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G Tablet coming tomorrow...would like to get some things set straight. Thanks.

Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.

Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...

"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.

Neoprimal said:
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.

I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.

Sprdtyf350 said:
The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update

hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..

dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.

hogasswild said:
The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning

I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!

hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.

rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing

I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.

Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...

Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.

ima_UNC_fan said:
...famous last words...
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will

I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.

Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom

Nextbook Premium 9

Has anyone heard of the Nextbook Premium 9? I am trying to root it, but have been unsuccessful with all of the current rooting tools (z4root, Androot etc) and have been searching the internet for anyone who has found a successful method for rooting.
any help would be greatly appreciated.

Trying to root the nextbook premium 9 tablet
HEY BRO HOW ARE YOU MY NAME IS CLAY I AM IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE REAL ANDROID MARKET BUT IT SEEMS THE ONLY WAY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS BY ROOTING THE TABLET SO I HAVE BEEN TEARING THE WEB APART TRYING TO FIND ROOT FOR THIS BAD BOY ANY WHO I DID FIND A COUPLE THINGS YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LIKE MOBILES24.COM ITS A APP STORE JUST SIGN UP AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ANY APP THE HAVE FOR ANDROID AND YOU CAN GO TO SYNDICATE APPS.COM AMD DOWNLOAD ICS 4.0 LAUNCHER ITS PRETTY AWESOME JUST WHEN YOU GOOGLE IT AND IT GIVES YOU THE SELECTION LIST OF WEB SITES CLICK LAUNCHER ON THE VERY FIRST ONE AFTER THAT CLICK ON RELEASES AND CLICK THE BOTTOM CHOICE ICS 4.0 ITS A STABLE BUILD AND COOL TO MESS WITH ON YOUR TABLET JUST FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS FOR DOWNLOADING IT I HOPE YOU LIKE OH YEAH IT IS A APK DOWNLOAD SO ITS EASY TO INSTALL ONCE YOU HAVE GO TO LAUNCHER SETTINGS AND ADJUST THE WAY YOU SEE FIT BUT BAK TO THE PROBLEM AT HAND ROOTING OUR TABLET IVE TRYED EVERYTHING YOU LISTED AS WELL AND NO LUCK PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN AND EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU FIGURE A WAY TO GET ROOTED AND OR INSTALL THE ANDROID MARKET THANKS BRO AND GOD BLESS YOU

Is there any hope for rooting the Nextbook Premium 9?
I have a new Nextbook Premium 9, and it has been limited very tightly by Efun, and I cannot find where anyone that has posted on the Internet has managed to root it. The problem is the tight memory limitations (kills me having that much free space on the device and no access to it).
I have done all that I know to do: add a 32gb micro-sdcard, and used ADB to install some stubborn apks, and set the preferred target of installations and data to the sdcard. I moved everything over that can be moved (it has Android 2.3.1). I cannot fit the apps that I really need all at the same time. I can uninstall and reinstall from the backups on the card... a pain, and it limits its usefulness.
Not having Market is a pain, but I can live with that with help from Amazon and others. But it doesn't do me a lot of good as tightly locked down as it is. I have an Onda VX610W coming (if DHL ever decides to move it out of Hong Kong to me) with ICS already installed, but its too small for what I am using the NextbookP9 to do. I need the Nextbook for my presentations. It has the larger screen, and I just need it.
Please, is there anyone who can help me or who can point me in the right direction. I need help with this one. Thanks in advance.
Jim aka FireStorm

Simular situation. A friend tried to root his with the 8p's root. While it worked the touchscreen doesnt work.
So how do I go about figuring out what driver I should compile and throw in the image?

I am still looking for a way to root the Nextbook Premium 9
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim

firestorm005 said:
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
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I have a rooted android running on the 9P ... just need touchscreen drivers for it

When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
UPDATE: For some reason, the permissions on this page suddenly would not let me post a reply, which I really need to do. Finless on Freaktab.com has produced a working custom rooted rom for the NEXTBOOK PREMIUM 9. He also included the original stock rom in case of emergencies. I have not tried it, but according to others, it works. I just finished downloading the files and will try it tomorrow after a nap.
I request permission to post a new reply in this thread. If you will let me, I will post a link to the thread found on Freaktabs that has the solution. I will first try out the ROM myself though. I was about to sell this thing to a friend in frustration.
It has such a beautiful display, I think I'll keep it with the 1gb USER APP space and access to Google Play that he gave it. He said he could do more, but 1 gb will make the thing workable... especially since he got rid of the bloatware bogging it down. But there is hope for the Premium9 users now. I sent tech support at Nextbook an inquiry about upgrades to ICS as there was some real indication of an upgrade. They said no plans were in the works for upgrading the very bogged down unrooted Gingerbread ROM it comes with. GET THIS: they suggested that I buy one of their "new" series of tablets (like... 5 months after the Premiums hit the market) instead. Hey, just forget the $200 or so dollar investment and buy a newer one with ICS from us... also unrooted. No thank you. I have an Archos on the way and own an Onda. I don't think I want another unrooted bogged down tablet from Nextbook after just getting this one. Except for having 4gb instead of 8gb memory, the hardware in the thing is pretty sound. But it was the locked down rom that made it a misery to use. If it works out, I will post the results.

firestorm005 said:
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
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Certinally. Because this was passed to me I was responsible for returning a working device TODAY so I ended up buying a brand new one >.>

Any news regarding this Nextbook Premium 9 root + market? I will receive one this week but... it seems that I will regret having it...
It would be awsome if some dev put his hands on one...

I also own a Next9P and also would like option of rooting this device... Are there any devs. mildly interested in working on this... I have some limited funds if it would help.
Sent from my NXM908HC using xda premium

Me too please....
Just tring to keep this topic alive as I would like to see developement on this platform myself. I got my hands one one of these lately.
I have managed to get a rom dump of the Nextbook Next9 NXM908HC
The romdump (done through adb) reported successful dump all exept config.gz where I wound up with 0 bytes. I read over there that the custom rom for the Next8p runs on the 9p but drivers are wrong for the digitizer on the 9p.
Here is a link for the dump on the Next9 NXM908HC if there are any takers for making a custom rom out of it.
http://isurf2.com/droidwork/next9/
A cyanogenmod7 version for it would be much appreciated, but I wont hold my breath.
--Brink

thanks for the dump. I will see what I can do over the next week.

If someone knows how to root...
If someone knew how to root this tablet maybe I could get a dump with the config.gz intact.

For those looking for rooted nextbook9
Head on over to freaktab.com. A fella that goes by Finless (administrator) AKA Bob has done us all a great service by putting together a rooted, debloated nextbook9 ROM.
I have tested it on my nextbook9 and found that it works.
BTW: When he says debloated he means it. This is positively the most stripped down ROM I have ever seen and I've been flashing custom builds since the windows mobile6 days.
If you found this information useful, don't forget to click the thanks button.
--Brink
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Inside the custom rom found on that page at freaktab.com look for app injector. This takes care of the too stripped down to be usefull. With that you can add the market (Play Store) gapps and the other apps that come with the stock rom.
--Brink

I tried the ROM from Freaktab and it worked great. My 9P is rooted, I have the full android market. The ROM utilizes more memory, boots faster, and seems to run apps faster. What more can you ask for?!
So go to the link posted by Brinkley... Oh and BTW, thanks Brinkley, I followed the link from your post and that is why my P9 is now rooted.
Cheers, TooSlow

the freaktab rom is ginger not ics is there a root/debloat rom for ics ?

I have the Nextbook P10SE. I just flashed a few different ROMS for it, including a JB rom. only problem is, inverted screen and touch.
which of course renders it useless. Finless rom has the touch correct, but the image is rotated 180 degrees.
the JB rom found here on XDA (look for Rockchip ROM) has the screen oriented correctly but the touch is rotated 180 degrees
sigh.

try kingo root, that software does root almost every device that i know of. i have been there with a device that is unknown or limited and you cant find any thing at all, thats why i start to build my own stuff. Try kingo root that would be first step and then cwm .

I/O Issue is getting worse imho

I absolutly loved my TF 700 the last months. But it seems its getting slower and slower. Doing some slow background data transfer with 100-200kb/s and you cant work anymore. Switching between apps takes too long, the browser reacts awfully and every couple of seconds the "would you like to close the app?" screen.
Im so pissed right now. Is Asus ever going to remove the Issue and the awfully black stripe on the screen?
If I could I would return the tablet but I have to stick with it...
Can u install the clearmod without changing the bootloader? Can u still recieve updates? If yes I will try that if nothing changes till new year.
TO ASUS: F*** you!
UPDATE:
Yes I did factory reset, wipe and exchanged the tablet for mechanical problems. This is a major problem with most tablets.

usern ameisval idandnot said:
I absolutly loved my TF 700 the last months. But it seems its getting slower and slower. Doing some slow background data transfer with 100-200kb/s and you cant work anymore. Switching between apps takes too long, the browser reacts awfully and every couple of seconds the "would you like to close the app?" screen.
Im so pissed right now. Is Asus ever going to remove the Issue and the awfully black stripe on the screen?
If I could I would return the tablet but I have to stick with it...
Can u install the clearmod without changing the bootloader?
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Nope.
Can u still recieve updates?
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Nope
If yes I will try that if nothing changes till new year.
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What makes you think it will?
TO ASUS: F*** you!
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When referring to stock shipping state: slightly agreed.
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Yes I did factory reset, wipe and exchanged the tablet for mechanical problems. This is a major problem with most tablets.
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Agreed. Do yourself a favor and unlock the 700, and install CleanROM. World of difference, and only minor risk involved. Really!

I agree. Install cleanrom and it will be night and day. Check out the post your benchmarks thread.

Uh oh!
Another Ooooo mommy I got a boo-boo thread

Not to pi55 on people's CleanROM parade here, but a reminder that my Infinity died a sudden death after only two months on Friday. All unlocking suggestions should be appended with a 'must buy extra warranty' note, what with such awful QC in Asusland.

usern ameisval idandnot said:
I absolutly loved my TF 700 the last months. But it seems its getting slower and slower. Doing some slow background data transfer with 100-200kb/s and you cant work anymore. Switching between apps takes too long, the browser reacts awfully and every couple of seconds the "would you like to close the app?" screen.
Im so pissed right now. Is Asus ever going to remove the Issue and the awfully black stripe on the screen?
If I could I would return the tablet but I have to stick with it...
Can u install the clearmod without changing the bootloader? Can u still recieve updates? If yes I will try that if nothing changes till new year.
TO ASUS: F*** you!
UPDATE:
Yes I did factory reset, wipe and exchanged the tablet for mechanical problems. This is a major problem with most tablets.
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I had the same experience after the last update, BUT then rolled back to .30 and re-updated using the DLPKGFILE method and now things are much better. Browser still acts a little wonky now and then but it doesn't seem to be IO related as background downloads have little effect on overall performance.
I'll second the last post, while cleanrom seems to be amazing from reports, there have been too many reports of bricking trying to reboot to recovery for me to give up my Warranty.
Choice of nand aside I think this tablet is great and qc is no worse than any other tablet out there. I looked at the samsung windows 8 tab the other day and it felt like a cheap POS compared to the infinity.

So I finally installed Clean Rom with Fsync -> disabled.Stock kernel and launcher, no changes and no wipe/factory reset. Before that I was about to eat my TF700 alive
Now it feels like it is another new rocking tablet. Everything is so smooth and works so fast. Apps open in 2 seconds where it needed 5 before. Browsing works almost as fast as on my desktop pc. The new surface is much better than the one provided by Asus

But if somehow you get one that should've failed QC and you unlocked the thing...

Then just give some time to settle. Look for little defects or signs that you may of gotten a lemon before unlocking, bad screen, buttons etc.
I've only had mine for two weeks, still on the OTA 4.1 JB. Yeah its a little hicups at times, but overall i think its very smooth, games play pretty good.
I'm just waiting for a bit to make sure its stable as a rock and everything is looking good before I unlock it.

usern ameisval idandnot said:
So I finally installed Clean Rom with Fsync -> disabled.Stock kernel and launcher, no changes and no wipe/factory reset. Before that I was about to eat my TF700 alive
Now it feels like it is another new rocking tablet. Everything is so smooth and works so fast. Apps open in 2 seconds where it needed 5 before. Browsing works almost as fast as on my desktop pc. The new surface is much better than the one provided by Asus
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So CleanROM sorts out absolutely everything on the tablet? Do you need to put on the IO fix onto an SD Card as well?

It is optional. I didnt do it. If there is an offer on SD Cards I will do it later on for even more speed.

dknotty said:
So CleanROM sorts out absolutely everything on the tablet? Do you need to put on the IO fix onto an SD Card as well?
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A reply in another thread he still has the occasional lag even after using cleanrom

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what he said
_that said:
Of course that does not happen all the time, otherwise I would have thrown my TF700 out of the window already, but it happens too often to not notice. And that is already after unlocking (voiding warranty) and installing CleanROM. Trying to use some Data-to-SD solution failed because the MicroSD interface is unreliable (at least with my SanDisk 32 GB UHS-1 card) and hangs after some time or produces lots of I/O errors in the log.
Do not buy this tablet if you want a mostly problem-free device.
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I have to agree with the op...... i would add that my browser was much improved after JB but since has ground to a mind numbing lag when i first open pages. Scrolling while the page opens (and stalls) brings a FC message. Ive cleared cache, cold reboot, etc.... stock browser is still garbage. Too bad browsing is such a drag on this product. My old Mytouch 4G kicks the S**T out of this tired, tired tab.... lol, turbo-fail!
eta
I have applied the new update and i think it may have sped the situation up a bit.....that is, the lag when I load a page has lessened to some degree... not disappeared.....now we shall see if it slows down again...

:crying::crying::crying::crying:
I bought mine 1 week back with lot of hopes and expectations. I did see posts about IO issue here, but I thought it wouldn't bother me much. But I am extremely disappointed. It lags really badly whenever I try to download something. Right now, I am looking for reasons not to return it. I would have already returned it, but I don't really like going to UPS and do the shipping.
Please advice me...Should I wait hoping that Asus will fix this, or return it and get Nexus 10 or Surface? I am on the latest 4.1.1 Asus original firmware.

Yeah, if you plan on downloading something or just transferring files on/off it you better just do it and let it be. Multi tasking is impossible in those situations.
Custom ROMs change that much?

wifesabitch said:
Yeah, if you plan on downloading something or just transferring files on/off it you better just do it and let it be. Multi tasking is impossible in those situations.
Custom ROMs change that much?
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That's sad. I guess I don't have any other options.

just do it
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That's sad. I guess I don't have any other options.
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i dont know about you guys but i love my tf700 ... now!
at first, yeh i was a bit (a lot) disapointed, but now... runnin cromi and on/off with clemsyn/stock kernel it is a beast!
i have an oc'd gs2 also which is an animal... and all thanks to custom roms and tweaks and rooting!
imho: unlock,root,cromi the biatch,some d2sd action and block ads with adaway and browsing/gaming/etc is awsum!

just did it
snypa said:
i dont know about you guys but i love my tf700 ... now!
at first, yeh i was a bit (a lot) disapointed, but now... runnin cromi and on/off with clemsyn/stock kernel it is a beast!
i have an oc'd gs2 also which is an animal... and all thanks to custom roms and tweaks and rooting!
imho: unlock,root,cromi the biatch,some d2sd action and block ads with adaway and browsing/gaming/etc is awsum!
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For some reason, your post inspired me. Now, its running CROMI :highfive:
Not decided on d2sd though...

[Q] Convince me to unlock

I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.

If you feel this way, do it. But why? Are you missing apps?
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda app-developers app

Why what, why do I want to unlock it? All the reasons I just outlined, it kinds a little annoying having to wait 5 seconds for the keyboard to pop up randomly, or the little stutters and halts when you browse as the page is loading. I just don't know for sure if there are ROMs out there that will take care of these for me, or if they fix the IO issue, or if that's even the culprit at all here.
I'm also running into a really annoying friggin typing issue here where it will double press keys, and when I go to backspace, it copies and pastes the word I'm trying to delete a line above where I am. I think it's only this forum, but it renders typing on the tablet here useless.

I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.

rightonred said:
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
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when you say free of the IO issue, have you tried transferring large files to the onboard storage (not SD)? iirc it was a hardware issue so no amount of software fix is going to fix it. IO issue != stuttering when browsing

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm going through with it, I'll probably wait a bit yet just to read up some more. I'll get the SquareTrade warranty with the 40% off coupon as soon as I figure out how to get the code just as a crutch/safety net, and I'm thinking of going with CleanROM Inheritance.
So, grabbed from David's thread earlier, this is the basic process:
Unlock
Reboot
Install Goo Manger
Install TWRP recovery
Reboot into recovery
Install ROM/Gapps
{PROFIT}!?
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Is there a thread somewhere that at least has screenshots as you start loading the ROMs, because I've never done that before and would like to just see what I'm going to be looking at first.

I was trying not to add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...

Thats OK said:
I was trying not add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
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I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.

berfles said:
I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!

Thats OK said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
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Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?

berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
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You'll have to do the convincing yourself.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away?
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Depends on which browser you use. In most cases, it will improve considerably, but if you use the stock browser you can achieve the same effect with some tweaking (after rooting).
Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue?
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I hardly remove the dock. Is this a known issue??
Will the overall system be snappier?
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Yes, as this is a software issue.
Does it somehow fix the slow io?
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No, as this is hardware-related..
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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As I said, you'll have to do the convincing yourself, as that is a decision I have nothing to do with. Taking a swig of my own medicine - I unlocked at the first opportunity -- I'd say that the benefits are significant.
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berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
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Because a large minority of apps seem to have compatibility issues, causing them to force-close. Legacy reasons, in other words.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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As far as I have followed the discussions, the ST warranty has been used a few times.

rightonred said:
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update).
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That was also the main motivation for me - the big decision if I want to be forever limited to what Asus provides, but with warranty and automatic upgrades, or if I want to take full control over my own tablet, with the risk of having to pay for hardware faults.
Knowing that I could not upgrade past 9.4.5.26 without either unlocking or forever losing full control over the bootloader forced me to decide. I still waited for a few weeks, then I finally unlocked, made the nvflash backups and upgraded to stock JB. After a few days I installed CleanROM. Not all lag issues went away, but I still think the experience is better than before.

Unlocking totally worth it for me
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt

berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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I think that it's important for you to state where you live (which continent).
Because if you live in Europe, you have nothing to fear. If you unlock your device, you cannot be held responsible for hardware (/production) issues. The repair centres will always replace anything for free the first 6 months after your purchase.
In the United States customer service will help you out as well, as long as you bought the device from a somewhat bigger and respectable store.
To be honest, unlocking the device is the best thing since sliced bread. It fixed a lot of issues and I can easily get above 6500 on Quandrant on the normal mode and I get 6900+ on performance mode.
Hope this helps you out

physicsguymatt said:
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
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Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!

sbdags said:
Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
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Yeah, *we* love *your* ROM, too!

Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?

berfles said:
Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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If you got worried about the issues some people seem to have, just flash CleanROM 2.4 -- it won't be updated, but it was rock-stable. It seems that there is quite a bit of variability between our devices, as there have been lots of issues experienced by small numbers of users (sometimes even only one) that even Scott found hard to reproduce.
The riskiest thing you can do is flashing a bootloader -- even there, if done correctly, the risk is minimal, but at its highest point. Just flashing a ROM in itself doesn't carry that much of a risk at all -- you might end up with an OS that doesn't boot, but then you could always enter recovery, wipe date/factory reset and just flash an earlier version, or another ROM altogether. As long as you keep a working ROM .zip file handy for emergency flashing (I have one on my SGS2 that was amid-life ICS version of RootBox), you'll be able to save your bacon.
Oh... don't forget to get a good backup program *I'd suggest Titanium Backup Pro), and set a (preferably daily) schedule for the backups. That way, you won't lose more than the data modified since the last backup. That has worked out nicely for me the past few years.
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berfles said:
So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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Flashing a custom ROM will not make a hardware problem rear its ugly head. It would've been there before, so check for the known issues thoroughly. If OK, flash away.

Ive had my TF700 for awhile, always had it rooted but today unlocked it.
Took 10mins to get Teamwin and install liquid smooth.
I should of done this months ago, this rom let alone makes a huge difference in speed, plus the customization never ends.
DO IT

berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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If you read term and condition, Square Trade will not cover unlocked bootloader. BTW, running custom rom will eliminated ALL your issues mentioned above. Your device will be fast and smooth just like the way it should be.

ZenPad S Root achieved

all credit to social-media-concepts and vampirefo who developed the root:
this has only been tested on the Z580C model and ONLY FOR LOLLIPOP.
finally got root on my zenpad s 8. i can't say how this'll affect updates in the future, but this is done after taking the first update out of the box as of 7-19-15.
pretty much all you do is follow the info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
grab the file here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60770086&postcount=352
download intel usb drivers here: https://software.intel.com/en-us/android/articles/intel-usb-driver-for-android-devices
download the latest chainfire su: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip and copy to your device or sd card
make sure your android sdk is up-to-date.
if you happened to already install the device and the usb adb device has the yellow warning on it, just updated the device driver after installing the intel drivers. select brows my computer... let me pick... scroll down to intel and select adb device.
next verify that adb recognizes your device -> adb devices
unzip IntelAndroid-FBRL-05-16-2015-PTR and run launcher.bat
if your device is detected select T2 and press enter.
wait a good while as it reboots into recovery. you'll see an error on the launcher bat about failing b/c of too many links or something, just ignore. you device will restart and have a buncha lines of text. after about 3-5min it'll boot into CWM. install su zip and reboot (didn't need to fix su at the propt).
you may want to do a nandroid before flashing SU. i skipped it so i can't say whether it'll be successful or not, but it's better to be i case something goes wrong. i'm still w/in my return period
there you go. enjoy an adfree device or what ever you want to do with your rooted tablet!
stock image available here: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/Zenpad/Z580C/UL-P01M-WW-3.3.8.0-user.zip

Mine is now stuck on spinning in the boot. It wont start up

try booting back into recovery and running the script again - the launcher.bat . did you follow the instructions exactly? you should have booted to a tethered cwm where you flash root from. if you boot back into cwm reflash root. I'm assuming you allowed cwm to fix root. I skipped that step.
I believe you can get into recovery by holding vol down while booting up.

It worked for me. Thanks alot! Definitely skipped the "allowed cwm to fix root" at the end.
- Sweet relief. Now to debloat the hell out of this puppy!
Update - After root and debloat this thing runs like butter. I cant believe how good this is for $199. I was a bit worried about the Intel chip, but it actually runs cooler than any Snapdragon 600 or 800 I have ever used. Even when streaming video for hours.

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It worked for me. Thanks alot! Definitely skipped the "allowed cwm to fix root" at the end.
- Sweet relief. Now to debloat the hell out of this puppy!
Update - After root and debloat this thing runs like butter. I cant believe how good this is for $199. I was a bit worried about the Intel chip, but it actually runs cooler than any Snapdragon 600 or 800 I have ever used. Even when streaming video for hours.
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Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.

bsutton said:
Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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I haven't really gone through and tested everything to make sure its all 100% for sure good. A few hours of use with no issues at all. I just use Titanium backup and then go as follows. Freeze/Disable anything that starts with the word ASUS that you dont use. Even the Asus services (not keyboard and obvious stuff). I kept the Asus launcher though even though I use Nova because it caused issues with wallpapers when I disabled it.
then go through the list of apps and Freeze ones you dont use. A good way is to get the app "Advanced task killer free" . See what apps are running in your background. If its running and you dont use it freeze it. That should get you most of the way there. If you arent sure, just do a few at a time and see how it runs. If you broke something, unfreeze it. No harm done. I am not really done either... It's a process.

yep this thing is a steal at $200 and root makes it even better. wonder why there's so few reviews on best buy. it's been out for 3 weeks or so. I was #2 review.
4:3 is growing on me. I started digging it with my nexus 9. I doubt I'd get 4:3 for anything bigger than 9 in though.

bsutton said:
Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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make sure you freeze and don't uninstall since we don't have a way of getting back to stock... or am I wrong on that?
has any tried a nandroid yet?

madsquabbles said:
make sure you freeze and don't uninstall since we don't have a way of getting back to stock... or am I wrong on that?
has any tried a nandroid yet?
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Yup, that is good advice. You can always unfreeze, you cant always re-install. Titanium Backup full version is well worth the couple dollars.

Ugh I'm stuck between buying the 199 model or waiting for the 299 model, I mean I don't honestly need 4gb of ram nor 64gb of storage. I just want them Haha, I'd use it mostly for reading and movies really.

Takinato said:
Ugh I'm stuck between buying the 199 model or waiting for the 299 model, I mean I don't honestly need 4gb of ram nor 64gb of storage. I just want them Haha, I'd use it mostly for reading and movies really.
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i'm using mine the same way so i decided to not spend another $100 for the CA version. though for taking notes and stuff should be nice on this thing. it is freaking light! those who have weaker arm strength or have to hold a tablet for extended periods may like it better than a galaxy note 8 (only slightly lighter) or 10.1. it's waaaay lighter than a surface.
i can notice when a tablet i heavier than another one, but i don't complain like so many people seem to over a few ounces since the weight differences are sometimes just the weight of pencil or burger... i've never struggled holding a friggin pencil! but this thing is like holding nothing. it's amazing how much battery life and performance you can get in it.

madsquabbles said:
i'm using mine the same way so i decided to not spend another $100 for the CA version. though for taking notes and stuff should be nice on this thing. it is freaking light! those who have weaker arm strength or have to hold a tablet for extended periods may like it better than a galaxy note 8 (only slightly lighter) or 10.1. it's waaaay lighter than a surface.
i can notice when a tablet i heavier than another one, but i don't complain like so many people seem to over a few ounces since the weight differences are sometimes just the weight of pencil or burger... i've never struggled holding a friggin pencil! but this thing is like holding nothing. it's amazing how much battery life and performance you can get in it.
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Haha you aren't making my life any easier good sir! Thanks for the advice!

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Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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Takinato said:
Haha you aren't making my life any easier good sir! Thanks for the advice!
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Buy the Cheaper one now and if you need more, but the other one later.
I am with madsquabbles on this though. I have a high end PC and a high end smartphone for mobile... I really dont do anything heavy on a tablet, just browse web, imgur, email and occasional streaming and a few apps. Any decent tablet will do the job.

I didn't think of it that way, I also have desktop and high end mobile, probably grab one Today!

Takinato said:
I didn't think of it that way, I also have desktop and high end mobile, probably grab one Today!
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Yup, save that $100 for your next phone

I got one as a spur of the moment decision. I am Canadian and I happen to be vacationing in New York. I walked into the best buy in Albany and they happen to have one on display. The screen really wowed me and its colors and contrast and I couldn't believe how late it was. I thought it would be nice to have a smaller tablet in this form factor. Overall so far I have really enjoyed it the only tiny issue I have with it is it the bottom right third of the device has a small creek on it sometimes when I first pick it up but after holding it for a while it will not make the noise anymore. It is a small issue and I can certainly live with it as it would be too difficult for me to bring back to return in the United States. Additionally I happen to get lucky and have one of the first LCD screen tablet I have never bought that did not have any light B bleed whatsoever. Even the iPads I have thought in the past have had at least one return before getting one that was satisfactory in that regard.
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Furthermore I certainly hope that this device gets its own forum as now that there is a routing option and I see these and phones have custom ROMs it should only be a matter of time that there is a demand for development on this it expensive yet really beautiful tablet
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Thanks a lot! The instructions worked like a champ. I did take the time to make a nandroid. Took forever, easily 15-20 minutes, but it was successful. Anyway, thanks again!
I bought the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 on sale for the same price as the Asus and I'll be taking the Galaxy back. They're pretty comparable devices but all things being equal I prefer the Asus. The Galaxy does have the luxury of having a developer community already but now that it's eol they'll be moving on. Hopefully some will hop to this device!

I'll root when I have more time to do so. Thx for the post.
When I'm watching movies the screen looks like it's adjusting the brightness. I don't have the brightness set to auto. Anyone else having this problem.? I've gone thru all the settings, can't figure it out. That's the only gripe I have with the tablet. Any help would be awesome.

Check that power saving is off and not on optimised
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thanks for this guide, it works PERFECT