Just got the PH-1 pure white, what a disappointment! - Essential Phone Guides, News, & Discussion

The disappointment I think more because I was SO looking forward to getting it, I was literally counting the hours, and then when I opened the box I saw little chips off the frame and a gap between screen and frame, I was gutted, I was almost desperate enough to just keep the phone, as getting a replacement through Amazon is a pain (if you are in South Africa at least). But decided to get the replacement. so back to waiting for a few more days... just really peeved at the Quality control, especially as the build quality is one of the main reasons I selected the PH-1...
see photos below. was I being too critical?

Jostian said:
The disappointment I think more because I was SO looking forward to getting it, I was literally counting the hours, and then when I opened the box I saw little chips off the frame and a gap between screen and frame, I was gutted, I was almost desperate enough to just keep the phone, as getting a replacement through Amazon is a pain (if you are in South Africa at least). But decided to get the replacement. so back to waiting for a few more days... just really peeved at the Quality control, especially as the build quality is one of the main reasons I selected the PH-1...
see photos below. was I being too critical?
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I have a pure white one too and although I don't have too many issues with the frame like you, I do have a gap around the front camera which is causing light-bleed noticeable when it's dark. I (maybe stupidly) have ordered the halo grey version from Amazon US - hope it doesn't have the same issues.

let me know if the halo grey one is any better.

Jostian said:
The disappointment I think more because I was SO looking forward to getting it, I was literally counting the hours, and then when I opened the box I saw little chips off the frame and a gap between screen and frame, I was gutted, I was almost desperate enough to just keep the phone, as getting a replacement through Amazon is a pain (if you are in South Africa at least). But decided to get the replacement. so back to waiting for a few more days... just really peeved at the Quality control, especially as the build quality is one of the main reasons I selected the PH-1...
see photos below. was I being too critical?
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Are you certain that this is not just the sealant glue that is used to mount the screen assembly to the frame? I noticed that the glue, which is black, appears on every single PH-1.

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I have a pure white one too and although I don't have too many issues with the frame like you, I do have a gap around the front camera which is causing light-bleed noticeable when it's dark. I (maybe stupidly) have ordered the halo grey version from Amazon US - hope it doesn't have the same issues.
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I have a white as well. With similar I'd call micro-ridges along where the white material meets the glass. It's hard to see but once you see it you can't stop seeing them.
But what's worse is I'm having stains on the white material which don't seem to be able to wash off with a damp cloth. Extremely annoying.

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let me know if the halo grey one is any better.
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Can't tell you about he Halo one but I ordered a Stellar Gray today. Have had a black one since September and I got tired of the fingerprints...That is why I did not order a copper black.

well, I'll see what the replacement looks like, if it is also not great, I'll try one of the darker colors.

Anyone have issue where adhesive residue is permanent where you peel off IMEI sticker on the back? I can tell that a sticker has been there, no matter how many times I try cleaning it.

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Anyone have issue where adhesive residue is permanent where you peel off IMEI sticker on the back? I can tell that a sticker has been there, no matter how many times I try cleaning it.
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I have seen that on one Essential PH-1 that I owned. My current one doesn't have that issue.

dh, what is your manufactures date of the ph1?

Jostian said:
The disappointment I think more because I was SO looking forward to getting it, I was literally counting the hours, and then when I opened the box I saw little chips off the frame and a gap between screen and frame, I was gutted, I was almost desperate enough to just keep the phone, as getting a replacement through Amazon is a pain (if you are in South Africa at least). But decided to get the replacement. so back to waiting for a few more days... just really peeved at the Quality control, especially as the build quality is one of the main reasons I selected the PH-1...
see photos below. was I being too critical?
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No, you are not. I would have replaced my phone too. I stayed in Singapore and have replaced my phone twice, I. E. Shipped 3 times. Took me more than 3 months to properly own my Essential Phone.
However for me, nothing was wrong with all the Essential Phones I got.. Were just some stupid accidents. I was, in fact, very very impressed with Amazon's service. When you are in Asia, you will understand how amazing Amazon is.
My current Essential Phone is the white one. Wanted to add that my one came in perfect condition. Not to brag but just so if someone who wants to buy comes in, he knows that not all Essential Phones are bad.

My replacement arrived today and its 100%, I'm SO chuffed, its gorgeous. I was really worried, as the replacement process though not arduous isn't easy (I'm in South Africa). Am so glad I didn't settle for the 1st one, as this one is great... no gaps or chips... now just to not drop it before my case arrives.

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Cuts my hand?

Hi all,
I got my Nexus one and ever since I am bugged with this "defect"?. I checked with one of my friends and his N1 got this defect too. Do you all have it?
The defect is that; Right above the volume control buttons, the back cover doesn't fit. Part of the front casing (being hard and all) cuts my fingers when i try to hold this thing in my right hand. And that's my hand I use for reading stuff..
My questions are:
- do you have the same problem?
- if not, how can I order a back cover that fits perfectly? since I am really really annoyed with this?
- if there's another way of fixing this issue, what would that be?
best,
kirpi
I am from Turkey and one of my friends brought this n1 to me by the way, so rma is not an option [and I actually unlocked the bootloader already anyways]
mine does not have this defect
http://www.htc.com/www/support/nexusone/
they might still get you a replacement part for a hardware defect that cut you.. id call or email them and ask
Mine is fine.
My first Nexus One did not have this defect. My replacement does.
Call HTC and have them send you a replacement battery cover. If the replacement doesn't fit, have them send you a new phone.
Yes, I noticed it too and looked all over the web to see if it was normal. Seeing as others have noticed it to and some have even had one that fits properly and one that doesn't I think I'll try to call HTC and have them send a free cover. Has anyone tried this and been successful?
well, apparently it is not normal. so I asked htc how can i replace the cover.
i actually wait for any vendor /chinese etc/ to produce spare parts so that i can buy one in case htc cannot provide the cover to turkey
The back cover is off for me as well, however, I would suggest manual labor to toughen up your hands.
kirpi said:
well, apparently it is not normal. so I asked htc how can i replace the cover.
i actually wait for any vendor /chinese etc/ to produce spare parts so that i can buy one in case htc cannot provide the cover to turkey
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Did you speak to someone at HTC? Did they offer to send a replacement cover? The thing is I can't tell if it's the cover that is off or if the phone part is off.
The back case is a little off. And from all the pictures of nexus one... it seems to be the case for everyone. However, nothing that will cut finger. I rubbed my finger on it for 2-3 minutes..nothing.
Everyone else.. look closely.. the metal part between volume and power is slightly visible as compared to smooth side of left. It is very slight and looks like a design change HTC made for placing volume and power key.
Called HTC and they agreed to send out a replacement battery cover so we'll see if that changes anything.
My first phone did not have this. My second did. I am now on my third and it has the slightest of a lip. You couldn't even notice it unless it was up to your eye. However my issue is with the screen. The right side of the screen is not flush with the phone, and there is a jagged lip that is horrid. I've been waiting for them to close my current ticket ( It's been 2 weeks, and have my money back in my back, but it still says testing phone ( yes , it was unlocked =) )). My old phone had massive dust under the screen.
Anyone else have this screen to phone edge problem? I almost regret selling my iPhone as the quality control seemed better. But I love my openess
I have no edge issues on the back cover...
muncheese said:
The back cover is off for me as well, however, I would suggest manual labor to toughen up your hands.
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yeah if that cut him WOW!!! hahahaha
What kind of moisturizer do you use? Your hands must be silky smooth! Like buttah!
I just noticed this defect today! I only noticed it after dropping it though (while sitting on the toilet it fell out of my pocket) so no damage of course but didn't notice before hand
well i am not that silky smooth but my skin may be a little too sensitive, i admit (allergetic person here)
However, the off part is not that much small in my casing.
Also it might be related to how I handle the phone. I use my right hand to hold it and my index finger and middle finger hovers around that problematic edge all the time while using it. I changed my handling (since i cannot change jobs for a manual labor that easily )
anyways, HTC has agreed to send me a back cover without even asking too many questions (obviously to a friend of mine in america) It made me think that, this is a well known issue. If that defect is with the chassis than I'll just wait for HTC desire sell mine after that
I received my replacement battery cover today and unfortunately it also does not fit. I called HTC and they are escalating the issue to the accessories department to have them investigate the battery covers not fitting the recently built Nexus Ones.
cekle
it is saddening to hear that.. the rma life cycle is like hell for me (since i reside in turkey) well, please let us know if ever a fitting cover is sent to you and i will re apply.
I think all the N1s have this defect. Mine is about a quarter of a millimeter off just above the battery. It is actually common in electronics for covers to not fit perfectly.
Do I really care about something being .25 mm off? No.
The better question is, should that be enough to cut your hand or even scratch it?
In any manufactoring there is a "tolarence" that defects have to be under in order to be shipped out. In reality, everything has a defect.
The amount this cover is off is certiantly within most manufactoring tolarences. The N1 isn't going on a space shuttle so there is no need to have a tolarence of .001 mm.
There, you learned somethhing amount engineering and manufactoring.
In all honesty, do I think the tolarence for the cover was a big too high? Yes, but you are building something that costs $175 to make and then turning around and selling it $179 already, some corners must be cut.
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The back case is a little off. And from all the pictures of nexus one... it seems to be the case for everyone. However, nothing that will cut finger. I rubbed my finger on it for 2-3 minutes..nothing.
Everyone else.. look closely.. the metal part between volume and power is slightly visible as compared to smooth side of left. It is very slight and looks like a design change HTC made for placing volume and power key.
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Mine does not have a gap.
It looks the same on both sides for me.

Dust under glass? anyone else have this problem?

picked up 2 Nexus S on release day, went home happy. Preoccupied with work, so I only powered them up last night.
To my Surprise, both phones have dust under the glass! WTF Samsung? Removed the plastic sheet on the front to make sure, and yes, it's under the glass.
on one phone the dust was smack in the middle, while on the other phone it was a little left of the middle.
Can't be seen on a dark screen, but once you switch to a white background like the web or texting you can see it.
I know I am probably being OCD and anal about this, but heck I paid over $1k for both phones out of contract.
Went back to BestBuy and returned them promply, of course now they are sold out, and I have to wait for the next shipment.
Just wondering if others have similar experiences? BTW, I also had a Galaxy Tab and before returned it, it also had some dust specs under the glass...
I also own an HD2 and G2, seems HTC is better at QC.
Shame, really want this phone but WTF samsung?
Nope you sure its under the glass?
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No dust under the screen here.
It seems that this first batch of phones is a rather mixed bag; some have defects and others are fine. It was a good idea to return them, hopefully your replacements will be free of issues.
My first S had a little speck of something. I initially thought it was a dead pixel, but I could see it when the screen was off also so I assumed it was dust. I returned it and checked the next one out before I left the store and it seems to be good.
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Nope you sure its under the glass?
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100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
jdm_cars said:
100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
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this happen when you have 2 layers for the screen. the internal part and the upper part where you touch.
there is an advantage for this. if god forbid you dropped and broke the screen, only the upper part gets replaced. and wouldnt cost you much to do so " and you wont get another screen with dead pixel and being OCD whatever the new screen is good or not. because the actuall inner screen isnt touched.
the bad thing about is what you said. dust can enter in the middle between both layers of the screen.
even if you get a new nexus S without dust under the screen, if you leave it in the open area with sun and wind always hitting it, you will get a dust somehow inside as well. so make sure your phone is in a pocket most of the time.
the only phone i remember right now that had both layers of the screens touched as 1 part is the iphone 2G and the iphone 4 " i am sure there are others but i dont know "
this result to no dust under the screen no matter what " unless the dust came from factory while they were attaching both screens on top of each other and glue them "
but if you break your screen in the iphone 4.... god help you.
Yeah, after about a week and couple of days of usage, I've got my first spec of dust in the top left area of the screen. Really, it's nothing noticeable but I do have some sort of OCD with my phone (god help me if I get a visible scratch on the screen).
I don't think it's really worth taking it back to get it changed as this Nexus S I have currently has no problems whatsoever, I don't even have the pink or yellow screen issue with this one. I think I'm just gonna have to live with that one spec of dust for now...
I think this may be just bad QC. I looked at ifixit taking apart the NS. Basically they said the trickiest part to the disassembly was the screen, and they had to use a heat gun to soften the glue just to separate the 2 screens. So dust entering between those 2 screens would be pretty difficult unless the glue wasn't properly applied from the assembly line.
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I don't have dust under my Nexus S screen... but I do have dust under my front facing camera! And its only recently just got there - I remember playing around with it extensively when I first got it 6 months ago and the camera was really clear and sharp.
Now it is all fuzzy and white haze. And I can see all the dust particles on the underside of the glass. Annoying!
Anyone know if there's an easy way to clean it? Or is it a case of back to Samsung?

Physical Drop & Scratch Resistance Report

Hi everyone,
The Essential company claims that the phone is very drop and scratch resistant thanks to the premium materials used in the phone, but sadly there are no official Essential drop tests available anywhere which is mainly due to all the problems Essential seems to be having with supplies and rolling out their first manufactured devices. There are also some reports surfacing from the very early adopters of the phone of some scuffs and scratches which never go beyond a mere mention.
I thought I would start this thread where people who have the phone can report about how the phone handles inadvertent drops and scratches and scuffs to the screen and the ceramic back. When posting, please also include a little bit of explanation as to how it happened and if possible a picture of the supposed damages to the phone.
Cheers.
dropped mine twice. 2 nicks in screen, but ceramic and titanium are fine.
This also came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QxIvm7T90
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This also came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9QxIvm7T90
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I watched the video. Mous of 7 or better on the ceramic. The finish in the titanium can be damaged but noting like aluminum.
Forget about bending the phone. The phone is pretty tough. A case will protect th cosmetics.
https://www.cnet.com/videos/we-destroyed-the-essential-phone/
Seems like this will be a very durable device.
Ya for what its worth it is way way way better than any aluminum phone would do. This they got right but its the software and camera that hold it back
jerflash said:
Ya for what its worth it is way way way better than any aluminum phone would do. This they got right but its the software and camera that hold it back
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My only complaint is the camera software.
Other than that, I don't have any issues.
I would like a case, but only for cosmetics.
Know what really does it for me? Stock Android is a bit too stock also. I have gotten really used to how the pixel works and really like it with all it's slight tweaks to stock.
The cameras sensors are still too small to be on the level of the the other flagships too. Not only software. The Google camera does pretty well though
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jerflash said:
Know what really does it for me? Stock Android is a bit too stock also. I have gotten really used to how the pixel works and really like it with all it's slight tweaks to stock.
The cameras sensors are still too small to be on the level of the the other flagships too. Not only software. The Google camera does pretty well though
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I use Nova, so Android is never really stock for me.
I use Nova Launcher because I can restore my device layout on any device.
As far as the camera, I'm not that concerned about the quality.
For me it's a case of not having a better camera and just getting the picture is important.
If I really wanted a good photo, I'd use one of my"real" cameras.
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I use Nova, so Android is never really stock for me.
I use Nova Launcher because I can restore my device layout on any device.
As far as the camera, I'm not that concerned about the quality.
For me it's a case of not having a better camera and just getting the picture is important.
If I really wanted a good photo, I'd use one of my"real" cameras.
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Happy you like it man! It's not for everyone for sure. I thought it was my dream phone but for me... It's just not their yet. The next one maybe and still super happy with what they were able to make!
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I've dropped this phone in 1 week more than I've dropped my Pixel XL in the past 3 months, just because of how slippery the little bugger is. No damage as a result of dropping it, though.
I do have some very light scratches on the ceramic back, from sliding across my desk or countertop at home, which I was *not* expecting. Both the top, by the mod indentation holes, and at the bottom left, too. I know they aren't from dropping it, as every time it's fallen, it's landed on its side or a corner, never flat on its back.
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I've dropped this phone in 1 week more than I've dropped my Pixel XL in the past 3 months, just because of how slippery the little bugger is. No damage as a result of dropping it, though.
I do have some very light scratches on the ceramic back, from sliding across my desk or countertop at home, which I was *not* expecting. Both the top, by the mod indentation holes, and at the bottom left, too. I know they aren't from dropping it, as every time it's fallen, it's landed on its side or a corner, never flat on its back.
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Stop being so rich with your diamond crusted desks and counter tops ?
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Stop being so rich with your diamond crusted desks and counter tops ?
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So I actually was checking out these:
https://egrips.com
Was tired of all my phones falling out if my pockets or slipping thru my hands...
jerflash said:
Happy you like it man! It's not for everyone for sure. I thought it was my dream phone but for me... It's just not their yet. The next one maybe and still super happy with what they were able to make!
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It is definitely not the phone for everyone. Build quality is for everyone.
There are some software shortcomings. I think they can sort those out.
I sold my 6P. SO I have the Essential for the long haul.
I have my replacement phone arriving today. I have gone through 2 glass screen protectors that due to the fit of them (not sticking to the edges) I have a nick in the glass at the top left and the screen is completely shattered on the bottom left, I can see gold metal under it and it has a crack running diagonally from left to right from the bottom left. I know I never dropped this phone from more than 2 feet high. I also have the scratches on the ceramic back near the mods ports. I've only used my 360 a couple of times. I'm definitely getting a case and moving to a plastic wet install screen protector.
I haven't dropped this phone yet, but I have several hairline scratches on the back ceramic. I guess I'm around a lot of minerals or dust particles that are > 8 hardness, which I find interesting.
Also on the glass I notice a patch of hairline scratches. I'm usually real careful about my phones (of course, everyone says this) but I think that's more of Corning's fault this time around. They're really small but knowing they're there bothers me. I wish I could buff them out. I'll be getting a screen protector I guess.
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So I actually was checking out these:
https://egrips.com
Was tired of all my phones falling out if my pockets or slipping thru my hands...
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Oh wow, those are cool
My back panel got scratched (micro scratches) that's so weird. Got ceramic Xiaomi mi2 and it was perfectly strong....not like this one.
I dropped mine screen facing the floor from about 4 feet. Screen survived, minor scratches. Not a single crack. I didn't expect the screen to survive.
-Nav
I have a step from main floor to foyer. Placed my phone near the edge and my dog pushed it down to tiles. Face down smashed!
2 line of scratches at the bottom bezel.
small dings on top left and bottom left corner display.
Sigh... thought it would survive...

Will an Xperia XZ screen work in the XZs? [Solved]

So I got a pretty sweet deal on an XZs for $35 with a broken screen, it was supposed to be an XZ but whatever I got a free upgrade, so I was going to get an XZ screen but now that I found out that it's an XZs I noticed the screens are a little harder to find, much less at a decent price, however it appears as if it uses the same screen in both phones and the the exact same body, so in theory I could just get an XZ screen right?
Can anyone on here confirm that? Oh and I did ask Sony support about fixing it/parts and they said they only cover manufacturer defects and straight up told me to go find a third-party, utterly useless...
Minor update, I found an ebay seller that listed the screen for both phones and I asked him for a confirmation on that, which he said yes, thus I decided to go ahead and buy the screen, so presumably it does in fact use the same screen on both phones, I'll try to remember and post an update next week on whether or not the screen works.
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Minor update, I found an ebay seller that listed the screen for both phones and I asked him for a confirmation on that, which he said yes, thus I decided to go ahead and buy the screen, so presumably it does in fact use the same screen on both phones, I'll try to remember and post an update next week on whether or not the screen works.
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Doing the same research right now - nothing came up It'll be great if you share you experience when you get a screen
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Doing the same research right now - nothing came up It'll be great if you share you experience when you get a screen
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Alright well great news for you and anyone looking for replacement screens, I'm not guaranteeing anything but the XZ and XZs do appear to share the same screen, it totally works! (Pics below)
One thing to note, my screen didn't come with any dust filters and it's probably a good idea to replace the adhesive for the earpiece when transferring it over, but I didn't have either of those so I just took em off the broken screen.
Edit: Update, I just got some adhesive for my phone so the screen will stay securely in place, I was previously using electrical tape as a temporary solution which does alright but I can't recommend doing it, as it leaves sticky residue behind which takes a little more effort than I'd like in order to remove it, if anyone needs the adhesive and doesn't mind waiting 2-4 weeks, I can recommend this seller KevinTwoPlusOne Store because you can order 3 pcs for $1 which I highly recommend doing since if like me, this isn't something you do often then there's a good chance you'll screw up on your first try making extras mandatory, also I'd like to note that the adhesive isn't as strong as OEM, the screen can be pealed off again without heat, now that doesn't necessarily mean it's less effective at keeping water out but I'm obviously very hesitant to test out whether my new phone is water-resistant or not, especially with the reused adhesive around the speaker.
Edit2: Alright well 4 months later I have another update, the adhesive I recommended a while back is starting to give, after normal use and a few mild drops I can see a small amount of light from the backlight from under the left corner, I admit I may have messed up applying it in some way, but I might suggest paying a little more than $1 for something better or just use some double sided tape.
Edit3: Ok so I made the dumb decision to buy the same adhesive a second time and it appears that my issue had more to do with my phone specifically, as I applied adhesive again and it started to peel up in the same corner within just a few days so I took it off and this time I noticed that my screen doesn't quite sit flush except in one small spot, so possibly even a bad design for the frame? I dunno, it doesn't appear to be bent or anything but I applied the adhesive for a third time and it looks like it should be flush and should hold pretty well now, so if you want to save a few bucks it's not a bad option, it shouldn't be any worse than double sided tape however, I'm going to have to standby my previous statement and recommend just paying for something stronger, it'll just be less of a hassle later on AND make sure you place your screen into the frame a few times to make sure it sits flush, that said definitely still get some cheap stuff so you can practice it a few times before you try with something stronger. (just found out that this is actually a fairly common problem with xperia phones in particular the Z3 compact where the third-party adhesives don't hold, you need something on the level of OEM quality and not OEM compliant.)
Edit4: Alright this should be my final edit and I've come to the conclusion that none of the currently available adhesive stickers are strong enough to permanently hold the screen to the frame, if a HMG sticker comes along then maybe, but until then I'm going to recommend using B7000 instead, it's cheap and the main thing most people are recommending to use, I've also heard some good things about loctite vinyl adhesive but it'll cost a little more per oz/ml so something to consider if you run a repair shop.
It's a good idea to replace a new screen with cheaper cost. but xz
has no light blue color. black,white or dark blue maybe ugly.
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It's a good idea to replace a new screen with cheaper cost. but xz
has no light blue color. black,white or dark blue maybe ugly.
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That is one personal preference and two depends on the base color it came with, I for one think the dark blue looks nicer and looks beautiful on my black phone, now yes you could argue that it might hurt the resale value, but honestly xperia devices have pretty bad resale value as it is and as long as you're honest and provide pics I don't think many would be buyers will care too much.
thanks for your review

Smudges on new phone

Hi I got my U12+ just last friday. It wasn't until a couple of days later that I noticed what look like dirty smudges on the back of the phone, and they won't come off. At some angles the phone looks beautifully shiney, but at a few angles, these smudges really show up, some around the camera, around most edges, and a strange 1cm square to the bottom-right of the c (i.e near the htc logo).
I bought the phone from a main street retailer; the box was shrink-wrapped, everything inside it pristine, earphones all unopened, etc, so it does not seem to have been tampered with.
So I wonder if this is just some sloppy manufacturing? I've got two photos, one where I have highlighted with a yellow line the areas that I'm talking about. (And the red line is a reflection of my htc 10 I took the photo with; sorry about the spotlight reflection.) The smudges look more obvious when holding the phone (i.e worse than I can show in the photo).
The more I look at it, the more it makes me think this is from excess glue or sealant around the camera area; and along the sides, looks like it's where they've wiped extra glue off when they glued the back? The weirdest bit is the square mark.
I feel I'm being really fussy and would not return it just because of this (and because I'm in New Zealand, where probably very few htc are ever sold, I'd probably be in for a world of pain doing a return). But I'd like to remove the marks if possible.
Has anyone seen anything similar? Or know how to remove marks like this?
What can I use to clean the back? All the talk about this phone says 'glass front and back', but neither of them feels like glass. The back feels (and sounds, if you tap it with a fingernail) like a hard polymer/plastic; is that what it is?
Thanks!
time_lord2004 said:
Hi I got my U12+ just last friday. It wasn't until a couple of days later that I noticed what look like dirty smudges on the back of the phone, and they won't come off. At some angles the phone looks beautifully shiney, but at a few angles, these smudges really show up, some around the camera, around most edges, and a strange 1cm square to the bottom-right of the c (i.e near the htc logo).
I bought the phone from a main street retailer; the box was shrink-wrapped, everything inside it pristine, earphones all unopened, etc, so it does not seem to have been tampered with.
So I wonder if this is just some sloppy manufacturing? I've got two photos, one where I have highlighted with a yellow line the areas that I'm talking about. (And the red line is a reflection of my htc 10 I took the photo with; sorry about the spotlight reflection.) The smudges look more obvious when holding the phone (i.e worse than I can show in the photo).
The more I look at it, the more it makes me think this is from excess glue or sealant around the camera area; and along the sides, looks like it's where they've wiped extra glue off when they glued the back? The weirdest bit is the square mark.
I feel I'm being really fussy and would not return it just because of this (and because I'm in New Zealand, where probably very few htc are ever sold, I'd probably be in for a world of pain doing a return). But I'd like to remove the marks if possible.
Has anyone seen anything similar? Or know how to remove marks like this?
What can I use to clean the back? All the talk about this phone says 'glass front and back', but neither of them feels like glass. The back feels (and sounds, if you tap it with a fingernail) like a hard polymer/plastic; is that what it is?
Thanks!
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I've kept my back protected with ultra-clear PhantomSkinz so I wouldn't know. And it still looks absolutely gorgeous.
LibertyMonger said:
I've kept my back protected with ultra-clear PhantomSkinz so I wouldn't know. And it still looks absolutely gorgeous.
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Thanks - in fact I ordered one of these phantomskinz 2 days ago after I saw your positive reviews about it!! So I am holding you responsible
However, the smudges on my phone were already there, 'out of the box', so no chance to protect it when it started out that way...
I am hoping that this skin is going to be such a nice body hugging layer that it hides some of these blemishes.
time_lord2004 said:
Thanks - in fact I ordered one of these phantomskinz 2 days ago after I saw your positive reviews about it!! So I am holding you responsible
However, the smudges on my phone were already there, 'out of the box', so no chance to protect it when it started out that way...
I am hoping that this skin is going to be such a nice body hugging layer that it hides some of these blemishes.
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How long have you owned it? If it's before 30 days I would return it. That is not normal.
I wonder if the smudges are on the inside. Maybe from when it was assembled.
LibertyMonger said:
How long have you owned it? If it's before 30 days I would return it. That is not normal.
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Yes I am tempted to... but as mentioned in my original post, I'm at the end of the world here, I know the store does not have any more in stock... so to return it could be a right P.I.T.A. I can't be without a phone while I wait for a replacement.
I guess I'll go talk to them tomorrow.
What about the material the back is made out of? (I.e as I mentioned, it does not feel like glass to me; more like a polymer.)
If it does feel like glass to others, then I wonder if I got an early run or prototype version where instead of glass they used plastic (which could explain the marking).
Well this is very embarrassing. I'd tried various things to clean the smudges, but not used any chemicals (which is why I was wondering what it is made of).
I showed it to a workmate - without saying a word she picked up some magic cloth from the photocopier, wiped my phone... marks gone.
What the....?
I'll go back to the rock I obviously deserve to live under.
time_lord2004 said:
What about the material the back is made out of? (I.e as I mentioned, it does not feel like glass to me; more like a polymer.)
If it does feel like glass to others, then I wonder if I got an early run or prototype version where instead of glass they used plastic (which could explain the marking).
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It is definitely made of gorilla glass 3...maybe that's why it feels different. Front and back are gorilla glass 3. And if it would be plastic or so, it would be different. If you can scratch it with your finger nails or so, you will know it ?
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
time_lord2004 said:
Hi I got my U12+ just last friday. It wasn't until a couple of days later that I noticed what look like dirty smudges on the back of the phone, and they won't come off. At some angles the phone looks beautifully shiney, but at a few angles, these smudges really show up, some around the camera, around most edges, and a strange 1cm square to the bottom-right of the c (i.e near the htc logo).
I bought the phone from a main street retailer; the box was shrink-wrapped, everything inside it pristine, earphones all unopened, etc, so it does not seem to have been tampered with.
So I wonder if this is just some sloppy manufacturing? I've got two photos, one where I have highlighted with a yellow line the areas that I'm talking about. (And the red line is a reflection of my htc 10 I took the photo with; sorry about the spotlight reflection.) The smudges look more obvious when holding the phone (i.e worse than I can show in the photo).
The more I look at it, the more it makes me think this is from excess glue or sealant around the camera area; and along the sides, looks like it's where they've wiped extra glue off when they glued the back? The weirdest bit is the square mark.
I feel I'm being really fussy and would not return it just because of this (and because I'm in New Zealand, where probably very few htc are ever sold, I'd probably be in for a world of pain doing a return). But I'd like to remove the marks if possible.
Has anyone seen anything similar? Or know how to remove marks like this?
What can I use to clean the back? All the talk about this phone says 'glass front and back', but neither of them feels like glass. The back feels (and sounds, if you tap it with a fingernail) like a hard polymer/plastic; is that what it is?
Thanks!
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Looks like the glass coating problem that I had with the U11. Contacted customer support, and they offered me a replacement device. Started off with the sapphire blue, exchanged for a solar red.
Luckily have had no such problems with my translucent blue U12 yet.

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