So I got my Nvidia Shield a while back. The first thing I did when getting it was installing all the updates. Eventually after the final update was installed, I did a full factory reset of the device.
I have hardly any apps installed besides the essential Google applications, but my Nvidia Shield still feels remarkably slow. Chrome is practically unusable, and switching between apps is not a pleasant experience at all. That said, benchmarks and games perform wonderfully, which has me a bit puzzled. There doesnt seem to be any problems with memory leaks as there is plenty of RAM available. I do tend to restart it quite often just to see if it makes a difference, but I doesnt really feel like it has much of an impact.
Does anyone here have similar issues at all? I have worked with Android quite a bit and never have I experienced a system run Android so much worse than you would expect given the hardware specifications. My Nexus 10 feels a lot more snappy in general use.
Thanks for any help
All I can say is that I have a similar experience to you, although I have quite a lot of applications installed. I don't have any solutions for you, only to wait and hope that nvidia optimises the software for the hardware in the next update (Android 5.1 hopefully)
It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
I've had this problem too.
I just turned off battery saver. It got too low, automatically turned on and I didn't realize but when I turned it off, it got way faster.
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It's up to you, but I will recommend you to try this:
1) Unlock bootloader and Root (If you haven't).
2) Use CWM in this thread as custom recovery, I know TWRP is fancier but has some issues while flashing and wiping stuff, tending to not cleanly install things.
3) Try @BitOBSessiOn custom CM12 ROM here.
4) As stated there, avoid CM gapps, we don't know why but they are culprit of making the system lag A LOT making it almost unusable as you posted, specially if you frequently use Facebook and Chrome. Instead use the minimal gapps posted there.
5) Really important step: Activate Developer Options and disable all animations, lollipop men leak resides on a function called when the system draws them, so the only temporal fix for this is disabling them, after that, reboot and kill any bloatware app on options > apps (G+, FB, Messenger, Vine, Chrome, etc)
6) Profit
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The Lollipop memleak bug is pretty easy to detect though and that's not what's causing the performance issue on the Shield Tablet. At least not in my case. While I would normally be the first to unlock my bootloader and port CM to my new device, I would want to keep my tablet stock.
Im glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing issues so Im going to assume that there's nothing specifically wrong with my device in particular. I guess Ill give Nvidia one more chance to rectify performance issues with their next update, otherwise I'm selling the tablet and buying a Nexus 9 or something else.
I have the same experience. I have flashed the latest recovery image, unlocked and rooted. I have disabled apps I don't need and does not have a lot of apps installed. It is unbelievable slow. Like stated above Chrome is almost useless and switching apps is painful. I am using my Nexus 10 too, the Shield tablet will collect dust until there is a fix released.
If I have the time I will try flashing CM12 but I rather stay stock.
You should give it a shot...
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
albertorodast2007 said:
Chrome lag totally solved. Most Nvidia apps work. Only deal breaker is the controller, but a ps3 controller can be paired via BT using sixaxis app.
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This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
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Root your tab. Do a nandroid backup, backup your apps with titanium backup, flash cm or team eos rom (gotta plug my stuff, restore your apps with titanium. If you don't like it, restore your nandroid and you're back like nothing ever happened.
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I have it rooted, with xposed, and a lot of apps. I may try CM over the weekend.
NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
This has almost convinced me to switch to cm12.
If it just werent for the loss of Dabbler, some other Nvidia apps and the fact that I have a looooot of apps installed...
Not worried about gamepad, because I use an ipega 9023.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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Dabbler works fine on CM. It's on the Play Store.
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And GRID also works fine. The only deal breakers (and the ones every dev is working hard to make em work on AOSP) are console mode and the controller wireless pairing.
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jasonpctech said:
I may have found the holy grail of slow laggy freezy hell! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager under tasks go to 3 dot menu at top right choose minfree manager pick the top silder and max it out. Hit apply, let app stay in background and proceed with speedy happy days.
I don't know why but it won't keep the settings after boot no matter what I do but I can live with it now and don't fantasize about smashing it with a rock anymore.
I should mention short of non-stock Nvidia roms I tried EVERYTHING twice! This just works for 3 days now perfectly. I actually might even trust it in a week for actual work applications. My poor old Nexus 7 gen one was totally owning the Shield except for game until now.
I have a LTE USA model running rooted 4.4 Kit Kat. I would guess this will work with 5 as well.
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That's contradictory. I have a really tiny LMK value for foreground apps (foreground= 8mb, Visible=16, secondary=32, hidden=64, content provider=96, empty=128 ) so apps in the foreground are killed only if system goes under 8mb of free ram, and have no lag, but I'm on CM12.1. So I really don't know how this is working but I'm glad for you. Although it may drain your battery faster BC android is killing apps as soon as they go to the foreground to keep that amount of free ram and is using more CPU cycles to load them back when you need them again, that's what I get. But anyone with more knowledge maybe could guide us why this is working???
Interesting, it's working but I didn't even try any other variables. I will try your settings and get back. Needless to say battery life is next after usability.
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Ok tried your suggestion verbatim. It immediately was back in useless mode as I have been calling it. Without a reboot it took me at least 15min to get back to here. Still could not type so minmanged back to previous settings and its running. Weird.
My test would have been run Facebook, chrome & this app with poweramp music. Never got halfway before it got all James May on me. Are we running the same tablet? Any thoughts on why we could have opposed settings and get different successful results.
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Also when it slows down it gets warmer the settings I'm using leave it pretty cool in comparison.
I'm on stock 5.0.1, 32gb SD + internal memory almost full. I experience some lag mainly with chrome and switching app. Yestetday I tried to set the power saver to "max performance" and the everything seems much smoother..
Make sure you SD cards are formatted with NTFS. exFAT is fine for 32gb, but if you have a 64GB or higher, the card needs to be formatted in a PC using NTFS...
Don't ever let your main ram storage memory get below 500meg.
If somehow you run out of memory,, let's say sub 10megs then all manner of weird things begin to happen including reboots and app crashing. You can jam that external sd1 card full however.
I reset mine several times and tried everything I saw in these threads about the lagginess and stuff.
In the end, I found the solution. I returned the NST and exchanged it for a new iPad Mini 2 32gb Retina Screen... No really.
I love Android on the phone, but it just seems that the tablet arena isn't anywhere near as far along and sorted out yet. Buggy, almost too many options, so you wonder how much love each model gets from the manufacturer, etc... I hate to have a new tablet for $300, and the only way to get it to run the way it was supposed to run out of the box, is to void the warranty, root and install a custom ROM on it, and give up some features in the process.
I like ROMs for things that they do above and beyond the stock experience. I don't feel that I should pay that much for a device and have a ROM be a requirement just to get it to run decently...
So, for my tablet needs, I had to go to the dark side. Good luck!
I will still rock my Note 4 and don't see myself going to Apple for my phone needs any time soon, but for a general purpose tablet for Netflix, email, browsing and basic games... I agonized for hours over this but in the end I just pulled the trigger and exchanged it.
There are some strange difficulties I'd like to solve but won't without help. The First one concerns actualisations - my current version of CyanogenMod is 12.1-20150914=NIGHTLY-bacon, soo the newest one. However I would really like to know why every two weeks when the new actualisations are available, there are always three of them? so with the one i installed came also ver 20150913 and 20150912, should all 3 of them be installed one after another?
2. Using google chrome my phone struggles to play a video from quite a number of players including liveleak, dailymotion and a few more I forgot now, if anyone knows how to fix it I'll be much obliged.
3. I think my dear friends is getting a bit senile =[ freezing once in a while (but still very rarely) and recently it rebooted in a very weird way - I got the black screen, android logo and suddenly it was on without loading (the whole process took about 5-10sec). Again the solution is greatly welcome.
4. Is the jellybean finally available on OPO? can't seem to find it
Huge thanks for all help, I appreciate it and wish you all best of luck, take care!
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There are some strange difficulties I'd like to solve but won't without help. The First one concerns actualisations - my current version of CyanogenMod is 12.1-20150914=NIGHTLY-bacon, soo the newest one. However I would really like to know why every two weeks when the new actualisations are available, there are always three of them? so with the one i installed came also ver 20150913 and 20150912, should all 3 of them be installed one after another?
2. Using google chrome my phone struggles to play a video from quite a number of players including liveleak, dailymotion and a few more I forgot now, if anyone knows how to fix it I'll be much obliged.
3. I think my dear friends is getting a bit senile =[ freezing once in a while (but still very rarely) and recently it rebooted in a very weird way - I got the black screen, android logo and suddenly it was on without loading (the whole process took about 5-10sec). Again the solution is greatly welcome.
4. Is the jellybean finally available on OPO? can't seem to find it
Huge thanks for all help, I appreciate it and wish you all best of luck, take care!
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1. No, all three don't need to be installed, only the most recent one. I'm not sure why you're getting notifications for more than one.
2. Can't comment on this, I have no such issue.
3. There could be countless causes for this, it would be virtually impossible to give you a solution.
4. Jellybean? That's an old Android version, it's several iterations old now. This phone was released on KitKat (4.4.2). Why would anyone create a ROM based on an outdated Android version?
2. it plays a video and suddenly it freezes, sometimes the sound is still playing, sometimes the browser crushes but the video stays on my screen frozen and the sound still goes on.
4. I meant marshmallow, of course, i'm not good with these sweets names
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2. it plays a video and suddenly it freezes, sometimes the sound is still playing, sometimes the browser crushes but the video stays on my screen frozen and the sound still goes on.
4. I meant marshmallow, of course, i'm not good with these sweets names
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Well Marshmallow hasn't even been released by Google yet. There's a port of a dev preview but it's by no means stable. Marshmallow will be officially released at the end of the month, then we should get some ROMs a while after that.
So, I'm obviously not remotely an expert when it comes to Android mods, but I'm finally fed up with being stuck on Android 4.1 - since it doesn't appear we'll ever get any upgraded qwerty phones ever again, I figured I'd try diy'ing it.
I have successfully flashed TWRP, rooted the phone, and installed what I believe(?) to have been the most recent version of CM11 (I figured it'd be cleanest to keep the phone closer to what it was designed for - I've seen tons of apps require 4.4 at minimum, not too many that require 5+): cm-11-20150626-SNAPSHOT-XNG3CAO1L8-moto_msm8960_jbbl.zip. Was the most recent version I could find, anyway?
I booted it up and for the most part, everything seemed to be working. Everything except Chrome, which crashes reliably and immediately. I tried clearing all the caches (the app's cache + data, and the phone's, from recovery), uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome, I tried the beta version (crashes), I tried a fork, Brave (crashes). Other browsers are working fine, but I like Chrome.
One weird thing I did notice: I was thinking it might be a gapps issue, but weirdly, the Play store, gmail, maps, everything else just installed and seem to work out of the box before I did anything with gapps? I did also try flashing the most recent base 4.4.4 gapps zip from what I could tell (gapps-444-base-20170209-1-signed.zip), but I'm not sure how to tell if it actually did anything? It said it flashed successfully, but (other than having to wait for all my apps to recalculate because I cleared all the caches), nothing noticeably seemed to change on the front-end as a result, and yes, Chrome still crashes. Should I be using a different gapps install than that for the Photon Q? Or anything else I should check/try? Thanks!
Yay! Answered my own question, with sufficient digging!
Answer seems to be basically: the newest version of Chrome (v55) exposed some sort of weird incompatibility with CM, so the easy fix is just not to use it, at least for now. I sideloaded Chrome v54, and it stopped crashing, yay! Source: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70762641&postcount=198
Just FYI, the latest version available for this device is CM13.
They are working on Lineage.
Edit - seems you found the CM13 thread already
Yep - I'm glad to see people other than (and smarter than) myself recognize the Photon Q's unique place as being the final and, sadly, best qwerty slider available for our use, and that it therefore needs to be actively maintained even if Motorola won't... I just figured it'd be better to use an OS closer to the one the device was intended to be used with. Once I'm done testing CM11 out on my old half-working phone (re-purposed to a test phone) and push it to my new fully-functional one, I will probably at some point upgrade that first phone to the latest to try it out (probably once a Lineage build comes out, so I can be on a build that's actively being maintained). For right now, though, I figured I'd stick with CM11. Any case, looks like CM13 exposed the same Chrome issue, anyway.
Running Viper ROM and it's only on Android 4.2.2. A lot of apps I can't use because it's not supported, and now the latest Google Play Services has totally broken my phone
Any good ROMs to recommend running a newer version of Android? I need good GPS as I use my phone for navigation a lot
Update to this post: Running jrior's CM 12 from original android dev forum... working pretty well. Performance is a lot faster than Viper 4.2.2 actually. Some apps don't work well at all though, haven't figured out exactly why. Occasionally camera doesn't connect and just shows black too, fixed by a restart. Overall, not bad and gives me the ability to use modern apps on my phone again.
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Update to this post: Running jrior's CM 12 from original android dev forum... working pretty well. Performance is a lot faster than Viper 4.2.2 actually. Some apps don't work well at all though, haven't figured out exactly why. Occasionally camera doesn't connect and just shows black too, fixed by a restart. Overall, not bad and gives me the ability to use modern apps on my phone again.
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How did you get to stabilize it. For me the rom is restarting every few minutes. Sometimes it restarts when I try to install any apk(either from play store or side load).
Hi
I have a Moto G3 from 2015 bought in the UK.
I have Android 6 on it, since that's the latest one I can update to. Some of my apps stopped working with this version though and require 8.0 or newer. I also noticed that when having things like Firefox, VLC, etc. open at the same time, apps are extremely slow and sometimes crash. I need to go into settings>apps and force close stuff to make the phone usable.
I know this is a terrible phone by 2023 standards, but I only use it for calling, texting, videos, and the occasional app. If it's possible to keep it alive for a while longer instead of buying a new one, I say why not.
I know nothing about Android, ROMs, rooting, or anything like that. All I know is I need a newer version, and some of the apps I use require Google Play to be active (eg. Sleep) and access to Location and some other permissions.
I saw some ROMs on this forum, like several versions of LineageOS, but I don't know if that's what I should get or not. I just want the lightest possible OS that can do everything that my current stock Android 6 can do (or, was able to a few months ago).
Any helpful pointers as to where to start?
Thanks