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I've been under the impression that the Relay wasn't about to get Nougat support, because it's graphics chip was too old to do Vulkan. However these two sites indicate that Relay support is in the works. http://www.gizmoadvices.com/list-devices-supported-official-lineage-os/ http://lineageosdownload.com/devices-supported-by-lineage-os/
I'd not be prone to trust that, since they seem to essentially be the same list. (echo-chamber?) However this site http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-lineage-os/ with download links shows some supported Samsung devices of similar vintage to the Relay, perhaps even older.
I plan to look into this more, but in the meantime, does anyone else know anything?
I also plan to upload my Dec 3 and Dec 29 images from last year to my google drive, and will make those known here, once I have. They're not fully tested - I did a bit more explicit testing of the Dec 3 image, but I'm currently running the Dec 29 image.
Edit - some content:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBceVGlWV05fUlVObUU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBceRDd5elpZbFZETVk
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBcecmxBR2xzV2N2cTQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBceVWJQSEUwaXpiNFk
(I fear I've lost track of which is which, but two are zips and two are checksums. Two are Dec 4 and two are Dec 29.)

Nice one! i've been running my relay on the stock OS for years. It's running slow as a dog. I really need to learn how to flash it with a nice new ROM.

That would be awesome if the Relay would get a second life.... i'm sooo close to drop it and buy the Nokia 6... hope HMD is living up to some customers expectations and is building a new communicator... love my old buddy E7.
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by the way, the Relay is in basic the S III. But I'm quite astonished that they support the Relay ()

SinnedNima said:
That would be awesome if the Relay would get a second life.... i'm sooo close to drop it and buy the Nokia 6... hope HMD is living up to some customers expectations and is building a new communicator... love my old buddy E7.
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by the way, the Relay is in basic the S III. But I'm quite astonished that they support the Relay ()
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By "E7" you mean the Nokia E7, right? Oh, I have often fantasized about a device in an E7 chassis but with new internals and running Android... except for the weight, that was my favourite form factor ever, keyboard or not
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BTW since my Relay is definitely not my daily driver, more than happy to give these builds a whirl...

so will there bea linage os for the relay 4g. if so I would be interested for afriend of mine . he loves the relay and so he is wondering if there will be development for linage for the relay 4g. please let me know.

I'm updating here the last CM recovery in case someone needs it.

mrk2815 said:
so will there bea linage os for the relay 4g. if so I would be interested for afriend of mine . he loves the relay and so he is wondering if there will be development for linage for the relay 4g. please let me know.
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The leaks of the soon to be supported devices have the Relay on it. I can't believe it yet but why not? The Relay is the last Android QWERTY with decent hardware. As i stated before in another thread the S III is nearly identical to the Relay and the SoC is/was quite popular and built in many devices. The chances are high (to good to be true)

SinnedNima said:
The leaks of the soon to be supported devices have the Relay on it. I can't believe it yet but why not? The Relay is the last Android QWERTY with decent hardware. As i stated before in another thread the S III is nearly identical to the Relay and the SoC is/was quite popular and built in many devices. The chances are high (to good to be true)
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I've done a bit of looking since, and see that Lineage OS is advertising both Marshmallow and Nougat support. I suspect that means that the Relay is going to get Marshmallow, not Nougat. My impression is that Nougat required Vulkan graphics, and the Relay's graphics chip wasn't capable of that. Still, Marshmallow will be newer and presumably more secure than KitKat.

phred14 said:
I've done a bit of looking since, and see that Lineage OS is advertising both Marshmallow and Nougat support. I suspect that means that the Relay is going to get Marshmallow, not Nougat. My impression is that Nougat required Vulkan graphics, and the Relay's graphics chip wasn't capable of that. Still, Marshmallow will be newer and presumably more secure than KitKat.
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Even Marshmallow would be a welcome advance for the Relay venerable Relay.

I love my Relay so much that I want it keep it forever.
I bought a couple of extras, so I have some hardware for testing and I am eager to assist anyone who wishes to continue development for the Relay.
Please contact me if I can assist you and/or please direct me to someone whom I can assist.
thanks in advance,
- Soul Singin'

LineageOS released their list of officially supported devices and the Relay is not on it. I jumped onto the Lineage OS IRC channel to ask the devs what exactly they'd need to get the Relay officially supported. They said they need a working device tree + kernel. I emailed them the info they asked for and will let you guys know how it goes.
My Relay is my daily driver running CM11 and an more up to date rom would be amazing.

check out the development area here at xda, i'm sure there was a kernel over there. i do think that for someone like reventech from the validus project that task would be easy as a pie. don't they have the sources of cyanogenmod? the mirrors are down am i right? on that github should have been the source. i'm not able to build android yet. as an administrator my free time is quite limited

gerbilfat said:
LineageOS released their list of officially supported devices and the Relay is not on it. I jumped onto the Lineage OS IRC channel to ask the devs what exactly they'd need to get the Relay officially supported. They said they need a working device tree + kernel. I emailed them the info they asked for and will let you guys know how it goes.
My Relay is my daily driver running CM11 and an more up to date rom would be amazing.
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Would you be willing to send me the device tree, as well. Or perhaps since I have the sources sitting around, I presume there's a device tree there. I've read about the device tree on Phoronix, but have never really walked through one.
Also, since I've got a source tree, I've also got a kernel in there. However will Marshmallow use the same kernel as KitKat? Oh, google was my friend: https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/51651/which-android-runs-which-linux-kernel
Android Version |API Level |Linux Kernel in AOSP
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1.5 Cupcake |3 |2.6.27
1.6 Donut |4 |2.6.29
2.0/1 Eclair |5-7 |2.6.29
2.2.x Froyo |8 |2.6.32
2.3.x Gingerbread |9, 10 |2.6.35
3.x.x Honeycomb |11-13 |2.6.36
4.0.x Ice Cream San|14, 15 |3.0.1
4.1.x Jelly Bean |16 |3.0.31
4.2.x Jelly Bean |17 |3.4.0
4.3 Jelly Bean |18 |3.4.39
4.4 Kit Kat |19, 20 |3.10
5.x Lollipop |21, 22 |3.16.1
6.0 Marshmallow |23 |3.18.10
7.0 Nougat |24 |4.4.1
7.1 Nougat |25 |4.4.1 (To be updated)
So the problem is that we need a new kernel, and need to map the old config to the new. OK, I always save my kernel configs, and one of my home machines goes clear back to 3.7 and up to the present, except that while I have configs for 3.16 and 3.20, I'm missing everything in between. Another system has five different 3.18 kernel configs, but only goes back to 3.16.3. I know these configs are not usable for Android, but I'm hoping they can give me an indication of what changed between the relevant levels. Scratch that, one the first machine mentioned, I have a 3.18.8 kernel config laying around as well as 3.10.0, 3.10.9, and 3.10.10 configs. Sadly, there are 1570 lines of diff between the two. Haven't looked at any details yet.
This looks like a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem. I'm going to presume that I can't just stuff a 3.18.10 kernel into my CM11 build and expect it to work - though that's the way Linus would like it to be, and the two kernels aren't that far apart.
Pardon the rambling.
EDIT: I just checked my source tree, and I appear to have the kernel source there. Actually there seem to be two sources, "samsung/d2" and "samsung/t1". Neither appears to have been compiled, because I only see .c and .h files in there, nor is there a .config file. Luckily I just checked my Relay, and found "/proc/config.gz". Oh, and here's the other oddity: "uname -a" returns "3.4.104-cyanogenmod-g61tc527e", not the expected 3.10. I may have to grab a Validus image, if I can still find one.

phred14 said:
So the problem is that we need a new kernel, and need to map the old config to the new. OK, I always save my kernel configs,
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Attached is my: /cm_repo/kernel/samsung/d2/arch/arm/configs/cyanogen_apexq_defconfig for CM 11, which uses kernel 3.4.95 and android 4.4.4
Does this help? If so or if not, please tell me how I can help.
And thank you for your help!
- Soul Singin'

would to know how it goes as well, any updates?

from what i've been told they have no plans for it either
https://www.facebook.com/LineageAndroid/posts/1499401083412550?comment_id=1499658536720138

any new news on any development for this device. i know that the s3 has gotten its linage os 14.1 rom and how come the relay whihc is based off of the s3 cant get a 14.1 rom. just wondering.

I know everyone hates a 'me too'. I have been a T699 user for about as long as it's been introduced. I also use a Stratosphere II and a Galaxy S5, but my Relay is still my favorite. I hope the developers at LineageOS will still consider supporting this phone. Thanks in advance.

Even though it's not my main phone anymore, I love pulling out my Relay now and then. In fact I'm using it as a music & podcast player since the SD card reader in my main phone died. The only thing that stops me from using it more is that the battery drops like a stone when it's got cellular signal/data going, to the point that it almost unusable day-to-day as a connected device. But it's got great standby life so I'm pretty sure it's the OS, not the battery. I would love it if a new OS actually fixed the battery drain...

It would be a dream to geht lineage OS in the relay 4g. Any advance Herr???

Phoenix OS updated to Android Nougat, Linux kernel 4.4

Guys, since remix OS is likely dead here is a good option. Phoenix OS!
They have updated to Android Nougat which is the very first android version to provide awesome multiwindow API in the AOSP, so Android 7 supports multiwindow better than before. I mean instead of emulating the multiwindow function in Remix and Phoenix OSs before, Android nougat natively supports it in the new Phoenix OS version.
It's still in alpha but works fine for me. Here's the link: http://www.phoenixos.com/en/download_x86

wrong thread remix is not dead gtfo

BaconSeeds said:
wrong thread remix is not dead gtfo
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when was the last update?

4 month ago... says github
But its a valid point..
I think resources are now focused on remix io..
but I hope this x86 project gets new wind...when the IO devices finally comes out

Remix isn't dead on the parts where they make money but they have lost THERE KEY EMPLOYEE and things have ... well.. lets just say they have fallen apart and Remix on the x86 side looks GRIM!! Looks pretty much dead but then again they could surprise us with another release.

No update since November, no sight of any Jide employee on XDA in months (not even so much as a "Hey, we haven't forgotten about you."), and Chih-Wei Huang left Jide after only 8 months and is even thinking about quitting the entire project (WTF was so bad to make him have to consider this?!). It's pretty safe to say it's dead. It can still be revived, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Now, if we can only get the Phoenix OS devs to listen to the community more, we might still have hope.

What is awesome about Phoenix OS is the regular updates with no more than month wait time and that they DO LISTEN to their users. I loved Remix OS more but Phoenix OS is just fine. And the Android nougat gives phoenix a way big advantage over remix os.

Chih-Wei Huang left. So yea Remix OS IO device is the last one.

Mirroring with Pheonix
Hi all,
Right now i am using remix os in my acer e 573g laptop. works fine. but since there s no update from november i wish to go with phoenix. And i just wanted to know that, whether phoenix os supports VGA out. I do have a big wide screen monitor attached to my laptop using VGA port. Remix works fine in this case. shall i expect the same from the pheonix also?
thanks in advance

I tried their latest Alpha version v2.0.1.78 64-bit. Although it has solved a lot of bugs, it has introduced the Remix's freezing bug. Whenever a game is opened, system freezes within a minute. My laptop is Asus R558UQ with i5 7th gen, HD 620 and Nvidia 940mx card. The bug has something to do with the dual cards.

Can't guarantee but higher kernel version means better support to devices try and give feedback

just tried but there is no google play

tvcat-xda said:
just tried but there is no google play
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Will be coming soon

Google Play Store will be added later. They trying to finishing up adding their apps and stuff first. You still can install some apps that doesn't require Google account to run.

base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now

tvcat-xda said:
base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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Where at on that forums? I didn't see any post on this.

You might like to move the discussion to https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/phoenix-os

Use EXTMOD=i915 in grub and try. It will use the intel hd card and 'ignore' the nvidia one. The intel VGA has way better drivers and is strong enough to handle all games at high FPS. I play Asphalt 8 using Skylake intel 530 on Remix OS and is ****in smooth

tvcat-xda said:
base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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Link or it didn't happen.
Update: After some short research, I was able to find this on the OpenThOs github -- https://github.com/openthos/system-analysis/issues/88
And he's listed at the very top of the developer list here. -- https://github.com/openthos/openthos/wiki/developer-list
Looks like we still have a chance people!! lol

modaifallah said:
Can't guarantee but higher kernel version means better support to devices try and give feedback
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Great project but on my huawei Matbook HZ-W09 wifi always disconnects! Someone knows why?

Android Oreo (Go Edition) + Motorola Droid 4 XT894 = ?

Greetings, fellow devs and fans. Hope that you are doing fine. I do hope that this would be the right place to ask anything, including what I have in mind right now.
I may have been ditching Android as my daily driver for Windows 10 Mobile for like two years now, but that didn't stop me from keeping tabs with the latest news about Google's mobile OS, and the latest news about the Go Edition of Android 8.0 Oreo do catch my attention. I would definitely love to see how Android Oreo Go stacks up against my current favourite mobile OS from Microsoft.
But that's not what I wanna talk about. I actually wanna talk about Motorola Droid 4 XT894 aka "maserati". I've been yearning to own what is undoubtedly the last ever Android - indeed, the last EVER smartphone with horizontal QWERTY keyboard. But that got me thinking: Since Android Oreo Go only needs 1GB of RAM and "maserati" is indeed only have 1GB of RAM, I wonder if there is(are) a way(s) of porting that particular Android into that Motorola?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not asking for tutorials or suggestions about steps on doing it, because I don't even know if someone else is thinking similar line as me. But who knows... in the future... maybe it is possible after all?
That's all for me. Would love to hear your thoughts.

fat8893 said:
Since Android Oreo Go only needs 1GB of RAM and "maserati" is indeed only have 1GB of RAM, I wonder if there is(are) a way(s) of porting that particular Android into that Motorola?
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I would even be happy if the "normal" OREO 8.1 (Lineage 15.1) was released some day.
But here are some sad but unconfirmed news: https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/development/rom-cm14-1-nougat-t3499338/page22#post76220740
Maybe you could ask the developer "stargo" https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3457922 directly if he will publish an Oreo (Go) version for the XT894 maserati

Development of a ROM Android pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3

Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking

i would love if someone make a custom rom for this device, i just got one as secondary device for work and i think is really good for the price(Screen is great, battery life is also great, looks ok) but my main problem are the GO apps (Gmail Go, YouTube Go, Maps Go, etc...) that get crash all the time and if a change to another app or if the device locks the apps always reset and is super annoying specially with the Maps app, before this i was using another Huawei with also 1gb of RAM and older android version and all those apps where running smoothly so i think is fault of the Go version of android oreo

I bought this phone a couple of weeks ago mostly for the price. The phone would be great, but the apps just close themselves, any app that is a little more demanding would close instantly. I contacted huawei, but they just told me to do a bunch of useless solutions to optimize the phone that obviously didn't work and they ignored me when i told them that the problem was the "Go" version of the Android Oreo. Anyway it would be awesome if someone would make a pie ROM for the huawei Y5 2018 or Dra-lx3, or another version that's not "Go". Is the only solution i think for this phone since an update solving the problem from huawei is unlikely to arrive any time soon.

Hi...
I experienced the same problem of @Jyroux and @NateXIII
... the apps just close themselves, any app that is a little more demanding would close instantly...
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even, the apps close themselves suddenly!
I wish some improvement, looking for a naked versione of Android (Oreo or Pie...it doesn't really matter).
Have you any info?
Thanks a lot & CIAO!

Hi friends, I have the same problem.
Has someone managed to root the device?
Could you tell me how I do it please?

Raul1720 said:
Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
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If a developer that had the ability to build a ROM owned one of these devices, they would already have built a ROM for it. Since there are no ROMs available, one can assume that no such developers own this device.
Building ROMs requires having one of the devices on hand to test what is built. If you want a developer here to build a ROM this device, you'll have to buy another device like this and donate it to the developer, otherwise, you can try learning to build the ROM yourself or you can give up on the whole idea.
You are much more likely to get a ROM for this device by learning to build it yourself, that will probably happen sooner than finding someone to do it for you. No one is going to take the time to build a ROM for a device they do not own or do not use, especially for free.
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Raul1720 said:
Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
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You can flash a GSI, which is kind of a generic rom, if you have bootloader unlocked.

Since we've had Linux boot on the Surface RT, will Android at some point?

Yeah most stuff doesn't work on Linux at the moment but maybe?

Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet

pedrofssf94 said:
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
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well dang

FoxyDrew said:
Who told you android ports are coming to this tablet? lol glad your optimistic though
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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You do know no one can see that because you would need to be in the discord server that we dont have an invite to lol

In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...

Nicknackpaddywack101 said:
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.

WinDVD said:
Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Yes, I understand your point. But the fact is that it had Android to start with, with the surface RT you have to use loopholes and bugs to get Linux working in a inefficient way and even the currently working(sort of ) Raspbian based Linux system has a bunch of bugs and missing drivers etc. Power control lacks behind Windows RT (mentiond here:https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/porting-chromium-to-windows-rt.2095686/post-87719273. The sad fact that this device is already 10years old means that it is unlikely people would pay attention to it and use it to develop Android, and even with Android installed the experience would be very limited due to the ram. support would be almost non-existent similar to what happened to the windows phones that got unofficial CM versions. Developers are already moving away from ARM32 to newer ARM64 and a few years later most apps would have a minimum api equivalent to android 6.
There is still a silver lining though. RT devices are dirt cheap since they are almost or practically useless now and Android still has excellent backward compatibility. Anyone who really has interest and the time could pick up the pieces of the Linux project and move on with doing it, but it still would not be easy.
Maybe a crowdfunding project could give devs some incentive?

But for now you could try to run a vm in linux or simply run their linux equivalents. Chromium, firefox, WPS office etc. Raspbian is compatible wih the snap store too, so you could use it just like ubuntu.
I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea, and I really look forward to this project taking off. However, there ultimately is a reason why Windows RT and their RT devices failed to take off.

working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.

jethro tarw said:
working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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Wow! Nice work! Would be interested to know the team behind this marvelous project. (since you mentioned 'we')
Also probably should embed the boot screen with your team's name...