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SCREEN COLOR VARIATIONS among galaxy S line?

Its strange but noticed that my phones whit coloring looks a little more greenish than my.friends vibrant. And then i compared my captivate to my gfs and here whites r more white colored like my friend.
I don't get it, did a lot if the models come with different screens that display differently?
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....

iamcombat said:
The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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It has a Super AMOLED screen...

The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one...
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seems like someone needs a little more research
wait what no the whole entire galaxy s line has super amoled hmm its maybe the tint thats changed a little

A Super ALOMED screen is still AMOLED.
Anyway, just because it is the same model screen doesn't mean there are not variations in the mfg process that could cause slight differences. With the amount of screens that they are pushing out I am sure they are using equivelent components that may not be exactly the same.
Also depending on the allowed tollerances, 2 screen with slighly different temperature ratings could both still pass QA.
Personally my screen is very cold, whites tend to have a slight tint of blue to them. I prefer warmer displays but the SAMOLED is too nice to ignore even if the picture is cold.

It's possible that the screens are going through a rapid break-in process and the screens look different because they have been used different amounts.
Or it could just be differences within manufacturing tolerances.

Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....

screen is fine, got mine on launch day,,,im sooooo loving this phone,i was using omnia2....

SlimJ87D said:
Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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Only samsung makes the the screen for this phone.

iamcombat said:
That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
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AT&T says a lot of things.
The entire Galaxy S line up has Samsung's "Super AMOLED" screen.
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Only samsung makes the the screen for this phone.
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They may make the screen, but that doesn't mean they make all the materials used to manufacture the screen.

Different materials cause wider manufacturing tolerances. It's not different manufacturers favoring one color over another in this situation.

I really wish there could be a straight answer instead of speculating why our phones are cooler and warmer in color. I mean the screen still looks freakin great, but i wonder if there is a way to manipulate it through software.
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I agree. I would love it if phones finally started letting you adjust color temperature like computers.

My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...

Amoled said:
My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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There is no such thing as real white when it comes to light (what your screen is putting out). I would prefer the screen to be warmer, but it is still white.
For more information look up color temperature.

The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.

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The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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That's interesting,i hope someone is working on color temperature too.

Somebody else mentioned it but "manufacturer tolerance" is what causes this. It would be possible to make them all exactly the same, but the costs of the device would go up significantly. Usually the difference is so minute that most people never notice.
You see the same thing with mass produced digital projectors and tvs. If you were to take 10 new projectors of the same model and line them up side by side you would find not all the pictures were exactly the same. Due to manufacturer tolerance some may be slightly brighter or dimmer and colors may be a little more vibrant on another.

Blue Tint
Yes, Super Amoleds are coming in all forms of Tint. Some are lucky to get nice warm whites. Other people get green, blue, greenish blue, or even yellow tints.
maybe even pink tint like the amoled on zune hd
SAMSUNG GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!

Color calibration?

Is there any way to change the color calibration on the display? I want to raise the blue levels because I'm a bigger fan of a cool color tone and the whites on the g2x are more than an off white. (compared to my mt4g with good lcd where whites are bright white)
I have heard about the color calibration hack for the nexus one but I don't know if it'll work on the leaded gingerbread ROM from paul o'brien

If you don't know what I'm talking about go to the color settings on your computer monitor or tv and change from "cool" to "normal". The g2x is more like the normal setting while i like the cool setting better.

I posted a link already. There is a calibration tool in the Nexus One forums that you can use. I don't think the G2x needs it though. Mine looks natural.

player911 said:
I posted a link already. There is a calibration tool in the Nexus One forums that you can use. I don't think the G2x needs it though. Mine looks natural.
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I'm fine with all the colors except for white, I'm a bigger fan of a more bluish white like on the iphone.
I'll give the nexus one thing a try but i think a bunch of people who tried it on the g2x it force closed. Not sure about the leaked gb rom though so I'll try it and report back

the flash aborted because it says amend scripting is no longer supported since android 1.5?

I also tried installing both apk's and they both force close when I try to do anything

pretty sure you have to be on cm7 for it to work

Is it just my specific device or are the whites on this phone not really true white but more like off-white? If u compare it to the mytouch 4g with good lcd there's a big difference. Although this device does have truer blacks.
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Every LCD is different. Even if the phones are the same model. Mine has a bit of a red tint when showing white but its only noticeable if I look at it next to my Vibrant.

regP said:
Every LCD is different. Even if the phones are the same model. Mine has a bit of a red tint when showing white but its only noticeable if I look at it next to my Vibrant.
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I know different phones have different color tones but I just wanted to know if it was just my device where whites weren't true white because some people have been talking about a yellow or orange tint. I'm expecting a replacement phone to arrive next week so I guess I'll do a comparison when it arrives.

Looks fine to me, but really I'm all about resolution. Colors can vary and sounds can be medium quality and I probably won't notice a difference.

xdmds said:
I know different phones have different color tones but I just wanted to know if it was just my device where whites weren't true white because some people have been talking about a yellow or orange tint. I'm expecting a replacement phone to arrive next week so I guess I'll do a comparison when it arrives.
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I answered that.
Every LCD is different. Even if the phones are the same model. Mine has a bit of a red tint when showing white but its only noticeable if I look at it next to my Vibrant.
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Meaning if you took a number of G2x and put them side by side none of them would be completely identical. So its not just you that has a slightly off screen.

regP said:
I answered that.
Meaning if you took a number of G2x and put them side by side none of them would be completely identical. So its not just you that has a slightly off screen.
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Well thats why I want to change the color settings because the high levels of red in the whites are really bothering me.

[Q] Screen pinkness (is mine normal?)

Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!

Oh that's really pink! Will check mine when it finishes the first round charging.

I would say this isn't normal. On amoled Displays white areas appear a bit blueish or grey. But this red/pink looks unnormal
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no, this doesn't look normal. But the thin red and green outlines are caused by the pentile-matrix, this is normal.

Just download Screen Adjuster and increase blue and green values a bit and your red screen will be gone

That's a v. useful app! It's definitely taken the edge off (green & blue at +5), but I'll still pursue a replacement as the contrast has taken a bit of a hit now.
(I'm such a perfectionist!)

Fondue said:
Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...

Thiesen said:
I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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Well, when I say "see" I meant on their own One S rather than on my screenshot.

I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?

djpc said:
I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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encho said:
Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...

That's looking odd definitely. Let us know if the replacement is better.
I haven't noticed any issue on mine
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mine screen is definitely on the warm side of things (meaning the whites are yellow'ish). seeing how One X has a yellow tint issue (different screen manufacturers involved it seems) and you're playing a screen lottery i wonder if One S is the same. slightly warmer screens is not an issue per se but a strong yellow tint definitely effects the overall brightness and sharpness. i would love to compare different units in store to see if One S with cooler screens actually exist.
the pink tint is a straight up defect, however.

Fondue said:
Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
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This probably won't help you. It won't hurt I guess, but this is something that can be worked out with a software solution. The SGS had something called Voodoo Colors, and I'm assuming that at some point that'll make it to the One S, as it's an AMOLED device as well. The colors changing on low brightness is one of the characteristics of an AMOLED screen.
As a poster above recommended, install that tool and set adjust the values for now. In due time, this'll be worked out. HTC just didnt do a great job with their color profile.

Can burn-in be removed with apps (e.g. Display Tester)?

Hey everyone, I bought my HTC One S used, and at a discounted price because of screen burn-in. The burn-in isn't noticeable at higher brightness settings, but when there is a dark background applied, or when the backlight is dim, you can clearly see burned in areas.
Has anyone had any success using any burn-in removal techniques with apps like Display Tester?
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester&hl=en)
Just realized this should've been in the Q&A section.. woops!

spartanerik said:
Hey everyone, I bought my HTC One S used, and at a discounted price because of screen burn-in. The burn-in isn't noticeable at higher brightness settings, but when there is a dark background applied, or when the backlight is dim, you can clearly see burned in areas.
Has anyone had any success using any burn-in removal techniques with apps like Display Tester?
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester&hl=en)
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What exactly is screen burn-in? Is it the same as the screen has different color depending on what angle you are looking at it? My experience is when i look directly on my screen, it show some yellowish in white background, but when i tilt it forward or backward, the white becomes white with no yellowish color. And when i turn it sideways it become pinkish.. do you think my screen is busted? Or is it what you call the screen burn-in?
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angeloalonzo01 said:
What exactly is screen burn-in? Is it the same as the screen has different color depending on what angle you are looking at it? My experience is when i look directly on my screen, it show some yellowish in white background, but when i tilt it forward or backward, the white becomes white with no yellowish color. And when i turn it sideways it become pinkish.. do you think my screen is busted? Or is it what you call the screen burn-in?
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Yeah, exactly how you described it. Looks yellowish/orange depending on the background
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/4147471980_4e153af3bf_o.jpg
^-That's a good example of what a screen burn (or is it image retention?) looks like. Found this image on Google just for the purpose of an example, it's clearly not from an HTC One S haha
My friend who uses the HTC Sense clock has developed minor screen burn from having the clock widget in the same place since day one of his phone

spartanerik said:
Yeah, exactly how you described it. Looks yellowish/orange depending on the background
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/4147471980_4e153af3bf_o.jpg
^-That's a good example of what a screen burn (or is it image retention?) looks like. Found this image on Google just for the purpose of an example, it's clearly not from an HTC One S haha
My friend who uses the HTC Sense clock has developed minor screen burn from having the clock widget in the same place since day one of his phone
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But i don't have that kind of burn-in like in the picture.. the yellowish color i see is in the whole screen but in the picture you post ia only a part of the screen is having the yellowish patches..
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TC is probably referring to ghosting. Kinda like
http://www.pixeltuneup.com/images/screenburn.jpg
or to a lessor extend but more common
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5523/2005fpwsw2.jpg
Notice the faint icons? As to fixing it, I don't believe there is a way other than replacing the screen. It happens when an image is displayed without movement. It sort of "burns" into the screen, and when viewing something else, its slightly visible, thus "ghosting"
As for the yellow tint you see in the whole screen, I believe some displays are just like that.

Hgaara said:
TC is probably referring to ghosting. Kinda like
http://www.pixeltuneup.com/images/screenburn.jpg
or to a lessor extend but more common
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5523/2005fpwsw2.jpg
Notice the faint icons? As to fixing it, I don't believe there is a way other than replacing the screen. It happens when an image is displayed without movement. It sort of "burns" into the screen, and when viewing something else, its slightly visible, thus "ghosting"
As for the yellow tint you see in the whole screen, I believe some displays are just like that.
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Thank you for the explanation.. but i don't have that ghosting nor the faint icons.. i only experience the different colors when viewing in different angles, i just hate it, nothing else, but why is that?
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angeloalonzo01 said:
Thank you for the explanation.. but i don't have that ghosting nor the faint icons.. i only experience the different colors when viewing in different angles, i just hate it, nothing else, but why is that?
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tbh i wonder what would happen if you attempted to burn in the color inverted (dont do it, lol)
But most likely a new screen, which isn't too expensive.
If you had a big enough discount, it'd be no problem.

Color Mode? New Feature

So I have no idea how no one has noticed or mentioned about this feature in the new Moto X Pure Edition but it has a new feature under display settings called "Color Mode" where you can now choose between "normal" and "vibrant" screen colors.
Since they moved this year from AMOLED to TFT LCD this year I guess they wanted to give us an option to choose from

Here is the phone

Do you see a big difference between the two? Which do you prefer? My pure was delivered this morning but I'm away and won't get it till Monday ?

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Here is the phone
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Is that the dark teal?
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It comes on Vibrant as default. At first, when I changed it to normal, it looked a little flat, but after a while I could live with it. But I left it on vibrant anyways, coming from saturated amoled screens in the past, I'm pretty much used to it.

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Is that the dark teal?
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yes it is, with a silver accent

toyanucci said:
Do you see a big difference between the two? Which do you prefer? My pure was delivered this morning but I'm away and won't get it till Monday
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Normal looks a little flat and less attractive than the vibrant setting in my opinion

Vibrant uses more battery I believe.
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sdelcegno said:
Vibrant uses more battery I believe.
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I don't believe so
but I will let you know after a day or two of switching between modes

jrdnkasparek said:
yes it is, with a silver accent
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I got that with silver and white front too. Is that a blue bumper around the edges?
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I got that with silver and white front too. Is that a blue bumper around the edges?
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I do not have any bumper on my phone. That is a pic straight out of the box

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I got that with silver and white front too. Is that a blue bumper around the edges?
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He has the black/dark trim

So I will say after switching between modes for the past couple days, on and off. Vibrant mode is definitely the better color mode. With normal the colors seem more washed out and whiter, while vibrant makes the colors darker and less white, while at the same time making the whites whiter(if that makes sense)

jrdnkasparek said:
So I will say after switching between modes for the past couple days, on and off. Vibrant mode is definitely the better color mode. With normal the colors seem more washed out and whiter, while vibrant makes the colors darker and less white, while at the same time making the whites whiter(if that makes sense)
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Depends on what your definition of better is. The normal mode provides more accurate colors than vibrant mode, nearly matching my 2015 MacBook Pro. Most people are just used to oversaturated screens, especially those coming from AMOLED screens, so they will probably prefer the vibrant mode. I'm just glad Motorola gave us the option because everyone has their own preference between accurate and sexy and this way we can all be happy.

This is true, I will agree with you there

I prefer more accurate color reproduction within the limits of the display technology. My eyes hurt when dealing with high contrast screens. But superficially, "vibrant" will seem better, just like how people will gravitate towards the TVs in a store with the higher contrast and brighter colors even if it's just a setting. Having had a couple TVs professionally calibrated in the past, I'm not into artificially adding more color than exists normally. Vibrant probably crushes blacks too.

Saturated just has more punch and seems more contrasty. I refer color accuracy. The blacks are probably blacker on normal mode, just the whites don't get as bright so the blacks lose their depth. Speaking from experience in general, and not having moto x in hand experience.

cronoc said:
I prefer more accurate color reproduction within the limits of the display technology. My eyes hurt when dealing with high contrast screens. But superficially, "vibrant" will seem better, just like how people will gravitate towards the TVs in a store with the higher contrast and brighter colors even if it's just a setting. Having had a couple TVs professionally calibrated in the past, I'm not into artificially adding more color than exists normally. Vibrant probably crushes blacks too.
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Couldn't agree more....
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