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Samsung is unveiling a new generation of Galaxy S phones. What does this mean for current Galaxy S users? Are we going to be neglected once Samsung unveils this newer and sexier line of galaxy phones? Could there be cross-development between this generation and the next generation of Galaxy phones? Any Captivate owners planning to abandon ship or reluctantly stay with your current phone?
I'm currently debating whether I should sell my Captivate in a few weeks (I'm sure holiday demand will help increase prices a little ) and grab the newer galaxy phones when they come out, or just stick with this already amazing phone. Decisions decisions...
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this...
or just stick with this already amazing phone
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..Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
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Mac11700 said:
I'm sticking with mine..I do have to ask you something though..Why are you in a quandary over this..if you actually think this.....Why change to something that may not be ? Are the specs that great on this unreleased as yet phone that you feel compelled to change...or [/I]do you just have to have the latest and greatest out all the time.?
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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My quandry is that although this is an amazing phone, the specs on the new phone make it seem amazinger! Also I'm kind of upset that these phones were released around June, I bought mine in August, and Samsung is releasing the next generation of phones in less than a year! At least Apple has the decency to wait a year I know all of this is based on here-say, but who doesn't want the latest and greatest???
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It's not like there is really anything on the new phones that the Captivate won't be able to do...
I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
We first started seeing leaks of the current galaxy S devices in April of 2009... It takes quite a bit of time to go from a few prototypes to actual production.
sticking with my current phone. couldn't afford to upgrade anyway..
There is always going to be something better"just around the corner" ......the wonders of modern technology
Not sure what more I can expect my phone to do at this point though....but I am sure I will upgrade again though not til next summer
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I'm hanging in. With the great developers here I can't see this phone going out of style for awhile yet.
You're the type of user that Samsung drools over.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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LOL I'm not usually the type of person to sell my current phone to get the latest and greatest but like I said, this new lineup looks amazing.
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By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
veive said:
By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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+1 to this
veive said:
By the same token, if you stand back and compare this with phones that were being sold 2 years ago our current lineup is pretty awsome...
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That's true, but we're not living in 2008 anymore! I'm want to have a handset that will last me through 2012
For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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For me this will last til 2012. Will it be top of the line, no. with the way the technology curve is going I don't see any phone lasting very long on top at all. Not unless they develope hardware that most likely the common public is not willing to spend.
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This phone will be plenty to last at least for two years until my contract is up.
Hell, I bought a PS3 in 2006 and Sony is just about to release the console's most anticipated game ever Gran Turismo 5.
And that will easily last a couple more years before a Playstation 4 is revealed.
Although there will be newer phones, I think the Captivate is future proof for a couple of years.
That is what open-source and apps are for.
I love the captivate currently and the prospect of new phones means more software support in the future that is compatible with it.
Gingerbread not being released on the captivate? A long as a similar phone is and it meets the specs looks like our kitchens will be cooking for a long time.
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This...I just hope they keep developing for the Cap. And if "they" dont, I know someone who will /grin
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I bought my Captivate off contract, and if Samsung releases another phone on AT&T that I like, I'll buy that phone off contract as well. I don't mind having a stockpile of working GSM phones
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So many choice phrases to say right now.
****ing mind boggling.
As a Vibrant owner (since I haven't sold mine yet) I'm kind of pissed at this. It's like they're throwing salt in the wound. Samsung throws 2.2 on that phone before the one that's currently out, gives it a FFC which it was supposed to have from the get go (the hole for it is even there on the motherboard), and makes it HSPA+ capable? Will somebody please tell them that nobody's ever going to support them again since their apparent solution to the no update problem is to sell you a slightly updated version of the exact same phone instead of bringing the existing one with the same basic hardware up to the now out of date OS that it should have had 6 months ago.
in this case.. the Nexus S must of been the sequel to the Vibrant 4G *cough* Android 2.3 *cough*
Vibrant (2.1) -> Vibrant 4G (2.2) -> Nexus S (2.3 - forever)
Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
I'm not going to fault T-Mobile for releasing a better phone 6 months later; that's become a long time in terms of hardware development. I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
The picture looks like the same form factor as the current Vibrant; so if all the rest of the stuff is the same, that tells us that our NS, or even our Vibrants, are still pretty much top of the line devices.
Since this looks to be the same build as the current Vibrant, I wonder if it will have the same creaks and groans.
Since they've changed the radio chip (to support 21Mbs) I also wonder if it will still have the AT&T 1900Mhz 3G band support like the current Vibrant.
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Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Vibrant released on July 15th of 2010.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
i dont wanna be a douche-er here, but, why isnt this in the vibrant forum?
Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Its how tech works, thats like me saying Nvidia shouldnt have created a GTX580 because i just bought a GTX480....how dare they!
Galaxy S2 will be revealed in February: Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/
Considering these phones will likely get enough developer support to see ports of any and all new iterations of Android released from Google (which usually end up being better and more feature-rich than stock anyway); considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting); considering bloatware doesn't *really* do any harm; and considering Google only releases two major updates a year to the current Nexus phone, it makes me reconsider my position and the worth of the Nexus line.
Everyone will have different preferences, of course, but a lot of me wishes Google would directly challenge Apple with a "Google Experience" phone that isn't meant only to appease developers. In other words, a phone that does compete hardware wise, that does have a more uniformed OS experience that would cater to average-users, while retaining the customizable options and variety that sets the Android experience apart from iOS. That wouldn't sound bad at all.
Perhaps I just got the wrong phone, or perhaps I'm finding out Android isn't for me. Unfortunately, i don't agree with Apple's "the average user is an idiot" philosophy either. For what it's worth, I'm just thinking out loud.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Please check your facts before correcting people.
The Vibrant's official release date was supposed to be July 21, 2010, but looks like it came out a week early though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#In_the_United_States
Let's see, August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan...that's 6 months right there, and by the time this new Vibrant Plus comes out (next month, maybe later) it will be 7-8 months or more. There's no announced release date yet that I've seen.
Also, I know we're talking about the T-Mo Vibrant, but it's only a slight variant of the original i9000. I have owned both, and even disassembled both. They both use the same display, touchscreen, same cpu, same gpu, same just about everything internally except the radio and the capacitive buttons. You can even put the i9000 FFC into a Vibrant by just removing some paint, and I've place the Vibrant's speaker assembly into an i9000.
My point was that the basic technology of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line of phones is almost a year old now. The i9000 was demo'd in April 2010, and available for purchase in June 2010. In the phone world, 9-12 months is a very long time...they need to provide something new and exciting to sell more phones, and a 21Mbs radio probably fits that bill.
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
Hey guys come on it's a "customer favourite"
If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
Why didn't the nexus s have the hspa+ and I feel like everyone that got the vibrant just got screwed.
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
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Agreed. Makes sense when you put it like that
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Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
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Yeah I agree. It reminds me of when the Nexus One came out and set a standard for smartphones and looked really classy which caused alot of people to become loyal followers.
I wonder how long Apples loyalty will last if they don't set a new standard like they did with the iPhone 4 and you have a bunch of crazy Android phones (Atrix, Bionic, Optimus, etc) breathing down their neck?
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And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
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Good point I agree.
Cash for non-subsidized iPhone 4? wow
No one is forcing you to buy it, just wait.
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If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
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Wow if that's true then Samsung are some eeeeeeeeeeeevil mf'ers
Good find there dloop thanks for posting
Wonder if Samsung is the one telling Google not to give us N1 owners gingerbread as well... :angry:
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considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting);
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There is no way that removing touchwiz is easy, and when i left the Captivate, (about a month ago now) there still wasn't a rom that had it 100% removed.
what will the next google phone be? running ICS with a quad core processor. ( i am saying like the Galaxy Nexus) .
They use the Nexus line to release the next version of Android....
So the next "Nexus" will probably be running something like Android 5.0, and no one has any idea what it will look like or have for specs, and Google probably doesn't even know yet.... Its February, and they release in late Q4.
As marton says, you shouldn't expect real info until we get closer to Fall of this year (roughly). Given google's acquisition of motorola, I'm looking out for a Droid Nexus, though obviously nothing's for certain yet.
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As marton says, you shouldn't expect real info until we get closer to Fall of this year (roughly). Given google's acquisition of motorola, I'm looking out for a Droid Nexus, though obviously nothing's for certain yet.
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It won't be a "Droid" branded phone. Droid is a Verizon property.
thank you, i am looking at new phones .. im due for an upgrade.
ianwardell said:
thank you, i am looking at new phones .. im due for an upgrade.
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Well the Galaxy Nexus is 3 months old (looking at the GSM version), so you know it'll be at least 8 months before the next one comes out...
*sigh* i feel like waiting for a google branded phone is a sure way to be forever updated .....but i would love another moto phone...my ATRIX is one of the most durable things iv ever used. Heck i dropped it off a ski lift today and it was fine ^.^ . ( landed in some leaves ) .
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Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
HTC- 2 one series
Samsung- 2 Galaxy series
Motorola- 2 Razr series
LG- 2 of whatever crap they are making
Nexus- 1 of the best pure phones a year.
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
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Agreed, So that our phones wont be obsolete three months later.....
Even thats still alot of phones thats 9 phones a year from the bigger companies. But it would help. I mean how many Galaxy phones does samsung need to release?
Yeah one phone per year like Apple.
Turb0wned said:
Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
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Is that like saying grocery stores should only be allowed to carry 2 kinds of cereal per year?
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Nate2 said:
Is that like saying grocery stores should only be allowed to carry 2 kinds of cereal per year?
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Agreed. If this were the case, companies would most likely make an expensive high-end phone, and then a crappy low-end phone. Thats not to good for business.
Fragmentation, in my opinion, is because of companies promising updates for a device and it never happens. They're lazy and want to make money off the latest devices. Its all smart business strategy.
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This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
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And it would also completely destroy one of the reasons I and many others like Android so much, which is that you have so much choice over your phone. There's pretty much an Android phone for everyone now, from budget ones for those who want to use it pretty much purely for communication purposes to the high end phones for power users. If companies were to release just one or two phones a year, it would have to be a flagship device and a budget one. There wouldn't be an option for people like me who want a mid-range phone.
Your argument is also slightly flawed in that of course there would be more official updates, but who needs official updates when you have XDA?
No.
The point of android is choice. From budget phones for the people that need a cheep smartphone, mid-range ones for most users, "flagship" phones for those that want the latest and greatest. Big screens, small screens, physical keyboards, SD slots, you name it...
I do, however, agree that some companies *khm* samsung *khm* release so many models that neither users or the company itself know what's out there.
The biggest issue is the fact that relatively few companies release even the new phones with the latest version. HTC for example has almost all 2012 phone running ICS with upgrades coming out for most 2011 phones. Samsung on the other hand has the S2 upgraded, and the S3 as the ICS flagship. Almost everything else is coming out with GB with upgrade possibilities being very slim...
Surely the simplest solution would be for a phone maker to guarantee updates for two years on some phones and this would also encourage people who want an up to date phone to also purchase one of those with guaranteed updates.
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Turb0wned said:
Phone companies should only be allowed to make 2 phones a year.
HTC- 2 one series
Samsung- 2 Galaxy series
Motorola- 2 Razr series
LG- 2 of whatever crap they are making
Nexus- 1 of the best pure phones a year.
This would fix so many problems with Android. Phones would actually be updated, less fragmentaion.
Thoughts...
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You've forgotten the HTC One V
The thing you have to realise is there are tiers when it comes to mobile phone markets.
Putting it simply there's the entry, mid, and high.
Someone who wants a powerful phone isn't going to be happy with an entry or mid level handset.
Someone who can only afford an entry level handset isn't going to be able to buy a high end phone.
Simples.
I hate samsung for lack of updates to such a great phones as e.g. sgs+
I have to say this here, if LG does not give the G2/Optimus G2 a software upgrade to take advantage of the new UI found in the G3, and some LG features in the next 7months after the T-Mobile G3, this is bad bad news.
Yes, the G2 has KnockOn and KitKat now. If the G2 never gets the improved UI of the G3, when the G4 comes out, G3 owners will be left without features. LG needs to support their devices, and I hope they continue.
I love my G3, but I really wish this was a new Nexus phone, because G2 and G3 users may have to wait ages for Android L after whenever it comes out.
Rule #1 of buying a new phone... Never buy it for what it COULD be... The phone functions perfectly fine on stock firmware... And there is only a few things in the LG G3 that have more function than what the G2 comes with now..... Its a pretty big upgrade physically, but not too much under the hood.
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Rule #1 of buying a new phone... Never buy it for what it COULD be... The phone functions perfectly fine on stock firmware... And there is only a few things in the LG G3 that have more function than what the G2 comes with now..... Its a pretty big upgrade physically, but not too much under the hood.
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^^^^THIS.
LG has done much better at supporting their devices than Motorola. Just ask all of us that bought Cliq, Cliq2, and the other model (I can't recall it's name). On purchasing the device it had a release date for gingerbread. The date was moved back for 2+ years only to have Motorola state it device was unable to run gingerbread. Within two months Motorola released a exact clone of the Cliq2 in Korea.
Leaving all stock phones on android 1.6, which is a huge difference to 2.3.
Manufacturers are in the business to make $$$$, at some point they will drop updates. If a user gets 18 months of updates, consider ourselves lucky. Just my two cents.
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LG has done much better at supporting their devices than Motorola. Just ask all of us that bought Cliq, Cliq2, and the other model (I can't recall it's name). On purchasing the device it had a release date for gingerbread. The date was moved back for 2+ years only to have Motorola state it device was unable to run gingerbread. Within two months Motorola released a exact clone of the Cliq2 in Korea.
Leaving all stock phones on android 1.6, which is a huge difference to 2.3.
Manufacturers are in the business to make $$$$, at some point they will drop updates. If a user gets 18 months of updates, consider ourselves lucky. Just my two cents.
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While I agree with you, LG is also just as guilty, Motorola has stepped up their updating as of late, hopefully it will last with Lenovo. I have never seen an update for LG F6 a nice midranger. I feel in the Android 4+ era the manufacturer should support a minimum of 12 months or at least 1 Android upgrade. With flagships this should be 18 months, especially since flagships have stagnated in the last 3 generations. I don't see how they can keep up these incremental updates and expect people to shell out $500+ unsubsidized or subsidized. I guess they assume whoever couldn't upgrade last year, will this year, but when the following update is once again nearly the same performance, I myself would not upgrade and hope people are smart enough to see that. Luckily thanks to xda we don't have too much to worry about, but I feel the manufacturers are shooting themselves in the foot. If this trend continues I see people going for the upper level bang-for-buck midrangers and upgrading those every 2 years. Just my thoughts, sorry for the rant
FYI it's not just Motorola, all manufacturers are guilty. My daughters last two phones have not had one update. One an HTC and one an LG.
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