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Its strange but noticed that my phones whit coloring looks a little more greenish than my.friends vibrant. And then i compared my captivate to my gfs and here whites r more white colored like my friend.
I don't get it, did a lot if the models come with different screens that display differently?
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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It has a Super AMOLED screen...
The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one...
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seems like someone needs a little more research
wait what no the whole entire galaxy s line has super amoled hmm its maybe the tint thats changed a little
A Super ALOMED screen is still AMOLED.
Anyway, just because it is the same model screen doesn't mean there are not variations in the mfg process that could cause slight differences. With the amount of screens that they are pushing out I am sure they are using equivelent components that may not be exactly the same.
Also depending on the allowed tollerances, 2 screen with slighly different temperature ratings could both still pass QA.
Personally my screen is very cold, whites tend to have a slight tint of blue to them. I prefer warmer displays but the SAMOLED is too nice to ignore even if the picture is cold.
It's possible that the screens are going through a rapid break-in process and the screens look different because they have been used different amounts.
Or it could just be differences within manufacturing tolerances.
Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
screen is fine, got mine on launch day,,,im sooooo loving this phone,i was using omnia2....
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Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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Only samsung makes the the screen for this phone.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
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AT&T says a lot of things.
The entire Galaxy S line up has Samsung's "Super AMOLED" screen.
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They may make the screen, but that doesn't mean they make all the materials used to manufacture the screen.
Different materials cause wider manufacturing tolerances. It's not different manufacturers favoring one color over another in this situation.
I really wish there could be a straight answer instead of speculating why our phones are cooler and warmer in color. I mean the screen still looks freakin great, but i wonder if there is a way to manipulate it through software.
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I agree. I would love it if phones finally started letting you adjust color temperature like computers.
My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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There is no such thing as real white when it comes to light (what your screen is putting out). I would prefer the screen to be warmer, but it is still white.
For more information look up color temperature.
The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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That's interesting,i hope someone is working on color temperature too.
Somebody else mentioned it but "manufacturer tolerance" is what causes this. It would be possible to make them all exactly the same, but the costs of the device would go up significantly. Usually the difference is so minute that most people never notice.
You see the same thing with mass produced digital projectors and tvs. If you were to take 10 new projectors of the same model and line them up side by side you would find not all the pictures were exactly the same. Due to manufacturer tolerance some may be slightly brighter or dimmer and colors may be a little more vibrant on another.
Blue Tint
Yes, Super Amoleds are coming in all forms of Tint. Some are lucky to get nice warm whites. Other people get green, blue, greenish blue, or even yellow tints.
maybe even pink tint like the amoled on zune hd
SAMSUNG GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!
Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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You can't do this on any android phone, rooted or not. Could you take a picture or maybe tell tmobile your problem, it might be an actual lcd problem.
Yeah I thought that I was the only one. Especially on this site when you view it from your mobile browser, the brown XDA heading is too bright and faded
I noticed it when I got my wife a MT4g. On her phone the colors are slightly more saturated and the blacks are slightly darker also. It is kinda bothering me now.
wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
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wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
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Maybe its related to the screen being used in the phone.
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Im going to the tmo store tommorow hopefully they can help. They will probably look at me crazy.
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My wife is experienceing this as well. She went to look for the night time bedside clock app and found when the app turned the brightness down to 6 the entire screen went black, but at a brightness level of 7 the screen was dim, but still brighter than I would expect.
She commented on her Vibrant when the brightness was turned down it would go all the way down and have a black background, not a washed out dim gray background.
Hopefully there will be a fix coming.
I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
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I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
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I know exactly what you mean, the blacks look grey and the reds look pink.
I think there is something wrong with the contrast balance in the software somehow, because it does seem like a nice screen, but those are just my thoughts.
I sincerely hope that this is the case. If so, perhaps some tweaking can be done in the settings, mch like, but nothng at all like, the registry settings change in WinMo phone, wherein the colors/contrast could be adjusted by assigning different numbers.
I realize that there is a huge difference between android and WinMo registry tweaks. But it's hard to believe they would simply included an inferior screen to go along with so many other hardware improvements.
its not an amoled display guys, it's never going to be completely black or have as high a contrast ratio as the nexus or vibrant.
Yeah, I know what kind of screen it is, and I know how others look in comparison, my point is though, my Mytouch3G had better colors. It just seems like something could be done via software.
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It has only been out a couple of weeks, I would give it some time and everyone complain a little to T-Mobile and hopefully they can add it to a future OTA update.
I only had the MT4G for a night before returning it for a replacement (which is still in the mail), but I agree: The screen looked very washed out. It was so bad that I am now considering keeping my Vibrant.
I am not asking for SuperAMOLED-like quality, but something average would be nice... not low quality crap.
I'm starting to think there's production issues. The very first 2 units I saw had the washed out look. I saw one today that seemed fine. I went thru the menus and changed the backgrounds. Everything seemed much better on this one.
I wish I could compare them side by side, but these were in 2 different stores.
Thoughts?
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I had been weary about the screen ever since I got mine last Wednesday. From reading reviews talking about how great the screen looked, and then mine was kinda... blah. First words in my mind when I turned it on was how washed out some of the colors looked.
I took mine back to T-Mobile tonight and swapped it out for a new and I have to say that there's a huge difference. Some of the colors are still a little off, but it looks like it's the app's icon and not the screen itself. Compare the newest YouTube app's red to the TasKiller's red, for instance.
Now to wait on the OTA so I can re-root this thing and clean it off.
I wish I had something to compare mine to. I went to the store, thinking I would compare mine to one of theirs. But it was a bust; as the screen looked exactly the same. So either mine is as good as the replacement you got, but just pales in comparison to the Nexus. Or it's washed out, the one in the store is washed out, and I'm still at square one. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to tell.
I took my MT4G back after running the Asphalt demo next to an Epic and Droid X. The colors were totally faded out and missing details seen on the other devices. The Epic is over-saturated and the X seems to split the difference, not to mention the size is awesome.
Hmm...
Well, being with T-mo, neither of those other two is an option for me. But, I'm thinking about it, and I'm starting to think our phones only seem to pale in comparison.
What I mean is, side by side, yes, they seem to be less-than-stellar. But when used on their own, they seem to be pretty alright... though obviously not as good as what our minds recall the others being.
If you look at a 60hz 1080p tv side by side with a 120hz edge-lit LED tv, yes, the original would look tame. But that's not to say that it doesn't look great on it's own.
I exchanged my Nexus S for a new one. One thing I have noticed so far is that the blacks don't seem AS dark on the new one as they did on the previous one.
For example, pressing menu from the main screen you get that little popup of black options like wallpaper, system etc...
On my previous device these options were very dark black, on the new one they are somewhat transparent yet still black. Hard to explain I guess but it's a noticeable difference between the too.
I'm not totally sure yet but I think the whites are whiter also.
I wonder which of the phones has the intended look... the dark black or the somewhat transparent black.
wierd.. all the us phones suppose to come with samoled... all the same screen
could be your brightness setting, i have a gingerbread theme on my nexus one and on lower brightness the menu looks solid black, but on others you can see that it's transparent. also depends on the background as well.
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I exchanged my Nexus S for a new one. One thing I have noticed so far is that the blacks don't seem AS dark on the new one as they did on the previous one.
For example, pressing menu from the main screen you get that little popup of black options like wallpaper, system etc...
On my previous device these options were very dark black, on the new one they are somewhat transparent yet still black. Hard to explain I guess but it's a noticeable difference between the too.
I'm not totally sure yet but I think the whites are whiter also.
I wonder which of the phones has the intended look... the dark black or the somewhat transparent black.
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Yup. You'll find the tolerances for the screens to be quite low. I've looked at and handled quite a few NS and the screens have been different on every one of them.
As long as your screen doesn't have a yellow tint whilst auto brightness is enabled, you're good.
I remember reading somewhere that some Nexus S phones will ship with SLCD screens instead.
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I remember reading somewhere that some Nexus S phones will ship with SLCD screens instead.
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Yeh that will be for the Russian and maybe other markets if/when they launch there early next year.
I had to swap out my second NS for the screen. The last one had a real bad yellow tint to it. When put side by side the new one looked great. Typical issues I suppose. Its interesting to have these little issues with the phone when the Galaxy S line as a whole has been solid aside from reports of GPS issues.
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I exchanged my Nexus S for a new one. One thing I have noticed so far is that the blacks don't seem AS dark on the new one as they did on the previous one.
For example, pressing menu from the main screen you get that little popup of black options like wallpaper, system etc...
On my previous device these options were very dark black, on the new one they are somewhat transparent yet still black. Hard to explain I guess but it's a noticeable difference between the too.
I'm not totally sure yet but I think the whites are whiter also.
I wonder which of the phones has the intended look... the dark black or the somewhat transparent black.
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Have you tried adjusting the brightness level on the display? Menu/Settings/Display
Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
Oh that's really pink! Will check mine when it finishes the first round charging.
I would say this isn't normal. On amoled Displays white areas appear a bit blueish or grey. But this red/pink looks unnormal
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no, this doesn't look normal. But the thin red and green outlines are caused by the pentile-matrix, this is normal.
Just download Screen Adjuster and increase blue and green values a bit and your red screen will be gone
That's a v. useful app! It's definitely taken the edge off (green & blue at +5), but I'll still pursue a replacement as the contrast has taken a bit of a hit now.
(I'm such a perfectionist!)
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Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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Well, when I say "see" I meant on their own One S rather than on my screenshot.
I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
That's looking odd definitely. Let us know if the replacement is better.
I haven't noticed any issue on mine
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mine screen is definitely on the warm side of things (meaning the whites are yellow'ish). seeing how One X has a yellow tint issue (different screen manufacturers involved it seems) and you're playing a screen lottery i wonder if One S is the same. slightly warmer screens is not an issue per se but a strong yellow tint definitely effects the overall brightness and sharpness. i would love to compare different units in store to see if One S with cooler screens actually exist.
the pink tint is a straight up defect, however.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
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This probably won't help you. It won't hurt I guess, but this is something that can be worked out with a software solution. The SGS had something called Voodoo Colors, and I'm assuming that at some point that'll make it to the One S, as it's an AMOLED device as well. The colors changing on low brightness is one of the characteristics of an AMOLED screen.
As a poster above recommended, install that tool and set adjust the values for now. In due time, this'll be worked out. HTC just didnt do a great job with their color profile.
So I have no idea how no one has noticed or mentioned about this feature in the new Moto X Pure Edition but it has a new feature under display settings called "Color Mode" where you can now choose between "normal" and "vibrant" screen colors.
Since they moved this year from AMOLED to TFT LCD this year I guess they wanted to give us an option to choose from
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Do you see a big difference between the two? Which do you prefer? My pure was delivered this morning but I'm away and won't get it till Monday ?
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Is that the dark teal?
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It comes on Vibrant as default. At first, when I changed it to normal, it looked a little flat, but after a while I could live with it. But I left it on vibrant anyways, coming from saturated amoled screens in the past, I'm pretty much used to it.
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Is that the dark teal?
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yes it is, with a silver accent
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Do you see a big difference between the two? Which do you prefer? My pure was delivered this morning but I'm away and won't get it till Monday
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Normal looks a little flat and less attractive than the vibrant setting in my opinion
Vibrant uses more battery I believe.
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Vibrant uses more battery I believe.
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I don't believe so
but I will let you know after a day or two of switching between modes
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yes it is, with a silver accent
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I got that with silver and white front too. Is that a blue bumper around the edges?
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I got that with silver and white front too. Is that a blue bumper around the edges?
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I do not have any bumper on my phone. That is a pic straight out of the box
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I got that with silver and white front too. Is that a blue bumper around the edges?
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He has the black/dark trim
So I will say after switching between modes for the past couple days, on and off. Vibrant mode is definitely the better color mode. With normal the colors seem more washed out and whiter, while vibrant makes the colors darker and less white, while at the same time making the whites whiter(if that makes sense)
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So I will say after switching between modes for the past couple days, on and off. Vibrant mode is definitely the better color mode. With normal the colors seem more washed out and whiter, while vibrant makes the colors darker and less white, while at the same time making the whites whiter(if that makes sense)
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Depends on what your definition of better is. The normal mode provides more accurate colors than vibrant mode, nearly matching my 2015 MacBook Pro. Most people are just used to oversaturated screens, especially those coming from AMOLED screens, so they will probably prefer the vibrant mode. I'm just glad Motorola gave us the option because everyone has their own preference between accurate and sexy and this way we can all be happy.
This is true, I will agree with you there
I prefer more accurate color reproduction within the limits of the display technology. My eyes hurt when dealing with high contrast screens. But superficially, "vibrant" will seem better, just like how people will gravitate towards the TVs in a store with the higher contrast and brighter colors even if it's just a setting. Having had a couple TVs professionally calibrated in the past, I'm not into artificially adding more color than exists normally. Vibrant probably crushes blacks too.
Saturated just has more punch and seems more contrasty. I refer color accuracy. The blacks are probably blacker on normal mode, just the whites don't get as bright so the blacks lose their depth. Speaking from experience in general, and not having moto x in hand experience.
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I prefer more accurate color reproduction within the limits of the display technology. My eyes hurt when dealing with high contrast screens. But superficially, "vibrant" will seem better, just like how people will gravitate towards the TVs in a store with the higher contrast and brighter colors even if it's just a setting. Having had a couple TVs professionally calibrated in the past, I'm not into artificially adding more color than exists normally. Vibrant probably crushes blacks too.
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Couldn't agree more....
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