence the reason task killers are bad. Also the captivate only has a single core processor.
Other than that nice work it should help people out.
If you use a stock ROM with no voodoo color built into the kernel, then use full brightness, I do and I get great battery life, the screen isn't the biggest battery life sucker.... this isn't the greatest battery saving thread from what I can see.
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Generally good tips, but definitely a few holes here and there.
For example, GPS doesn't drain when 'on', only when certain apps use it, making it pretty safe to keep toggled on all the time.
You can go further with SetCPU and other similar apps but underclocking during screen off, and I think that's helping me save battery in my personal experience.
Having a black wallpaper is good and all, but I feel that doing that is a bit too far in optimizing battery life. What's the point of having a pretty decent screen when all you do is use a black wallpaper?
Or flash Darky rom 10.2 Extreme Edition.
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Thank you all for the highlights & suggestions. Just wanted to see what I could do to help those out there with battery drain issues.
Samsung Captivate - ICS 4.0.1
b-eock said:
If you use a stock ROM with no voodoo color built into the kernel, then use full brightness, I do and I get great battery life, the screen isn't the biggest battery life sucker.... this isn't the greatest battery saving thread from what I can see.
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Then what is the biggest battery sucker on your phone?
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Then what is the biggest battery sucker on your phone?
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on ICS PORT soon to be CM9, android OS is.
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on ICS PORT soon to be CM9, android OS is.
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That is no good, considering the screen should be taking most of the power.
You either arent using your phone or you are crushing batteries in hours.
No I'm using it, Android OS process in ICS includes more than what they do in GB. It last all day (~15 hours with %40 left)
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Yeah I have the ICS port, build three, and the battery sucked the first day due to all the downloading and cpu usage, but after that and a full charge and battery diagnostic wipe it was a great life with decent usage on apps and data and messaging with auto brightness
In Point 11, Captivate uses single processor....and killing system apps causes more battery drains....
My limited experience with roms suggests that as roms are works-in-progress their battery life can vary widely. Serenity6.1 has really seemed to be a long life rom.
These steps do make a big difference, also the Beta 2 build for ICS solves a lot of issues that users had with ICS battery life. Honestly if you want even more battery life grab the 3500 mah extended battery off amazon for $10.
jeromechrome1 said:
1.Reduce display brightness of your screen
Although Samsung Galaxy S come with Super AMOLED which is supposedly to reduce your battery consumption but ironically it is one of the biggest battery life eater of your phone. Try to disable Automatic brightness and set it to the lowest level will improve your battery life a lot.
2. Remove unused widget in the menu
You must always remember that the more widget you have, the more battery life will be consumed up especially those widgets that use data connection and auto sync based on schedule. PS: only keep those widgets that you really need.
3.4. Turn off Bluetooth, GPS when idle
Only turn on Bluetooth and GPS when you need it, otherwise please disable it as it will consume your battery resources. Or please ensure that the charger is hook on your device when you turn on the GPS in the car.
5. Turn off 3G data connection, use Wi-Fi instead
Always gets connected with Wi-Fi when available. 3G data connection consume more battery compare to Wi-Fi connection. Turn off both of them when not needed.
6. Ensure you phone have a good signal as poor signal consume more battery life
When the phone is at the poor receiving end it will tend to use more power than usual to increase its signal strength with the communication tower. So it is always good to make sure that your phone has a good signal reception. You can try to switch to 2G if 3G connection signal in your area is poor.
7. Try to disable / reduce auto-sync whenever possible
All you have learned, data connection does consume lot of your battery life. By disabling the background scheduled auto-sync applications like Facebook, Gmail and Twitter can save your phone lot deal of battery life. If you really have to turn on the auto-sync feature in the phone try to reduce the frequency of auto-sync will also help to improve your phone battery life.
8. Disable new Samsung Apps notification
You can turn off new Samsung Apps notification if you not using it.
The configuration can be access through ~ >Settings >Application > Samsung Apps > Off
9. Turn off motion sensor
Only enable the Samsung Galaxy S Motion features that you using and try to disable those you not using like turn over, tilt, panning and double tap, turn them off as it might save your some battery life.
10. Use solid black static wallpaper and no live wallpaper
Most of the phone including Samsung Galaxy S Super AMOLED will tend to use less power on just solid black wallpaper than a lively solid white color based wallpaper because there will be almost no backlight on the screen. Please do bear in mind that a lovely animation live wallpaper will even cost you more battery life as ~ CPU power = battery life.
11. Fully close application that not use
Samsung Galaxy S is a super multitasking mini computer that come with dual-core processor but running a lot of applications at the background can actually increase your battery usage because they all require your phone CPU processing power. So it is advisable to fully close all the background applications that you not needed.
12. Freeze unused bundle applications
Too many original bundle software running in your Samsung Galaxy S? Freeze them… Titanium Backup Pro provide a way for you to freeze away all the stock application like Social Hub, Email, Maps that are running and utilizing your phone processing power even when you’r not using them. Ps: Your phone need to be rooted before you can use the Titanium Backup Pro.
13. Undervolt and underclock You 800Mhz GHz CPU
Aside from display, Samsung Galaxy S′s powerful CPU is one of the reason why your battery life eat up so fast. You can just underclock and undervolt it with SetCPU if you don’t need that much of processing power. Ps: Your phone need to be rooted before you can use the SetCPU.
14.Download and install JuiceDefender
With an amazingly over 5,000,000 downloads recorded so far in the Android market, JuiceDefender will definately extend your the battery life of your Samsung Galaxy S. JuiceDefender pack with powerful and easy to use power manager app that specifically designed to extend the battery life of your Android device. It can automatically and transparently manages the utilisation of your S battery like when to enable and disable the 3G/4G connectivity and WiFi.
JuiceDefender is available in the Android Market for free and if you would like to have a more powerful (customisable) version you can download the add-on JuiceDefender Ultimate for a small fee of $6.83.
15. Use custom ROM / firmware
Custom ROM / firmware offer a lot of optimization and tweaks to improve the performance of your battery life. You can try it out if you feel that after you have tried out all the tips above and your battery still draining too fast. But please be reminded that flashing a custom ROM / firmware will be voiding the warranty provided by Samsung.
Please let me know if there are other tips and tweaks to improve battery life of Samsung Galaxy S/Cappy that I have missed out.
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Basically dont use your smartphone as a smartphone. Thats what you're saying by turning off all the good features of the phone.
1, 3, 4, 11 are like NO DUH!!!
5. Are you saying use EDGE? It will save some battery, but you have to consider it may take longer to load something, and thus the screen might be on longer, negating savings. Plus, it's a PITA to change back and forth.
6. Other than switching to EDGE, not really in your control.
7. That's stupid. It defeats the whole purpose of having a smartphone.
9. As long as you lock orientation. I doubt it saves much though...
15. YES, that can be HUGE.
Jeffu said:
Having a black wallpaper is good and all, but I feel that doing that is a bit too far in optimizing battery life. What's the point of having a pretty decent screen when all you do is use a black wallpaper?
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I agree. I think a compromise is a better idea. A lot of ROMs have black wallpapers with a small % of extremely brightly colored random or geometric designs, or green android-ish swirls or something that look AMAZING on the AMOLED screen.
Thank you all for your feedback.
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thanks, great guide!
Hi all
I am having a strange issue with my Nexus 5, so I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this:
Auto-brightness is off, brightness is set to maximum. Every now and then, as I am using the phone, the brightness would change. It would go slightly darker, and then sometimes after some time (minutes) slightly brighter again (back to maximum). When this happens, the actual brightness settings slider does not change, it's always saying 100%. I've tried to notice some pattern in the occurrences of this issue, but so far cannot identify any steps to reproduce it. It is easily spotted when the screen has a big area of a solid colour, e.g. on a web-page's white space. So most often I see it while scrolling a news website. Note that during these brightness changes, my environment's lightning does not change (auto-brightness is off anyway, so this should not matter).
I don't even know if this could be down to a software or hardware issue.
So, anyone had similar problems?
Thanks,
Nik
It's throttling (overheating)
Found a related thread
Thanks supersain08 for your answer. Now using this term, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516915
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Thanks supersain08 for your answer. Now using this term, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516915
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How can you use the brightness at maximum on this phone? This phone has one of the brightest displays I've ever seen. At 30% or so it's brighter than most phones on full.
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How can you use the brightness at maximum on this phone? This phone has one of the brightest displays I've ever seen. At 30% or so it's brighter than most phones on full.
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Well I think that's beside the point, but let's say it's a personal preference.
And also it is possible that one would like to have a 100% brightness in light/sunny conditions, so then this issue could become relevant for anyone.
Last time I used 100% brightness on a phone screen was on the first days of my gnex.
Displays are in indoor situation much too bright on 100%, brigther doesn't look better all the time. I am going with Auto-Brightness (to have it at 100% in outdoor situations) but it is still to bright in low light situations. I have to wait for a customrom to adjust this like I did with the gnex.
Can not understand how people can use it at 100% all the time.
Why do you feel it's necessary to argue whether 100% brightness is useful or not?
That's not the point of the original question.
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It's throttling (overheating)
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I've been having the same issue; glad to know it isn't a defect, and that it's supposed to do that. Thanks for the information
Regardless of ambient light, is there a way to set full brightness on the S6?
Running the stock ROM/kernel, even on full britghtness, the screen can go brighter unless the light sensor detects a high ambient light. I am wondering if its possible to change this.
Currently means PWM is still active on the screen even on full brightness. Same with the note 4 but this was not the case with previous samsung devices. PWM on full brightness is a deal breaker for me so I need to know now or this phone is being sold.
I think it's not really advisable to keep the screen on "extended brightness" mode for longer periods of time, because AMOLED panels wear out over time and this would be a definite way to make it wear out faster. Also it generates a lot of heat. There's a reason why Samsung implemented this adaptive mechanism.
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I think it's not really advisable to keep the screen on "extended brightness" mode for longer periods of time, because AMOLED panels wear out over time and this would be a definite way to make it wear out faster. Also it generates a lot of heat. There's a reason why Samsung implemented this adaptive mechanism.
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Thankyou for replying but you did not answer the question at all. I specifically stated this is a deal breaker for me, and that it means that I have to sell this $1000 phone for great effort at a reduced price because of it.
If something is this important to me then I clearly do not care about wearing it out over time. My galaxy s1+s2 has been running on modified AMOLED gamma values for 6 years and they are still fine so I dont care if the displays wears out in 10 years time.
I cannot use the phone becuase the PWM effect means the screen flickers like crazy. It gives me a headache after 1 minute of use. The phone is worthless to me in this state. If i can increase the brightness to full hopefuly the PWM effect stops and I can use a screen filter to lower the brightness, so it will not wear our the display as well.
Lastly why was this moved to Help and Troubleshooting, it is a very important question about the phone. All previous SGS phones have been fine, this is a game changer for the worst.
Yuge said:
Thankyou for replying but you did not answer the question at all. I specifically stated this is a deal breaker for me, and that it means that I have to sell this $1000 phone for great effort at a reduced price because of it.
If something is this important to me then I clearly do not care about wearing it out over time. My galaxy s1+s2 has been running on modified AMOLED gamma values for 6 years and they are still fine so I dont care if the displays wears out in 10 years time.
I cannot use the phone becuase the PWM effect means the screen flickers like crazy. It gives me a headache after 1 minute of use. The phone is worthless to me in this state. If i can increase the brightness to full hopefuly the PWM effect stops and I can use a screen filter to lower the brightness, so it will not wear our the display as well.
Lastly why was this moved to Help and Troubleshooting, it is a very important question about the phone. All previous SGS phones have been fine, this is a game changer for the worst.
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Not really sure where the issue is at, are you stating that when the brightness is reduced you can visibly see the phone flicker? I use an app called Velis Auto Brightness, it gives you way more customization to the brightness level. I like it because it mathematically calculates based off the luminescence (in the environment) of how bright the display should be to show accurate color perception, rather than focusing on batter life as much.
The extra brightness mode on the phone is just a high contrast feature, I haven't found a way to force it on as of yet. I know the phone goes up to 700 nits in sunlight, but the biggest difference is the contrast feature on it.
Brittany_Menton said:
Not really sure where the issue is at, are you stating that when the brightness is reduced you can visibly see the phone flicker? I use an app called Velis Auto Brightness, it gives you way more customization to the brightness level. I like it because it mathematically calculates based off the luminescence (in the environment) of how bright the display should be to show accurate color perception, rather than focusing on batter life as much.
The extra brightness mode on the phone is just a high contrast feature, I haven't found a way to force it on as of yet. I know the phone goes up to 700 nits in sunlight, but the biggest difference is the contrast feature on it.
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I can see the phone flicker even when the brightness is on max setting, because it is not truly the the max brightness of the screen hardware. All the galaxy phones after the s2 did this, except when you turned them to max they stopped flickering. The s6 is the first device that does not allow you manual control over brightness, so I just want to know if custom roms have done this.
IF you don't know what I mean this is how they flicker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2f0TZtpRA4
Also you are wrong that the extra brightness is just contrast, it increase the lumens as well as reduces or stops the flicker PWM effect. This is how phones using PWM reduce brightness, by making the screen flicker on and off, whereas in phones like the S2 the actual display dimmed. Some people can see this and are sensitive to it, some people are sensitive to to it but they don't know it, and some people dont see it and aren't affected by it.
But it doesn't look like anyone has made a Kernel that allows for full control over the AMOLED in the S6 so I plan on selling the phone soon.
Lastly I hope someone moves this to a more appropriate section where a DEV can see it, not the basic QA section like how do i change wallpaper.
Yuge said:
I can see the phone flicker even when the brightness is on max setting, because it is not truly the the max brightness of the screen hardware. All the galaxy phones after the s2 did this, except when you turned them to max they stopped flickering. The s6 is the first device that does not allow you manual control over brightness, so I just want to know if custom roms have done this.
IF you don't know what I mean this is how they flicker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2f0TZtpRA4
Also you are wrong that the extra brightness is just contrast, it increase the lumens as well as reduces or stops the flicker PWM effect. This is how phones using PWM reduce brightness, by making the screen flicker on and off, whereas in phones like the S2 the actual display dimmed. Some people can see this and are sensitive to it, some people are sensitive to to it but they don't know it, and some people dont see it and aren't affected by it.
But it doesn't look like anyone has made a Kernel that allows for full control over the AMOLED in the S6 so I plan on selling the phone soon.
Lastly I hope someone moves this to a more appropriate section where a DEV can see it, not the basic QA section like how do i change wallpaper.
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I really don't see the problem. All of the phones today flicker, that's how they show images on the screen. You're not going to find custom roms on this device because AOSP is not working on the phone yet, so if its a deal breaker go ahead and return it and get a new phone.
Yuge said:
I can see the phone flicker even when the brightness is on max setting, because it is not truly the the max brightness of the screen hardware. All the galaxy phones after the s2 did this, except when you turned them to max they stopped flickering. The s6 is the first device that does not allow you manual control over brightness, so I just want to know if custom roms have done this.
IF you don't know what I mean this is how they flicker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2f0TZtpRA4
Also you are wrong that the extra brightness is just contrast, it increase the lumens as well as reduces or stops the flicker PWM effect. This is how phones using PWM reduce brightness, by making the screen flicker on and off, whereas in phones like the S2 the actual display dimmed. Some people can see this and are sensitive to it, some people are sensitive to to it but they don't know it, and some people dont see it and aren't affected by it.
But it doesn't look like anyone has made a Kernel that allows for full control over the AMOLED in the S6 so I plan on selling the phone soon.
Lastly I hope someone moves this to a more appropriate section where a DEV can see it, not the basic QA section like how do i change wallpaper.
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Questions do not belong into Development. It will be clear once you read the respective section rules.. I'm afraid that you'll have to live with the thread in Q&A
It's reported that the phone come set at the FHD+ (2220x1080) resolution by default in efforts to conserve battery life.
I'm wondering if there is a way to have the phone automatically go to HQHD+ (2960x1440) when I launch my photo viewing app.
I'm a photographer and I would love to display my photos at the highest resolution possible. However I would only need it when showing my photos to others, and not running that phone at that resolution at all time.
So the ideal solution would be for the user to set a default resolution, and then have an app exception.
Or to be able to cycle through the resolution with the Bixby Button, with a overlay of the currently selected resolution that is visible for a second after you've selected the resolution.
Do you guys think there would be something like this available ?
You can most likely achieve this quite easily using Tasker.
It's an app worth buying if you like to tinker and want full automation functionality.
I currently use it for specific apps to enable GPS, set portrait/landscape, set volume, etc and I'm planning on using it to set hqhd in certain apps once my s8+ arrives.
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You can do this easily with xposed and the skyOnlineHelper app.
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You can do this easily with xposed and the skyOnlineHelper app.
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No xposed for Nougat (yet) and it'll still probably take quite a while..
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No xposed for Nougat (yet) and it'll still probably take quite a while..
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If you live in the Northern hemisphere, we're hoping in time for summer vacation
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It's reported that the phone come set at the FHD+ (2220x1080) resolution by default in efforts to conserve battery life.
I'm wondering if there is a way to have the phone automatically go to HQHD+ (2960x1440) when I launch my photo viewing app.
I'm a photographer and I would love to display my photos at the highest resolution possible. However I would only need it when showing my photos to others, and not running that phone at that resolution at all time.
So the ideal solution would be for the user to set a default resolution, and then have an app exception.
Or to be able to cycle through the resolution with the Bixby Button, with a overlay of the currently selected resolution that is visible for a second after you've selected the resolution.
Do you guys think there would be something like this available ?
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Personally I do not waste time trying to save battery life when charging it easy and fast I have everything maxed out all the time . If I'm paying £800 for anything I want it to be the best it can be
mattcall said:
Personally I do not waste time trying to save battery life when charging it easy and fast I have everything maxed out all the time . If I'm paying £800 for anything I want it to be the best it can be
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Good Point, watched a battery stress test on youtube, and this thing gets great battery life. Far more than I would typically use.
But of course that was using the default resolution. However I'm hoping the higher resolution wouldn't kill battery too much more.
I wish there was a test.
Heck, an option to change resolution within the quick settings drop down would be pretty nice as well. Maybe the option exists already.
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You can most likely achieve this quite easily using Tasker.
It's an app worth buying if you like to tinker and want full automation functionality.
I currently use it for specific apps to enable GPS, set portrait/landscape, set volume, etc and I'm planning on using it to set hqhd in certain apps once my s8+ arrives.
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Hey, did you find a way to do that via Tasker? Cause I cant make it happen on my S9+. If you have, contact me with the process.
I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
DB126 said:
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.
Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.
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I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
a1291762 said:
I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
Locklear308 said:
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol