Android Oreo (Go Edition) + Motorola Droid 4 XT894 = ? - General Questions and Answers

Greetings, fellow devs and fans. Hope that you are doing fine. I do hope that this would be the right place to ask anything, including what I have in mind right now.
I may have been ditching Android as my daily driver for Windows 10 Mobile for like two years now, but that didn't stop me from keeping tabs with the latest news about Google's mobile OS, and the latest news about the Go Edition of Android 8.0 Oreo do catch my attention. I would definitely love to see how Android Oreo Go stacks up against my current favourite mobile OS from Microsoft.
But that's not what I wanna talk about. I actually wanna talk about Motorola Droid 4 XT894 aka "maserati". I've been yearning to own what is undoubtedly the last ever Android - indeed, the last EVER smartphone with horizontal QWERTY keyboard. But that got me thinking: Since Android Oreo Go only needs 1GB of RAM and "maserati" is indeed only have 1GB of RAM, I wonder if there is(are) a way(s) of porting that particular Android into that Motorola?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not asking for tutorials or suggestions about steps on doing it, because I don't even know if someone else is thinking similar line as me. But who knows... in the future... maybe it is possible after all?
That's all for me. Would love to hear your thoughts.

fat8893 said:
Since Android Oreo Go only needs 1GB of RAM and "maserati" is indeed only have 1GB of RAM, I wonder if there is(are) a way(s) of porting that particular Android into that Motorola?
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I would even be happy if the "normal" OREO 8.1 (Lineage 15.1) was released some day.
But here are some sad but unconfirmed news: https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/rom-cm14-1-nougat-t3499338/page22#post76220740
Maybe you could ask the developer "stargo" https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3457922 directly if he will publish an Oreo (Go) version for the XT894 maserati

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Android N

Hey did anyone install android N preview 1? I haven't installed it cause it only released a preview 1, Maybe i'll installed it when preview 5 is released.
I'll link a source down below if anyone is wanting to install it
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/224457-how-to-install-the-android-n-developer-preview-on-your-device-right-now
This is only for nexus devices
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as its name suggests, it is only for developer, for testing their apps etc. if you're not a developer, it is better to wait for a final release. unless you like living with bugs, crashes and other possible instability issues.
How likely will the MXP get an official N release from Motorola?
Holoryn said:
How likely will the MXP get an official N release from Motorola?
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I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
I have been wondering about this too but its too early. It is a preview of N and the android development platform for android N or whatever it will be called called is not yet released - after google I/O in may .....may be . In six months or more (alot more ) there something like cm 14 or other rom. Be patient
HerySean said:
I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
squid2 said:
I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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Yay!! :highfive:
The host of this thread wanted to get someone try it and let him know what it is possible or not/
right?
I hope it's 64bit
bablu048 said:
I hope it's 64bit
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Nope, it will stay 32 bit. There will be no performance difference either way. I also will support the X Play until it can't anymore
GtrCraft said:
Nope, it will stay 32 bit. There will be no performance difference either way. I also will support the X Play until it can't anymore
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yeah, i know 32-64 bit doesn't change the performance much. 64 bit just supports more RAM and has more address lines.
i hope to do the same, but building from scratch is very confusing when you are a beginner. still trying though.
bablu048 said:
yeah, i know 32-64 bit doesn't change the performance much. 64 bit just supports more RAM and has more address lines.
i hope to do the same, but building from scratch is very confusing when you are a beginner. still trying though.
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PM if you need help. Would like to help
Not so quick question:
When Google releases a AOSP -source code ect - for android N or any other version CM team make a basic CM version - a core of the OS so to speak - so that people who maintain a given device like MXP can adapt it to work. And that takes time....I over simplified the whole process - which surely includes lots of coding and magic - but all in all is this how it it's made ?
Chaotick said:
Not so quick question:
When Google releases a AOSP -source code ect - for android N or any other version CM team make a basic CM version - a core of the OS so to speak - so that people who maintain a given device like MXP can adapt it to work. And that takes time....I over simplified the whole process - which surely includes lots of coding and magic - but all in all is this how it it's made ?
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We need a final N and caf being updated. Then when a rom updates to that we can try building it for Lux (Code name Moto X Play) and fixing everything. Then Motorola will update it so we can use the blobs and kernel to make it even more stable.
You can look on motorola upgrade support page, there is info fo several models and android versions. We cant be sure if N will come to MXP, but Im sure, Motorola has great support and its normal, that phones gets two major upgrades. So MXP started on L, moved to M and N is very likely.
squid2 said:
I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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well i have to keep my moto x play as long as I can, maybe for 3-4 more years because I just bought it :/ and I really hope lenovo release android N for MXP.
HerySean said:
I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
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its obviusly mxp will get android n, its a 2015 smartphone ... general mobile (android one) its on beta program and only have a 410; as much as android Lollipop/Marshmallow/ N are very optimized, work flawless in practically "any device" with 1gb ram

Blackberry Z30 Bootloader?

Hi
I have a Blackberry Z30 lying in my drawer, and I have been thinking of trying to make an Android build for it. Yes, I realise this would be a massive undertaking, but considering the parts in it are fairly standard, drivers shouldn't be an issue. The larger issue is the bootloader. My particular Z30 is a little special, in that it is a pre production device. However, I have no idea how to even check if it has a locked bootloader. Has anyone seriously tried to look at any BB10 devices, and how one might go about loading an Android build onto one? I'm looking at this as a long term side project for learning and to have fun.
very nice try
Xaiux said:
Hi
I have a Blackberry Z30 lying in my drawer...
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I have the same BlackBerry Z30 device, waiting for 10.3.3 to see what's changed in the OS. Do you think it's possible to build for it an updated Android runtime based on Marshmallow or Nougat with Google services that works alongside BB10 OS instead of old Android 4.3 runtime that our devices have now?
VBBoston said:
I have the same BlackBerry Z30 device, waiting for 10.3.3 to see what's changed in the OS. Do you think it's possible to build for it an updated Android runtime based on Marshmallow or Nougat with Google services that works alongside BB10 OS instead of old Android 4.3 runtime that our devices have now?
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To be perfectly honest, I would think that's much harder than building Android for it.
I think that would be hard too. you might take a look at Blackberry Link app and find how it works with this Qualcom device, I have no idea how to, but someone might know, that aplication loads the firmware when you get a BB bricked. But in my personal opinion its a great device, the BB10 OS is perfect for my needs, so I think tha would be better finding solutions for Google services on the BB10. a lot of them can be patched but there are a lot of bugs on them. In my opinion that will be a good start.

Phoenix OS updated to Android Nougat, Linux kernel 4.4

Guys, since remix OS is likely dead here is a good option. Phoenix OS!
They have updated to Android Nougat which is the very first android version to provide awesome multiwindow API in the AOSP, so Android 7 supports multiwindow better than before. I mean instead of emulating the multiwindow function in Remix and Phoenix OSs before, Android nougat natively supports it in the new Phoenix OS version.
It's still in alpha but works fine for me. Here's the link: http://www.phoenixos.com/en/download_x86
wrong thread remix is not dead gtfo
BaconSeeds said:
wrong thread remix is not dead gtfo
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when was the last update?
4 month ago... says github
But its a valid point..
I think resources are now focused on remix io..
but I hope this x86 project gets new wind...when the IO devices finally comes out
Remix isn't dead on the parts where they make money but they have lost THERE KEY EMPLOYEE and things have ... well.. lets just say they have fallen apart and Remix on the x86 side looks GRIM!! Looks pretty much dead but then again they could surprise us with another release.
No update since November, no sight of any Jide employee on XDA in months (not even so much as a "Hey, we haven't forgotten about you."), and Chih-Wei Huang left Jide after only 8 months and is even thinking about quitting the entire project (WTF was so bad to make him have to consider this?!). It's pretty safe to say it's dead. It can still be revived, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Now, if we can only get the Phoenix OS devs to listen to the community more, we might still have hope.
What is awesome about Phoenix OS is the regular updates with no more than month wait time and that they DO LISTEN to their users. I loved Remix OS more but Phoenix OS is just fine. And the Android nougat gives phoenix a way big advantage over remix os.
Chih-Wei Huang left. So yea Remix OS IO device is the last one.
Mirroring with Pheonix
Hi all,
Right now i am using remix os in my acer e 573g laptop. works fine. but since there s no update from november i wish to go with phoenix. And i just wanted to know that, whether phoenix os supports VGA out. I do have a big wide screen monitor attached to my laptop using VGA port. Remix works fine in this case. shall i expect the same from the pheonix also?
thanks in advance
I tried their latest Alpha version v2.0.1.78 64-bit. Although it has solved a lot of bugs, it has introduced the Remix's freezing bug. Whenever a game is opened, system freezes within a minute. My laptop is Asus R558UQ with i5 7th gen, HD 620 and Nvidia 940mx card. The bug has something to do with the dual cards.
Can't guarantee but higher kernel version means better support to devices try and give feedback
just tried but there is no google play
tvcat-xda said:
just tried but there is no google play
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Will be coming soon
Google Play Store will be added later. They trying to finishing up adding their apps and stuff first. You still can install some apps that doesn't require Google account to run.
base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
tvcat-xda said:
base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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Where at on that forums? I didn't see any post on this.
You might like to move the discussion to https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/phoenix-os
Use EXTMOD=i915 in grub and try. It will use the intel hd card and 'ignore' the nvidia one. The intel VGA has way better drivers and is strong enough to handle all games at high FPS. I play Asphalt 8 using Skylake intel 530 on Remix OS and is ****in smooth
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base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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Link or it didn't happen.
Update: After some short research, I was able to find this on the OpenThOs github -- https://github.com/openthos/system-analysis/issues/88
And he's listed at the very top of the developer list here. -- https://github.com/openthos/openthos/wiki/developer-list
Looks like we still have a chance people!! lol
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Can't guarantee but higher kernel version means better support to devices try and give feedback
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Great project but on my huawei Matbook HZ-W09 wifi always disconnects! Someone knows why?

Development of a ROM Android pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3

Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
i would love if someone make a custom rom for this device, i just got one as secondary device for work and i think is really good for the price(Screen is great, battery life is also great, looks ok) but my main problem are the GO apps (Gmail Go, YouTube Go, Maps Go, etc...) that get crash all the time and if a change to another app or if the device locks the apps always reset and is super annoying specially with the Maps app, before this i was using another Huawei with also 1gb of RAM and older android version and all those apps where running smoothly so i think is fault of the Go version of android oreo
I bought this phone a couple of weeks ago mostly for the price. The phone would be great, but the apps just close themselves, any app that is a little more demanding would close instantly. I contacted huawei, but they just told me to do a bunch of useless solutions to optimize the phone that obviously didn't work and they ignored me when i told them that the problem was the "Go" version of the Android Oreo. Anyway it would be awesome if someone would make a pie ROM for the huawei Y5 2018 or Dra-lx3, or another version that's not "Go". Is the only solution i think for this phone since an update solving the problem from huawei is unlikely to arrive any time soon.
Hi...
I experienced the same problem of @Jyroux and @NateXIII
... the apps just close themselves, any app that is a little more demanding would close instantly...
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even, the apps close themselves suddenly!
I wish some improvement, looking for a naked versione of Android (Oreo or Pie...it doesn't really matter).
Have you any info?
Thanks a lot & CIAO!
Hi friends, I have the same problem.
Has someone managed to root the device?
Could you tell me how I do it please?
Raul1720 said:
Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
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If a developer that had the ability to build a ROM owned one of these devices, they would already have built a ROM for it. Since there are no ROMs available, one can assume that no such developers own this device.
Building ROMs requires having one of the devices on hand to test what is built. If you want a developer here to build a ROM this device, you'll have to buy another device like this and donate it to the developer, otherwise, you can try learning to build the ROM yourself or you can give up on the whole idea.
You are much more likely to get a ROM for this device by learning to build it yourself, that will probably happen sooner than finding someone to do it for you. No one is going to take the time to build a ROM for a device they do not own or do not use, especially for free.
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Raul1720 said:
Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
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You can flash a GSI, which is kind of a generic rom, if you have bootloader unlocked.

Since we've had Linux boot on the Surface RT, will Android at some point?

Yeah most stuff doesn't work on Linux at the moment but maybe?
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
pedrofssf94 said:
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
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well dang
FoxyDrew said:
Who told you android ports are coming to this tablet? lol glad your optimistic though
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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pguarache said:
Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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You do know no one can see that because you would need to be in the discord server that we dont have an invite to lol
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
Nicknackpaddywack101 said:
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Yes, I understand your point. But the fact is that it had Android to start with, with the surface RT you have to use loopholes and bugs to get Linux working in a inefficient way and even the currently working(sort of ) Raspbian based Linux system has a bunch of bugs and missing drivers etc. Power control lacks behind Windows RT (mentiond here:https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/porting-chromium-to-windows-rt.2095686/post-87719273. The sad fact that this device is already 10years old means that it is unlikely people would pay attention to it and use it to develop Android, and even with Android installed the experience would be very limited due to the ram. support would be almost non-existent similar to what happened to the windows phones that got unofficial CM versions. Developers are already moving away from ARM32 to newer ARM64 and a few years later most apps would have a minimum api equivalent to android 6.
There is still a silver lining though. RT devices are dirt cheap since they are almost or practically useless now and Android still has excellent backward compatibility. Anyone who really has interest and the time could pick up the pieces of the Linux project and move on with doing it, but it still would not be easy.
Maybe a crowdfunding project could give devs some incentive?
But for now you could try to run a vm in linux or simply run their linux equivalents. Chromium, firefox, WPS office etc. Raspbian is compatible wih the snap store too, so you could use it just like ubuntu.
I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea, and I really look forward to this project taking off. However, there ultimately is a reason why Windows RT and their RT devices failed to take off.
working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
jethro tarw said:
working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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Wow! Nice work! Would be interested to know the team behind this marvelous project. (since you mentioned 'we')
Also probably should embed the boot screen with your team's name...

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