without touchwiz? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

I never had a Samsung phone and thinking of maybe getting the s9+. One reason why is because I don't like there skin and touchwiz. I'm more of a stock nexus like person so I wanted to know if there are any good stock ish roms on the s8 and s8+ or if maybe you have any suggestions for a me.

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nitramus said:
I never had a Samsung phone and thinking of maybe getting the s9+. One reason why is because I don't like there skin and touchwiz. I'm more of a stock nexus like person so I wanted to know if there are any good stock ish roms on the s8 and s8+ or if maybe you have any suggestions for a me.
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Yeah..the hardware is great ,but the software...
And the worst part is when my 2 month old S8 Exynos,which I paid almost 750€ for,starts stuttering. Occasional lag is always present with TouchWiz.
Let's hope the S9 is not gonna do the same.

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I know it is. I'm asking the s8 and s8+ users for there experience.

touchwiz stutters due to widgets and other bloatware running at the same time. side bar menu as well. s9+ will help loads with that extra 2GB. but s8+ runs fine on touchwiz when you stop all the unnecessary items running and taking up system resources.

I just use the Pixel launcher. Works great, no lag, custom icons. Hit up apkmirror.com. I got everything customized on mine.

Been using nova for years

Pavly28 said:
touchwiz stutters due to widgets and other bloatware running at the same time. side bar menu as well. s9+ will help loads with that extra 2GB. but s8+ runs fine on touchwiz when you stop all the unnecessary items running and taking up system resources.
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disabled facebook. problem solved for me lol what a ****ty app that is.

petergharib said:
disabled facebook. problem solved for me lol what a ****ty app that is.
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yeah that's guaranteed. its soo resource hungry.

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TouchWiz Needs An Overhaul

I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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fredrick1213 said:
I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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the last overhaul was the galaxy s3, it wasnt so long ago....
Meh. I really like TouchWiz for what it is. When I was toying with the One before I got my S4, and I thought Sense 5 was still pretty heavily integrated, just as much as TouchWiz is on the S4. I would imagine an overhaul of both stock Android and TouchWiz will come with Key Lime Pie, whenever that is released.
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+1 thats what makes it what it is...tw...runs good...and I have ran every launcher out there....
I have personally thought that although there are tons of bloats, it does its job fairly well. Pretty snappy and responsive. I have looked at sense ui and realized that touchwiz isn't too bad at all.
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I think that on modern phones, if people are running into lag, they don't know how to use their device properly. Disable animations, don't overload it with apps you rarely use, turn off settings you rarely use until you need them. Root helps. Freeze/uninstall bloat. I have no issues at all with both my E4GT and my S4. Why? Because I know how to make the best of it.
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I say TW is simply scratched and something new is born. Stock TW is garbage.
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Why is it garbage?
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fredrick1213 said:
I think TouchWiz is in need of an overhaul. It just seems way too bloated when compared to stock android and Sense. IMO it's kinda reminiscent of Sense 3.5 before it was greatly improved. I'd just like my phone to be speedy and lag free without having to mod it
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Funny I think stock android needs an overhaul. Its too plain and lacks of features. I mean it doesnt even have a quick toggle in the dropdown or brightness control. The simplest features.
I agree with all of you, but compared to some launchers...TW works perfect everytime.....it has NEVER locked up on me, like nova and apex..
as far as an overhaul of the stock, again, at least everything works compared to aosp roms that I ran for a couple years with continuous problems one after the other....
naaaaw. tw rocks.....
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TheAxman said:
I agree with all of you, but compared to some launchers...TW works perfect everytime.....it has NEVER locked up on me, like nova and apex..
as far as an overhaul of the stock, again, at least everything works compared to aosp roms that I ran for a couple years with continuous problems one after the other....
naaaaw. tw rocks.....
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I was fan of CyanogenMod for years now, and didn't care that bluetooth FC or something was wonky in the camera, but because of the TV remote?!**^ the first ROM I flashed was GoldenEye with no add ons, and it's my very first TW instead of AOSP.
I used to be a purist too, but TWRP is too easy, those hard button operations I used to have to do in CWM, don't miss it one bit. And this ROM has cool features as is, flashed it with a simple swipe of a slider bar. Mind numbing easy. I even ditched the original nandoid and moved it to the desktop computer to save 3.56 GB of room on my SD card. I used TWRP to make a backup of my presently pleased state of GoldenEye perfection and checked every available box, and only it's 2.47 GB. Big difference!
I flashed my 2.47 GB backup of my GoldenEye, with no add ons, and found no issues. Flawless. Everything works. No bugs. Not one instance of lag or a force close. Call log and texts messages did not go away. I checked every box when I made my backup. Unbelievable perfection in image reflection!
Last week I dropped it in the toilet with the charge port door open on it's otterbox.
When I was no longer able to charge it, I replaced the charging port myself, just to keep MDL and free from having to endure what everyone with MF3 suffers. It wasn't too hard peeling apart the S4 just to replace the charging port. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5e3r_2N15c You don't have to get this deep into it, only one connector up top instead of all five. I bought my replacement charge port from his YouTube link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...veASIN=B00DHZ2KZ8&linkCode=as2&tag=three04-20
It cost me $14.99 delivered in in two days flat. It arrived yesterday on Saturday and I was able to have the desktop recognize it and it charges like new and I am BOASTING!
Sign that petition that's floating around and get the bootloader unlocked. And say nice things about the whiz kids who are trying to find an exploit for all the MF3 borked users. Amen.
Different Strokes for Different Folks--Not much new here--
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Different Strokes for Different Folks--Not much new here--
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I see a new thread that looks far more exciting than dropping in a toilet. Right behind you!
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I see a new thread that looks far more exciting than dropping in a toilet. Right behind you!
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lol, yeah
we posted at same time never read yours before i posted
I loved Cyanogenmod for years on my S1 and S2. Next AOKP on my S2 was the ****e. Then when ShoStock came to be I tried out Touchwiz based Roms. Sammy did it right with TW this time around. Next was my S3 and TW was real nice with LoserRom and his later creations. Yes the bloat ATT adds is crappy and some of Sammy apps as well. But it is fast and smooth and everything works. Run a custom ROM without the bloat, add in what most CM has for mods to it and it is awesome. Now with my S4 I went straight to ShoStock on its very first bootup.
Did I say I hate ATT yet. Last phone I buy from them though with f'd up bootloaders.
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Maybe I was a bit too harsh. TW has just been frustrating me. I expect a device with these specs to run almost flawlessly. I'm not new to rooting or android so of course I know how to speed the device up. It does get faster when I do this, but still not where it should be
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Curious...if people don't like Touchwiz...why buy a Touchwiz phone? Because of proprietary drivers it is difficult to make a bug free AOSP of any kind on it. It is easier to get Touchwiz like features on a Google phone, so maybe you should look for the next one of those.
kennyglass123 said:
Curious...if people don't like Touchwiz...why buy a Touchwiz phone? Because of proprietary drivers it is difficult to make a bug free AOSP of any kind on it. It is easier to get Touchwiz like features on a Google phone, so maybe you should look for the next one of those.
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Correct, there are many more choices out there, that doesn't have tw as stock launcher.
I dunno, with a few tweaks, tw is super fast.
I actually like TW on the S4 as well. No issue so far here. Smooth and no freezes.
I don't think most people realize it's not tw that's the issue. It's the bloat at&t and Samsung put on the phone. Without that most would love tw. It works!

Fellas is there anyway to install touchwiz style rom instead of CM on Oneplus

Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
The answer is No. But you can use Theme engine that is available on Play Store.
soralz said:
The answer is No. But you can use Theme engine that is available on Play Store.
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Cool . Thanks a lot.
BeerBrewer said:
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
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Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Woolf said:
Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
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Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
Mr Woolf said:
Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
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zephiK said:
Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
zephiK said:
Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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Lol. Chill. Its a bit of fun.
Thanked you by mistake.
Mr Woolf said:
Lol. Chill. Its a bit of fun.
Thanked you by mistake.
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I know dude yr just kidding. Only reason is i saw the phone that my buddy have. Somehow due to its pure android its looks so simple. Even phone setting has everything in one tab. As I had all Sammy phone so far i am pretty used to with that. That was the only reason lol. All cool ^_^
drakester09 said:
But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
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just wondering which one u like better s5 or OPO?
BeerBrewer said:
just wondering which one u like better s5 or OPO?
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OPO... my mind is always tempted to write OPPO... which kinda is true.
The build quality, included storage (64GB vs 16GB), software and even battery life are better for me.
With that much space, not having an SD Card is not a problem to me.
Camera seems to be good, maybe not as good as the S5 in daylight but very good on it's own.
My S5 even when having top of the line specs (38k+ in Antutu) lagged thanks to Touchwiz. Never again.
^^ what he said. I've had galaxy devices since they were released. Believe me cm is MUCH better. Take some time to immerse yourself in the settings - it will really amaze you how much faster cm is.
Cm is actually one of the plainer aosp ROMs - check out carbon or liquid smooth - tweaktastic!
But... Touchwiz is the Satan of ROMs! Touchwiz is so slow and filled with useless blaotware from Samsung. I'd rather use Sense 6.
drakester09 said:
But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
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I think you may want to look up the definition of the word literally.
BeerBrewer said:
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
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Be sure you underclock the CPU and set the governor to conservative, so you can experience lag [emoji57]
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sublimaze said:
Be sure you underclock the CPU and set the governor to conservative, so you can experience lag [emoji57]
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Its too high level talk for me . Pass
I like touchwhiz because of S health.
I really want to buy a OPO but i use S health every day and i will miss it so hard.
Never found a decent alternative (accuracy or battery usage)
I find touchwiz to have better interface than native opo. What I specifically miss on the opo is
1) having the home screens wrap around.
2) let me sort my total list of applications my way.
3) unread count on sms/mms.
4) easy creation of home screens to the left.
I haven't noticed touchwiz to be slow on my S2.
galmok said:
I find touchwiz to have better interface than native opo. What I specifically miss on the opo is
1) having the home screens wrap around.
2) let me sort my total list of applications my way.
3) unread count on sms/mms.
4) easy creation of home screens to the left.
I haven't noticed touchwiz to be slow on my S2.
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You can solve your wishes very easily.
1. Use a different launcher.
2. Use a different launcher.
3. Use a different launcher.
4. Use a different launcher.
I'll take CM over a laggy and bloaty Crapwiz any day.
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timmaaa said:
You can solve your wishes very easily.
1. Use a different launcher.
2. Use a different launcher.
3. Use a different launcher.
4. Use a different launcher.
I'll take CM over a laggy and bloaty Crapwiz any day.
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Pretty much a non-answer.
galmok said:
Pretty much a non-answer.
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How is that a non answer? You can get your One to do every single one of those things by using a launcher like Apex or Nova. Are you not reading or something??
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If I change launcher, do I lose the following features...

Hey all.
Still waiting for my preorder to arrive, but I had a question for you knowledgeable folk.
I really like the Google Now stock launcher. If I were to install that on my S7 Edge, would I lose the "edge" ability of the phone? And how about Samsung Pay?
I'm just thinking that those things are tied to swiping left/up from the homescreen, and so maybe they require the Sammy launcher. I'd be very happy if this weren't the case though!
Anyone got any idea on this?
No. Both should still work with any other launcher although you might have to launch mobile pay via the app link.
tifosi256 said:
Hey all.
Still waiting for my preorder to arrive, but I had a question for you knowledgeable folk.
I really like the Google Now stock launcher. If I were to install that on my S7 Edge, would I lose the "edge" ability of the phone? And how about Samsung Pay?
I'm just thinking that those things are tied to swiping left/up from the homescreen, and so maybe they require the Sammy launcher. I'd be very happy if this weren't the case though!
Anyone got any idea on this?
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it's working well with other launchers on the S6 Edge, so I don't see why it wouldn't on the S7 Edge
Thanks guys! That's good to hear.
I'll try the TW launcher for a bit - not seen TW in a few years, but I'm pretty sure I'll miss the stock one quite soon. At least with Android you get the ability to swap them around whenever you like.
tifosi256 said:
Thanks guys! That's good to hear.
I'll try the TW launcher for a bit - not seen TW in a few years, but I'm pretty sure I'll miss the stock one quite soon. At least with Android you get the ability to swap them around whenever you like.
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I can't see myself using the touch wiz launcher, I haven't used a stock one in years. but i just switched to a very very simple homescreen so I'm willing to give it a shot. I think I may have to disable the news articles and crap on the swipe left though. But again. I'll try it out for a day before going back to Nova.

Cleanest ROM for Galaxy S7

Hey guys!
Okay so I'm quite new to this entire android thing as I switched from iPhone just before the summer and so I decided to get an Samsung S7 but I think it's so ugly and bleh compared to what the Stock android looks like on a friends P9 and was wondering if it's possible to get a clean android ROM and where in that case?
Thanks on before hand for answers!
Start with themes, the android 6.0 looks pretty aosp'ish.
There are some pretty good AOSP ish' themes on the Samsung theme store. I downloaded the "nougat" theme from the store and let me tell you it looks pretty damn AOSP ish'
Mrleijon said:
Hey guys!
Okay so I'm quite new to this entire android thing as I switched from iPhone just before the summer and so I decided to get an Samsung S7 but I think it's so ugly and bleh compared to what the Stock android looks like on a friends P9 and was wondering if it's possible to get a clean android ROM and where in that case?
Thanks on before hand for answers!
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As you switched from iPhone recently, i assume you don't know about launchers?
It changes the whole look and feel of your phone in a few sec.
Try Google Now launcher, Pixel launcher (my fav), Nova Launcher, ....
I believe the title says rom, not themes and launchers.
I personally use Basicplus. It has no bugs, a better battery life and is overall smoother then the stock rom.
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I believe the title says rom, not themes and launchers.
I personally use Basicplus. It has no bugs, a better battery life and is overall smoother then the stock rom.
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Yes but i think an iPhone user without much experience who just wants a different look maybe could try some launchers first
HeaDShoTHuntR1 said:
Yes but i think an iPhone user without much experience who just wants a different look maybe could try some launchers first
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Well, if he hadn't any knowledge about roms then he wouldn't have known about different android skins. Plus rooting and installing a custom rom on the s7 is quite simple. Though I also use a launcher on my s7 and Nova is my choice.
You could browse the development section.
There are alot of debloated and clean roms out there
roba93 said:
You could browse the development section.
There are alot of debloated and clean roms out there
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I am running since a few days S7 extreme debloated.
Quite flawlessly and without any issues.

Lags most of the time ?

Hey everyone , I dont know if someone could relate to my concern or no.
My s8+ lags when I scroll through settings , or some applications.
It even takes a while to open settings menu when im on an app , it kinda reminds me of my old galaxy s3 .
No. My S8+ does not lag.
If you're comparing it to the Galaxy S3 which came out in 2012.... You got problems bud.
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I think the confusion lies with definition. Does the S8 Plus lag, probably not. Does it 'stutter' when scrolling through the home screens, settings, recent apps and browsing, yes occasionally. There are workarounds, like installing Nova Launcher or another launcher entirely. Some people have even sideloaded the older s8 launcher apk (weird I know) because they feel it's smoother. With ALL android, you'll eventually see that stutter. You can't escape that. Updates will make it better of course. But I will say, this is the best version of Touchwiz (Samsung Experience...) I've ever experienced. It feels snappy and smooth for the most part. I used Nova and liked it but went back to stock launcher because of the look and feel. I came from the **** S7 standard, so I certainly know what lag feels like. No where near that level right now.
Delete cache from the start up menu not from settings
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Guys i love the experience on this phone , i came from op3 which was fast but i love thw s8 + ..maybe i should not be that "addicted" to this stuttering thing
Try changing screen resolution then changing it back to what you had it on (FHD to QHD etc) My device smooths out significant. Not sure how this makes sense but it works. Try it!
if you have any bixby remap app installed, it will lag your phone. I tested this with every bixby remap app I could find.
Uninstalled them and my phone is flying again.
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if you have any bixby remap app installed, it will lag your phone. I tested this with every bixby remap app I could find.
Uninstalled them and my phone is flying again.
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Wow you're absolutely right. Removed it and rebooted and no more lag. Thank you!

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