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Looking for proven and tested higher capacity battery for HTC Desire

As above, anyone using higher capacity battery for their HTC Desire and it is tested and proven to last longer than the original batter? Can post the link to purchase the battery?
Thanks!

Before you buy another battery, have you read this thread about calibrating your battery?

And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.

Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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bryant_16 said:
Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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What kind of battery life do you currently get? Before (accidentally) calibrating my battery I was getting around 10-12 hours, now I'm getting around 36-42 hours.

I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.

Lennyuk said:
And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
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Hey buddy, which app do you use for underclocking? Cheers,

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I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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Well, I'm using the standard battery and have 26% remaining with "1d 10h" since unplugged (admittedly I haven't used the phone for that much in that time, just some internet usage, a couple of calls, but it's been constantly on WiFi or 3G to sync GMail).

Use SetCPU for underclocking, and use JuiceDefender to automatically turn off your data connection while the screen's off/locked.
It will still reconnect every 15 minutes to sync, and will remain connected as long as there's any continuing 3G traffic while the screen's off. Basically what it means is you're running one of the most power-consuming parts of your device only 1/15th of the time, which make a big difference. Text messages and voice calls come through instantly still - only things requiring a data connection like facebook, weather, twitter, etc will have any delay, and even then it'll only be 15 minutes at the most.
You can also try setting your phone to WCDMA-only, which means it won't be constantly trying to connect and maintain two radios simultaneously. GSM-only would be even better but depending on your carrier it might not work at all or might only work for voice.
With SetCPU try making a profile to automatically go into "powersave" mode when the screen's off, which will ensure the CPU never clocks up past its minimum speed during that time. It's still over 200 mhz, more than enough for anything you might want to do in the background. For normal operation, between 499 and 768 mhz as the maximum clock, depending on your preference, should be adequate and will save you a little bit of battery life as well all the time.
Also, download a widget to allow you to manually set screen brightness when you're indoors and the auto setting is useless. I have my screen brightness set to 15% while indoors and it's still plenty bright. I have the SLCD model, I don't know if that makes any difference.
My phone has been off the charger for 17 hours and 10 minutes. During that time, the screen was on for 2 hours and 29 minutes. I'm at 79% battery life with the standard battery.

Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.

paprkut said:
Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Yours able to charge it properly?

A small update to my previous post... I'm now at 32 hours, 38 minutes uptime, 4 hours 44 minutes awake time (screen on). Battery just reached 60 percent. Stock battery.
Remember when you made the choice to buy an Android, you were in effect saying you wanted to have a highly customizable miniature computer. Just like when you customize [insert your desktop OS of choice] to suit your taste, you need to configure your phone in order to get what you want out of it - namely, better battery life than with the standard settings.
HTC's goal with the Desire was to have a showpiece, it runs very fast and it looks good doing it. But they designed it with frequent charging in mind. Since most of us here, I imagine, would prefer to charge less often, we just need to configure the phone appropriately.
If you want a guaranteed solution, try this:
- Install NextSense rom (it's free, latest version right now is 5.3 AFAIK, I'm currently using 5.2 still)
- Install JuiceDefender - it's free on the market and its default settings are, for a change, very intelligent and effective.
- Install SetCPU - You can get it free on this forum. Set it to "interactive" mode with a bottom speed of 245 and a top speed of 806 to start with. The default is 998 at the top, but 200 mhz doesn't make a big difference in this case except to help battery life a bit. Once installed, add a profile for "screen off" which sets the phone to "powersave" mode. This will keep it running at the minimum clock any time you're not using it. Nothing running in the background while you're not even using the phone requires more than the minimum CPU speed.
- Install the Brightness Widget by Curvefish. It's free on the market. Put its widget on your desktop and keep your screen brightness at 25% while you're indoors. 15% is what I use, but 25% is one of the presets so it's a bit easier. I have an SLCD display so the brightness I get on auto might just be different from what OLED gets on auto, I don't know, but in any case for me it's way brighter than it needs to be.
- Set your screen timeout to no more than 2 minutes
- Make sure any apps that sync data do so in a reasonable interval. +/- 15 minutes won't ruin your day for most things.
- Under Wireless & Networks, set your phone's connection to WCDMA-only (3G-only). For many people this results in an increase to both signal quality and battery life, since it allows your phone to only run one radio at a time, making a significant difference. If it doesn't work for you, it's as simple as turning it back to the default setting.
- Disable haptic feedback and see if you mind the difference. Making all those little vibrations takes power too.
- Finally (obviously) don't run a live background, but you probably already know that.
Doing all of the above takes an hour or maybe two at most to set up and the difference in battery life is tremendous. It's simple to do, I worked out all of the above on my own and I've literally only had the phone for 4 days now I think, never touched a smartphone before in my life let alone an Android.
Give it a try, you have nothing to lose, and it will probably save you needing to buy a battery. Or, if you still buy a double-capacity battery, it'll mean you can run for like a week on a charge.
edit: also make sure to get the latest version of the radio driver, I don't have a frame of reference for comparison since I updated mine right away, but apparently it makes a fair bit of difference and probably gives you a more reliable cell signal in the process.
In case you think I'm exaggerating, here are some pics I just took.

What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.

What do you mean charge properly ??

Is it able to charge?

bryant_16 said:
What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
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"Ideal" settings are basically the way it's configured by default. You can't improve upon them much even by getting the "premium" upgrade unless your phone is rooted... but SetCPU is a better choice in that case anyway.
Just install it, hit "enable" after it's done auto-detecting your phone's capabilities, and you're done. It's really that simple.
Be sure to add it to your task killer exclusion list if you use one.

You saying the default option is for SetCPU or Juicedefender?
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)

Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?

cyron_at said:
Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419

bryant_16 said:
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
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Yes exactly. The pro version unlocks some more customization but ultimately won't add a whole lot to your battery life no matter how it's set up. I mean, beyond what the "regular" version does.

[Q] Ways to save battery life LG optimus 3d

Hi there!
I'm using the Thiaiz ROM on my o3d with the v6 supercharger script enabled.
Still my battery life is just as bad as it was before i was using any sort of rom or root?
Any ideas why this is and/or how to improve this fact?
Many thanks in advance!

i tried custom roms,but finally i return 10b stock ROM,after root and i remove unused system apps with systemapp remover 4.22 (before backup),use taskkiller 2.0.4,i think best stable version 10b stock ROM,sorry for my bad English
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is your data always on?
do you have screen on all the time?
Did you callibrate your battery?
Did you flash the rom at 100% battery?
For me, I'm using a modified version of Thiaiz's rom. I got both his scripts running and the v6 supercharger script. Data is always on and when that's not on, Wifi will always be on. So basically I am always in someways connected to internet. Running a live wallpaper. Got a couple of services doing stuff in the background... with my amount of use I get an average of 9 hours maxed. My amount of use is pretty much google voice, calling, random game here and there, and picture taking. Screen is off most of the time.
What I do for battery life, well first I'm using Go Launcher Ex. Surprisingly, choice in launcher does affect battery life in some ways. SetCPU, main Profile is at Performance governor. This isn't good for battery, but I want it to run at max while screen is on. I did set profiles for it to go down to 600 max, 300 min for when screen is off. Hmm, a few tweaks here and there that I can't recall.
No apps related to anything like Juice Defender.
Absolutely NOTHING that even appears to be a task killer.
Personally, I carry a few portable chargers with me everywhere I go so battery life doesn't matter to me. Which is why I can afford to use live wallpapers and etc.

DevJackey said:
is your data always on?
do you have screen on all the time?
Did you callibrate your battery?
Did you flash the rom at 100% battery?
For me, I'm using a modified version of Thiaiz's rom. I got both his scripts running and the v6 supercharger script. Data is always on and when that's not on, Wifi will always be on. So basically I am always in someways connected to internet. Running a live wallpaper. Got a couple of services doing stuff in the background... with my amount of use I get an average of 9 hours maxed. My amount of use is pretty much google voice, calling, random game here and there, and picture taking. Screen is off most of the time.
What I do for battery life, well first I'm using Go Launcher Ex. Surprisingly, choice in launcher does affect battery life in some ways. SetCPU, main Profile is at Performance governor. This isn't good for battery, but I want it to run at max while screen is on. I did set profiles for it to go down to 600 max, 300 min for when screen is off. Hmm, a few tweaks here and there that I can't recall.
No apps related to anything like Juice Defender.
Absolutely NOTHING that even appears to be a task killer.
Personally, I carry a few portable chargers with me everywhere I go so battery life doesn't matter to me. Which is why I can afford to use live wallpapers and etc.
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I am on V10K now and the Data always on or wifi if am at home and got a
couple of services doing stuff in the background like my emails and Facebook
with my amount of use I get an average of 14 hours maxed .
1: if u where using Go Launcher u most use home manger app it let u kill lg
stock launcher that u don't use it .
2: startup cleaner app from the market.
3: fast reboot app from the market.
Today I received my new 1800 mAh battery from e-bay I will try it then I let u
Know is it worth it or not .
Sorry for my bad English it's not my native language .

MAX6500 said:
I am on V10K now and the Data always on or wifi if am at home and got a
couple of services doing stuff in the background like my emails and Facebook
with my amount of use I get an average of 14 hours maxed .
1: if u where using Go Launcher u most use home manger app it let u kill lg
stock launcher that u don't use it .
2: startup cleaner app from the market.
3: fast reboot app from the market.
Today I received my new 1800 mAh battery from e-bay I will try it then I let u
Know is it worth it or not .
Sorry for my bad English it's not my native language .
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Actually, I don't really recommend the Fast Reboot app.
I tried it out before and its basically just a Kill All Task Killer. After you use it, you get more space and speed for about a couple of minutes before all the apps you've killed with Fast Reboot restarts back.
That's bad for battery life because having the apps in memory doesn't affect your battery life the way apps starting up and restarting does. If you use fast reboot too much, your battery life will go down FAST. Might as well just reboot phone normally

I've just bought a spare battery so i can set my cpu at 800 min and 1008 max with the SetCPU app. When screen is off i still set it all to the minimum though.
Seems like battery just will not be a selling point for the o3d so buying an extra battery or anything like that will be the best option!

Best battery Saver

Idk if this goes in Q/A or not I never had a Q/A section as I came from the amaze but anyway. What battery savers do you guys find best? I Use Batter Defender but doesn't seem to really extend it. Would i be better of not using one at all?

I use 3 programs to help me maximize my battery life.
1) Badass Battery Monitor to figure out what's sucking juice, how long I've left, and how long until I'm full.
2) 2x Battery to manage background data. This probably saves me the most battery by disabling that data transfer a lot of the time.
3) Lux Auto Brightness to tweak my screen brightness. It's pretty much on "dark" now all the time aside for when I'm in really bright light.

JuiceDefender
I use the free version and it's very good!

I think the most effective battery saver is to flash a kernel that has become voltage control features and undervolt the cpu.
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klin1344 said:
I think the most effective battery saver is to flash a kernel that has become voltage control features and undervolt the cpu.
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I'm not a fan of under volting the CPU. Mainly because if my understanding of Ohms Law is correct, it's pointless. And my personal experience with it seems to corroborate my feelings.
Under volting the CPU in my experience just introduces stability and reliability issues. I've personally never seen any battery savings from it, especially since the CPU should, theoretically, just draw more current (I) to compensate for the lower voltage (E). It's watts (P = ExI) that matter, and the CPU, if I understand correctly, is going to demand the necessary P for the frequency requested. So under volting either starves the CPU (it can't get enough P), or over currents it (it draws more I to compensate for less E). There are slight variations in each CPU, obviously, which may allow for a margin of under volting to be possible without issue, but the battery savings of this, I feel, are so small, any you notice are most likely a placebo effect. Your screen, and apps constantly polling the CPU or network are your biggest source of battery drain to worry about IMHO.
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I use Power Controls widget.
Unless I'm actively using internet, I make sure to turn 4G data to 2G. That alone saves so much battery. If I want further battery saved, I disable internet completely with a touch of a widget. Now my phone will last a week just by what phones do best: Making phonecalls and texting.

I'm on 2.1 GHz overclock processor and when battery goes below 30% it goes to 1ghz I can see the battery being saved
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k1llacanon said:
I'm on 2.1 GHz overclock processor and when battery goes below 30% it goes to 1ghz I can see the battery being saved
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With an higher frequency the phone will use more power, like a pc processor when you overclock it so this is natural, but overclocking/downclocking has nothing to do with undervolting, MadJoe is right.
With JuiceDefender for example you can set your 3g/4g to shut off when you don't use the phone, it activates 3g/4g when you use your phone and at regular intervals in backgroud so it can fetch emails etc.
All automatic so you don't have to switch off and back on network connection every time.
As network connection is one of the services that consumes the battery a lot this is really effective and really improves battery life!

I've read a lot of complaints about these PowerManagement Apps using more battery life then they safe.
I don't know if this is right.
At the moment I'm running CM9 with modified auto-brightness options, auto-sync and 2G/3G/WIFI always on.
I'm really happy with the battery life I get, so I don't see why you would need a Battery Saver app with this phone.

rickyoon.vegas said:
I use Power Controls widget.
Unless I'm actively using internet, I make sure to turn 4G data to 2G. That alone saves so much battery. If I want further battery saved, I disable internet completely with a touch of a widget. Now my phone will last a week just by what phones do best: Making phonecalls and texting.
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Heh, so why did you get a smart phone. Some older nokia's that can only talk and text can last for weeks on one charge, if you want a model # I can look it up 4 u.

Help getting the best battery life

What rom should I use and also what tweaks/scripts should I install to get the best battery life
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Hard to answer without testing some roms for yourself....
Synergy Rom is a good start which eliminates bloat from the provider...and then optimize the rom. Add a better kernel over stock like Imo or Ziggy and that took controlling CPU power (depending on your setting) can help gain better battery life...mean over 8+ or 12+ hours of life

30+ hours with almost 4 hours of screen time : cm10
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This isn't really a tweak or script, but turning off mobile data and using wifi helps a ton. Constantly searching for 3G or 4G connection is what kills my phone's battery.

Here is what helps me..
-turn off any data that doesn't need to be running in the background while you are using it i.e...gps, 4g, bluetooth. (Use "phone info" from the market to switch from 3g to 4g.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771840
-make email manual push. when you have email set to constantly search for new incoming messages it can run down more than needed. if nothing else switch to every 15-30 min.
- turn off all notifications that you dont need to be notified about
-screen brightness will be a HUGE battery eater. I have mine set at 1% most of the day which really helps. this screen is bright enough to have it that low and still see well.
-download "widgetsoid x2" free. a fully customizable toggle bar which will allow for easy on off for items like bluetooth, gps, wifi and gives you a brightness option to customize 3 settings. I have mine set for 1, 25 and 45%
-use setcpu or another app alike to control cpu. create a profile for "screen off".I set my profile at 348x486. this drops the processor while screen is in sleep mode and will save battery life.
-I dont know how effective this is, but I heard it helps and makes sense. Choose a dark wallpaper. Having a bright, full white wallpaper takes more battery life to display.
As for ROM's, its hard to say. there are so many things to take into consideration when someone says they got 30 hours on a rom vs the next person who only gets 12 hours. how much are they using it, what do they have running inthe background...etc. I tried both bean and synergy and I prefer bean. He just released R6 yesterday and people seem to like it a lot. I personally prefer R2, his original release. It has been super solid and I have had better results from it over 3.1, V5 and his late R6. My buddy has had GREAT results with synergy, but I did not. I gave it a week and ended up restoring back to bean.

download BatterySaver app from market. My s3 runs 12-15 hours on "Intelligent Mode"

Honestly, you can only do so much with software tweaks. If you're a hardcore power user, I suggest getting an extra battery of a similar size (~2000mah) or getting an extended battery.
As for what you can do to save battery, the only thing I can think of that people haven't already mentioned is turning off animations. It can make things feel a bit choppy, but you'll get things done faster, which means less screen time.

All Browsers destroy my battery

I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?

If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)

JohnC said:
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.

Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera

DB126 said:
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.

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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.

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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.

Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.

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I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.

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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not

Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life

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Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.

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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol