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Stock Android on Epic

I just want to be sure I am not missing anything - there are not any Epic roms out yet right? to put it a different way, every single epic owner on the planet is currently using the Sprint/Samsung factory version of Android 2.1, yes?
Have spent a number of hours on xda and google, but wanted to be sure I was correct on this one.
Just really anxious to get away from Touchwiz, it doesn't even really feel like Android.

dockular said:
I just want to be sure I am not missing anything - there are not any Epic roms out yet right? to put it a different way, every single epic owner on the planet is currently using the Sprint/Samsung factory version of Android 2.1, yes?
Have spent a number of hours on xda and google, but wanted to be sure I was correct on this one.
Just really anxious to get away from Touchwiz, it doesn't even really feel like Android.
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You're correct, no custom roms yet. In the meantime you could install a different launcher such as launcher pro and adw launcher to give your phone a more aosp look
Sent from the future...

Honestly, after I installed ADW Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, rooted the phone, and uninstalled all the Sprint crap with Root Manager / Titanium Backup, I'm actually happy with what's left of Touch Wiz. The dialer / contacts / integration etc is actually pretty nice. My phone looks like stock 2.2 now, but has a few nice improvements.

legacydevice said:
Honestly, after I installed ADW Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, rooted the phone, and uninstalled all the Sprint crap with Root Manager / Titanium Backup, I'm actually happy with what's left of Touch Wiz. The dialer / contacts / integration etc is actually pretty nice. My phone looks like stock 2.2 now, but has a few nice improvements.
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Agreed. I think touchwiz is like a double edgd sword. One the one hand it has a ton of features and usability improvements, on thbe other hand it looks horrible. Launcher pro gets rid of the ugly and adds even more features.
I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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drizek said:
Agreed. I think touchwiz is like a double edgd sword. One the one hand it has a ton of features and usability improvements, on thbe other hand it looks horrible. Launcher pro gets rid of the ugly and adds even more features.
I wouldn't want stock android even if it were available.
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This is good info, thanks guys. maybe we'll get a chef who knows how to keep the good and eliminate the useless/ugly... and hopefully froyo to boot

I'm pretty happy with the stock ROM. I just use LauncherPro instead of Samsung's launcher and it's fantastic.

drizek said:
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I agree 110%, there are some nice improvements once you remove all the crap

To switch to a stock vanilla launcher -- How To: Disable TouchWiz Epic 4G
Although it only has three screens, I've found it to be really really responsive and reliable. It always works very fast.

dockular said:
This is good info, thanks guys. maybe we'll get a chef who knows how to keep the good and eliminate the useless/ugly... and hopefully froyo to boot
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if we get good devs for the epic i may buy one. looks as there isn't as much interest as the evo has.

I can't wait to see some roms start to pop up, gonna be nice to have a working hotspot without paying 30 dollars a month
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Sooty305 said:
I can't wait to see some roms start to pop up, gonna be nice to have a working hotspot without paying 30 dollars a month
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I already got wifi tethering.....I'm rooted, so I installed the app. I'm now putting out a hotspot on 3 laptops in my home.
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Touchwiz 4.0 on Captivate?

With the Galaxy S2 and the brand new Touchwiz 4.0 interface coming out, do you think we'll see a port for our captivates, or for that matter, any of the previous generation Galaxy S models?

Depends on what the demand is for it. And if it is better. As most of us hate it now lol.

I'm sure someone will give it a try but whats the difference? I have not seen TW4.0 yet

There are many changes in design cues. More rectangular widgets, dots on the top moved to the bottom, etc.

I love CheeseWiz, I may try it.

Would porting an s2 rom even be possible? It's for sale for about a grand in europe, so I don't know if we'll see a system dump anytime soon with prices like that
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I'd be willing to try it, just to try something new and to see if it is cool at all. I mean, it's not like I don't already have TWLauncher_3.0 Frozen w/ TiBu and I'm running GO Launcher.
I mean, it looks awesome, but it is samsung.....
They make some awesome things, but then if there is a problem, it'll never get fixed, even after working on an update for infinity years....

What are some new features in the new TWlauncher?

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What are some new features in the new TWlauncher?
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Just google Touchwiz 4.0 and watch some of the videos of it.

It looks from the videos I've been watching to be much better than CheeseWhiz 3. I'm sure that there's still plenty of room for improvement though. Wish we had a solid release date on the AT&T-compatible International model.

come on~ We've got MIUI now!!! Try flash the MIUI rom, it kills all other roms in the forum~~

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come on~ We've got MIUI now!!! Try flash the MIUI rom, it kills all other roms in the forum~~
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MIUI looks kewl but guess its a personal choice.
I would like to stick to Continuum or Cognition before we have a stable 2.3+ Rom for the Cappy. ADW launcher or launcher pro do the looks for me.
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Kernel: eXistZ's KB1 #7 beta

shengshuyang said:
come on~ We've got MIUI now!!! Try flash the MIUI rom, it kills all other roms in the forum~~
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miui is cool if you spend time setting it up but the lack of an app drawer bothers me. i like things hidded, with miui i have to mess with folders which is annoying for a cronic rom flasher. i have slowed doen on the rom flashing because i am tired of the whole proceedure of making thing perfect.

Resolve for ICS displeasure

Looks like the aftermarket has been working hard on Android 4.0 compatibility because I was able to install both the ADWLauncher EX and LauncherPro Plus launchers on my ICS phone and they work fine. I chose to stay with ADWLauncher EX because of looking much more like the original ICS UI and allowing the same folder creation as in ICS. And the dock looks much the same. The only drawback is the lack of the search bar at the top. I prefer it.
Usability wise, these launchers completely smooth out ICS to buttery goodness. ADWLauncher EX allows for scrolling speed adjustment that makes a quick flick a pleasurable experience, no lag to be suffered anywhere. Both launchers bring back the more desired widget choosing function of previous Androids...tap & hold on homescreen.
It's really pleasing now. You get the functional goodness of ICS (excellent multitasker, softkeys and all that ICS brings performance-wise without the troubling UI performance issues.
Oh, and you get to use the OEM scrollable widgets.

Oh dear... And now you're back to liking ICS. You're quite impulsive with your opinions, what will it be tomorrow?
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MartyLK said:
Looks like the aftermarket has been working hard on Android 4.0 compatibility because I was able to install both the ADWLauncher EX and LauncherPro Plus launchers on my ICS phone and they work fine. I chose to stay with ADWLauncher EX because of looking much more like the original ICS UI and allowing the same folder creation as in ICS. And the dock looks much the same. The only drawback is the lack of the search bar at the top. I prefer it.
Usability wise, these launchers completely smooth out ICS to buttery goodness. ADWLauncher EX allows for scrolling speed adjustment that makes a quick flick a pleasurable experience, no lag to be suffered anywhere. Both launchers bring back the more desired widget choosing function of previous Androids...tap & hold on homescreen.
It's really pleasing now. You get the functional goodness of ICS (excellent multitasker, softkeys and all that ICS brings performance-wise without the troubling UI performance issues.
Oh, and you get to use the OEM scrollable widgets.
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I have a great setup on an Evo I modded for someone with Launcher Pro skinned to look exactly like ICS, on a CM7 ROM with Theme Chooser set to an ICS theme. It looks and feels amazing.
I don't think I will ever use stock launcher on an aosp device, it's so funny how 3rd party launcher guys make it so much smoother than google does.
ICS as an OS, although I like it, is starting a trend I don't like as "user friendly" to the point where things are harder to deal with. I actually prefer GB style widget adding instead of the HC sort and ICS sort where you swype the dock to get to the widgets. Other things like that. I don't know, maybe I just need to get used to it.

This should go in your other thread about ICS being a letdown, rather than starting a new one. Would you raise that for a mod please?
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Archer said:
This should go in your other thread about ICS being a letdown, rather than starting a new one. Would you raise that for a mod please?
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Have a look at that thread...I won't spoil it for you, go take a look.

MartyLK said:
Have a look at that thread...I won't spoil it for you, go take a look.
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I see it was quite rightly closed.
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Archer said:
What I meant was that you should not have started this thread. Please ask a mod to merge them or close this one.
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Wow...really? You didn't see that the other thread was closed??
Apologies for seeming insensitive.

Duhh..i thought the biggest new thing about ICS would have been the ability to have a decent experience out of the box, knowing that i can change the launcher doesn't impress me much. Tbh 2.3 had already nearly all of the functions i needed, what i really wanted was a smoother and simplified ui, with less workarounds to be used, and at the end of the day it doesn't seems like ICS is really bringing that stuff to the user. Just my 2 cents.

vnvman said:
Duhh..i thought the biggest new thing about ICS would have been the ability to have a decent experience out of the box, knowing that i can change the launcher doesn't impress me much. Tbh 2.3 had already nearly all of the functions i needed, what i really wanted was a smoother and simplified ui, with less workarounds to be used, and at the end of the day it doesn't seems like ICS is really bringing that stuff to the user. Just my 2 cents.
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I tend to agree, I like 2.3 with a custom launcher over 4.x with stock launcher any day.

I just did a clean install of Android 4.0.3 on my HD2 and the difference is night and day. It is sublime. So buttery smooth and fast. The Galaxy Nexus is now back on the table and a wanted piece of hardware.

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I just did a clean install of Android 4.0.3 on my HD2 and the difference is night and day. It is sublime. So buttery smooth and fast. The Galaxy Nexus is now back on the table and a wanted piece of hardware.
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Does it compare well to the ui smoothness of wp7 as not having ics myself I am curious?
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Does it compare well to the ui smoothness of wp7 as not having ics myself I am curious?
Dave
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Not with the stock UI. It approaches iPhone smooth, but not WP7 smooth. But I am using ADW EX launcher and with that, it is WP7 smooth. I was using ADW on 4.0.2 and it made ICS very usable. But with 4.0.3, the difference is spectacular, to put it modestly.

Wish we could get this for Samsung Tab 10.1's already.

I'm liking the stock launcher. My Nexus runs like a champ.
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vetvito said:
I'm liking the stock launcher. My Nexus runs like a champ.
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Yeah, the stock launcher is really, really good. The best stock launcher of any of the Nexus'. I just find more convenience with ADW and it looks almost exactly the same...configured the right way.

I'm a huge fan of how smooth ICS is, regardless of the launcher. I've not messed around with Honeycomb too much, so going from Gingerbread to ICS is a huge jump for me in terms of appearance and performance.

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Not with the stock UI. It approaches iPhone smooth, but not WP7 smooth. But I am using ADW EX launcher and with that, it is WP7 smooth. I was using ADW on 4.0.2 and it made ICS very usable. But with 4.0.3, the difference is spectacular, to put it modestly.
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Its not because of changes in adw then? Would love to know what they changed to make the difference but glad they did it.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Its not because of changes in adw then? Would love to know what they changed to make the difference but glad they did it.
Dave
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It dawns on me that the quality and pleasure I'm experiencing now could be something entirely to do with Tytung's efforts with his custom ROM rather than a reality of the 4.0.3 OEM.
ADW is exactly the same between the two version. I can't see them making any changes from one to the next in such a short period of time. Not saying it's impossible, just saying unlikely. With this custom ROM, I actually updated to 4.0.3 initially rather than do a clean install. Even with an update 4.0.3 was noticeably smoother. Only until I did a clean install did I experience the speed and buttery smoothness of 4.0.3. It is a dramatic difference.

Well,you can even try GoLauncher on ICS and it'll be buttery smooth too,whereas in Gingerbread it's nowhere near the other launchers in terms of smoothness(Unless you own a 1.6GHz Galaxy S II ).Hardware acceleration does good after all.And some under-the-hood improvements in 4.0.3 are what makes it as good.Wait for some proper roms and you'll see(Not that Tytung's rom or any other ICS rom isn't good,but none of them is final,rather something like being in beta phase).

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It dawns on me that the quality and pleasure I'm experiencing now could be something entirely to do with Tytung's efforts with his custom ROM rather than a reality of the 4.0.3 OEM.
ADW is exactly the same between the two version. I can't see them making any changes from one to the next in such a short period of time. Not saying it's impossible, just saying unlikely. With this custom ROM, I actually updated to 4.0.3 initially rather than do a clean install. Even with an update 4.0.3 was noticeably smoother. Only until I did a clean install did I experience the speed and buttery smoothness of 4.0.3. It is a dramatic difference.
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So maybe tytung somehows trims down ics to remove problem issues?
Dave
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Fellas is there anyway to install touchwiz style rom instead of CM on Oneplus

Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .

The answer is No. But you can use Theme engine that is available on Play Store.

soralz said:
The answer is No. But you can use Theme engine that is available on Play Store.
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Cool . Thanks a lot.

BeerBrewer said:
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
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Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!

Mr Woolf said:
Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
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Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.

Mr Woolf said:
Why? Why? WHY?!!!!!!!!!!
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Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...

zephiK said:
Because its his phone and he paid for it so he can do what he wants. Its Android, u can customize ur phone the way you want. If he wants it touchwiz then he can. Be respectful.
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Lol. Chill. Its a bit of fun.
Thanked you by mistake.

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Lol. Chill. Its a bit of fun.
Thanked you by mistake.
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I know dude yr just kidding. Only reason is i saw the phone that my buddy have. Somehow due to its pure android its looks so simple. Even phone setting has everything in one tab. As I had all Sammy phone so far i am pretty used to with that. That was the only reason lol. All cool ^_^

drakester09 said:
But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
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just wondering which one u like better s5 or OPO?

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just wondering which one u like better s5 or OPO?
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OPO... my mind is always tempted to write OPPO... which kinda is true.
The build quality, included storage (64GB vs 16GB), software and even battery life are better for me.
With that much space, not having an SD Card is not a problem to me.
Camera seems to be good, maybe not as good as the S5 in daylight but very good on it's own.
My S5 even when having top of the line specs (38k+ in Antutu) lagged thanks to Touchwiz. Never again.

^^ what he said. I've had galaxy devices since they were released. Believe me cm is MUCH better. Take some time to immerse yourself in the settings - it will really amaze you how much faster cm is.
Cm is actually one of the plainer aosp ROMs - check out carbon or liquid smooth - tweaktastic!

But... Touchwiz is the Satan of ROMs! Touchwiz is so slow and filled with useless blaotware from Samsung. I'd rather use Sense 6.

drakester09 said:
But Touchwiz is literally Hitler!
J/K if you like the aesthetic then there are some excellent look-alike CM11 themes by thomasaffca.
If you want some of the extra features you'll need to look towards something like Mahdi which has hover plus a lot of other stuff.
Give a chance to stock in this device. Most likely you won't need 99% of the stuff Touchwiz conveniently shoves in your face and you will feel a device at least as twice as fast.
I'm coming from the S5...
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I think you may want to look up the definition of the word literally.

BeerBrewer said:
Hi I am so much addicted to Samsung touchwiz. As a hardware side one plus one is great but never used CM based rom.and I am not sure If I will be able to handle CM rom. Any input guldies ? Its just my personal opinion I am not trying to say CM is bad but I never used it though.I am thinking of buying one .
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Be sure you underclock the CPU and set the governor to conservative, so you can experience lag [emoji57]
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sublimaze said:
Be sure you underclock the CPU and set the governor to conservative, so you can experience lag [emoji57]
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Its too high level talk for me . Pass

I like touchwhiz because of S health.
I really want to buy a OPO but i use S health every day and i will miss it so hard.
Never found a decent alternative (accuracy or battery usage)

I find touchwiz to have better interface than native opo. What I specifically miss on the opo is
1) having the home screens wrap around.
2) let me sort my total list of applications my way.
3) unread count on sms/mms.
4) easy creation of home screens to the left.
I haven't noticed touchwiz to be slow on my S2.

galmok said:
I find touchwiz to have better interface than native opo. What I specifically miss on the opo is
1) having the home screens wrap around.
2) let me sort my total list of applications my way.
3) unread count on sms/mms.
4) easy creation of home screens to the left.
I haven't noticed touchwiz to be slow on my S2.
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You can solve your wishes very easily.
1. Use a different launcher.
2. Use a different launcher.
3. Use a different launcher.
4. Use a different launcher.
I'll take CM over a laggy and bloaty Crapwiz any day.
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timmaaa said:
You can solve your wishes very easily.
1. Use a different launcher.
2. Use a different launcher.
3. Use a different launcher.
4. Use a different launcher.
I'll take CM over a laggy and bloaty Crapwiz any day.
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Pretty much a non-answer.

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Pretty much a non-answer.
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How is that a non answer? You can get your One to do every single one of those things by using a launcher like Apex or Nova. Are you not reading or something??
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[Q] What are the roms that don't look like stock

I'm searching for roms that don't look like stock android, I love stock android look but everything gets boring by time, I tried lots of themes but I want the whole OS to be different, I tried miui, its nice but it's still not what I'm looking for, please don't tell me buy a Samsung or HTC phone because I love my nexus 5 and I know that I will eventually return to stock or CM or slim or whatever, I just want to change how my phone looks for sometime, I found nice roms Nexusense, but it has some major bugs like sound not working at all and the bugs will probably never get fixed. So if you know any rom please tell me

Mazen Amr said:
I'm searching for roms that don't look like stock android, I love stock android look but everything gets boring by time, I tried lots of themes but I want the whole OS to be different, I tried miui, its nice but it's still not what I'm looking for, please don't tell me buy a Samsung or HTC phone because I love my nexus 5 and I know that I will eventually return to stock or CM or slim or whatever, I just want to change how my phone looks for sometime, I found nice roms Nexusense, but it has some major bugs like sound not working at all and the bugs will probably never get fixed. So if you know any rom please tell me
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nope. we, nexus 5 users, are mostly all fans of aosp, so thats what you will see 99% of the time.

Mazen Amr said:
I'm searching for roms that don't look like stock android, I love stock android look but everything gets boring by time, I tried lots of themes but I want the whole OS to be different, I tried miui, its nice but it's still not what I'm looking for, please don't tell me buy a Samsung or HTC phone because I love my nexus 5 and I know that I will eventually return to stock or CM or slim or whatever, I just want to change how my phone looks for sometime, I found nice roms Nexusense, but it has some major bugs like sound not working at all and the bugs will probably never get fixed. So if you know any rom please tell me
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Install a theme, you can find themes of skins of other OEMS.
Otherwise this is not the phone for you

Xposed can change the appearance .
Theme Engine in some roms can.
And launchers can. Lots of launchers now can give you a totally different experience . Smart Launcher for one.....windows launchers....etc....there's many.

Give MIUI a try
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Give MIUI a try
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He said he already tried MIUI.
Try FirefoxOS, Sailfish OS... We have a lot of choices thanks to the Nexus 5.
Besides Xposed, mods,... I can also start to create your own stuff.