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Moto germany , confirmed the delay in update scheme due to some last minute issues.
http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_delays_nougat_update_in_germany-news-23150.php
Very disappointed as the phone is almost two years old but no major update was done. Google may release Android 8.0 by May.
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Very disappointed as the phone is almost two years old but no major update was done. Google may release Android 8.0 by May.
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5.1.1 to 6.0 wasn't a major update? I am not thrilled with the delay, but let's not forget how quickly the MXPE received Marshmallow. The Z line is their primary focus now, that's how it goes!
cool, only 3 months more to get already outdated 7.0 thanks lenovo
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cool, only 3 months more to get already outdated 7.0 thanks lenovo
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Yeah I know I love this phone but moving on to the OPO 3T because of this reason
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due to some last minute issues. marketing.
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Fixed that for you.
So typical for moto. They're going to wait for us to do all the hardwork for them, and then roll out an update right around the time that its no longer needed by us.
As long as lineage keeps updating the phone I will use it until the phone dies but this will definitely be my last Moto phone.
Everyone is all pissed but Google just ended support at 2 years sharp on the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9. The manufacturers are still in a 2 year support paradigm related to contracts.
This is largely why I went to AICP with 7.1.1 and on-time monthly Android security updates. Plus, a lot more functionality and customization. The same was true with LiquidSmooth when Samsung stopped supporting the Galaxy S3 before. Every device ceases to be supported at some point. That's why we hang out here and work together to extend the life of our favorite hardware. I, too, and disappointed that Lenovo dropped meaningful support for the Pure 2015 last year, but AICP has gotten me over the sting.
I am betting Google's announcement about killing the Google now launcher factors into this. OEMs now have to build their own launcher
We could get 7.1.2 directly also... We never know what's gonna happen anyways but now I'm pissed off by this and I'm surely going to buy nokia phone next time... This is such a disgrace...
I would like to use linageos but rom without fully working moto display is not for me, I bought this phone for this function and stereo speakers. Im ok with android 6, I dont feel loosing some functionality.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
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I would like to use linageos but rom without fully working moto display is not for me, I bought this phone for this function and stereo speakers. Im ok with android 6, I dont feel loosing some functionality.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
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what is not working in lineage? what do you mean "not fully working moto display"?
I am at same situation, would like to use Lineage instead of orig. rom. thx
IMO the guy who has regularly said he doesn't think we'll ever get Nougat will be vindicated. The MXPE has been a commercial failure and retailers regularly have it on fire sale for $250 or less - they can't get rid of them. There's almost no chance Lenovo will go out of their way to continue spending man hours on the update this spring if they're "having problems" (more likely, they never started working on an update to begin with).
Purchasing this phone is certainly one of my bigger electronics regrets. If I could go back in time, I'd pony up the extra $100 for a 6P, no question. Now the price differential between a used MXPE and 6P is even bigger than that, which says a lot.
Commercial failure perhaps but that is Lenovo's fault. They incorrectly thought that the Moto name meant they had no need to advertise.
Won't wait. Will buy Mate 9
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IMO the guy who has regularly said he doesn't think we'll ever get Nougat will be vindicated. The MXPE has been a commercial failure and retailers regularly have it on fire sale for $250 or less - they can't get rid of them. There's almost no chance Lenovo will go out of their way to continue spending man hours on the update this spring if they're "having problems" (more likely, they never started working on an update to begin with).
Purchasing this phone is certainly one of my bigger electronics regrets. If I could go back in time, I'd pony up the extra $100 for a 6P, no question. Now the price differential between a used MXPE and 6P is even bigger than that, which says a lot.
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It's always so interesting to see different peoples opinions.
I'm bought the 6P when it came out. It was a great phone, notice I said was. If you hit the XDA forums you will see loads of; bootloop of death, battery issues. It seems the battery is wearing prematurely and causing non repairable failures. This is the majority opinion of the reason for the failure, but again is only opinion. I kept my phone pristine and a few weeks ago got the dreaded BLOD. Huawei did send me a refurbished phone back; it was slightly dinged, but I sent them a 32gb and they sent me a 128gb back. They didn't offer a loaner, so I picked up a MXPE and have to say I like it so much when I got my 6P back and I've not bothered to do much with it.
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It's always so interesting to see different peoples opinions.
I'm bought the 6P when it came out. It was a great phone, notice I said was. If you hit the XDA forums you will see loads of; bootloop of death, battery issues. It seems the battery is wearing prematurely and causing non repairable failures. This is the majority opinion of the reason for the failure, but again is only opinion. I kept my phone pristine and a few weeks ago got the dreaded BLOD. Huawei did send me a refurbished phone back; it was slightly dinged, but I sent them a 32gb and they sent me a 128gb back. They didn't offer a loaner, so I picked up a MXPE and have to say I like it so much when I got my 6P back and I've not bothered to do much with it.
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Well, this may be a case of "the grass is always greener" for me. I wasn't aware of widespread 6P issues, but a bit of research indicates they've sprung up over the past few months.
On paper, the 6P is a slightly faster version of the MXPE (plus fingerprint sensor) that still gets regular updates, whereas the MXPE was more or less abandoned in the software department within 6 months of release. The microSD slot was a big factor that swayed me at the time of purchase, but if I'd known how quickly support would be abandoned vs. 2+ years of continuous updates (even monthly security patches) on the 6P, it wouldn't have been enough.
Of course, if you end up with a bricked paperweight 6P, superior software support isn't going to do you much good. Sorry to hear about your experience.
I will add this: the icing on the cake with Lenovo's non-support is that they void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader and trying to stay up-to-date using custom ROMs. Given that I'm already on my second (RMA) MXPE, I don't trust the hardware enough to lose the warranty, so I'm stuck on Marshmallow forever most likely.
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Well, this may be a case of "the grass is always greener" for me. I wasn't aware of widespread 6P issues, but a bit of research indicates they've sprung up over the past few months.
On paper, the 6P is a slightly faster version of the MXPE (plus fingerprint sensor) that still gets regular updates, whereas the MXPE was more or less abandoned in the software department within 6 months of release. The microSD slot was a big factor that swayed me at the time of purchase, but if I'd known how quickly support would be abandoned vs. 2+ years of continuous updates (even monthly security patches) on the 6P, it wouldn't have been enough.
Of course, if you end up with a bricked paperweight 6P, superior software support isn't going to do you much good. Sorry to hear about your experience.
I will add this: the icing on the cake with Lenovo's non-support is that they void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader and trying to stay up-to-date using custom ROMs. Given that I'm already on my second (RMA) MXPE, I don't trust the hardware enough to lose the warranty, so I'm stuck on Marshmallow forever most likely.
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Thanks for the well stated response.
I've not been a fan of Lenovo since the Superfish malware and the rest of the crap they install became public knowledge. But I kind of hoped they would of left Motorola somewhat autonomous but I see they did not. The lack of promised updates is inexcusable, it's a lie plain and simple. The whole bootloader thing, while I personally think is wrong, its my damn phone let me do what I want, at least they tell you up front and don't make you guess.
While not nearly as egregious the fact Google discontinued the whole Nexus line and has Pixel exclusive is somewhat annoying. I can almost understand it from a business standpoint, but you could of at least threw the Nexus crowd a crumb and kept say the unlimited photo thing as a Pixel exclusive and give us the Pixel experience. Honestly, the last rom I was running was 100% N and Pixel modded and I'm OK with MM and the Moto voice is pretty good. I did read rumor of N in May for the MXPE, so I hope thats true.
Some guy is on his 5th rma for his 6P! I'm not sure if he is throwing them out the window, but that's pretty sad.
I suppose bottom line is you can't go wrong with either, they both have pros and cons.
I bought this phone 15 months ago for 4 main reasons :
Larger secreen than my previous phone
stereo front-facing speakers
design
low price
During that time it hasn't given me any problems and has done everything I wanted from it.
So, OK, it hasn't got the very latest Android "upgrade", but if I was really that bothered I'd unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM. (I'm out of warranty anyway). But why? The phone works perfectly fine.
To put this into context, I bought a £35,000 car last September. The 2017 models will now get Apple Carplay & Android Auto - but this will not be retro rolled out to my car.
And you guys are pissed off at no updates for a $300 smartphone?
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
Yes still worth buying. Honor /Huawei have a sale on the Honor 8 if the phone fits your needs go for it.. It's a great device.. Just my 2 cents worth..
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
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Display in sunlight and battery, camera , average performance very good, things that i dont recommend this device to other probably low in loud speaker quality.
Rumor: There's going to be a new version announced/released in the next two to three months at an event in Taipei. I'd guess it'll have a Kirin 960 which has a much nicer GPU.
Huawei has been VERY bad with updates. I was using the B360 release until yesterday or the day before when B385 was pushed to me via OTA. A number of posters still haven't received that update and they're none too happy about it. B360 came out at the end of December 2016 and B385 just came out a week into May which is an unacceptably long time to be running months out of date security.
B385 may have introduced battery life problems I wasn't experiencing, but which others have been on B360. I have only been using it a day or two though, so it's hard for me to say for sure as of yet as my phone has spent most of its time on my PC or next to my bed charging.
Hopefully, the people who are still on B360 get B385 soon, hopefully the worse battery on my phone is just my imagination, and we'll get a timely update next month, but those things are all yet to be seen. If Huawei gets the update out to other Honor 8 owners within the next week, gets the May security update out in early June, and starts keeping up to date, then I'll be happy with the phone, but that remains to be seen.
It is a great phone, but if you buy one you may be stuck using 5 month out of date software indefinitely, and even if you get B385 right away we don't know that the next update will be out in a month. It could be not until November or never to get the update after it. Combine that with that a new version of the phone will probably be announced and available in a couple months and I'd say to wait. We don't know if or when Android O is coming to the Honor 8. As much as I like this phone I can't recommend buying it at the current time.
We still aren't getting any communication from Huawei/Honor as to what to expect as far as future updates. And that's really troubling.
I would suggest waiting for this years release which I would expect to be out soon or looking at the One Plus 3T. One Plus is rumored to be coming out with the One Plus 5 sometime soon too, so right now is not really a great time to be buying a phone if you can wait.
Thanks all for replying. Honor seems to be a big disappointment, it's good but something form Huawei is always lacking...
I can wait hoping that my phone survives until the summer one plus 3t is a bit too expensive, I'm still thinking of saving some money and go for Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2, even if I know Honor feels more like a "top phone".
If anyone will give some other opinion it will be so much appreciated.
Well, just to say my opinion
Fisrt of all, I had a lots of smartphones
Just the last 20 months I had more then 5 phones changed
The thing is, I am reading on xda for every phone the same like I wont buy LG or Sony or Samsung ever again.. its allways the same talk..
Like allways people searched for the best thing for the money and then got disapointed by something and than started like I wont buy LG anymore
Next thing thay do is buying something else.. the best for the money and again talk bad about it..
WHY??
Well, guys you must realize that the one usually are disapointed were looking for the perfect one for the money
Well, there is not evan one phone on the market wich is PERFECT FOR THE MONEY
Couse it always will be short on something
Like locked bootloader and no xda support or like no support from the manufacturer but then a bit of xda support or the build qualitie maybee good but then it is maybe fingerprint magnet..
Just be aware of that you will never get all for the money.. it is and will be allways like that..
So when you want to buy any phone be ready to be satisfide with it as is.. dont be wanting all of it for the money.. no phone has it
Soo, if you want now to consider things and this Honor 8 be prepared to like it in a way that allmost everything is ok.. allmost.. like awesome look.. premium feel but easy to scretch or be a fingerprint magnet.. able to unlock the bootloader and root and install twrp.. great battery like 9hours of SoT on B381.. great speed.. allmost perfect..BUT for now not much of custom rom support wich can change with getting the source code.. soo the best is yet to come
Soo, its almost perfect.. but dont look for perfect
You will never find it
Not evan iPhone is perfect
Look for something you will like it as is
And after like 20 smatphones I had this one is the best of it
In real world beating phones like double the priceed like pixel.. not benchmark numbers but real time speed of opening apps or things like that
Look on you tube real time speed and performance
You just can not go wrong with this phone for that money
Hope you will think about my advice
Not be looking for the best on the market
Evan samsung s8+ users are after one week of use complaining about things couse they also thought for that money s8 would be the best.. and that got dissapointed with it too..
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypUksJ647c
Going back to the original question, it's a fantastic phone but you can try to get it for less than you mentioned. Don't know where you live but in the UK every now and then the price gets really good. The other day one of the supermarket chains was selling them for £200 and for that kind of money it's a no-brainer.
Bii @sysak
Thanks for the you tube link
That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans.. ?
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Bii @sysak
Thanks for the you tube link
That is what I try to say about this phone and real time performans..
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Depends on what you value.
It's a "value" phone so it sits on a sweet spot. If you value bug correction and updates, I would say definitely no. If you want a nice phone and are a basic user, then yes, get it.
Please just don't go on any trade-in program with Honor/Huawei. My Honor7 had zero scratches (always tempered glass and protective case) and after receiving my phone on their side, they lowered £10 on the evaluation. i rejected it in the 20th March. I haven't received my phone back yet. :crying:
The brand cares about new customers, not so much about existing ones (it's my 2nd Honor). Hence why the budget goes to advertisement and not to supporting developing community or regular updates/fixes.
Hii @zinko_pt
Thanks for the answer
And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8
Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates
But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..
So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
francesco_mnz said:
Hi everyone,
My Xperia Z3 which I love is unfortunately dying and I need to replace it.
I'm buying either Honor 8 or Redmi Note 4 (if I decide to save some money - and also I like the big screen).
So, my question is: is Honor 8 still worth buying now around 320-330€? Is it worth double the price of the Note 4? I know it has no custom rom support, but:
-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
If the answer of all these questions is meh, I'll go with Redmi Note 4.
Thanks to everyone who will reply!
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I just upgraded from the Z3 compact, and although the large format is hard to handle with one hand, mostly everything else about the phone is a huge step up from the Z3 series. The Honor's camera is very sharp with greater detail than the Z3 and at nearly half the price, it's hard to beat for the money. Like any phone in this price range, it's not perfect, but it's flaws are outweighed by it's value.
It doesn't hold charge while sleeping the way Sony does, but it sips battery while in use like a tiny bird. I easily get 6-7hrs of screen on time where I couldn't get more than 4 with the Z3C.
The single speaker is louder than the dual Sony speakers but won't win any awards for sound quality.
And though it has its quirks, EMUI is way more customizable than Sony ever could be, and I'm not talking about silly themes.
Finally, nothing beats this fingerprint reader.
Go for it! The Honor 9 might be better, but there's always something new coming out. If you really want to upgrade again, sell the Honor 8.
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-will it get Android O?
-how's the display in sunlight?
-how's the battery?
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Honor 6 was released with android 4 and later updated to 5.x and then to 6.0.x, if we are lucky, probably honor 8 will get O as well.
Display and battery are good.
Thanks to everyone. I don't know why, but the Honor 8 price is rising instead of dropping:/ a couple of months ago I could get it for more or less 320€, now it's like 345€:/
I'm in a very similar situation since I got my Honor 8 to replace a dying Sony Z2.
I really liked my Z2, and even being as old as it was, there is no phone out there that I would have voluntarily given up my Z2 for.
That said, I am happy with my H8, and I am not looking back.
In their times, the Z2 and Z3 were both high-end phones. I would call the H8 a mid-range phone.
If you are willing to spend upwards of US$500, then there are better phones out there -- Sony XZ, Huawei P9 Pro... etc.
Like a previous post said, the H8 does not have stereo speakers, but the sound from the single speaker at the bottom is better than my Z2 was. The Z2 had a specific problem with the speaker phone being low... I can now actually use my speaker phone.
The H8 also lacks the water proof feature of the high-end Sony's. While I never immersed my Z2, it seemed to die of something that could have been moisture intrusion.
Point is that I really do not miss either of those features in daily use.
Sony was excellent with updates. Only a Nexus device (or Pixel, or whatever) could have been better. I am hoping that Huawei supports this phone for a while, but I would have to say that IMHO expecting them to be as good as Sony was in this respect is not a reasonable expectation. Notice also that I said ..."as good as Sony was". Sony seems to be shrinking in the market, so going forward, they may not be as good as they were.
Camera: My Sony would shoot 4K video --- for about 30 seconds before it would either produce an file that ate all available storage, or it would over heat. I never used it. For anything other than comparing specs (anything practical) I think I can actually do more cool/impressive photography with the H8.
Speed: I have no speed complaints at all with the H8. I've never noticed a lag or anything happening at a speed that would even begin to cause frustration. Processor speed and cost caused the H8 to easily win out for me over the XZ.
Another thing that should not be ignored is Huawei's reputation for building better radios. With both this phone and an old Honor 2, I notice better signal (real, and number of bars) in fringe areas.
Lastly, the feel of the H8 must be mentioned. The feel/build quality/whatever you want to call it is better than any other phone in it's price class.
I agree with the other poster that said (as you mention -- especially in May of 2017) don't over pay for it. Today it should be viewed strictly as a mid-range daily use phone. Decide which range you are in and act/pay accordingly.
Sony have a great reputation for SW update. I've witness this. Z3C phone and tablet had update until 6.0.1, from a SD801. The only reason there is no oficial Nougat update is because Google doesn't want it to happen. But Z3C was beta for Nougat. I can't even remember how hold is my tablet but runs fantastic, zero bugs.
Now moving on to Huawei/Honor, Emui5.1 is coming out on new devices, not available on old.
P9 flagship is still Emui5. Not even mentioning 7.1.1 or latest security updates. When and if they're implemented, they're already outdated.
Honor7 got 1 OS version update and no Nougat. Not even the promised 2 year support.
If we take examples from other brands (OnePlus is also under fire due to false promises about software updates) software updates might be, if not are actually be, the number one thing users get disappointed.
There's definitely a trend amongst some manufacturers to drop support too soon for devices. Apple, very much bashed, is an example of OS support, which is sad.
I heard Honor US has promised to provide this region with two years of updated. Even if they don't, root.
Aside from being able to have exploits run that require root and breaking whatever OTAs we get It's unclear what the point of rooting would be on the Honor 8. There isn't much you can do unless I'm missing something.
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Recommend you consider the P10 lite
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P10 lite instead of Honor 8?
P10 lite:
1. Micro USB
2. No IR
3. Kirin 658< Kirin 950
4. DDR3 RAM
5. Mali T830MP2 (40.8 GFlops)
Honor 8:
1. USB- C
2. IR blaster
3. Kirin 950> Kirin 658
4. DDR4 RAM for 4Gb version
5. Mali T840MP2 (122.4GFlops)
6. Fast battery charging
If you are concerned about constant update flagship phone are your best bet. Honor 8 is in a bad position because of it is a sub brand and has a smaller team you won't get update as often. However it is still a flagship of honor brand thus might qualify for 2 yr support. If you can buy it at the price of midrange phone like p10lite go ahead coz it's a capable phone you won't feel like it's a cheap phone performance wise come android O.
brljak83 said:
Hii @zinko_pt
Thanks for the answer
And I must say I had evan phones wich were missing evan what we have right now with this honor 8
Couse this phone has some software support but its slow like for the ota updates
But had some cheaper phones from like LG wich were stuck at what came out of the box and that was it.. but then I had some phones like Samsung A5 2016 wich are the same price but are not evan close to this phone with its premium build and better support and for the same price evan better benchmarks.. so that is also for A5 2017 where you pay just the overpriced Samsung name..
So yes, it indeed is in some kind of price to value sweet spot..and I would recommend it evan now after one year.. so evan this year of 2017 it is a good phone to buy... Like an flagship for the midrange class
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It all comes down to promises: if a brand makes a promise to support a device for 2 years and release the source code, and then disregard them, it makes untrustworthy. Simple.
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Huawei have allready implemented features from 7.1.1 they dont need this update (except security patch). P8lite rollout with EMUI 4.0 and after some time was updated to EMUI
4.1. Its true Honor and users was confused with Nougat updates, but now start (slowly) pushing realy good updates... In my opinion, one time push to our devices EMUI 5.1 and maybe Android O...
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That "except" is the tricky part isn't it? It's security, something with you should roll your dices and see how it goes. We can discuss features but not so security. And Huawei/Honor is always way behind schedule to release security patches. Just not acceptable.
Anybody like me waiting for the Oneplus 7 to update?
Saw the 7 Pro in a shop today and it looks nice enough but the curved screen edges just waiting for damage. Oh and the selfie cam, if that retracts fully in time when dropped I will be well surprised.
The 7 Pro was right next to a Pixel 3xl and the screens looked very similar if I am honest for quality.
Anyway, wondering if anyone is waiting for the 7. No idea how OnePlus are going to market it now after pushing the 7 pro for so long.
Me too waiting for 7, not interested in Pro, at the price point they are advertising will gladly buy it
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If yiu have a OP6 stick with it, in my opinion both zre not worth trading.
I don't like the size and the pop-up cam on the OP7P and the OP7 (like the op6t) ugly and no notification led
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I don't like the size and the pop-up cam on the OP7P and the OP7 (like the op6t) ugly and no notification led
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And not headphone jack.
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Definitely not the pro with all the ghost touch issues most devices seem to have. The upgrade just feels to small from the 6 so I'm sitting this one out. Maybe next year, or I'll just swap brand entirely.
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Definitely not the pro with all the ghost touch issues most devices seem to have. The upgrade just feels to small from the 6 so I'm sitting this one out. Maybe next year, or I'll just swap brand entirely.
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Why would you want to swap brands? And which brand would you consider switching to? For me the op6 has been nothing but a positive experience. The op6 has everything I've ever wanted from a phone (besides the notch) but that's the only thing, and I can wait another year for an all screen phone no problem :good:
nighter ...
just wait fo K20... the OnePlus killer
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Why would you want to swap brands? And which brand would you consider switching to? For me the op6 has been nothing but a positive experience. The op6 has everything I've ever wanted from a phone (besides the notch) but that's the only thing, and I can wait another year for an all screen phone no problem :good:
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Will know when I swap, if I swap
Op6 is treating me well, on thing is customer support that bothers me. Seems they only care for those that buy it directly from them. Even tho if you buy it from a verified shop they really don't give a F.
A friend of mine had big issues with his motherboard, but had to go back and forth over 6 months. All they kept saying was reset the device with the tool they sent him. And so he did. Issues were still there (random reboots, sensors messed up so temperature readings was off..) I'm not sure how much 30 resets will help. Eventually the shop he got it from took care of it as a DOA (after 6 months lol)
Interesting times coming up. Baffled how they are going to market it.
"It's good but not as good as the Pro"???????
Blunts47 said:
Why would you want to swap brands? And which brand would you consider switching to? For me the op6 has been nothing but a positive experience. The op6 has everything I've ever wanted from a phone (besides the notch) but that's the only thing, and I can wait another year for an all screen phone no problem :good:
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I love the OP6. Im worried it will be the last good phone they will release. For me it depends on how much the continue on their new track of not giving the fans that made them what they are, what they ask for. And obviously if they lock anything down thats a deal breaker. And the bloat is really starting to creep in.
Asus Zenfone 6 all the way....
Seriosly thinking sell my OP6 and buy this one.....
Camera on OP (even 7Pro) is a joke.
It's really disappointing that they are no longer marketing to the people who built that brand, which are those looking for a good phone at a good value. They are getting a big head, like Google did when they killed the Nexus line and started selling the MUCH more expensive Pixel. Now they are coming back to making the "a" line, which is essentially a return to the Nexus model.
I really believe that OnePlus would be best off making the best phone that they can each year for $450-499 and a $550-599 "T" model .
I left the Nexus line for OnePlus and was going to leave OnePlus as well after the 5T until the OP6 went on Flash Sale on GearBest for 379.
However, perhaps that's just how I need to buy them from now on. I will wait until the next model comes out and wait for the previous model to go on sale.
So I think I will wait 6 months for when the new model is released around Christmas time and buy the OP7/7Pro.
I have been tempted to get the Pixel 3A XL but the OP6 is still a better device.
Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
I switched from MI 9t to P20 pro and I really regret it
dladz said:
Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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bye bye my friend ...also bad company and i will see you in telegram group for p20 pro
maahmd said:
bye bye my friend ...also bad company and i will see you in telegram group for p20 pro
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Course mate no worries.
achour7 said:
I switched from MI 9t to P20 pro and I really regret it
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Ohhh I feel you, that's like me swapping out my OnePlus 5 for the Pro. I got the phone and tried why I got it (camera) then after the novelty of that wore off and development on XDA died, I realised that it is a dog turd.
So much potential, literally killed with several bad decisions.
I wouldn't change my P20 Pro for the world (well perhaps for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro). Its easily the best phone I've ever owned. I honestly cannot fault it for anything other than the lack of development.
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Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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How is battery life of OP8 Pro compared with the P20 Pro? You get almost same SOT?
And for the camera quality?
mickrick said:
I wouldn't change my P20 Pro for the world (well perhaps for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro). Its easily the best phone I've ever owned. I honestly cannot fault it for anything other than the lack of development.
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Splintered variants
Poor GPU
Poor CPU
Poor overall performance
Bloated software
Awful customer service
Woeful development
Disgusting software updates.
Do I need to go on?
Sorry mate, each to their own but honestly, I dropped the ball when I got a Huawei, against my better judgement, I'm much happier now that I have the performance I need and the freedom that android deserves.
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How is battery life of OP8 Pro compared with the P20 Pro? You get almost same SOT?
And for the camera quality?
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Well it's only day one but so far it's been pretty good.
I managed to get 14 hours 45 minutes on my OnePlus 5, usually averaged around 10 hours.
My average on the P20 Pro was a little less at about 7-9 hours
Soon as I get a ballpark I'll respond.
So far it's looking good, I think a minimum of 7, better in mind I've got 120hz on constantly.
Camera is phenomenal and that's compared to the P20 Pro. It's a huge leap forward, 4k 60fps is brilliant, the OIS stability is vastly improved and the super macro I love. I'm yet to find a fault with the phone besides one thing which I'm getting used to and that's the waterfall screen, I sometimes touch it by accident but I think that's habit of having edges on my Huawei.
Free wireless bullets 2 came with the phone and a case in the box which will do for now.
12GB RAM and 256GB storage, just a crazy phone mate.
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Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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I absolutely understand you, i will switch over time too. I'm not happy with the Huawei phone.
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I absolutely understand you, i will switch over time too. I'm not happy with the Huawei phone.
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Weird thing about me with huawei, I usually get 1-2 phones each year, this time is the first time I've stuck it out with one phone for two years.
So yea I was really say the end of my tether.
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Weird thing about me with huawei, I usually get 1-2 phones each year, this time is the first time I've stuck it out with one phone for two years.
So yea I was really say the end of my tether .
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it lasted for me too. so far a phone has been on for max half a year.
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it lasted for me too. so far a phone has been on for max half a year.
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My wife still has hers and she loves it. Much simpler needs though.
She has had an envious look at my OnePlus though and is now I'm guessing feeling like hers is in need of a refresh
Root already achieved btw and twrp. Not complete but it's very early. I think it'll be hugely popular, going to try to get some of my old Devs to jump in.
People started reporting the green screen problem in low brightness with OP8 Pro. Did you experience anything like this?
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People started reporting the green screen problem in low brightness with OP8 Pro. Did you experience anything like this?
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Nope, also heard something similar on every single thread is every single phone one ever owned. You need to be extremely unlucky for this to happen to you. On any of the aforementioned phones. (list in my sig)
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Splintered variants
Poor GPU
Poor CPU
Poor overall performance
Bloated software
Awful customer service
Woeful development
Disgusting software updates.
Do I need to go on?
Sorry mate, each to their own but honestly, I dropped the ball when I got a Huawei, against my better judgement, I'm much happier now that I have the performance I need and the freedom that android deserves.
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I'm sorry, but I don't see all of this. My phone runs just fine. I don't find the software bloated. I've never had to use customer service. I don't see any perceptible lack of performance. Sure, software updates are slow to arrive, but this is the same with the vast majority of manufacturers. And how many of them still support devices over 2 years old?
As I previously said, the lack of development, due mainly to Huawei's intransigence over bootloader unlocking, is the only real issue I have with it.
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I'm sorry, but I don't see all of this. My phone runs just fine. I don't find the software bloated. I've never had to use customer service. I don't see any perceptible lack of performance. Sure, software updates are slow to arrive, but this is the same with the vast majority of manufacturers. And how many of them still support devices over 2 years old?
As I previously said, the lack of development, due mainly to Huawei's intransigence over bootloader unlocking, is the only real issue I have with it.
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Lol I didn't want to do this (get pulled into a silly back and forth) especially seeing as what I said is correct.
Bloat:
The ROM download is 4.7GB in size? In what way is that not bloated dude? What the hell Is it?
Customer service:
OnePlus, called to RMA, phone sent and back in 3 days, for free, I asked Huawei for MY information, all correspondence, GDPR , this is my information, that was seven months ago, I'm still waiting, they won't send me anything.
Performance?:
Oh dear where to start, install lawn chair launcher, add the Google feed (on the left) it lags when opening it, a OnePlus 5 doesn't lag when you do that? A OnePlus 3, 2 maybe even a 1!!
Dolphin emulator lags, unplayable in most instances, psp, modern combat, normal games like cod, or just 3D games in general have sub standard performance compared to any of the phones out at the same time as the Pro, unless it's a Huawei / honor / Samsung (EU) device, the problem is mainly the awful Mali but the CPU isn't great either, plus it heats up a lot too.
Software updates:
OnePlus - one variation
Huawei - I can even answer this, how many different variants and regions are there for Huawei? L09 L29 c432 c783 A100 ?? I have no idea, it's just a stupid avoidable mess, how long have people been waiting for Android 10? How many people managed to get the beta? Lol it's shocking, OHHH and yes some of the updates relock the damn bootloader, some of the services (funky) completely broke the ability to unlock the bootloader? It's a disgusting, avoidable sh*tshow.
Let me tell you something about software updates, a phone with a healthy after market development community will not need updates after two years, they will continue to get tweaked, optimized, newer modded ROMs released, look at the HD2, I think it's still being developed now. Huawei will never have that, ever, or is a dead platform on XDA.
Lastly :
I'm not bashing your here, I know people who bought this device did so in good faith, I'm one of them, and bitterness is rife as well as a bias for your device but you can't stand by what you said pal, it's just BS, get any Snapdragon device and you'll see what I mean. My only hope for the Huawei community is that they never buy another Huawei ever again, Huawei teamed up with XDA and became popular, created a following and then just pulled the rug out from everyone's feet. I hope they go down the route HTC did, the former surely deserve it.
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Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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I couldn't afford the 8 Pro so actually went for a reduced 7T. Saved me a few hundred and still way better than the 20 Pro experience.
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I couldn't afford the 8 Pro so actually went for a reduced 7T. Saved me a few hundred and still way better than the 20 Pro experience.
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Honestly, if the 8 didn't come to carriers in the UK I was thinking of doing the same mate. Totally get your choice.
Lot of similarities and you've got that high refresh rate too.
With you on the sh*t show that has been Huawei. Remember the days when you could actually unlock the bootloader and we clung on to some hope that there'd be light at the end of the tunnel but they quickly stopped that. I had to send my back for a repair after it hard bricked and they sent it back bootloader locked
I couldn't warrant the extra £200 for the OP8 Pro so got the standard OP8. I'm seeing that Pro forum is already more active with some ROM's that I hope will quickly filter down to its little brother and the hardware is not much different.
So yeah, 2 years of the P20 done & dusted, phone sold, only regret I have is putting up with it for so long.
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1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed?
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem?
3. Battery performance
4. Any new feature/bug
5. Any other business
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0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in?
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed?
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem?
3. Battery performance
4. Any new feature/bug
5. Any other business
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1. Notification problem not fixed as far as I can tell.
2. Too early to tell as I just installed it.
3. Too early to tell
4. Some bloatware, Hot Apps and Hot Games. Still looking for anything else.
5. Will update my experience in the next few days.
This is a real shame and I'm going to have to start looking for another phone since this may be the last update we receive. Why they wouldn't address the notification problem is baffling.
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1. Notification problem not fixed as far as I can tell.
2. Too early to tell as I just installed it.
3. Too early to tell
4. Some bloatware, Hot Apps and Hot Games. Still looking for anything else.
5. Will update my experience in the next few days.
This is a real shame and I'm going to have to start looking for another phone since this may be the last update we receive. Why they wouldn't address the notification problem is baffling.
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It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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Agreed in hardware vivo nex is one of the best especially the coolest s845 among all phones i've tried. Its infamous software is undoubtly agreed by the majority in this forum.
BTW: The worst software maintenance I have ever had is ASUS. Just a quick tip for those concerning software update quality.
Number 8 said:
It really is time to get the new phone. I'm looking at note10+ atm. Vivo Nex is such a beast, still today, but the software, locked bootloader and slow updates are really getting on my nerves for quite some time. Such a shame, imagine nex with other ROMs...
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I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
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Agreed in hardware vivo nex is one of the best especially the coolest s845 among all phones i've tried. Its infamous software is undoubtly agreed by the majority in this forum.
BTW: The worst software maintenance I have ever had is ASUS. Just a quick tip for those concerning software update quality.
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It's funny you say that because I'll probably be getting the Zenfone 7 Pro. I had a Zenfone 2 and had zero issues with it. The Zenfone 7 meets all my requirements especially the full screen. But in addition a huge battery, NFC, all the 5G bands and it's US/Taiwanese so a lot more secure than the Chinese phones I've been using exclusively for the past 7 years.
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I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
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I can't stand the punch hole fad, that is one of the reasons I love my NEX. Here where I live note10+ is around 700-800$ and the newest note20 ultra is around 1300$ which is crazy to pay for a phone. And it's not worth it anyway, it's almost the same as note10+. I just need a phone close to 7" display, no punch hole and 90hz+. Can't find any, closest is oneplus 7t pro, but it's basically the same as NEX.
Mate 20x 5g seems like a nice phone...
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I can't stand the punch hole fad, that is one of the reasons I love my NEX. Here where I live note10+ is around 700-800$ and the newest note20 ultra is around 1300$ which is crazy to pay for a phone. And it's not worth it anyway, it's almost the same as note10+. I just need a phone close to 7" display, no punch hole and 90hz+. Can't find any, closest is oneplus 7t pro, but it's basically the same as NEX.
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That's why I'm seriously considering the Zenfone 7. It's got everything I need including 90hz. I don't use or need wireless charging (especially with a 5000mah battery) or waterproofing. They've also committed to two years of updates which is good enough for me. One more thing (from when I had the old one) is a very active forum and good customer service unlike Vivo.
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I'm not willing to pay $1,300+ for a phone and I don't like punch holes etc, even though it would sync perfectly with my Tab S6.
It's funny you say that because I'll probably be getting the Zenfone 7 Pro. I had a Zenfone 2 and had zero issues with it. The Zenfone 7 meets all my requirements especially the full screen. But in addition a huge battery, NFC, all the 5G bands and it's US/Taiwanese so a lot more secure than the Chinese phones I've been using exclusively for the past 7 years.
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My experience is Padfone S, the most horrible things in the world. For hardware part, the screen dies (after 360 days of purchase) right before warranty ends (365 days). They should have timed better so that I need to change my phone after 366 days.
For software part,
The system is eating up all rams and getting unusable after android 5 updates. For other 2GB ram phones across the same period are able to at least keep 2 apps opened. Every single app need to be reloaded after switching between apps. They didn't even plan to release android 6 which they promised 2 years of software support until fury in the Taiwan forum and someone is going to sue the company. And you can guess the result, the android 6 software is also a piece of **** with countless bugs.
My iPhone 7 plus has been using for 4 years and still doing very well (smooth) in today's applications. If divides the price by the number of years it's performing, it is much cheaper than Padfone S which becomes unusable after 3 months of purchase.
F**k ASUS.
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My experience is Padfone S, the most horrible things in the world. For hardware part, the screen dies (after 360 days of purchase) right before warranty ends (365 days). They should have timed better so that I need to change my phone after 366 days.
For software part,
The system is eating up all rams and getting unusable after android 5 updates. For other 2GB ram phones across the same period are able to at least keep 2 apps opened. Every single app need to be reloaded after switching between apps. They didn't even plan to release android 6 which they promised 2 years of software support until fury in the Taiwan forum and someone is going to sue the company. And you can guess the result, the android 6 software is also a piece of **** with countless bugs.
My iPhone 7 plus has been using for 4 years and still doing very well (smooth) in today's applications. If divides the price by the number of years it's performing, it is much cheaper than Padfone S which becomes unusable after 3 months of purchase.
F**k ASUS.
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That's too bad. My girlfriend is still using my Padfone X (At&t) from 2014 on 4.4 Kitkat and it's not the greatest but it's still good for media. I also have a Google Nexus 2013 (by Asus) but the screen broke and I can't find one so it's retired now. Never had a problem with any of them or my Zenfone 2.
Most people rooted and changed the rom on the Padfone S and it performed very well I hear. If you love your iPhone so much then stick with it. Personally I could never use such a restrictive OS.
I notice my GPS google crash, cant use now..try to reinstall and nothing happend
Twotems said:
That's why I'm seriously considering the Zenfone 7. It's got everything I need including 90hz. I don't use or need wireless charging (especially with a 5000mah battery) or waterproofing. They've also committed to two years of updates which is good enough for me. One more thing (from when I had the old one) is a very active forum and good customer service unlike Vivo.
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I'd like to have edge display once again, the last time I got it few years ago on my s6 edge+... Got the update just now and it does not fix the whatsapp not showing on lockscreen, another s.hit update from VIVO...
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I'd like to have edge display once again, the last time I got it few years ago on my s6 edge+... Got the update just now and it does not fix the whatsapp not showing on lockscreen, another s.hit update from VIVO...
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WhatsApp shows on my lockscreen with no issues. My problem is delayed notifications which they didn't address.
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I notice my GPS google crash, cant use now..try to reinstall and nothing happend
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What's GPS Google?
Its okay now
Full recovery Update: http://in-sysuptxdl.vivoglobal.com/...8182309235b0187adcd5ad67d74dbc394d81fe947.zip
0. Have you received the OTA update / which region are you in? France but like Indian version (aka International)
1. Is the notification delayed problem fixed ? Not so, i don't have this issue
2. Do you experience a slow charging problem? Seems ok here
3. Battery performance Waiting for full cycle to understand but actually seems bad
4. Any new feature/bug An huge upgrade on camera can be nice, because Vivo can easily fight againt GCam for my opinion
5. Any other business Stay safe and protect your family, it's important