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Hey guys. After enjoying this phone for the last year and a half the time has come to sell the device. A friend of mine wanted it so I sold it to him for a good deal. I'll still do whatever I can here for all of you. Thanks to everyone who supported me over the last year. I own a Xiaomi Mi Max now and am thinking of a buying a Huawei Honor Note 8 soon.
Thank you very much aj and good luck
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ajsmsg78 said:
Hey guys. After enjoying this phone for the last year (well making the roms for it mostly) the time has come to sell the device and move on to something else. I'll still do whatever I can here for all of you. Thanks to everyone who supported me over the last year. You can find the listing on swappa.com.
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A.J, special thank you for all the work you have done for the X2 community bro, hats off...
What phone are you moving into?
and Thanks!
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What phone are you moving into?
and Thanks!
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I was gonna pick up a Mi Max but now I'm not sure what I want. Maybe I should keep the X2 until something comes out in the US larger than 6.2". One of my close friends is from China and his parents and his family are always going back and forth. We were thinking of starting an online store similar to something like Gizok where he can have his family bring the phones back or ship them here and we can sell them. This way anyone in the US who buys them will be buying from a US seller. I'll also provide support on here. His aunt is going to bring me back a Mi Max in a few weeks. In China it's $299 for the 4GB 128GB version. On sites like Gizok, after shipping it will cost around $410-$420 for the same phone so I think I'm going to wait.
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I was gonna pick up a Mi Max but now I'm not sure what I want. Maybe I should keep the X2 until something comes out in the US larger than 6.2". One of my close friends is from China and his parents and his family are always going back and forth. We were thinking of starting an online store similar to something like Gizok where he can have his family bring the phones back or ship them here and we can sell them. This way anyone in the US who buys them will be buying from a US seller. I'll also provide support on here. His aunt is going to bring me back a Mi Max in a few weeks. In China it's $299 for the 4GB 128GB version. On sites like Gizok, after shipping it will cost around $410-$420 for the same phone so I think I'm going to wait.
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Mi Max looks pretty decent. I'd want a bigger screen. I'm still holding out for the X3 :/
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Mi Max looks pretty decent. I'd want a bigger screen. I'm still holding out for the X3 :/
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The X3 is out. It's called the Mediapad M2 7.0.. It has a fingerprint scanner and a snapdragon processor . I love the X2 but it's just too big to carry around all day when I'm not working. I want to try something around 6.5 inches.
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The X3 is out. It's called the Mediapad M2 7.0.. It has a fingerprint scanner and a snapdragon processor . I love the X2 but it's just too big to carry around all day when I'm not working. I want to try something around 6.5 inches.
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Oh, they changed the name.. nice , ill have to check that out, thanks! I wonder how the snapdragon 615 compares with the x2 cpu? 615 sound like a lower end cpu?
I hear you tho, 7 inch is a pretty big phone. but it does fit fine in my jeans pocket...
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Oh, they changed the name.. nice , ill have to check that out, thanks! I wonder how the snapdragon 615 compares with the x2 cpu? 615 sound like a lower end cpu?
I hear you tho, 7 inch is a pretty big phone. but it does fit fine in my jeans pocket...
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It should be faster than the Kirin in the X2 and will also probably get CM13.
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It shoukd be faster than the Kirin in the X2 and will also probably get CM13.
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Been looking over the specs, and really it doesn't look much different than the X2. slower cpu, less battery.. I'm not seeing anything compelling?
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Been looking over the specs, and really it doesn't look much different than the X2. slower cpu, less battery.. I'm not seeing anything compelling?
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I don't think huawei is focusing on the Mediapad models any longer because they don't sell that many. It stinks because we all like the larger phones but they are definitely for a niche market.
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I don't think huawei is focusing on the Mediapad models any longer because they don't sell that many. It stinks because we all like the larger phones but they are definitely for a niche market.
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True enough. We are a small market. I guess i'll just hang onto my X2 unless I find something 6.5 inch and larger that had better specs (faster cpu, more ram, android 6)
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True enough. We are a small market. I guess i'll just hang onto my X2 unless I find something 6.5 inch and larger that had better specs (faster cpu, more ram, android 6)
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I don't think huawei is focusing on the Mediapad models any longer because they don't sell that many. It stinks because we all like the larger phones but they are definitely for a niche market.
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I'm definitely a part of this niche and love this device. My needs definitely include a big screen and especially battery and some manufactures are already starting to include batteries of over 6000mah. Keep me in the loop if you find something as good as the X2!
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I'm definitely a part of this niche and love this device. My needs definitely include a big screen and especially battery and some manufactures are already starting to include batteries of over 6000mah. Keep me in the loop if you find something as good as the X2!
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Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra ?
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Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra ?
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I haven't even seen a place to buy one. Even on eBay the preorders are selling for $799. Totally inflated and ridiculous.
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I haven't even seen a place to buy one. Even on eBay the preorders are selling foe $799. Totally inflated and ridiculous.
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So I have been considering the Honor X2 for a while as an upgrade from my Xperia Z ultra because I wanted the extra screen size and nice to have smaller bezels.
Is it wise to buy it still or is the new M2 better or lower specs? I would love it to have NFC as I use it often with my Sony camera which the X2 does not have.
Thanks!
Yessssss ....
You are not selling it which means all the devices we have we get updets and fixes ..
Thank you AJ
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Xiaomi Mi Max looks decent.
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So I have been considering the Honor X2 for a while as an upgrade from my Xperia Z ultra because I wanted the extra screen size and nice to have smaller bezels.
Is it wise to buy it still or is the new M2 better or lower specs? I would love it to have NFC as I use it often with my Sony camera which the X2 does not have.
Thanks!
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The M2 7.0 has a fingerprint scanner and a snapdragon processor but the X2 is more mature and has development going on for it. I'd just get the X2. I had a Z Ultra before my X2 and I hated it. If you like your Z Ultra then you'll really like the X2. Get the 702L model it you can.
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The M2 7.0 has a fingerprint scanner and a snapdragon processor but the X2 is more mature and has development going on for it. I'd just get the X2. I had a Z Ultra before my X2 and I hated it. If you like your Z Ultra then you'll really like the X2. Get the 702L model it you can.
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I love my Ultra but want a slight bigger screen and bigger battery life. I was looking to get the GEM-703L, I thought it was better to get that one if possible...isnt it?
Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
clsA said:
I got mine on a black friday sale and I'm happy with it. but at full price I would consider something else.
This phone has the Kirin processor and you can root it but the custom rom's will be few because of the processor
The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone but the bootloaders are locked.
I don't know anything about the Sony.
If you have $400 for the full priced H8 I would recommend a used Nexus 6p or a One plus 3 for flashing customs roms and developer support.
If those phones are too big for your taste theirs also the HTC 9 and 10 to consider... they have a great developer community
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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The Xperia X has the edge in performance over the H8 but it overheats when using the camera idk if sony fixed it or not.Axon 7 is pricey for me 600 dollars but its a great phone.The Xiaomi MI 5S is cheap and packs perfromance with the SD 821 but being a Xiaomi doesn't it have poor software ?
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Hey guys im looking to buy a new phone and for my budget i can get the Honor 8 , Sony X performance or the Galaxy S6 . Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it over the other phones i listed ? Also how is the root ,rom , kernel support and is it easy to flash because i saw a guide for rooting with 12-13 steps including typing imei in huawei's site to get a code and so on .
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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I just bought the Honor 8 after a long evaluation and endless comparisons (price for me was 320 EUR discounted, so really mid-range price territory).
The hardware is great and having such a fast fingerprint sensor is really awesome. Biggest two drawbacks for me are:
- the user interface: I don't like EMUI at all and it's pretty far from the Android standard, but you can use a custom launcher and hopefully an unofficial near-stock theme will be available soon;
- the screen: has a quite poor calibration and looks like a significant step back from my previous Sony Z1 Compact.
Sony devices are nice but heavily bloated. Also I was quite disappointed with my Z1 Compact camera: it looks like they didn't provide adequate support in the transition from KitKat to Lollipop and there was a performance degradation killing an otherwise interesting sensor. I haven't tried a Samsung since the death of my S3 due to eMMC failure and my experience with that device had not been stellar (given I did paid full price for it), but I have read that the UI has improved in the latest interations.
As for root and custom ROMs the thing is: while every device can be rooted one way or another, for a good custom ROM support you should consider only Qualcomm Snapdragon chipsets (the Honor has a HiSilicon Kirin) and even in that case the proper support for camera and other advanced hardware features could be not easy. So you may root the Honor but don't expect an AOSP / LineageOS ROM to work properly (there is some work underway but if Huawei doesn't change its politics I wouldn't expect acceptable results).
As for me the only device I could have bought instead of the Honor was the HTC 10, but at a cost significantly higher.
P.S.: Xiaomi devices are interesting but most of them have limited LTE band support, so you may want to check against the bands used in your country (the GSMArena website has a great search tool you could take advantage of).
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Im in the same state of endless comparisons and watching reviews for phones . From reviews and speed tests the Honor 8 seems like a great deal , in app opening comparsion it was leading 15 to 5 againts the Iphone 7 Plus if 100% true in normal use its a pretty fast phone and is concidered as one of the best 400 dollar phones . My concern is the UI and support i will slap google now launcher but for support updates and so on its a Huawei after all and i don't have experience with them . Most of my root and rom adventures were made with my Galaxy S3 Neo because it came with Android 4.4.2 and never got an update and with the help of roms it had 6.0.1 from the S6 with an overclocked Kernel and slow motion camera mod. All of the reviews for the X performance say that Sony are asking too much (700$) for the flaws it has . I put a thread on the Sony forum but no response yet . For me the price is lower 430$ for the Xperia but if the bugs are not fixed by Sony its dissapointing . I really like the Galaxy S6 but after all its a 2015 model . Xiaomi MI 5s supports my 4G network but being a Xiaomi software wise i think its badly optimized.
Sheldd said:
Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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I have the Honor 8 and have been using it for the last 3 months or so.
I'm not into all these tests but I know that the phone has stood up to everything that I have thrown at it and I use my phone allot.
If you want a good, solid phone that looks good and will be kept upto date for the next couple of years then get the Honor 8
My flat mate has got the pixel and after using it I really can't see how it's worth the extra couple of £100
John
In my mind, the only phones that are worth getting if you want to flash roms are OnePlus and Google, the rest are not worthwhile. These two phones are the only ones that will get great support on XDA. If this is your purpose then don't even bother considering any other brand, it's just a waste of your time. Even if it is available for other phones you run into hassle with losing warranty by unlocking bootloader and doing more steps than needed. It's better just to get a OnePlus where all the custom rom features are already built in.
If you can get the Honor 8 for $300 new or less and wants a good camera it's worth it. I'm very happy with the camera for still shots which is what I mainly bought the phone for. It's the best camera I've used outside of Samsung so far, I think the Huawei and Samsung are the tops right now for camera. It's better than the Nexus 6P in term of dynamic and colors. Also Huawei currently make the best fingerprint scanner, albeit on the back. The hardware is fast, but expect lots of thermal throttling while gaming.
You will have to deal with some goofy battery management which turns off notification and background running apps, although there is a way to fix this but you have to whitelist the apps in two different nearly hidden places in the settings, although the new Nougat updates is supposed to improve this.
In term of updates support, I think it's pretty poor, at least in term of speed. Many phones are already on Nougat before this one. I do like the fact they made the stock firmware publicly available. The main thing that hampers this phone is the software.
Hey there. I was in the dilemma you are right now two months ago when I bought the Honor 8. I'm not disappointed at all, in the past few years I've used almost every brand there is, HTC, Samsung s3, Lg G2, Sony z3 Compact, Moto G 1 and 2, Sony z3, z3+ and m5, and my last phone was the Huawei p9 lite, I was astonished as to how that "cheap phone" camera could beat my Sony z3+ that I loved so much. That's when I paid attention To Huawei, and man they're doing a great job. Yes maybe in development you won't be able to do much, if that's what you're looking for, maybe it's better to look elsewhere, but in terms of battery, daily use performance and heavy usage, camera, good looking phone, this is a great deal. I bought for 400 when it was released. A few weeks ago my brother got it at 330, which was like stealing haha. And I know this month it will get Nougat. Emui software will be better with the update, not saying it was bad but many disliked it, I'm fine with it to be honest. And Honor offers 2 years of support after the date of release. So you'll get Android updates until mid-2018.
Hope this helps.
I really don't recommend buying a phone at the moment, as u know it's a new year
New phones and chipsets are released and prices eventually will drop. I recommend waiting for couple of months if you can.
Regarding the Honor 8 itself, I know there's something about this phone makes you want it although u can just save a little and get axon 7 or 1+3 and it's not a perfect phone either it lacks some things like OIS for videos and 4K for video.
Other than that it offers a great camera you should check threads here for camera samples, it does take very great still images!
I saw lots of comparisons too between that phone and others. Well in everyday usage there's no difference between it and a snapdragon 820 powered phone regarding opening apps and so .. The kirin 950 is pretty strong scoring 90K+ in antutu benchmark which is okay.. You shouldn't be worried about a game that won't run smoothly on it at the moment! But it's not the best developer friendly unlike snapdragon chipsets!
Beside all that it's a pretty phone ( sexy design, great camera, decent battery & good performance ) it has USB C and fast charging and the chipset supports Vulkan API which makes somewhat it future proof. Also about the EMUI, it can grow on you over time it has neat features not laggy as people might suggest it has theme engine too plenty of customizability and gestures, I don't see it lacking other than the looks of the pure android but that can be fixed by using nova launcher.
Bottom line, if u don't mind the UI and the development area ( it exists but it may take a while ) definitely go for it .. Otherwise u may consider saving or buying One Plus 3 if you're a flashaholic there are plenty of ROMs for the one plus, And a strong development community!
I have the FRD-L14 (64 GB USA version) for $340 total from Amazon. It has replaced my Sony Z3 Compact that I had for two years bought for $500. Tell you what the Honor 8 is worth the money. Fast and responsive. The 4 GB of memory is awesome since apps stay in memory so multitasking is mostly instant. 64 GB memory + 64 GB microSD = awesome. Camera is fast enough with good quality. The screen is the only downside compared to flagship phones costing $600+ but I came from the Sony Z3 Compact display so it's not a problem for me. Maybe I am also lucky but I don't have a blue-ish tint on certain reviews.
The best thing about this is it has Band 12 LTE for TMOBILE. I now have 3 bars of signal sitting in my office instead of 1 or zero or searching all the time. The HD Voice call is also super clear. The speaker phone, though, could be better. The fingerprint scanner is just as good as the Samsung or Apple. Two THUMBS UP. I would upgrade to the Honor 9-10 down the road assuming they keep the price competitive.
Price of Honor 8
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I have around 450 max for a phone and the Oneplus 3 would have been great because it was 430 dollars but now they only sell the 3T for about 500 and its an import so i think it will have taxes . I looked at the One M9 and the one thing i didn't like is that it is missing a fingerprint scanner and from reviews they say if your chosing between the M9 and S6 go for the S6 so idk . The HTC 10 is good but if i had the money for it (650$) i would have bought the S7 Edge .
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I just bought a Honor 8 from a dealer on ebay..paid $250....New but no box..
Exactly as the others say the Honor 8 is a great phone! It is fast, good looking and has a great camera! So in 2015 I was looking for a new phone to replace my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this seller showed me the Honor 7 but it didn't really appeal to me that much (Mostly because of EMUI) and I decided to keep on using my S4 Mini.
But a few weeks ago I got the Honor 8 for 325€ (Discounted) even if I didn't really like EMUI that much I must say, it is better than I expected! Now there is a few things I still don't like in EMUI (Like the split Notifications and Shortcuts) but in the new EMUI 5 update that is currently being rolled out, it will just get a whole lot better and many of the things I find annoying is fixed
So would I recommend this phone? Yes I would definitivtly recommend this phone for someone who is looking for a great phone but still not to expensive, even though it doesn't have that many custom ROMS yet (Coming from someone who used Custom ROMS a lot previously) I think we will get more custom ROMS within a few months
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Does the honor 8 have any bugs and would you recommend it
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I've been using it since 1st December 2016 and I wouldn't recommend it, 'cause:
1. It has no system-level equalizer;
2. It has no system-level audio balance tweaker(?);
3. When using the app com.rubycell.pianisthd, the audio output is full of "clicks"; no longer with android 7
4. It's kirin-based, therefore "good luck" with custom roms.
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I'm not gonna sell it any soon 'cause I can kinda live with it thanks to Poweramp, but come on, the audio subsystem of this phone is sh*t. You should only get it if you're deaf or for some reason you don't enjoy listening to music.
I apologize for being this rude.
The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
PErsonally, I like it over the S7 Edge. Faster and smoother.
Handful of reasons the S7 Edge is the daily driver:
Larger screen
Better video and slightly better camera shots
Audio can be tweaked
Only major con is the ugly IOS skin on the Honor 8. Personally i like it a ton.
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Exactly how clsA said,it's a very good phone. It's fast and have a nice design. But it's Huawei after all, so the custom roms will be a problem. I would sugest you to look for OP3 or OP3T if you want a good development comunity. If you don't care about development too much and want a fu**ing nice looking phone i would recommend it xD
IDK what to say about S6 and Xperia X, as i know the S6 is bad in battery and Xperia X doesn't seems to be as good as the Honor 8.
Other phones to look : Axon 7, Nubia Z11,Xiaomi MI 5,Asus Zenfone 3 (No custom roms).
There are more but i dont remember them.
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Unfortunately the OP3 and OP3T have no microSD-cardslot.
You have to consider this.
the Honor 8 has the following advantages.
- fairly fast (Arm Cortex A72 CPU's) and due to a FHD-screen the gfx-perfomance is even slightly faster than e.g. the galaxy S5.
--> so many (older) high-end games run quite good.
- great screen (wide gamut LCD screen)
- IR-blaster
--> and reviewers don't mention this but the Honor's IR-blaster is both output AND input, which means it can "learn" codes from other remotes while the e.g. Samsung's can't.
--> works also good with other IR-blaster apps too.
- microSD-slot
- price compared to known-brand flagships and mid-range devices (bar the oneplus models)
--> the standard Honor 8 (32GB) has a great price/performance-ratio IMHO and there's usually some sale somewhere
--> got mine with a free 64GB card so it was even greater value for money
- camera is good for the price
--> great quick shortcut (with volume-keys or fingerscanner-button)
- EMUI has some nice tricks with the fingerprint-scanner
--> e.g. there's a "safe" to store private files which can be locked/unlocked with fingerprint
- bootloader CAN be unlocked and is fairly easy to root.
--> Huawei themselves supply the unlock codes which is great, isn't it?
- beautifull design. It looks great and the camera is completely flush
- mirrorcast (to non-Samsung TV's) works fine without rooting and tampering with the build.prop
disadvantages.
- it is VERY slippery
- not as fast as particularly Oneplus 3 (and 3T) which cost the same
--> Honor 8 premium cost the same as OnePlus 3/T and has the same internal storage capacity
- some people prefer QHD
--> this doesn't bother me personally but it might be a dealbreaker for some
- no EQ on the standard music app or anywhere else on the device
--> so you need another music-player if you really want this or other audio-enhancements.
- Samsung's still have better camera's for low-light photography especially the S6 (IMHO the S6 is even better than the S7 in this respect)
- no DLNA so you'll need an optional app for this. Though screencast works fine.
--> I tried the old Skifta-app myself from qualcomm and it works great. Unfortunately you have to look hard to find this though asit isn't on Play anymore.
IMHO the Honor 8 is a great little device. Sufficiently powerful and it has most of important points covered.
As for me, the SD-card slot, IR-blaster and the better deal (with a free 64GB card) were the main reasons to go for the Honor8 instead for the OP3T
There's probably a lot more that I haven't covered but I have my device just 4 days so I'm not a "pro" just yet
So I hope this is helpful.
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The aesthetics are amazing and the performance is really decent. The software is mediocre, though it might be better with the Android & UI update--but that's been a slow process and I've yet to see the update myself.
The hardware is impressive and in many ways exceeded my expectations. The Kirin 950 opens apps quickly and the 4gb of what I believe to be DDR3 memory allows for multiple app usage without any trouble. DDR4 would be amazing, but it holds its own with what it has.
The GPU is only OK. It runs a bit hot when in 1080 mode, playing games like War Robots. 720 seems to cool it down a bit. No problems with older games like the GTA series, no problems with Real Racing 3 or the Riptide series.
Still, the 3d AnTuTu benchmarks combine for a score of about 20k, where as the OP3T is over 40k combined. Overall, my phone grabbed a 94,000. The overall for the OP3T is over 135,000. The difference in the score is due to the GPU and memory being slower than the OP3T's Adreno 530 and 6gb of DDR4. The Kirin 950 itself, holds its own against the Snapdragon 820 and 821.
The price point is all over the place in the US market. I picked mine up for $319.00, but I've seen them on shelves for $400.00 USD. At 300, it's not bad, but if you are going to hit the 400 mark, might as well go with the OP3T.
I have 2 weeks left to return mine, if I don't see the update by then, it will go back and I'll drop few extra for the OP3T. If I get the update and it feels smooth, I'll probably stick with it.
Would I recommend it? If you can get it for 300 USD or close to it, yes, it's a good phone for that price point. If you see it in your market and it is closer to 400, go for the OP3T. If you LOVE mods, regardless of price, go for the OP3T.
Note: The ZUK Z2 Pro is in the same price range, but I hear the software is awful and build quality questionable, that's why I didn't bring it up in comparison.
Note II: I've updated to B360 via Firmware Finder. So far the phone doesn't feel too much different, but there are changes. The UI is a bit cleaner, my benchmark went up by 6000 overall, but no change in GPU scores. The app drawer is laid out nicely, the notification bar looks better, the native sms message system is upgraded and more functional.
I have to stick with my original opinion. If you can get the phone for 300-ish USD, if you are OK with WYSIWYG, it's a solid, aesthetically beautiful device. If you are creeping into the 400.00 range, take a very serious look at the OP3T. Again, if you are a modder or love the bleeding edge, OP3T is your device.
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Thanks for the long and explained point of view it seems that only on the honor 8 forum people comment on stuff like this because it made a thread on the x perfromance forum still 0 comments . The OP3T is a great phone and comes for about 470 dollars . Over the past few days i've got the conclusion that im not getting the honor 8 because its priced at 420 ish dollars and for and for the same price i can get the xperia which has the SD820 with a 1080p screen so it will perform 23 MP camera will fine compared to my current 12 or i can get for 460 the Zte Axon 7 also with SD820 2k display and amazing audio and if i go even higher i can get the S7 for 490 . But im thinking on not going too far for the S7 because the Xperia and Axon offer the same performance just losing on camera and ips sertification if i got with the axon but it has one of the best if not the best speakers and headphone output.
I just got a used one off of Amazon for $235. Honestly, I think it's worth that price, but I would recommend waiting for MWC at the very least. I only pulled the trigger on it right now because the only other phones in the price range I had (about $200 - $300), were the upcoming MOTO G5 series. I have been using a Moto E 2015, but I felt that since the Honor 8 had higher specs, a better design, a better camera, etc. that it was worth it.
Additionally, I think Huawei promised 2 years of support and the phone just came out, so we will definitely see Android O at the very least (which is pretty great).
Hi everyone, an year ago I bought my Xperia z3 on Amazon on a sale for 200€.
Now the screen is staring to have some problems (dead pixels, warmer spots ecc), so Amazon told me I could either send it back to them and have my 200€ fully recharged OR send it to a Sony repair center.
Now my question is: is it worth repairing it under Sony's warranty? Or can I buy a better phone than Xperia Z3 for 200-250€?
Thanks in advance!
Have a look at the Honor 6x or the Nubia Z11 Mini S. Not really high-end compared to Sony Z3 though, but you can't get really high-end at a price of 250 € by focusing on the "standard" manufacturers (Samsung, Sony, LG, etc.).
You get quite good HW for little money when you decide to get phones from chinese manufacturers, yet the SW updates aren't always delivered and you may get bloatware and perhaps even spyware.
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Have a look at the Honor 6x or the Nubia Z11 Mini S. Not really high-end compared to Sony Z3 though, but you can't get really high-end at a price of 250 € by focusing on the "standard" manufacturers (Samsung, Sony, LG, etc.).
You get quite good HW for little money when you decide to get phones from chinese manufacturers, yet the SW updates aren't always delivered and you may get bloatware and perhaps even spyware.
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Thanks for replying. That's what I'm worried about, that z3 is still better than those phones. I mean, I could buy a Huawei p9 lite but meh, maybe Honor 8? That's a nice upgrade. Or I'll keep my money and buy some random xiaomi note, then put lineage asap
Well, the Honor 8 is about 100 € above your range.
The P9 is an alternative, the wife of a co-worker has it and is satisfied with it.
The Xiaomi Note is a phone from 2015, so the same as the Z3. And it doesn't have LTE 800, in certain countries it could be a problem.
So we all know the op6 is coming soon and many of us are hoping to upgrade our outdated devices,but with Oneplus success in the market in recent years, their prices are continuosly going up,,maybe by small amounts on each phone,may be a big rise with the op6,we don't know yet
Anyway.What if the op6 launches with a price you cant afford.
What alternative devices have you in mind.
I have more or less decided that I will get a nokia 7 plus if the op6 is too expensive because it has what I need.Big battery and promise of frequent updates.Ive considered the honor view 10 and mi mix 2s also
What other mid to high range devices are you considering if tbe op6 is out of reach ?
ASUS Zenfone 5
only galaxy s9+ with unlocked bootloader.
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
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What about the hardware? How can you ever bring this as an alternative?
Snapdragon 660? 4gig ram?
In this case xiaomi mi a1 is better, Android one
Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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Yes absolutely you are right,20 to 30% difference in price of 5t and 7+ depending what country your in.It will be interesting to see what happens with the op6,but as you say it will certainly be higher.
I have been researching a lot of different devices to replace my op3 lately.I look at all the reviews,watch the youtube videos and join the forums to see what users are saying.
If I was to buy a phone now based on hardware alone and value for money Id go for the Honor view 10 with the kerin 970,but Honor are poor with updates.The Zenphone 5z looks great,but I dont think it will be available in UK/Ireland till July.It will though be cheaper than the op6 and 5t.
The Nokia 7+ is out May 2nd on Amazon,Im hoping the op6 is announced before then so I can make an informed decision,but could be ridiculous prices in which case Ill happily go for the 7+ which should be more than good enough for day to day use, especially as a non gamer.I don't play around with Roms as much as I use to and will be happy eith tbe long battery life and regular updates.
I do like oxygen os though and Oneplus are great with updates and theres a great community.Will be interesting to see what happrns within tbe next month or two
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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+1
4 lenses ftw
Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I'm in the UK and I'm hoping for the Essential Phone 2 to come, otherwise pretty sure it will be the OnePlus 6, if it doesn't. I live in hope.
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Hoping to get the OnePlus in my country
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What country are you in? Has it not had OnePlus before?
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Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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same here looks like the 6 is going to be too expensive for me and the honor 10 does look really inviting now that it has been announced
If OnePlus 6 is a flagship killer, let's see what are available at the flagship level in my country at 64GB variant
835:
Pixel 2 XL - Rs.57,995
LG V30+ - Rs.44,990 (Only 128GB)
Nokia 8 Sirocco - Rs.49,900
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - Rs.67,900
Mi Mix 2 - Rs.32,999 (Only 128GB)
845:
OnePlus 6 - Expected around Rs.35,000
Samsung Galaxy s9/s9+ - Rs.57,900 / Rs.64,900
Kirin 970:
Honor v10 - Rs.29,999 (Only 128GB)
Huawei P20 Pro - Expected around Rs.50,000
Huawei P20 - Expected around Rs.30,000
The only problem which I see out for OP6 is the territory it's venturing into. Those who are spending north of 30k won't mind spending extra for getting what they needed. Mediocre Camera will definitely kill OP6 on arrival since every single unit there gives you the best. If Huawei P20 Pro comes around 40k. It'll cannibalize OP6 hands down. But i think Huawei P20 might be in OP6 territory and might give some serious trouble for them.
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
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For customization, I agree. OnePlus just does that better than all the other Android based smartphones out there. For other features though, I'm getting less and less impressed by their offerings each year, and when they get too expensive, I'll simply stop getting them,. I'll probably still get the 6 though, but if their prices get as high as iPhone level, I'm out.
I know it's not a new phone, as it's been out a while, but I quite liked the Razer Phone. So might get one of those if the OP6 doesn't impress me enough. But let's wait and see.
Hello Ladies & Gentleman...
Long Time No Chat With.. My XRN5-AI has been doing quite well Stock-Rooted.. So, there has not been much for me to say here..
But.....
The Redmi Note 7 Pro is in the pipe!
And.. It looks SHARP..
Circle Notch
Snapdragon 660
48 MP Camera
USB-C
Hold The Price Point... and I'm sure it will be a winner.. Anyway check out one of the 1st Videos on UTube right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7gkeZKxYs
Meh, I'm happy with Note 5 and plus don't like notch phones.
notch part is a no no for me. ill pass
Let's wait for camera tests
Well I don't find any Good reason to upgrade to Redmi Note 7
It's still more of a incremental upgrade, SD660 & SD636 are basically same except for lower clock speeds and GPU. And in my daily usage it works great. Battery is capacity is same in both and it runs easily for a day with heavy usage.
I am ok with the 18:9 display with bezels than jump on the Notch trend. And for the Camera, with Arnova Gcam and some patches (nHappyman/BBD) it takes great shots in daylight. Glass back is premium, but metal body of RN5 isn't bad either. It's not even a year since RN5 launched here, still in warranty.
Only great thing to upgrade will be USB C and DAC.
And Where else will I get such Great Development for a Phone with almost all toms available & Thug Devs ?
Not Really..
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Well I don't find any Good reason to upgrade to Redmi Note 7
It's still more of a incremental upgrade, SD660 & SD636 are basically same except for lower clock speeds and GPU...
I am ok with the 18:9 display with bezels than jump on the Notch trend. And for the Camera, with Arnova Gcam and some patches.
Glass back is premium, but metal body of RN5 isn't bad either.
It's not even a year since RN5 launched here, still in warranty.
Only great thing to upgrade will be USB C and DAC.
And Where else will I get Development with Thug Devs ?
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You Sound Happy...
You Also Sound Like Someone Who Just Invested Their Money In The Note 5..
I Agree.. It's a GREAT phone... For It's Time..
But.... Said To Say.... It is now a " 2 Generation Old Phone*....
My plan was.. to sell mine. ( Upgrade Cash Almost There..) But now, I'm just going to throw it in a cabinet ( A 4/64 I bought new for $199.00 USD )
Because Resale Value only nets about $0.55 Cents-To-A-$1.00 (USD) and being 2 Generations Old.. The Resale Value is only going to Decrease.
You use the term "Incremental Upgrades"... That's Pretty Much What All Models Do...
And Development Will Be Just As Strong... This is not the Note 6.. That, was / is a B.S. device IMO... Nothing was done except to add a 2nd sensor and a notch..
The Note 7 is that Leap Forward.. to compete with the growing "Bang For Your Buck" devices coming in waves in the Midrange/ Upper Midrange Segment.
Huawei 8x.. Samsung M10 / M20.. Asus Pro M2... Realme 2... Lenovo Z5 Pro... all have to watch out for the Redmi Note 7 Pro / AI
This one's specs indeed raise the bar.. :victory:
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You Sound Happy...
You Also Sound Like Someone Who Just Invested Their Money In The Note 5..
I Agree.. It's a GREAT phone... For It's Time..
But.... Said To Say.... It is now a " 2 Generation Old Phone*....
My plan was.. to sell mine. ( Upgrade Cash Almost There..) But now, I'm just going to throw it in a cabinet ( A 4/64 I bought new for $199.00 USD )
Because Resale Value only nets about $0.55 Cents-To-A-$1.00 (USD) and being 2 Generations Old.. The Resale Value is only going to Decrease.
You use the term "Incremental Upgrades"... That's Pretty Much What All Models Do...
And Development Will Be Just As Strong... This is not the Note 6.. That, was / is a B.S. device IMO... Nothing was done except to add a 2nd sensor and a notch..
The Note 7 is that Leap Forward.. to compete with the growing "Bang For Your Buck" devices coming in waves in the Midrange/ Upper Midrange Segment.
Huawei 8x.. Samsung M10 / M20.. Asus Pro M2... Realme 2... Lenovo Z5 Pro... all have to watch out for the Redmi Note 7 Pro / AI
This one's specs indeed raise the bar.. :victory:
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Although you're not wrong, but what I feel is, if you gotta upgrade, upgrade to something in the SD8XX range,whether 845/855. There's not really much point in jumping from a mid-ranger to mid-ranger device. You'd never really feel much of a difference in performance except in build quality ofcourse.
Entitlement
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Although you're not wrong, but what I feel is, if you gotta upgrade, upgrade to something in the SD8XX range,whether 845/855. There's not really much point in jumping from a mid-ranger to mid-ranger device. You'd never really feel much of a difference in performance except in build quality ofcourse.
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You're Entitled To Your Opinion...
And.. I Respect That.
But, let me give you an example...
I'm very fortunate to have a fairly late model Toyota 4-Door Sedan paid off in full.
Does that mean in 2020 when I plan on buying my next vehicle.. I should "Upgrade" to something more Expensive? Faster? because it needs to be a more powerful V-6 than the 301 horsepower V-6 I currently have?
Or.. can I move up because I like the way the newer model looks? or the Technology that it possesses? Even though the power may be the same or slightly better..
How About Value?
That's important.. right?
At what point do you move on from something when you are getting diminishing value... does the Note 5 Pro / AI still do the job? Yes. Does My Toyota still get me where I need to go? Yes.
But that does not mean if I have the means.. I would not buy another equal model that has been updated with better specs / options..
That applies to my Toyota and my Redmi device. :victory:
I will keep my device as long as 5G network establish everywhere like 4G network
Better buy Oneplus or Huawei
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Better buy Oneplus or Huawei
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Not really same category.. You are talking here 200usd vs 500usd.. then better buy pixel, or mate 20 pro for 1000usd + with this logic..Also huaweii is really shady and dont allow bootloader unlock anymore, so for a lot of people here its not an option.
No Shame There..
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I will keep my device as long as 5G network establish everywhere like 4G network
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Yeah Buddy..
I can't blame you there.
There is not a thing wrong with the XRN5 Pro / AI.. ESPECIALLY running Stock.. Batterylife is just amazing... I can't kill it in a day.
I'm still on 9.5.17... and will NEVER leave it as long as I use this device.. I am rooted for a couple of apps and TWRP for backup but that's it.
After seeing the "Hole Punch" trend that is going to the 2019 thing to do.. I'm not impressed.
So, for me an upgrade has been narrowed down to the One Plus 7 or Mi Mix 3s , 4, 3+... whatever they are going to call their Snapdragon 855 version.
I 'll keep the XRN5-AI in it's box.. and use it for those wild nights in the streets... :angel:
For me I think it is too early to jump to redmi note 7 from Redmi note 5 ai.
2019 is the year of 'midrange smartphones 3rd World War' we just have to see the war unfold till 2nd or 3rd quarter before leaving RN5 for another midrange phone.
The major con with waiting is resell value! If you sell your RN5 now, you will make more money than selling it in the next 3 months with tons of midrange flooding the market.
Anyways, that's not a problem for me, I have a trick of selling my smartphones costlier than I bought them but that trick requires patience.... ?
Major Pros
RN5 can match most midrange phones in real life usage.
If you hate notches RN5 is added bonus and I hate notches even the punch hole ?
With Pixel 3 GCAM working already you won't miss much on photo aspect.
Conclusion:
If you intend to sell your own RN5 and you love notches do it now!
If you so can't live with notch keep your RN5 and wait a little... Better things than Redmi Note 7 can be ahead...
If you want to move from midrange to flagship the answer is wait too!
USB type C is good but isn't a deal breaker for me, my OTG drive is still micro USB but an adapter can solve the problem
The phone itself looks gimmicky. But i will give it a try, hopefully a review will come out first.
Note 7 Pro is Snapdragon 675
For me not interesting, I have my Redmi Note 5 just for 2 and a half months now and I usually use a new phone for at least 2 years. And I'm totally satisfied with this phone.
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For me not interesting, I have my Redmi Note 5 just for 2 and a half months now and I usually use a new phone for at least 2 years. And I'm totally satisfied with this phone.
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Me too. But if its really a big jump I mean hardware, photos, etc... Why not? :laugh:
Because Note 6 compare to 5, not worth it at all.
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Me too. But if its really a big jump I mean hardware, photos, etc... Why not? :laugh:
Because Note 6 compare to 5, not worth it at all.
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Yeah maybe, but for me, be it a normal Notch or a waterdrop Notch, that is an downgrade for me, since I'm a total Notch Hater/avoider. And USB-Type C is not an must have for me either, since I not owned a single USB C Device ever.
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Yeah maybe, but for me, be it a normal Notch or a waterdrop Notch, that is an downgrade for me, since I'm a total Notch Hater/avoider. And USB-Type C is not an must have for me either, since I not owned a single USB C Device ever.
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I do not own either ^^'
Didn't check... 3.5 jack desapir?
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I do not own either ^^'
Didn't check... 3.5 jack desapir?
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This site says that the 3,5mm jack still exist, even though there is USB C.