bye bye Huawei - Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.

I switched from MI 9t to P20 pro and I really regret it

dladz said:
Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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bye bye my friend ...also bad company and i will see you in telegram group for p20 pro

maahmd said:
bye bye my friend ...also bad company and i will see you in telegram group for p20 pro
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Course mate no worries.

achour7 said:
I switched from MI 9t to P20 pro and I really regret it
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Ohhh I feel you, that's like me swapping out my OnePlus 5 for the Pro. I got the phone and tried why I got it (camera) then after the novelty of that wore off and development on XDA died, I realised that it is a dog turd.
So much potential, literally killed with several bad decisions.

I wouldn't change my P20 Pro for the world (well perhaps for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro). Its easily the best phone I've ever owned. I honestly cannot fault it for anything other than the lack of development.

dladz said:
Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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How is battery life of OP8 Pro compared with the P20 Pro? You get almost same SOT?
And for the camera quality?

mickrick said:
I wouldn't change my P20 Pro for the world (well perhaps for the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro). Its easily the best phone I've ever owned. I honestly cannot fault it for anything other than the lack of development.
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Splintered variants
Poor GPU
Poor CPU
Poor overall performance
Bloated software
Awful customer service
Woeful development
Disgusting software updates.
Do I need to go on?
Sorry mate, each to their own but honestly, I dropped the ball when I got a Huawei, against my better judgement, I'm much happier now that I have the performance I need and the freedom that android deserves.

Albe95 said:
How is battery life of OP8 Pro compared with the P20 Pro? You get almost same SOT?
And for the camera quality?
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Well it's only day one but so far it's been pretty good.
I managed to get 14 hours 45 minutes on my OnePlus 5, usually averaged around 10 hours.
My average on the P20 Pro was a little less at about 7-9 hours
Soon as I get a ballpark I'll respond.
So far it's looking good, I think a minimum of 7, better in mind I've got 120hz on constantly.
Camera is phenomenal and that's compared to the P20 Pro. It's a huge leap forward, 4k 60fps is brilliant, the OIS stability is vastly improved and the super macro I love. I'm yet to find a fault with the phone besides one thing which I'm getting used to and that's the waterfall screen, I sometimes touch it by accident but I think that's habit of having edges on my Huawei.
Free wireless bullets 2 came with the phone and a case in the box which will do for now.
12GB RAM and 256GB storage, just a crazy phone mate.

dladz said:
Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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I absolutely understand you, i will switch over time too. I'm not happy with the Huawei phone.

spityu85hun said:
I absolutely understand you, i will switch over time too. I'm not happy with the Huawei phone.
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Weird thing about me with huawei, I usually get 1-2 phones each year, this time is the first time I've stuck it out with one phone for two years.
So yea I was really say the end of my tether.

dladz said:
Weird thing about me with huawei, I usually get 1-2 phones each year, this time is the first time I've stuck it out with one phone for two years.
So yea I was really say the end of my tether .
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it lasted for me too. so far a phone has been on for max half a year.

spityu85hun said:
it lasted for me too. so far a phone has been on for max half a year.
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My wife still has hers and she loves it. Much simpler needs though.
She has had an envious look at my OnePlus though and is now I'm guessing feeling like hers is in need of a refresh
Root already achieved btw and twrp. Not complete but it's very early. I think it'll be hugely popular, going to try to get some of my old Devs to jump in.

People started reporting the green screen problem in low brightness with OP8 Pro. Did you experience anything like this?

boradu said:
People started reporting the green screen problem in low brightness with OP8 Pro. Did you experience anything like this?
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Nope, also heard something similar on every single thread is every single phone one ever owned. You need to be extremely unlucky for this to happen to you. On any of the aforementioned phones. (list in my sig)

dladz said:
Splintered variants
Poor GPU
Poor CPU
Poor overall performance
Bloated software
Awful customer service
Woeful development
Disgusting software updates.
Do I need to go on?
Sorry mate, each to their own but honestly, I dropped the ball when I got a Huawei, against my better judgement, I'm much happier now that I have the performance I need and the freedom that android deserves.
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I'm sorry, but I don't see all of this. My phone runs just fine. I don't find the software bloated. I've never had to use customer service. I don't see any perceptible lack of performance. Sure, software updates are slow to arrive, but this is the same with the vast majority of manufacturers. And how many of them still support devices over 2 years old?
As I previously said, the lack of development, due mainly to Huawei's intransigence over bootloader unlocking, is the only real issue I have with it.

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I'm sorry, but I don't see all of this. My phone runs just fine. I don't find the software bloated. I've never had to use customer service. I don't see any perceptible lack of performance. Sure, software updates are slow to arrive, but this is the same with the vast majority of manufacturers. And how many of them still support devices over 2 years old?
As I previously said, the lack of development, due mainly to Huawei's intransigence over bootloader unlocking, is the only real issue I have with it.
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Lol I didn't want to do this (get pulled into a silly back and forth) especially seeing as what I said is correct.
Bloat:
The ROM download is 4.7GB in size? In what way is that not bloated dude? What the hell Is it?
Customer service:
OnePlus, called to RMA, phone sent and back in 3 days, for free, I asked Huawei for MY information, all correspondence, GDPR , this is my information, that was seven months ago, I'm still waiting, they won't send me anything.
Performance?:
Oh dear where to start, install lawn chair launcher, add the Google feed (on the left) it lags when opening it, a OnePlus 5 doesn't lag when you do that? A OnePlus 3, 2 maybe even a 1!!
Dolphin emulator lags, unplayable in most instances, psp, modern combat, normal games like cod, or just 3D games in general have sub standard performance compared to any of the phones out at the same time as the Pro, unless it's a Huawei / honor / Samsung (EU) device, the problem is mainly the awful Mali but the CPU isn't great either, plus it heats up a lot too.
Software updates:
OnePlus - one variation
Huawei - I can even answer this, how many different variants and regions are there for Huawei? L09 L29 c432 c783 A100 ?? I have no idea, it's just a stupid avoidable mess, how long have people been waiting for Android 10? How many people managed to get the beta? Lol it's shocking, OHHH and yes some of the updates relock the damn bootloader, some of the services (funky) completely broke the ability to unlock the bootloader? It's a disgusting, avoidable sh*tshow.
Let me tell you something about software updates, a phone with a healthy after market development community will not need updates after two years, they will continue to get tweaked, optimized, newer modded ROMs released, look at the HD2, I think it's still being developed now. Huawei will never have that, ever, or is a dead platform on XDA.
Lastly :
I'm not bashing your here, I know people who bought this device did so in good faith, I'm one of them, and bitterness is rife as well as a bias for your device but you can't stand by what you said pal, it's just BS, get any Snapdragon device and you'll see what I mean. My only hope for the Huawei community is that they never buy another Huawei ever again, Huawei teamed up with XDA and became popular, created a following and then just pulled the rug out from everyone's feet. I hope they go down the route HTC did, the former surely deserve it.

dladz said:
Got the OnePlus 8 Pro and coming from this turd of a device it is a refreshing change.
The smoothness and higher refresh rate is staggeringly superior.
Wish that Huawei would have left the bootloader alone, the p10 Pro was going places.
Now it's pretty much dead, shame.
Hopefully see some of you in the OnePlus 8 Pro forum, highly recommend the phone, is flawless.
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I couldn't afford the 8 Pro so actually went for a reduced 7T. Saved me a few hundred and still way better than the 20 Pro experience.

maddoguk said:
I couldn't afford the 8 Pro so actually went for a reduced 7T. Saved me a few hundred and still way better than the 20 Pro experience.
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Honestly, if the 8 didn't come to carriers in the UK I was thinking of doing the same mate. Totally get your choice.
Lot of similarities and you've got that high refresh rate too.

With you on the sh*t show that has been Huawei. Remember the days when you could actually unlock the bootloader and we clung on to some hope that there'd be light at the end of the tunnel but they quickly stopped that. I had to send my back for a repair after it hard bricked and they sent it back bootloader locked
I couldn't warrant the extra £200 for the OP8 Pro so got the standard OP8. I'm seeing that Pro forum is already more active with some ROM's that I hope will quickly filter down to its little brother and the hardware is not much different.
So yeah, 2 years of the P20 done & dusted, phone sold, only regret I have is putting up with it for so long.

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Honor 8 vs 250 dollar phones or less

I just sold my honor 8. I can buy another 8 at a discount or buy a new Moto g5, a used s6, a used S7(already bought an sold one for 250) or I can roll with my Moto g4. So should I roll with the honor 8 again? How you guys feel?
brownd7380 said:
I just sold my honor 8. I can buy another 8 at a discount or buy a new Moto g5, a used s6, a used S7(already bought an sold one for 250) or I can roll with my Moto g4. So should I roll with the honor 8 again? How you guys feel?
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I personally think that the Honor 8 is a great phone.
At the mo I wouldn't change mine for any other phone.
It is the only phone that I have ever had that I had not felt the need to root.
I know that some folk hasn't been happy with updates but I'm using mine alongside my flatmates Pixel and he has only had one or two more updates than I have.
Honor are still saying that they will release thier source code for the emui 5 kernel.
Once they do that and we get a fully working lineage 14.1 then we will have access to the custom ROMs that we need
I guess it comes down to what you want your phone for ?
johnhux7 said:
I personally think that the Honor 8 is a great phone.
At the mo I wouldn't change mine for any other phone.
It is the only phone that I have ever had that I had not felt the need to root.
I know that some folk hasn't been happy with updates but I'm using mine alongside my flatmates Pixel and he has only had one or two more updates than I have.
Honor are still saying that they will release thier source code for the emui 5 kernel.
Once they do that and we get a fully working lineage 14.1 then we will have access to the custom ROMs that we need
I guess it comes down to what you want your phone for ?
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I really like good development and battery life. Honor 8 was great but the lack of development and terrible nougat battery life really put me off.
brownd7380 said:
I really like good development and battery life. Honor 8 was great but the lack of development and terrible nougat battery life really put me off.
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The development side of things I really believe will come.
We have some very talented developers working on lineage 14.1 at the mo.
They are nearly there without getting the source code from Honor so once they do release it we will be well on our way.
As for battery life you have to be patient with your phone.
The phone will learn your usage habbits but it takes a good 4/5 days for this to happen.
If you keep playing about with your phone you don't give it a change to learn.
My battery life was all over the place when I reset my phone but after a week of normal use I'm getting a good 24 hours out of it & that's good enough for me.
I went into a phone shop yesterday and there was not one phone on there that looked and felt as good as our Honor 8
johnhux7 said:
The development side of things I really believe will come.
We have some very talented developers working on lineage 14.1 at the mo.
They are nearly there without getting the source code from Honor so once they do release it we will be well on our way.
As for battery life you have to be patient with your phone.
The phone will learn your usage habbits but it takes a good 4/5 days for this to happen.
If you keep playing about with your phone you don't give it a change to learn.
My battery life was all over the place when I reset my phone but after a week of normal use I'm getting a good 24 hours out of it & that's good enough for me.
I went into a phone shop yesterday and there was not one phone on there that looked and felt as good as our Honor 8
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It's a beautiful phone no doubt.
I don't think there's a better combination of price, features, design, camera, performance, and battery life out there right now at a comparable price.
IMO the OnePlus 3 has the best value. The camera might be inferior but it's still acceptable especially if you only use it for social media.
The thing that brought me here instead of the OP3 is because this is a smaller phone. Period. That's the only reason that swayed me here. Heck it's even cheaper than the Honor here in the UK. But if you don't mind the size, OP3 is the better choice.
Having the honor 8, I can't imagine using another phone that doesn't have IR blaster
firdausJamil said:
IMO the OnePlus 3 has the best value. The camera might be inferior but it's still acceptable especially if you only use it for social media.
The thing that brought me here instead of the OP3 is because this is a smaller phone. Period. That's the only reason that swayed me here. Heck it's even cheaper than the Honor here in the UK. But if you don't mind the size, OP3 is the better choice.
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Granted you're UK, but the OnePlus 3 is a full 25%-30% more expensive than the Honor 8 and the camera is worse. When you're spending $400 for a phone, that puts you in a completely different price point -- that brings in options like the Nexus 6P, which I'd buy over a OnePlus 3.
Honor8 is nothing less than Precious Jewel in hand..
brownd7380 said:
I just sold my honor 8. I can buy another 8 at a discount or buy a new Moto g5, a used s6, a used S7(already bought an sold one for 250) or I can roll with my Moto g4. So should I roll with the honor 8 again? How you guys feel?
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Yes, Huawei Honor8 can be a perfect choice if you are looking for a mobile in mid range phones. Its nothing less than a precious Jewel in hand.
As i personally own this phone so i’ll say that Honor8 gives better performance as compare to Moto g5. I must say if you are looking phone in this range you should go with Honor8 if you dont want to regret in future.
Don’t you believe on me visit NDTV Gadgets comparison page and check see the comparison done by them.

Honor 8 owners; what will your next phone be?

Honor 8 owners; what will your next phone be, and why?
Or if you already have bought a new one, which one was it, and why that phone?
My next one won't be a Huawei one, that's for sure. I'm fed up with their bull****. I'll go OnePlus, Pixel or even Xiaomi depending on my budget.
I appreciated in the end the Oreo update they gave us, but i needed it just to intall RR beta 2 from openkirin and get rid of EMUI. Couldn't be happier about the rom. However, if i'll buy another phone the choice will dipend of the budget i will be able to afford. I'm interested in Xiaomi or Oneplus, as i'm done with Samsung and Honor for now...but maybe i could open again to Honor if they REALLY impresse me with an AMAZING quality/price phone. Unless that day bye bye Honor and Sammy
Poco F1 as of now... im really looking for compact phone like Honor 8 but no one manufactures it or even cares about it.. all they care about is ****ing notch and copying iphone..
I'm really happy with the build quality and aesthetics of the honor 8, but their software support is terrible. Now I am almost certain that the Oreo update is a one-off thing. I think I'll consider switching to one plus seeing their software support and pretty interested in the leaks of 6T. If a company launches lots of phones per year, their software support becomes more limited than the companies launching limited phone models per year, it's just my opinion though.
Gonna try out the iPhone. This was my first and will be my last phone from Huawei.
My next phone won't be Honor/Huawei. After Oreo official update my phone is hanging and randomly restarting. Probably Xiaomi/OnePlus/Asus ..
Honor 8 is my first Honor device, I had a Sony before that, and Samsung before that. I will NEVER go back to Samsung, Sony was good but lagging behind these days. And Honor 8 is impressive I have to say, apart from the chaotic updating protocol that Huawei seems to follow
I tried Xiaomi Mi A2 for a week and I didn’t like it. MIUI was a bit ‘rude’, couldn’t get rid of Google search bar, couldn’t see network speed on my notification bar, couldn’t even change ringtone (UK market, themes and ringtones are not supported due to privacy regulations!). Also LED notification light, it’s there, but only in white! Whether it’s an application notification or charging light! It’s just constantly white! I had to return the device
I like Honor I have to say, excellent build quality, multicolour notification light, network speed on notification bar, clearing memory from the bottom of the screen rather than having to scroll through all apps on top! And when I do clear the memory it tells me how much I’ve been using and how much left! It’s small things like this on daily use that I do appreciate
I will never buy an iPhone or Pixel just because it's against my principals! I also don’t want a ‘flagship’ device that will cost too much money because I know what I’m like, doesn’t matter how good or expensive the phone is, in a year or two I will want to buy another one! So no point paying too much just to let it sit in a drawer in a couple years time!
I did look at OnePlus 6, too expensive for my liking, also lack of MicroSD card could be an issue, I didn’t think it would be till I tried Xiaomi Mi A2 last week.
I used to like Nokia (I’m talking about original Nokia, 5110, 3310, 8250 and 6630!) Looked at 7 Plus but saw too many reviews mentioning charger socket problems and update lag issues, if they manage to rectify that, I might give Nokia a go :good:
Also very tempted to get the Honor Play now, wouldn’t pay launch price for it though as I know it will drop a bit soon/ish! I wouldn’t mind the notch if it’s properly integrated into the operating system, but then again, would I have same problems updating it in a couple months' time?
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Honor 8 owners; what will your next phone be, and why?
Or if you already have bought a new one, which one was it, and why that phone?
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S... It's a nobrainer for me. I was also thinking about OnePlus 6T and Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact, but they are really expensive and the Sony one doesn't have custom ROMs for it. Xiaomi is the perfect golden middle route: It only costs 410 bucks, but it's a flagship designed for my intensive gaming and programming needs and the XDA community for it is pretty active: there are so much custom ROMs for it that I can't choose from lots of MIUI replacements and Xiaomi supports making custom ROMs unlike Huawei.
Thanks to everyone for input and sharing experiences...
After thinking about it for quite a while I might go for OnePlus 6 128 gb
I think i'll try Xiaomi for the first time in my life, Mi 8 SE.
Xiaomi A2, Pixel 3, or Oneplus 6t, depending on availability and pricing. One thing is sure though, heavily modified Android or Huawei, never again.
Its gonna be the LG G7 for me
Probably the OnePlus 6T or Huawei P20/Mate 20
Im currently thinking of Nokia 7 plus... stock android, android one updates, working G-cam, big battery etc...
It kind of bothers me that some apps don't work correctly on huawei phones (i often see the warning "this app might not work correctly on your phone" and i had to try several apps to get the job done)...
No other cam app working on the 8, EMUI not so fresh oh and i need a new battery after one and a half year of not so heavy use...
Phone was good and good price when i bought it, made some good pics, its fast, but when you dig deeper there are flaws now and then....
not to mention the "when is the update coming? " thriller, specially with oreo....
My next phone will most likely either be a Pixel or OnePlus. But if some manufacturer like Huawei makes a phone with the best camera in a phone and it wouldn't cost that much, then I'd consider getting that.
Mate 10 pro should be on sale soon considering the mate 20/pro is coming out. It's around $500 to $550 now depending on the color. Hope to get it for around $400 in a few months.
Xiaomi mi8 explorer
Samsung S9 for me.. i really dont like big phones but the s9 feels just like my honor 8
i need something with SD card support and really hate cloud storage
Its may be the Honor 10 for me...

Is the development good or dying?

The title.
I am going to buy this phone soon.
Edit. I will skip this phone and get myself a redmi note 7 once it is released globally.(or a poco f1, once the software bugs are fixed.)
Android Pie is coming, sooo
Good development, ****ty community.
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Good development, ****ty community.
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Explain please?
The Restless Soul said:
Explain please?
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Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad. But development is good, a lot of custom roms, been using Pie rom Pixel Experience, runs like stock, no bugs, great performance and battery life. But if i were you, i would wait for redmi note 7.. much nicer design, a bit better soc, and probably better camera. And its gonna cost basically the same, well maybe 10euros more. Its not really logical buying redmi note 5 at this time, when you have newer devices for the same price. Even redmi note 6 costs the same and is newer, but the only upgrade on it is notched screen. RN7 is a real upgrade tho
Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
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The title.
I am going to buy this phone soon.
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go for poco f1
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The Restless Soul said:
Explain please?
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Incogn said:
Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad.
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And don't forget: In this community we have like 5-6 type of people:
- The PUBG user: how's the pubg gameplay plz anyone?
- The SOT lover: I have bad SOT plz dev fix asap
- The random reporter: I have X bug plz dev fix it see the screenshot
- The updates guy: Next update when plz?
- The normal user: we all know them.
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Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
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Well, in my experience the worst community was with my old S7 edge, that was... my god, a little example: random people building kernels/roms full of bugs and crap, and stupid users paying to be able to use them.
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go for poco f1
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I would go however i don't like the notch design. I can get used to it but why would i want to buy a phone so i can change the software right away?
Incogn said:
Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad. But development is good, a lot of custom roms, been using Pie rom Pixel Experience, runs like stock, no bugs, great performance and battery life. But if i were you, i would wait for redmi note 7.. much nicer design, a bit better soc, and probably better camera. And its gonna cost basically the same, well maybe 10euros more. Its not really logical buying redmi note 5 at this time, when you have newer devices for the same price. Even redmi note 6 costs the same and is newer, but the only upgrade on it is notched screen. RN7 is a real upgrade tho
Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
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I noticed that most of the people who are on xda are mostly indians. No offence to them but they are extremely dumb (not all of them, only the ones who ask retarded questions about this and that.). I can wait for note 7 however the 48mp camera is a gimmick.
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I noticed that most of the people who are on xda are mostly indians. No offence to them but they are extremely dumb (not all of them, only the ones who ask retarded questions about this and that.). I can wait for note 7 however the 48mp camera is a gimmick.
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Its not a gimmick. Its a really good sensor from samsung, and it uses pixel bining technology. Combining 4pixels into 1, resulting in waaayyy bigger pixels and way more light coming in, resulting in good quality 12mpx photos. RN7 is a midrange device for a budget phone price. You cant get sd660 with all the other goodies for this price anywhere else.
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Its not a gimmick. Its a really good sensor from samsung, and it uses pixel bining technology. Combining 4pixels into 1, resulting in waaayyy bigger pixels and way more light coming in, resulting in good quality 12mpx photos. RN7 is a midrange device for a budget phone price. You cant get sd660 with all the other goodies for this price anywhere else.
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Interesting. I can go with this phone but the glass back, not my cup of tea.
Yes it can be replaceable, but why add a glass back if your phone has no wireless charging?
Also i found a discount on a note 5 pro in my store for just 100 bucks. It expires on 17 january. So what should i do? Buy it or wait?
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Interesting. I can go with this phone but the glass back, not my cup of tea.
Yes it can be replaceable, but why add a glass back if your phone has no wireless charging?
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Because design wise it looks much more premium than aluminium. Also they follow design line of other xiaomi phones. They released mi 8 series with glass back, and if you look at mi 8 light, youll see its the same design as RN7. So, you get new, modern design, and design wise it didnt cost xiaomi anything, because research and development was already done on mi 8 series. If they released another metal phone, looking just like RN5, people would be crying non stop.. They already were crying, because RN4, RN5, RN6 had basically same design..
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Because design wise it looks much more premium than aluminium. Also they follow design line of other xiaomi phones. They released mi 8 series with glass back, and if you look at mi 8 light, youll see its the same design as RN7. So, you get new, modern design, and design wise it didnt cost xiaomi anything, because research and development was already done on mi 8 series. If they released another metal phone, looking just like RN5, people would be crying non stop.. They already were crying, because RN4, RN5, RN6 had basically same design..
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Alright. Strangely that in my country it will cost double but alright. I will look and see how this phone will go.
The Restless Soul said:
Also i found a discount on a note 5 pro in my store for just 100 bucks. It expires on 17 january. So what should i do? Buy it or wait?
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Well, 100usd is a joke of a price. For this hardware, its a bargain. If you dont need that extra 10% performance, better low light photos and more modern design, go for it. You wont find rn7 for 100usd thats for sure.
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Well, 100usd is a joke of a price. For this hardware, its a bargain. If you dont need that extra 10% performance, better low light photos and more modern design, go for it. You wont find rn7 for 100usd thats for sure.
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Alright. I will look and see what i will buy.
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.
I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.
This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.
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JLLE said:
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.
I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.
This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.
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I am kinda skeptical about it. Besides, when it arrives in the globe?
JLLE said:
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.
I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.
This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.
COBOL programmers understand why women hate periods.
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Yeah its not worth upgrading. But if you are buying, it makes more sense to go for RN7.
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I am kinda skeptical about it. Besides, when it arrives in the globe?
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Perhaps in Q1 2019.
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General Pixel 6 v OP9

What do you guys think of the new Pixel 6 that was (sort of) announced? Anyone planning to switch over when it gets released this fall?
Personally, I've constantly being going back and forth between Pixel and OnePlus devices.
I was thinking of sticking with OnePlus this time around but I've been dealing with poor RAM management on this device as well as feeling like the camera partnership with Hasselblad didn't live up to its hype. Tweaking just the colour science isn't enough for me, and it's unfortunate there's no OIS on the standard OnePlus 9 either.
The enhancements to the camera, particularly video recording on the Pixel 6 seems promising, so I'm pretty excited and I'm most likely going to switch!
I mean, even if the base model has OIS it'll be a vast improvement over the OP9. Hell, even EIS will destroy the OP9.
and it's unfortunate there's no OIS on the standard OnePlus 9 either.
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im still so amazed how my OP6 has OIS and my "hasslebrand" advert focused 9 does not. it baffles me that call was made.
Ive tried every ROM and many camera apps on each of them, all of them have such terrible camera issues with auto-focus times and whitebalance bleeding. Its hardly noticeable in videos and pictures but try to scan QR codes with it off another screen, if that QR code is a succession of them (say, for secure crypto wallet confirmations on a hardware wallet) it makes it IMPOSSIBLE to do without optimal lighting and YOU moving the phone around until its focus/lighting can play along. its so bad, Ive kept my OP6 instead of selling it.
I have other issues but Id like to end on a positive for OP. My 9 has had 2 issues and both were caused by me flashing ROMs. both times left the phone unable to use MSMToolkit and both times ive sent my phone in, free of charge, and got it back in complete working condition, free of charge. One was even a complete phone replacement. Not the easiest support system to utilize but as a non-warranty user, the 2nd time really shocked me i didnt have to pay a dime. I flashed the phone with MSM right when i got to to assure it worked and sure enough, it does. (and i didnt learn a damn thing because im running crDroid and loving it.) I'm almost certain both times were caused by the unofficial TWRP port for 9/9Pro, so I would avoid that at all costs.
Simply put, I will be making the switch.
Switching. Definitely switching.
I don't really care about phone cameras that much, so for me I'd rather keep the OP9 than go to a phone with a brand new SoC from a company known for very crappy first iterations, bad documentation, and bad support of their own products. These phones are going to be way too expensive for what they are (ugly as hell), when you can get a OP9 for probably half the price of the new Pixel phones.
I'd rather have an iPhone or overspend on a Samsung with a snapdragon than buy the pixel 6
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I don't really care about phone cameras that much, so for me I'd rather keep the OP9 than go to a phone with a brand new SoC from a company known for very crappy first iterations, bad documentation, and bad support of their own products. These phones are going to be way too expensive for what they are (ugly as hell), when you can get a OP9 for probably half the price of the new Pixel phones.
I'd rather have an iPhone or overspend on a Samsung with a snapdragon than buy the pixel 6
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I can understand that but personally I tried iphone recently for about 2 months and I had to switch back to android. The 12 pro max was just too heavy and had too many things that annoyed me because android did it better lol. I haven't owned Samsung since the note 5 and I'll probably never own another Samsung phone. Their skin and their bloat apps are just not for me. Been with OnePlus a while but the OnePlus 9 really disappointed me. My phone overheats just browsing the internet or using WhatsApp. It's annoying and the battery life is crap especially compared to the 12 pro max I had.
toyanucci said:
I can understand that but personally I tried iphone recently for about 2 months and I had to switch back to android. The 12 pro max was just too heavy and had too many things that annoyed me because android did it better lol. I haven't owned Samsung since the note 5 and I'll probably never own another Samsung phone. Their skin and their bloat apps are just not for me. Been with OnePlus a while but the OnePlus 9 really disappointed me. My phone overheats just browsing the internet or using WhatsApp. It's annoying and the battery life is crap especially compared to the 12 pro max I had.
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ya my iPhone/Samsung comment was really more joking. My point is that if your OP9 overheats then that's a specific unit problem, like I would just get a different one, or a Oneplus 8 Pro, or even a xiaomi 11 Ultra. I feel like the new Google device is going to have major issues like new google stuff always does. If you think your phone has issues now wait until you play wiht a brand new SoC from the one company notorious for putting out half baked, half finished products that usually get canned.
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I don't really care about phone cameras that much, so for me I'd rather keep the OP9 than go to a phone with a brand new SoC from a company known for very crappy first iterations, bad documentation, and bad support of their own products. These phones are going to be way too expensive for what they are (ugly as hell), when you can get a OP9 for probably half the price of the new Pixel phones.
I'd rather have an iPhone or overspend on a Samsung with a snapdragon than buy the pixel 6
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The s21 overheats to bad I sold mind and got OnePlus 9 I don't think I will be going back to Samsung anytime soon I ain't sure if it's just the chip or just the phone but I did notice that OnePlus phone don't get hot like Samsung does
I'm keeping a watch on the Pixel 6 Pro as a possible next device....
Google Pixel 6 Pro
The Google Pixel 6 Pro is a 6.71" phone with a 1440x3120 120Hz display. The Google Tensor chipset is paired with 12GB of RAM and 128/256/512GB of storage. The main camera is 50+48+12MP and the selfie camera is 11.1MP. The battery has a 5003mAh capacity.
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P6 100% The ride has been good but will be coming to an end.
I love my Oneplus 9 honestly. No bugs or issues, no overheating. Battery life is good. no curved screen (I cannot STAND curved screens). I mean for me it just works. That 120hz screen is awesome. there's not too much bloat and it's easily rooted.
Plus you can get it for a really good price right now. The warp charge it comes with is cool basically a full charge from nothing in 25 minutes or so. And wireless charging. No other frills needed, camera is good enough for me.
I will see what hte Pixel 6 has in store for me, but honestly I think it's going to be overpriced and not much or any better than the current snapdragon 888 offerings. I like competition, and I hope the new tensor SoC will make Qualcomm worry and start pushing their chip designs (like what AMD is doing to Intel).
But for me, I really feel like I am going to ride or die with the OP9 until OP11 or Xiaomi Mi Mix 5/6 or something that is actually really cool. Samsung has a horrible UI, is overpriced, and is a bit boring for me. Pixel phones have been outdated when they are released with older chip hardware and small screens while having a high price tag.
Let's keep a close eye on the Pixel 6, I could always jump ship too if I it blows me away..
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I love my Oneplus 9 honestly. No bugs or issues, no overheating. Battery life is good. no curved screen (I cannot STAND curved screens). I mean for me it just works. That 120hz screen is awesome. there's not too much bloat and it's easily rooted.
Plus you can get it for a really good price right now. The warp charge it comes with is cool basically a full charge from nothing in 25 minutes or so. And wireless charging. No other frills needed, camera is good enough for me.
I will see what hte Pixel 6 has in store for me, but honestly I think it's going to be overpriced and not much or any better than the current snapdragon 888 offerings. I like competition, and I hope the new tensor SoC will make Qualcomm worry and start pushing their chip designs (like what AMD is doing to Intel).
But for me, I really feel like I am going to ride or die with the OP9 until OP11 or Xiaomi Mi Mix 5/6 or something that is actually really cool. Samsung has a horrible UI, is overpriced, and is a bit boring for me. Pixel phones have been outdated when they are released with older chip hardware and small screens while having a high price tag.
Let's keep a close eye on the Pixel 6, I could always jump ship too if I it blows me away..
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I'm skeptical yet excited at the same time. Really hoping Google blows us all away with a beast of a device!
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I'm skeptical yet excited at the same time. Really hoping Google blows us all away with a beast of a device!
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Well I loved the Nexus One, which might still be my favorite new phone release to this day, so I guess it's not impossible.
still on cdDroid. love the built in buds control. other roms are reporting bluetooth playback issues, mine isnt.
My pixel dialer features broke for a day but the latest module fixed it https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/GoogleDialerFramework (just know, i run beta releases of messages, phone and carrier services alone with having the originals disabled.
if you want pixel 6 AI voicscreening, install the modual then clear cache of google play, google services and reboot!
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Well Google proved once again they think it's OK to provide old hardware with flagship pricing again, because camera gimmicks.
The Pixel fanboys are hard at work forgiving Google for providing inferior CPU, modem, display, battery charging, fingerprint, aesthetic design, and more for the privilege of being Google's buggy software beta testers.
Android in weird place with OnePlus now settling on everything they once bragged or made fun of others for doing.
I don't think there will be much improvement I switching from OP9 to Pixel, just going from one set of annoyances to another. All I can say for certain is the display modem and CPU are superior on OP9. Will see if A12 improves OP9 experience.
zymphad said:
Well Google proved once again they think it's OK to provide old hardware with flagship pricing again, because camera gimmicks.
The Pixel fanboys are hard at work forgiving Google for providing inferior CPU, modem, display, battery charging, fingerprint, aesthetic design, and more for the privilege of being Google's buggy software beta testers.
Android in weird place with OnePlus now settling on everything they once bragged or made fun of others for doing.
I don't think there will be much improvement I switching from OP9 to Pixel, just going from one set of annoyances to another. All I can say for certain is the display modem and CPU are superior on OP9. Will see if A12 improves OP9 experience.
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Pixel 6 screen is a blotchy OLED mess, sent my first one back and ordered a second. If the second one is terrible I'm rooting the op9 and getting Google dialer features. The screen is the single most important part of a smartphone.
redeyss said:
Pixel 6 screen is a blotchy OLED mess, sent my first one back and ordered a second. If the second one is terrible I'm rooting the op9 and getting Google dialer features. The screen is the single most important part of a smartphone.
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Man that is crazy.
Waiting to see how your second ones comes in because I was eyeing this phone and ya can't handle a bogus screen.
orangekid said:
Man that is crazy.
Waiting to see how your second ones comes in because I was eyeing this phone and ya can't handle a bogus screen.
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I'm a pixel fanboy for sure but after returning the pixel 6 I tried two pixel 5a phones and both had horrible OLED displays, both returned. I bought a pre owned OnePlus 9 from Amazon and this screen is freaking amazing, uniform and even lighting and smooth as butter. If the second p6 screen isn't great I'll keep the op9 or go back to my pixel 4xl.
My big gripe on the 9 is the reception is terrible and I have BT issues all the time in my Hondas. Works ok with wireless Buds Z.
I was hoping the Pixel 6 would be better. I guess I can always go back to my 7 Pro.

Question Anyone considering abandoning their X3 Pro?

And shifting to another fairly not flocked brand like Infinix? They are not touting their brand and models "As flagship killers" like OnePlus did, but their newer models are at least mid end spectrum of phone specs.
I'm checking out their Note 11 Pro... Anyone have this phone rn?
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And shifting to another fairly not flocked brand like Infinix? They are not touting their brand and models "As flagship killers" like OnePlus, but their newer models are at least mid end spectrum of phone specs.
I'm checking out their Note 11 Pro... Anyone have this phone rn?
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For my it's good phone at the moment x3 pro. I have no issue whit them at all. I'm on legion os, without any modification, just rooted.
irmas5 said:
For my it's good phone at the moment x3 pro. I have no issue whit them at all. I'm on legion os, without any modification, just rooted.
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For daily use, it works for me yeah... Somehow, as an everyday carry... But it is quite lacking compared to the last phone that I had(K20 Pro).
The FP is wonky at best, the plastic external button looks like it's about to fall off anytime it's being touched.
The audio is stupendously nerve-wracking if you don't know your way around the settings, good that I found the setting for volume control on individual apps. I find this the most annoying thing in the X3 Pro.
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For daily use, it works for me yeah... Somehow, as an everyday carry... But it is quite lacking compared to the last phone that I had(K20 Pro).
The FP is wonky at best, the plastic external button looks like it's about to fall off anytime it's being touched.
The audio is stupendously nerve-wracking if you don't know your way around the settings, good that I found the setting for volume control on individual apps. I find this the most annoying thing in the X3 Pro.
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Yeh. some times fp laging, needs touch few times. but overall it's not to bad for me. I'm not gamer or try push to over limits and say i bricked my phone.
I doubt you can find anything better for $200
Simple answer: You get what you pay for. And SD860 with ufs 3.1 storage at this price range is really a good steal.
If you really want a premium phone, you should start with $500+
The only criticisms I have are the relatively slow security patches and the awful MIUI. Everything else is totally acceptable given the very reasonable price.
irmas5 said:
Yeh. some times fp laging, needs touch few times. but overall it's not to bad for me. I'm not gamer or try push to over limits and say i bricked my phone.
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I haven't even played on my phone from 100% to 0% if that's what you meant by "Push to over limits". I have yet to unlock BL on my phone or do other soft mods, I lost my touch with custom roms after getting the K20 Pro. Not sure whether it's the lack of time and patience to deal with the whole process of installing a rom.
k3lcior said:
I doubt you can find anything better for $200
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Infinix has the same pricing, not sure if they have the same or equivalent specs for their Note 11 Pro.
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Simple answer: You get what you pay for. And SD860 with ufs 3.1 storage at this price range is really a good steal.
If you really want a premium phone, you should start with $500+
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I mean it is pretty much what it is, but weird quirks of this phone is just everywhere. Pocket mode is spotty AF, one time while I was trying to fool myself on getting into running - the phone would randomly hold Forward/Next while on lockscreen or triple click or that other time while I was running and the phone made an in-app purchase worth US$80 Good thing Play store honors 24-hour refunds.
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The only criticisms I have are the relatively slow security patches and the awful MIUI. Everything else is totally acceptable given the very reasonable price.
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The entirety of the phone as a whole is good, the little problems is what makes it problematic for me. I could have just stuck with my K20 Pro if I knew this phone is no better than someone else's OnePlus 3.
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