Ok so yesterday I've bought myself a "Sony Xperia Z3 D6603 23.0.1.A.5.77". Now I would like to root this device and probebly flash a custom ROM over it. So I started doing my research because I'm used flashing Samsung Galaxy S3 only.
So here's what happens:
1) To be able to root and/or flash your device, you must unlock your bootloader.
2) Unlocking your boatloader will cause the loss of your TA DATA / DRM keys. If you don't want to lose these permanently, please make backups first.
3) To backup your TA, it is required to root your device first.
And so we end up back on step 1 again. I hope any of you can understand my confusion and please point me into the right direction / threads to do this the correct way. Thanks in advance!:highfive:
Yes, that is the current situation.
Normally what you want is this
1) Root using a locked bootloader method
2) Backup TA
3) Unlock bootloader
4) Flash custom kernel/ROM
The problem we have is that there is NO way to root on a locked bootloader ATM for the Z3. So you have to unlock the bootloader without backing up the TA partition.
I have exactly the same situation... Ex user of a galaxy s3 and now using a Z3 Dual D6633...for now I'm waiting to see if something is possible...
jnannetti said:
I have exactly the same situation... Ex user of a galaxy s3 and now using a Z3 Dual D6633...for now I'm waiting to see if something is possible...
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It is not possible until there is root for a locked bootloader.
I am now unconvinced this will happen as Lollipop is 1-2 months away. It makes no sense to work on locked bootloader root for our current phones. (this is just my opinion, it may still happen)
Thanks for the info! Guess it's best to wait for better methods first. And ye, I agree. With Lollipop comming out anytime soon, it's best to wait for that.
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Evening all,
Just placed an order for the Z5 Compact after my Z has started playing up after 3 years of use,
Basically I had mine rooted a long time ago, and I havnt really touched it since or done any rooting/customization in ages and im drawing a blank..
Basically want to root the Z5 and downgrade to the 4.42 firmware as I have on my Z, as I dislike the 5.51 software the menu options etc looks very tacky for stock Sony layout, and it looks like 6 marshmallow is the same.
Is this feasible or reccomended?
Is there a step by step guide I can follow as I am seriously ****e with computers and all this stuff, I also wanted to learn about and if there are guides on how I can customise the menu etc If I can keep 5.51 or even upgrade to 6.0 and root the device and install a custom theme and change the menu layout etc?
Is this possible at all, I know people have custom software but I havnt a clue on how to go about rooting it let alone customising it...
Any help much appreciated!
There is no 4.4.2 firmware available for z5 series...
Daniel_GB said:
There is no 4.4.2 firmware available for z5 series...
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lol cool well that answers that, can the menu/ settings etc be customized and changed,
kam90 said:
lol cool well that answers that, can the menu/ settings etc be customized and changed,
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I don't think you can customize settings menu in stock roms...
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I don't think you can customize settings menu in stock roms...
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Im planning on rooting from 5.51 found a decent guide with use of command prompt so should be easy I hope! Is there an app/program downloadable after root which will allow me to apply custom themes/ menu layouts.
I can only remember Super SU, and theres an aptoide one I had iirc
hey. no offense but i'd suggest you read and learn a bit more about rooting newer xperia devices before you do any mistake.
its for sure no easy thing if you arent much into this stuff. just to mention one thing: at this moment there is no way to root the z5
with locked bootloader. unlocking your bootloader means, that you most probably lose your warranty and the drm keys. those keys
can be simulated by a workaround, but infact they are gone forever without any chance to restore them.
in the end, rooting the z5 now is a process of unlocking bootloader (via flashtool or adb), flash kernel via adb, flash twrp recovery via adb
and finally install supersu via twrp flash.
these should be enough keywords to google for, and/or getting knowledge here in xda forums. once again, i just can advice
you read all those guides twice....
VorlonKosh said:
hey. no offense but i'd suggest you read and learn a bit more about rooting newer xperia devices before you do any mistake.
its for sure no easy thing if you arent much into this stuff. just to mention one thing: at this moment there is no way to root the z5
with locked bootloader. unlocking your bootloader means, that you most probably lose your warranty and the drm keys. those keys
can be simulated by a workaround, but infact they are gone forever without any chance to restore them.
in the end, rooting the z5 now is a process of unlocking bootloader (via flashtool or adb), flash kernel via adb, flash twrp recovery via adb
and finally install supersu via twrp flash.
these should be enough keywords to google for, and/or getting knowledge here in xda forums. once again, i just can advice
you read all those guides twice....
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DRM keys arent really required though are they? are they not restorable/ way to back them up prior, ive googled Z5 compact root and ive got loads of links on search results though
Voiding warranty of new device and god knows what will be with restored fake DRM keys with further updates, and no, there is NO rooting Z5 series with having Bootloader locked for now, i doubt there will ever be a method but hope im wrong. You might want to reconsider Z5 series, replace your Z with Z3 that is easily rootable even with locked BL and is on Marshmallow list.
kam90 said:
DRM keys arent really required though are they? are they not restorable/ way to back them up prior, ive googled Z5 compact root and ive got loads of links on search results though
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well, the drm keys are required for e.g. x-reality, camera postprocessing, ps controller support and much more. at the moment the drm restore patch works, but who knows, google or sony could counterpatch this aswell. you can only backup them with root. to get root you need to unlock your bootloader first. unlock bootloader = drm key lost forever. you cant lock your bootloader without original drm keys, and with unlocked bootloader you dont have ota updates and pc companion wont work anymore. means, you always have to update manually with
flashtool.
Really?! Cause with my Z I could link up with pc companion and do a factory reset which wiped out the root and everything on it when it froze up..
What about the main thread on this forum... is there any other reading or threads/guides in relation to this
Hi. I have been thinking about unlocking boot loader and rooting my z3 for the purposes of installation of stock android ROM, I have seen about the loss of DRm when unlocking the bootloader.
I wanted to ask people if it is worth it losing some functionality over a custom rom
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You can root without unlocking the bootloader. Or backup the TA partition which holds DRM so if you decide you want to lock again you can just do it.
At least locked bootloader root is worth it. Awesome Stock Custom ROMs on here
Dobsgw said:
You can root without unlocking the bootloader. Or backup the TA partition which holds DRM so if you decide you want to lock again you can just do it.
At least locked bootloader root is worth it. Awesome Stock Custom ROMs on here
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Thanks for the reply, think i would like to keep bootloader locked as don't want any hassle in the future as will be selling my phone come the new year. Can you suggest a root method for the d6603 on MM
stewart30 said:
Thanks for the reply, think i would like to keep bootloader locked as don't want any hassle in the future as will be selling my phone come the new year. Can you suggest a root method for the d6603 on MM
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forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/recovery-root-mm-575-291-lb-t3435214
Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
sensei_sai said:
Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
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Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
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Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
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Thanks for your reply.
Too bad for the TA partition.
So we have two possibilities. Take the risk of loose some features forever, but benefit of the root or wait till someone make some magic to use an exploit to obtain root without unlocking the bootloader.
Risk and go... Or wait and safe... Dilemma...
Sent from my Xperia XZ
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
Venom71 said:
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
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Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
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sensei_sai said:
Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
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OK, so did the bootloader unlock erase your data? Did you use the sony way or Flashtool?
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
nathan30 said:
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
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Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, it's not possible
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, but it worth it!! Save all your datas and go for it!
Hi guys,
It might sound dumb but I was wondering if it was possible to relock the bootloader while keeping root.
In fact, I did not want to modify my Honor 8 that much too soon but I enjoy playing some games on my phone using a pad, I did not want to spend alot so I just went with a pad I already have, the DualShock 4. It works well except the button mapping in native Android games, that's why I have to root to use Sixaxis app to solve the issue.
So I may have to root my device soon but I don't plan any other modification to the system atm and I particularly hate the warning message when you boot (gosh, I hated it on my Moto G but it was easy to replace).
That leads me to the thread title: Is it possible to root and then get rid of the unlocking message (relock the bootloader or anything else would be okayish)?
I just want to get root access on the phone for my gamepad issue and eventually setup some typical things such as a real adblocking solution (DNS66 is not bad but hosts file is still the way to go imo) and maybe Xposed.
Is there a way to reduce the modification on the phone? (Thus the idea of relocking it, I was thinking that maybe, once relocked it won't show the message. But maybe relocking just wipe the phone again? (as unlocking it does))
Thank you guys
thats possible to relock bootloader .but if u used flash custom recovery and SuperSu.zip to root your phone , after rooted device , please reflash stock recovery vi fastboot and relock your bootloader
I don't think it's possible to relock the bootloader and keep your device rooted.
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I don't think it's possible to relock the bootloader and keep your device rooted.
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It was possible with the Nexus 5 and a few other phones to root it and then relock it. Obviously the only way to know if that's the case on this phone is to try it. But you just have to make sure that the stock recovery is there instead of twrp before relocking.
One brave soul needs to try it though. [emoji4]
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Well, I'll wait until someone who has a rooted device give it a try.
That screen would really annoy me... I always thought it was dumb to put that kind of screen... Damn, no need to remind us that it is unlocked if WE DID IT OURSELVES.
Hello everyone so despite trying in the past and the app saying unable to root. I decided to check my Z5 E6653 this morning and to my surprise i got the message that my device can be rooted. Has anyone got this on Nougat 7.1.1 ? Did it work in the end or not? Im sceptical and not sure if i should give it a try. My device is stock with an unlockable bootloader that is still locked currently.
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Thanks,i will and take a look.
Even if you get temporary root with some exploit, as soon as you modify the system partition Or boot partition, your device will bootloop forever because the bootloader knows that the system has been tampered.
The only possible thing would be crack the bootloader, which is (almost) impossible.
Simply backup your TA partition with Iovyroot,then unlock the bootloader and install the proper kernel that emulates TA drm protection and lets you root the Rom.
If needed you can restore TA partition and send phone to repair service like it was never unlocked.