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Ok so yesterday I've bought myself a "Sony Xperia Z3 D6603 23.0.1.A.5.77". Now I would like to root this device and probebly flash a custom ROM over it. So I started doing my research because I'm used flashing Samsung Galaxy S3 only.
So here's what happens:
1) To be able to root and/or flash your device, you must unlock your bootloader.
2) Unlocking your boatloader will cause the loss of your TA DATA / DRM keys. If you don't want to lose these permanently, please make backups first.
3) To backup your TA, it is required to root your device first.
And so we end up back on step 1 again. I hope any of you can understand my confusion and please point me into the right direction / threads to do this the correct way. Thanks in advance!:highfive:
Yes, that is the current situation.
Normally what you want is this
1) Root using a locked bootloader method
2) Backup TA
3) Unlock bootloader
4) Flash custom kernel/ROM
The problem we have is that there is NO way to root on a locked bootloader ATM for the Z3. So you have to unlock the bootloader without backing up the TA partition.
I have exactly the same situation... Ex user of a galaxy s3 and now using a Z3 Dual D6633...for now I'm waiting to see if something is possible...
jnannetti said:
I have exactly the same situation... Ex user of a galaxy s3 and now using a Z3 Dual D6633...for now I'm waiting to see if something is possible...
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It is not possible until there is root for a locked bootloader.
I am now unconvinced this will happen as Lollipop is 1-2 months away. It makes no sense to work on locked bootloader root for our current phones. (this is just my opinion, it may still happen)
Thanks for the info! Guess it's best to wait for better methods first. And ye, I agree. With Lollipop comming out anytime soon, it's best to wait for that.
Hello everyone! I didn't want to root my new MOTO G 2015 but I need more storage if I want to install more app's, I saw with root permissions we can transfer full sized app's to the sd, is it true? and how? I've seen already a guide how to root moto g 2015, but know I want to know how to transfer full sized app's to the SD and then i'll decide if I want to root or not.
Do you think I should root? It will be better If i want more storage?
Is it safe? The Lollipop will be automatically installed after the root? I have no need on install other Android OS.
Thank you!
Hey! I can see that you are new here, but rooting your phone isnt gonna delete anything of your data if you search on this forum for Link2sd than you will find a tuturial for how to do that. But if you dont understand any of the words "Brick" or "fastboot" you should do some research first.
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HelpMeruth said:
Hey! I can see that you are new here, but rooting your phone isnt gonna delete anything of your data if you search on this forum for Link2sd than you will find a tuturial for how to do that. But if you dont understand any of the words "Brick" or "fastboot" you should do some research first.
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Hello HelpMeruth! And thank you for replying my question!
Here's what I already searched this is , i've got alot of information already but the information I got says my phone will be formatted I think. Brick I remember that word a long time ago when the PSP Scene I know it's not android but I remember it, it's like having a non funcional phone, bricked.
Here's the guide I saw: (I can't post links, if you can search on the youtube : "Moto G 3rd Gen(2015) - How to Root - Unlock Bootloader & Custom Recovery") and tell me if that guide will not brick or format my moto g 3
Any chance of getting bricked? It will remove my SIM Service? I have the phone just for a week and the warranty it's 2 here's, If I root the warranty goes out, is it worth rooting?
Thanks for the reply sir and yes i'm really new in the android scene, just came from the iOS one, got mad at iOS
I can confirm that your phone will not be formatted
The word brick means that your phone wont start up.
Its a gamble for everyone to root, so when you are gonna do it try just booting Twrp. That is the safest way to test it.
But strart with unlocking your bootloader thats already a big step for rooting (unlocking bootloader will format your data!)
If you got any questions send me message!
Its your choise to root or not
HelpMeruth said:
I can confirm that your phone will not be formatted
The word brick means that your phone wont start up.
Its a gamble for everyone to root, so when you are gonna do it try just booting Twrp. That is the safest way to test it.
But strart with unlocking your bootloader thats already a big step for rooting (unlocking bootloader will format your data!)
If you got any questions send me message!
Its your choise to root or not
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You do NOT need to unlock bootloader in order to root.
You DO need to unlock your bootloader for TWRP, unless booted temporarily.
Sent from my MotoG3
christopherrrg said:
You do NOT need to unlock bootloader in order to root.
You DO need to unlock your bootloader for TWRP, unless booted temporarily.
Sent from my MotoG3
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What? you have to unlock the bootloader in order to boot/flash twrp.
and with twrp you can root, how do you root with locked bootloader?
HelpMeruth said:
What? you have to unlock the bootloader in order to boot/flash twrp.
and with twrp you can root, how do you root with locked bootloader?
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Root toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62922929
Sent from my MotoG3
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Root toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62922929
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You shouldnt be able to root with a locked bootloader, i quote: 'A locked bootloader locks write access to several partitions like the system partition. This is the reason why rooting is not able without unlocked bootloader.' found on this site https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-differences-between-Rooting-and-Unlocking-Bootloader
that tool just has a build in fastboot/adb and automate things for you.
(sorry for my bad english)
HelpMeruth said:
You shouldnt be able to root with a locked bootloader, i quote: 'A locked bootloader locks write access to several partitions like the system partition. This is the reason why rooting is not able without unlocked bootloader.' found on this site https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-differences-between-Rooting-and-Unlocking-Bootloader
that tool just has a build in fastboot/adb and automate things for you.
(sorry for my bad english)
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Yeah after doing some research motorola devices seem to have that in place. I was speaking generally from a vanilla aosp aspect. Good find.
Sent from my MotoG3
Btw, If I install CyanogenMod it will reset my moto g firmware? Or install another firmware version? Thanks
M05K said:
Btw, If I install CyanogenMod it will reset my moto g firmware? Or install another firmware version? Thanks
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Installing cyanogenmod will still keep you on 5.1.1 your device will just be modified (custom tweaks etc..) so if you have to unlock your bootloader it will void any warranties you have. If you don't have one or don't care just make sure to read carefully as you sound relatively new to CM and you don't want to brick your device.
Sent from my MotoG3
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Installing cyanogenmod will still keep you on 5.1.1 your device will just be modified (custom tweaks etc..) so if you have to unlock your bootloader it will void any warranties you have. If you don't have one or don't care just make sure to read carefully as you sound relatively new to CM and you don't want to brick your device.
Sent from my MotoG3
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Yes it will be modified to cyanogenmod firmware right? So the firmware updates from MOTO G 3 I had installed will go resetted to the cyanogenmod firmware right?
M05K said:
Yes it will be modified to cyanogenmod firmware right? So the firmware updates from MOTO G 3 I had installed will go resetted to the cyanogenmod firmware right?
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Correct.
Cm12.1 is just 5.1.1 that's why I said it would.
You may see custom aosp 6.0 ROMs before any real factory builds.
Sent from my MotoG3
Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
sensei_sai said:
Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
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Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
Sonic Dash said:
Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
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Thanks for your reply.
Too bad for the TA partition.
So we have two possibilities. Take the risk of loose some features forever, but benefit of the root or wait till someone make some magic to use an exploit to obtain root without unlocking the bootloader.
Risk and go... Or wait and safe... Dilemma...
Sent from my Xperia XZ
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
Venom71 said:
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
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Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
I'm about to....
sensei_sai said:
Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
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OK, so did the bootloader unlock erase your data? Did you use the sony way or Flashtool?
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
nathan30 said:
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
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Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, it's not possible
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, but it worth it!! Save all your datas and go for it!
His guys just got the xzp and wow what a phone my only concern is root I have a locked bootloader and it's not unlockable but to be fair I've never unlocked a Xperia bootloader due to loosing drm keys etc
So my question is will we be able to get root on locked bootloaders like we did with past Xperia phones or are we stuck unless we unlock which in my case would mead no root ever :crying:
Thanks
Probably not would be my guess. You still need to unlock bootloader on previous models such as XZ/XZS.
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Probably not would be my guess. You still need to unlock bootloader on previous models such as XZ/XZS.
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Darn I love this device too but to never be able to have root might be a deal breaker
In service menu it says unlock bootloader allowed no but in developer options it give me the option to unlock the bootloader does this mean it's possible for me to unlock the bootloader
brockyneo said:
In service menu it says unlock bootloader allowed no but in developer options it give me the option to unlock the bootloader does this mean it's possible for me to unlock the bootloader
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That setting is there regardless. If it says no its not possible.
FartyParty said:
That setting is there regardless. If it says no its not possible.
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Ah OK no root for me then ever think it might have to be the oneplus 5 then I love this phone too
Wait for an Android vulnerability or someone find a way to backup the TA partition
ninjy said:
Wait for an Android vulnerability or someone find a way to backup the TA partition
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But I cannot unlock the bootloader I was hoping for a root without unlocking the bootloader like the z3 which was my last Xperia device
One question if I stay with the xzp cam I at least flash the latest stock UK unbranded room with a locked bootloader so I can get rid of my carrier stuff thanks
brockyneo said:
But I cannot unlock the bootloader I was hoping for a root without unlocking the bootloader like the z3 which was my last Xperia device
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It's what i'm saying
brockyneo said:
One question if I stay with the xzp cam I at least flash the latest stock UK unbranded room with a locked bootloader so I can get rid of my carrier stuff thanks
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yes
ninjy said:
It's what i'm saying
yes
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So what your saying is they maybe a work around getting root ect on locked bootloaders?
Thanks again
Like always, if a security breach is found on Android that allow getting root access, it will be possible to backup the DRM partition, then after if you like, unlocking the bootloader and then restore your DRM partition.
At least, it finished like this for the Z5, but you had to downgrade to Lollipop to get root access.
AFAIK, there is no known way to get root on Nougat today.
ninjy said:
Like always, if a security breach is found on Android that allow getting root access, it will be possible to backup the DRM partition, then after if you like, unlocking the bootloader and then restore your DRM partition.
At least, it finished like this for the Z5, but you had to downgrade to Lollipop to get root access.
AFAIK, there is no known way to get root on Nougat today.
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So there is the Dirty Cow exploit that seems pretty pervasive and promising.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot, I didn't realize the dates on dirty cow.
Question still stands though, do we know if there is anyone on the XZ Premium working on it?
topherhead said:
So there is the Dirty Cow exploit that seems pretty pervasive and promising.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/dirty-cow-t3484879
EDIT: Nevermind I'm an idiot, I didn't realize the dates on dirty cow.
Question still stands though, do we know if there is anyone on the XZ Premium working on it?
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I don't think so, there will be more involved ppl when XZ1 will be released, since it's the same specs
hoping for this with the XZs updated to Oreo...
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hoping for this with the XZs updated to Oreo...
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It's not possible anymore. You really need to unlock the bootloader in order to root. Something about patching the kernel.
Hi. Hope some Sony Xperia guru can help me with this.
I recently went on vacation and left my Xperia XA F3111 at home. Some a***hole had access to it for over 2 weeks and installed some malware on it. When I found out I factory reset the phone, but I really want to restore the stock ROM too in case he has flashed the phone with a malware-infested ROM which will survive a reset.
My problem is, the phone settings say "Bootloader unlock allowed = No". The guide here on XDA Developers say that this setting means he could not root the phone. My first question is, would this setting have also prevented him from installing a custom ROM?
If that would not have stopped him, are there any step-by-step instructions as to how I can reinstall a clean stock Sony ROM with that bootloader config setting in place?
Thx. D.
Hi, factory reset of the phone was the best choice. You don't need to worry about the integrity of the system as long as your bootloader stay locked so you don't need to flash it again.
For the malwares it's probably coming from crappy apps, for sample: https://www.google.com/amp/s/bgr.com/2018/11/25/google-play-store-apps-removed-malware-found/amp/
@rrvuhpg
Many thanks for your answer. The phone says the bootloader cannot be unlocked, but does this mean he could not have unlocked it, flashed a virus infected ROM and then re-locked it?
I mean, does that config setting mean that nobody can ever unlock the bootloader and change the ROM?
dmeddings said:
@rrvuhpg
Many thanks for your answer. The phone says the bootloader cannot be unlocked, but does this mean he could not have unlocked it, flashed a virus infected ROM and then re-locked it?
I mean, does that config setting mean that nobody can ever unlock the bootloader and change the ROM?
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Yes exactly, almost nobody can corrupt the system (for now). If one day you see a TA dumper for locked bootloader on Nougat or a root exploit it will mean that your phone can be corrupted.