I've been under the impression that the Relay wasn't about to get Nougat support, because it's graphics chip was too old to do Vulkan. However these two sites indicate that Relay support is in the works. http://www.gizmoadvices.com/list-devices-supported-official-lineage-os/ http://lineageosdownload.com/devices-supported-by-lineage-os/
I'd not be prone to trust that, since they seem to essentially be the same list. (echo-chamber?) However this site http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-lineage-os/ with download links shows some supported Samsung devices of similar vintage to the Relay, perhaps even older.
I plan to look into this more, but in the meantime, does anyone else know anything?
I also plan to upload my Dec 3 and Dec 29 images from last year to my google drive, and will make those known here, once I have. They're not fully tested - I did a bit more explicit testing of the Dec 3 image, but I'm currently running the Dec 29 image.
Edit - some content:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBceVGlWV05fUlVObUU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBceRDd5elpZbFZETVk
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBcecmxBR2xzV2N2cTQ
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_MKeoY9qBceVWJQSEUwaXpiNFk
(I fear I've lost track of which is which, but two are zips and two are checksums. Two are Dec 4 and two are Dec 29.)
Nice one! i've been running my relay on the stock OS for years. It's running slow as a dog. I really need to learn how to flash it with a nice new ROM.
That would be awesome if the Relay would get a second life.... i'm sooo close to drop it and buy the Nokia 6... hope HMD is living up to some customers expectations and is building a new communicator... love my old buddy E7.
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by the way, the Relay is in basic the S III. But I'm quite astonished that they support the Relay ()
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That would be awesome if the Relay would get a second life.... i'm sooo close to drop it and buy the Nokia 6... hope HMD is living up to some customers expectations and is building a new communicator... love my old buddy E7.
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by the way, the Relay is in basic the S III. But I'm quite astonished that they support the Relay ()
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By "E7" you mean the Nokia E7, right? Oh, I have often fantasized about a device in an E7 chassis but with new internals and running Android... except for the weight, that was my favourite form factor ever, keyboard or not
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BTW since my Relay is definitely not my daily driver, more than happy to give these builds a whirl...
so will there bea linage os for the relay 4g. if so I would be interested for afriend of mine . he loves the relay and so he is wondering if there will be development for linage for the relay 4g. please let me know.
I'm updating here the last CM recovery in case someone needs it.
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so will there bea linage os for the relay 4g. if so I would be interested for afriend of mine . he loves the relay and so he is wondering if there will be development for linage for the relay 4g. please let me know.
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The leaks of the soon to be supported devices have the Relay on it. I can't believe it yet but why not? The Relay is the last Android QWERTY with decent hardware. As i stated before in another thread the S III is nearly identical to the Relay and the SoC is/was quite popular and built in many devices. The chances are high (to good to be true)
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The leaks of the soon to be supported devices have the Relay on it. I can't believe it yet but why not? The Relay is the last Android QWERTY with decent hardware. As i stated before in another thread the S III is nearly identical to the Relay and the SoC is/was quite popular and built in many devices. The chances are high (to good to be true)
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I've done a bit of looking since, and see that Lineage OS is advertising both Marshmallow and Nougat support. I suspect that means that the Relay is going to get Marshmallow, not Nougat. My impression is that Nougat required Vulkan graphics, and the Relay's graphics chip wasn't capable of that. Still, Marshmallow will be newer and presumably more secure than KitKat.
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I've done a bit of looking since, and see that Lineage OS is advertising both Marshmallow and Nougat support. I suspect that means that the Relay is going to get Marshmallow, not Nougat. My impression is that Nougat required Vulkan graphics, and the Relay's graphics chip wasn't capable of that. Still, Marshmallow will be newer and presumably more secure than KitKat.
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Even Marshmallow would be a welcome advance for the Relay venerable Relay.
I love my Relay so much that I want it keep it forever.
I bought a couple of extras, so I have some hardware for testing and I am eager to assist anyone who wishes to continue development for the Relay.
Please contact me if I can assist you and/or please direct me to someone whom I can assist.
thanks in advance,
- Soul Singin'
LineageOS released their list of officially supported devices and the Relay is not on it. I jumped onto the Lineage OS IRC channel to ask the devs what exactly they'd need to get the Relay officially supported. They said they need a working device tree + kernel. I emailed them the info they asked for and will let you guys know how it goes.
My Relay is my daily driver running CM11 and an more up to date rom would be amazing.
check out the development area here at xda, i'm sure there was a kernel over there. i do think that for someone like reventech from the validus project that task would be easy as a pie. don't they have the sources of cyanogenmod? the mirrors are down am i right? on that github should have been the source. i'm not able to build android yet. as an administrator my free time is quite limited
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LineageOS released their list of officially supported devices and the Relay is not on it. I jumped onto the Lineage OS IRC channel to ask the devs what exactly they'd need to get the Relay officially supported. They said they need a working device tree + kernel. I emailed them the info they asked for and will let you guys know how it goes.
My Relay is my daily driver running CM11 and an more up to date rom would be amazing.
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Would you be willing to send me the device tree, as well. Or perhaps since I have the sources sitting around, I presume there's a device tree there. I've read about the device tree on Phoronix, but have never really walked through one.
Also, since I've got a source tree, I've also got a kernel in there. However will Marshmallow use the same kernel as KitKat? Oh, google was my friend: https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/51651/which-android-runs-which-linux-kernel
Android Version |API Level |Linux Kernel in AOSP
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1.5 Cupcake |3 |2.6.27
1.6 Donut |4 |2.6.29
2.0/1 Eclair |5-7 |2.6.29
2.2.x Froyo |8 |2.6.32
2.3.x Gingerbread |9, 10 |2.6.35
3.x.x Honeycomb |11-13 |2.6.36
4.0.x Ice Cream San|14, 15 |3.0.1
4.1.x Jelly Bean |16 |3.0.31
4.2.x Jelly Bean |17 |3.4.0
4.3 Jelly Bean |18 |3.4.39
4.4 Kit Kat |19, 20 |3.10
5.x Lollipop |21, 22 |3.16.1
6.0 Marshmallow |23 |3.18.10
7.0 Nougat |24 |4.4.1
7.1 Nougat |25 |4.4.1 (To be updated)
So the problem is that we need a new kernel, and need to map the old config to the new. OK, I always save my kernel configs, and one of my home machines goes clear back to 3.7 and up to the present, except that while I have configs for 3.16 and 3.20, I'm missing everything in between. Another system has five different 3.18 kernel configs, but only goes back to 3.16.3. I know these configs are not usable for Android, but I'm hoping they can give me an indication of what changed between the relevant levels. Scratch that, one the first machine mentioned, I have a 3.18.8 kernel config laying around as well as 3.10.0, 3.10.9, and 3.10.10 configs. Sadly, there are 1570 lines of diff between the two. Haven't looked at any details yet.
This looks like a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem. I'm going to presume that I can't just stuff a 3.18.10 kernel into my CM11 build and expect it to work - though that's the way Linus would like it to be, and the two kernels aren't that far apart.
Pardon the rambling.
EDIT: I just checked my source tree, and I appear to have the kernel source there. Actually there seem to be two sources, "samsung/d2" and "samsung/t1". Neither appears to have been compiled, because I only see .c and .h files in there, nor is there a .config file. Luckily I just checked my Relay, and found "/proc/config.gz". Oh, and here's the other oddity: "uname -a" returns "3.4.104-cyanogenmod-g61tc527e", not the expected 3.10. I may have to grab a Validus image, if I can still find one.
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So the problem is that we need a new kernel, and need to map the old config to the new. OK, I always save my kernel configs,
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Attached is my: /cm_repo/kernel/samsung/d2/arch/arm/configs/cyanogen_apexq_defconfig for CM 11, which uses kernel 3.4.95 and android 4.4.4
Does this help? If so or if not, please tell me how I can help.
And thank you for your help!
- Soul Singin'
would to know how it goes as well, any updates?
from what i've been told they have no plans for it either
https://www.facebook.com/LineageAndroid/posts/1499401083412550?comment_id=1499658536720138
any new news on any development for this device. i know that the s3 has gotten its linage os 14.1 rom and how come the relay whihc is based off of the s3 cant get a 14.1 rom. just wondering.
I know everyone hates a 'me too'. I have been a T699 user for about as long as it's been introduced. I also use a Stratosphere II and a Galaxy S5, but my Relay is still my favorite. I hope the developers at LineageOS will still consider supporting this phone. Thanks in advance.
Even though it's not my main phone anymore, I love pulling out my Relay now and then. In fact I'm using it as a music & podcast player since the SD card reader in my main phone died. The only thing that stops me from using it more is that the battery drops like a stone when it's got cellular signal/data going, to the point that it almost unusable day-to-day as a connected device. But it's got great standby life so I'm pretty sure it's the OS, not the battery. I would love it if a new OS actually fixed the battery drain...
It would be a dream to geht lineage OS in the relay 4g. Any advance Herr???
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Hello, first time poster here!
Let me start off by saying that I have lurked XDA Forums for quite some time, what a great resource this place is for guides on rooting and rom flashing!
I literally just bought an LG Optimus L70 version MS323_0220 KitKat. for $99 new from Best Buy. I was able to root this device with GeoHotz TowelRoot APK method and enable writing to the external SD Card with an additional application.
I am interested in flashing CyanogenMod on this device. I have read that no one has yet unlocked the bootloader ( I haven't found any resources for that anyway ). I have had CyanogenMod on nearly all of my devices in the past ( I break my phone screens a lot, drop in water, etc. ) and I must say that CyanogenMod Firmware is the best Firmware hands down. I don't think I can live without CyanogenMod. I haven't seen any resource that would get CyanogenMod on this device.
So really my question is: Has anyone successfuly flashed the CM Firmware for this device? If not, does it look like CM will be available for this device or should I just return it to the store and get something else?
I am a Computer Programmer ( mostly web languages, but I do C++ also and I'm a quick learner with the right direction ), but I am not too familliar with the Android SDK or Android frameworks, bootloaders, etc. I just know that it's ****ing awesome. I use Linux for everything. Tomato OS on my routers, CM on my previous devices, Arch Linux on my laptop.
If none have flashed CM Firmware, but you need another programmer on your team hit me up, because I do get some free time and I could work on such a project for this device. But do tell me if it looks grim for CM on this device because I'll just take it back and pay a little extra for something else that already has CM available for it. If not, we could coordinate here or on IRC in doing development for this device.
The reasons I'd like to keep this device are because of a few different factors: According to the phones hardware specs it operates on multiple bands, it's LTE, CDMA, GSM and the frequencies can operate on AT&T, T-Mobile, MetroPCS and a handful of other service providers. It's cheap ($99), has decent hardware (dual core snapdragon, 1gb ram, 4gb rom, gorilla glass 3, 2040 MiliAMP hours, 4.5" WVGA screen with a fair resolution but with CM you could increase the resolution based on the processor specs and rewrite the camera software to get better operation out of it) all in all it's a great phone for the price and CM would make it 100x better.
Also, I don't feel this thread fits into a Q&A so I posted it here, I understand how anal mods are at keeping threads organized because I'm the same way, but looking at the Q&A threads I don't think it fits into that category.
Thanks XDA!
Hi!
Welcome!
Here is a thread about root for your device......but, I don't think anyone has rooted some of the carriers, including yours unfortunately.
However....its a great thread to ask about it in....see of anyone has figured out any ways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52214999
Again, as far as I've read, this won't work for you....but you can discuss it there.
Good luck! ?
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Oh....so yeah, no CM obviously.
Is anyone interested in porting lollipop to this device from the i900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-i9000/i9000-development/rom-t3054101
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Is anyone interested in porting lollipop...
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I appreciate your enthusiasm for this device. Unfortunately, there is no meaningful open-source kernel support for Samsung devices. While we were able to get the SGS 4G running reasonably stably for KitKat, taking it to Lollipop would be a far stretch. This is not the same device as the Galaxy S (I9000), no matter the external similarities.
Mine is limping along on OmniROM 4.4.4 as a spare phone for my foreign SIM, but it takes a few minutes to boot. I can't imagine taking the time to develop and build the kernel drivers required for Lollipop.
I'd suggest continuing to run one of the ROMs available in this forum, or purchasing a more contemporary phone if you want to run Lollipop.
I'd love to see Lollipop be ported to this device, which I have. However, I have moved on, and now have 2 devices running Lollipop, if you look at my signature.
It's not an impossible feat, it's a matter of resources and time. Some debug tools like a riff box or other jtag. And time that, for me at least, is pretty busy with work and other projects.
The biggest problems of any sgs port is the lack of internal storage and slow mmc (so moving data to mmc is bad) and the ST-Ericsson radio. Also, the internal onenand flash is bigger then the other sgs devices so you have to update the flash layout.
The kernel on my github has either a gpio issue or wake-lock unbalance. So if the screen turns off, the phone basically doesn't wake up.
Without some serious work done to the kernel, and someone's time, I don't for see lollipop on the sgs4g.
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Hey did anyone install android N preview 1? I haven't installed it cause it only released a preview 1, Maybe i'll installed it when preview 5 is released.
I'll link a source down below if anyone is wanting to install it
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/224457-how-to-install-the-android-n-developer-preview-on-your-device-right-now
This is only for nexus devices
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as its name suggests, it is only for developer, for testing their apps etc. if you're not a developer, it is better to wait for a final release. unless you like living with bugs, crashes and other possible instability issues.
How likely will the MXP get an official N release from Motorola?
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How likely will the MXP get an official N release from Motorola?
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I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
I have been wondering about this too but its too early. It is a preview of N and the android development platform for android N or whatever it will be called called is not yet released - after google I/O in may .....may be . In six months or more (alot more ) there something like cm 14 or other rom. Be patient
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I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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Yay!! :highfive:
The host of this thread wanted to get someone try it and let him know what it is possible or not/
right?
I hope it's 64bit
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I hope it's 64bit
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Nope, it will stay 32 bit. There will be no performance difference either way. I also will support the X Play until it can't anymore
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Nope, it will stay 32 bit. There will be no performance difference either way. I also will support the X Play until it can't anymore
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yeah, i know 32-64 bit doesn't change the performance much. 64 bit just supports more RAM and has more address lines.
i hope to do the same, but building from scratch is very confusing when you are a beginner. still trying though.
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yeah, i know 32-64 bit doesn't change the performance much. 64 bit just supports more RAM and has more address lines.
i hope to do the same, but building from scratch is very confusing when you are a beginner. still trying though.
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PM if you need help. Would like to help
Not so quick question:
When Google releases a AOSP -source code ect - for android N or any other version CM team make a basic CM version - a core of the OS so to speak - so that people who maintain a given device like MXP can adapt it to work. And that takes time....I over simplified the whole process - which surely includes lots of coding and magic - but all in all is this how it it's made ?
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Not so quick question:
When Google releases a AOSP -source code ect - for android N or any other version CM team make a basic CM version - a core of the OS so to speak - so that people who maintain a given device like MXP can adapt it to work. And that takes time....I over simplified the whole process - which surely includes lots of coding and magic - but all in all is this how it it's made ?
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We need a final N and caf being updated. Then when a rom updates to that we can try building it for Lux (Code name Moto X Play) and fixing everything. Then Motorola will update it so we can use the blobs and kernel to make it even more stable.
You can look on motorola upgrade support page, there is info fo several models and android versions. We cant be sure if N will come to MXP, but Im sure, Motorola has great support and its normal, that phones gets two major upgrades. So MXP started on L, moved to M and N is very likely.
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I'm fairly confident Motorola will provide an N upgrade for lux. In any case, you'll get it with custom ROMs (after the final N build is ready). The CPU and GPU are perfectly fine for the purpose and I expect it have zero difficulties with it. I plan to continue supporting this device till at least 2018.
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well i have to keep my moto x play as long as I can, maybe for 3-4 more years because I just bought it :/ and I really hope lenovo release android N for MXP.
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I don't think they will, i mean, yes MXP has 5.5 inches and 1080p screen but the RAM and processor is kinda weak for android N :/. but what do i know, I maybe a bit good at tech but i'm not a tech guy, but let's keep our hopes up that Lenovo will release android N for MXP
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its obviusly mxp will get android n, its a 2015 smartphone ... general mobile (android one) its on beta program and only have a 410; as much as android Lollipop/Marshmallow/ N are very optimized, work flawless in practically "any device" with 1gb ram
Guys, since remix OS is likely dead here is a good option. Phoenix OS!
They have updated to Android Nougat which is the very first android version to provide awesome multiwindow API in the AOSP, so Android 7 supports multiwindow better than before. I mean instead of emulating the multiwindow function in Remix and Phoenix OSs before, Android nougat natively supports it in the new Phoenix OS version.
It's still in alpha but works fine for me. Here's the link: http://www.phoenixos.com/en/download_x86
wrong thread remix is not dead gtfo
BaconSeeds said:
wrong thread remix is not dead gtfo
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when was the last update?
4 month ago... says github
But its a valid point..
I think resources are now focused on remix io..
but I hope this x86 project gets new wind...when the IO devices finally comes out
Remix isn't dead on the parts where they make money but they have lost THERE KEY EMPLOYEE and things have ... well.. lets just say they have fallen apart and Remix on the x86 side looks GRIM!! Looks pretty much dead but then again they could surprise us with another release.
No update since November, no sight of any Jide employee on XDA in months (not even so much as a "Hey, we haven't forgotten about you."), and Chih-Wei Huang left Jide after only 8 months and is even thinking about quitting the entire project (WTF was so bad to make him have to consider this?!). It's pretty safe to say it's dead. It can still be revived, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Now, if we can only get the Phoenix OS devs to listen to the community more, we might still have hope.
What is awesome about Phoenix OS is the regular updates with no more than month wait time and that they DO LISTEN to their users. I loved Remix OS more but Phoenix OS is just fine. And the Android nougat gives phoenix a way big advantage over remix os.
Chih-Wei Huang left. So yea Remix OS IO device is the last one.
Mirroring with Pheonix
Hi all,
Right now i am using remix os in my acer e 573g laptop. works fine. but since there s no update from november i wish to go with phoenix. And i just wanted to know that, whether phoenix os supports VGA out. I do have a big wide screen monitor attached to my laptop using VGA port. Remix works fine in this case. shall i expect the same from the pheonix also?
thanks in advance
I tried their latest Alpha version v2.0.1.78 64-bit. Although it has solved a lot of bugs, it has introduced the Remix's freezing bug. Whenever a game is opened, system freezes within a minute. My laptop is Asus R558UQ with i5 7th gen, HD 620 and Nvidia 940mx card. The bug has something to do with the dual cards.
Can't guarantee but higher kernel version means better support to devices try and give feedback
just tried but there is no google play
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just tried but there is no google play
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Will be coming soon
Google Play Store will be added later. They trying to finishing up adding their apps and stuff first. You still can install some apps that doesn't require Google account to run.
base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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Where at on that forums? I didn't see any post on this.
You might like to move the discussion to https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/phoenix-os
Use EXTMOD=i915 in grub and try. It will use the intel hd card and 'ignore' the nvidia one. The intel VGA has way better drivers and is strong enough to handle all games at high FPS. I play Asphalt 8 using Skylake intel 530 on Remix OS and is ****in smooth
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base on phoenix os forum, Chih-Wei Huang is working on OPENTHOS now
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Link or it didn't happen.
Update: After some short research, I was able to find this on the OpenThOs github -- https://github.com/openthos/system-analysis/issues/88
And he's listed at the very top of the developer list here. -- https://github.com/openthos/openthos/wiki/developer-list
Looks like we still have a chance people!! lol
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Great project but on my huawei Matbook HZ-W09 wifi always disconnects! Someone knows why?
Hi all. I had a family member offload a DragonTouch S8 Tablet on me (because I collect tech junk, apparently) and I am wondering if there is anything I can do to make this thing even partially useful. The current OS is garbage and it is loaded down with bloat. Thinking a ROM might help. I am not new to roms. I put CyanogenMod on my Samsung Captivate a couple years back. Problem is, the brand/model of this tablet is so obscure that I have not been able to find a "supported" release from the major ROMS out there (LineageOS, OmniRom, Resurrection Remix, etc). Do you guys know of a "generic" ROM that might work for this thing? Or is it just destined for the trash bin?
I am unable to post links just yet. The tablet in question is the "S8" and you can find it on the dragontouch(.com) website.