all credit to social-media-concepts and vampirefo who developed the root:
this has only been tested on the Z580C model and ONLY FOR LOLLIPOP.
finally got root on my zenpad s 8. i can't say how this'll affect updates in the future, but this is done after taking the first update out of the box as of 7-19-15.
pretty much all you do is follow the info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
grab the file here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60770086&postcount=352
download intel usb drivers here: https://software.intel.com/en-us/android/articles/intel-usb-driver-for-android-devices
download the latest chainfire su: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip and copy to your device or sd card
make sure your android sdk is up-to-date.
if you happened to already install the device and the usb adb device has the yellow warning on it, just updated the device driver after installing the intel drivers. select brows my computer... let me pick... scroll down to intel and select adb device.
next verify that adb recognizes your device -> adb devices
unzip IntelAndroid-FBRL-05-16-2015-PTR and run launcher.bat
if your device is detected select T2 and press enter.
wait a good while as it reboots into recovery. you'll see an error on the launcher bat about failing b/c of too many links or something, just ignore. you device will restart and have a buncha lines of text. after about 3-5min it'll boot into CWM. install su zip and reboot (didn't need to fix su at the propt).
you may want to do a nandroid before flashing SU. i skipped it so i can't say whether it'll be successful or not, but it's better to be i case something goes wrong. i'm still w/in my return period
there you go. enjoy an adfree device or what ever you want to do with your rooted tablet!
stock image available here: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/Zenpad/Z580C/UL-P01M-WW-3.3.8.0-user.zip
Mine is now stuck on spinning in the boot. It wont start up
try booting back into recovery and running the script again - the launcher.bat . did you follow the instructions exactly? you should have booted to a tethered cwm where you flash root from. if you boot back into cwm reflash root. I'm assuming you allowed cwm to fix root. I skipped that step.
I believe you can get into recovery by holding vol down while booting up.
It worked for me. Thanks alot! Definitely skipped the "allowed cwm to fix root" at the end.
- Sweet relief. Now to debloat the hell out of this puppy!
Update - After root and debloat this thing runs like butter. I cant believe how good this is for $199. I was a bit worried about the Intel chip, but it actually runs cooler than any Snapdragon 600 or 800 I have ever used. Even when streaming video for hours.
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It worked for me. Thanks alot! Definitely skipped the "allowed cwm to fix root" at the end.
- Sweet relief. Now to debloat the hell out of this puppy!
Update - After root and debloat this thing runs like butter. I cant believe how good this is for $199. I was a bit worried about the Intel chip, but it actually runs cooler than any Snapdragon 600 or 800 I have ever used. Even when streaming video for hours.
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Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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I haven't really gone through and tested everything to make sure its all 100% for sure good. A few hours of use with no issues at all. I just use Titanium backup and then go as follows. Freeze/Disable anything that starts with the word ASUS that you dont use. Even the Asus services (not keyboard and obvious stuff). I kept the Asus launcher though even though I use Nova because it caused issues with wallpapers when I disabled it.
then go through the list of apps and Freeze ones you dont use. A good way is to get the app "Advanced task killer free" . See what apps are running in your background. If its running and you dont use it freeze it. That should get you most of the way there. If you arent sure, just do a few at a time and see how it runs. If you broke something, unfreeze it. No harm done. I am not really done either... It's a process.
yep this thing is a steal at $200 and root makes it even better. wonder why there's so few reviews on best buy. it's been out for 3 weeks or so. I was #2 review.
4:3 is growing on me. I started digging it with my nexus 9. I doubt I'd get 4:3 for anything bigger than 9 in though.
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Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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make sure you freeze and don't uninstall since we don't have a way of getting back to stock... or am I wrong on that?
has any tried a nandroid yet?
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make sure you freeze and don't uninstall since we don't have a way of getting back to stock... or am I wrong on that?
has any tried a nandroid yet?
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Yup, that is good advice. You can always unfreeze, you cant always re-install. Titanium Backup full version is well worth the couple dollars.
Ugh I'm stuck between buying the 199 model or waiting for the 299 model, I mean I don't honestly need 4gb of ram nor 64gb of storage. I just want them Haha, I'd use it mostly for reading and movies really.
Takinato said:
Ugh I'm stuck between buying the 199 model or waiting for the 299 model, I mean I don't honestly need 4gb of ram nor 64gb of storage. I just want them Haha, I'd use it mostly for reading and movies really.
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i'm using mine the same way so i decided to not spend another $100 for the CA version. though for taking notes and stuff should be nice on this thing. it is freaking light! those who have weaker arm strength or have to hold a tablet for extended periods may like it better than a galaxy note 8 (only slightly lighter) or 10.1. it's waaaay lighter than a surface.
i can notice when a tablet i heavier than another one, but i don't complain like so many people seem to over a few ounces since the weight differences are sometimes just the weight of pencil or burger... i've never struggled holding a friggin pencil! but this thing is like holding nothing. it's amazing how much battery life and performance you can get in it.
madsquabbles said:
i'm using mine the same way so i decided to not spend another $100 for the CA version. though for taking notes and stuff should be nice on this thing. it is freaking light! those who have weaker arm strength or have to hold a tablet for extended periods may like it better than a galaxy note 8 (only slightly lighter) or 10.1. it's waaaay lighter than a surface.
i can notice when a tablet i heavier than another one, but i don't complain like so many people seem to over a few ounces since the weight differences are sometimes just the weight of pencil or burger... i've never struggled holding a friggin pencil! but this thing is like holding nothing. it's amazing how much battery life and performance you can get in it.
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Haha you aren't making my life any easier good sir! Thanks for the advice!
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Can I get a de-bloat list? I removed quite a bit but not sure what all is safe to remove. Its running great now, but i would love to get as much of that junk off as possible.
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Haha you aren't making my life any easier good sir! Thanks for the advice!
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Buy the Cheaper one now and if you need more, but the other one later.
I am with madsquabbles on this though. I have a high end PC and a high end smartphone for mobile... I really dont do anything heavy on a tablet, just browse web, imgur, email and occasional streaming and a few apps. Any decent tablet will do the job.
I didn't think of it that way, I also have desktop and high end mobile, probably grab one Today!
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I didn't think of it that way, I also have desktop and high end mobile, probably grab one Today!
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Yup, save that $100 for your next phone
I got one as a spur of the moment decision. I am Canadian and I happen to be vacationing in New York. I walked into the best buy in Albany and they happen to have one on display. The screen really wowed me and its colors and contrast and I couldn't believe how late it was. I thought it would be nice to have a smaller tablet in this form factor. Overall so far I have really enjoyed it the only tiny issue I have with it is it the bottom right third of the device has a small creek on it sometimes when I first pick it up but after holding it for a while it will not make the noise anymore. It is a small issue and I can certainly live with it as it would be too difficult for me to bring back to return in the United States. Additionally I happen to get lucky and have one of the first LCD screen tablet I have never bought that did not have any light B bleed whatsoever. Even the iPads I have thought in the past have had at least one return before getting one that was satisfactory in that regard.
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Furthermore I certainly hope that this device gets its own forum as now that there is a routing option and I see these and phones have custom ROMs it should only be a matter of time that there is a demand for development on this it expensive yet really beautiful tablet
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Thanks a lot! The instructions worked like a champ. I did take the time to make a nandroid. Took forever, easily 15-20 minutes, but it was successful. Anyway, thanks again!
I bought the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 on sale for the same price as the Asus and I'll be taking the Galaxy back. They're pretty comparable devices but all things being equal I prefer the Asus. The Galaxy does have the luxury of having a developer community already but now that it's eol they'll be moving on. Hopefully some will hop to this device!
I'll root when I have more time to do so. Thx for the post.
When I'm watching movies the screen looks like it's adjusting the brightness. I don't have the brightness set to auto. Anyone else having this problem.? I've gone thru all the settings, can't figure it out. That's the only gripe I have with the tablet. Any help would be awesome.
Check that power saving is off and not on optimised
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thanks for this guide, it works PERFECT
Related
http://www.pandawill.com/lyf1-table...ew-12ghz-cpu-8gb-2160p-hdmi-white-p53785.html
I bought 4 of these Tablets for my kiddoes for Christmas, and i must say these are really good..... the interface is laggy but if you replace the Launcher it helps... i have rooted it with SuperOneClick and it is sticking! now need to put CWM recovery and some custom roms and this thing will rock! i will post the recovery image here in a few..... warning it is in Chinese so good luck because i havnt tried it yet!...
here is the recovery files.. it works because i just tried it...
i offer no tech support and i am not responsible it you brick your Tablet, your wife or girlfriend leaves you or the world ends.... but i will help as much as i can...
http://www.multiupload.com/HX9LST2J7A
Nice!! with the help of messinatyler we can now have ICS before it is released.using the MOMO9 ICS firmware and a work around for the capacitive buttons not working this is really rocking.. since most of the new releases of ICS from China are rooted at the factory just install the super user app from market and all is good.... Much simpler that using any rooting tools....
here is his link to the instructions, Mods if i am in the wrong just tell me and i will remove the link.
http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/cor...ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0-4-0-a-612.html
im actually looking at buying one of these, how the build quality?
I am really interested in this too, please respond asap
i just got this email from pandawill.
"Hi,Dear friend,
Yes,Our item LY-F1,F4S,F528 will get an android 4.0 version,We have already made trial order for these items.But the mass production will do after Chinese New Year"
it actually is real good... the interface and drawer is laggy but i installed ICS launcher and it is a little faster... games run smooth and netflix runs with no hiccups... as soon as i figure out the bloat that needs removed it should run smoother... it isn't built like the M009S resistive tablets, this feels alot better in the hands.. my kiddoes love it and i am amazed at the performance and feel..
and for 100 bucks i cannot complain one bit... but it took me about a month to get them, i ordered 4 of them...... i do not like the customer service... but oh well...
i hope ICS comes this month, that would be sweet... i will upload the stock firmware and install files translated... not that great on the instructions but i am not going to flash for the hell of it... i will wait for one of the kiddoes to mess it up... hell i even thought of buying 10 of them, rooting and selling them locally for a sweet profit... lol
you think dropbox will be good enough for you guys?
dealextreme.com/p/7-capacitive-android-2-3-tablet-w-camera-wifi-hdmi-tf-cortex-a8-1-5ghz-4gb-111713
is this the same model ?
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it actually is real good... the interface and drawer is laggy but i installed ICS launcher and it is a little faster... games run smooth and netflix runs with no hiccups... as soon as i figure out the bloat that needs removed it should run smoother... it isn't built like the M009S resistive tablets, this feels alot better in the hands.. my kiddoes love it and i am amazed at the performance and feel..
and for 100 bucks i cannot complain one bit... but it took me about a month to get them, i ordered 4 of them...... i do not like the customer service... but oh well...
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Could you describe how laggy the launcher is? Maybe you could screen-record some footage of it? I'd be pretty interested in that. Also, an android device for like 100 bucks sounds like sweet candy to me.
i hope ICS comes this month, that would be sweet... i will upload the stock firmware and install files translated... not that great on the instructions but i am not going to flash for the hell of it... i will wait for one of the kiddoes to mess it up... hell i even thought of buying 10 of them, rooting and selling them locally for a sweet profit... lol
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Is it legal to do this kind of stuff? I mean rooting and selling it?
you think dropbox will be good enough for you guys?
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Sure it is!
rooting and selling? ya it is personal property.. not illegal..
dealextreme.com/p/7-capacitive-android-2-3-tablet-w-camera-wifi-hdmi-tf-cortex-a8-1-5ghz-4gb-111713
it looks the same? don't quote me on this....
i will zip up the recovery and image and upload it today... and post a link..
i will zip up the recovery and image and upload it today... and post a link..
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You, sir, are a good man.
recovery is up... i suggest you use the usb cord that came with the tablet... i offer no tech support and i am not responsible it you brick your Tablet, your wife or girlfriend leaves you or the world ends.... but i will help as much as i can...
i really want CWM recovery!!! ugg i tried adb to push files and actually got stuck in a boot loop.. or frozen at the android screen....
Lost Root
I tried to run this firmware and the one from the products website and neither one of the firmware loading programs "both are the same" will load the usb drivers in order to link and load the firmware. Also in the instructions it says to press the reset button in the pin hole in the bottom of the tablet to prompt the computer to ask for the usb drivers, which does nothing in my case so I removed the back cover to find a different reset button that works that is directly on the board, but the drivers will not install. Any help would be much appreciated. The reason for wanting to reload the firmware is because I did a factory reset and lost root, so if someone can tell me how to gain root access back and or run the factory firmware I would greatly appreciate it. By the way I had to run this software in compatibility mode for windows 95 for it to run on my XP machine.
i am running it on win 7 64bit... the key and the image have to be in the same directory as the program.. push in reset and then plug in the usb cable (the one shipped with the tablet) then you can remove the reset thing.... then it starts loading the rom.... the usb cable i was using wouldnt work... until i just randomly used the one provided... then everything worked,,, who knows...
and root. i used super oneclick and make sure the screen doesnt go to sleep... or it will hang... that worked for me...
For some reason I can't get the drivers for this tablet on the recovery file to install. Is there any way you can send me the ones that you use? In device manager I have two drivers that need to be updated when I plug my device in. First one is "android" the second one is "VID_1f3a_PID_efe8". Any help with this would be greatly appreciated as I can't run this recovery firmware nor can I use super one click as adb shell does not recognize my device because of not having the correct drivers for it.
ok when i get home i will look for the drivers... i am bound to have them on my windows box....
That would be awesome and much appreciated. I want to get this thing up and running on adb so I can push a custom recovery and maybe even cyanogen mod as well.
where did you get CM? and does it work?
i cant find the drivers? unless it is the HTC sync software that installed the base drivers... that is the only thing i can think of, unless i actually used the drivers that came with it. which can be a distinct possibility....
I found out how to do it from another site that told me how to root it. It still won't connect to the computer like it's suppose, it only shows up as drives and won't pick up in adb shell. I found cm in another forum I was looking at, the only thing that i'm worried about is there is several things not working with this rom, so I think I'll wait till someone gets a clean running version before I run it. Next thing I would like to do is install a custom recovery.
if i knew how to extract and inject parts to the image file i could come up with a custom rom... i will have to study it...
Hi, I have 2 questions about this device I am about to order.
First one is about the battery life. Some sites indicate 3000, 3500 and 4000 mA with 5 hours working time. As I intend to use this tablet on plane I really expect at least 6 hours of video playback. Would you be kind enough to run a test on this point?
The novo7 advanced with a very similar hardware lasts 8 hours.
The second question is about its screen. It is given as an IPS technology which should have nice viewing angles (much better than the TFT). Can you confirm that the screen is really good?
Thank so much for your feedback.
Hey guys,
So, I own a Galaxy Ace, which is pretty outdated (but actually a few months newer than Nexus S).
What I mean is that it's quite slow with JB AOKP, and doesn't run it properly (no camera and no video codecs so far).
So, considering that Nexus S is still getting google updates for Android and that it seems like a very nice phone, and that it's cheap, should I sell my Galaxy Ace and get a Nexus S?
Thanks
I've had a Nexus S since it was released and as much as I love it, I think the hardware is starting to get a little dated. Unless it's an extremely good price, I wouldn't spend the money to get one.
mokflurry said:
I've had a Nexus S since it was released and as much as I love it, I think the hardware is starting to get a little dated. Unless it's an extremely good price, I wouldn't spend the money to get one.
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Thanks. I've been reading here about how slow JB some people get. Even, I think we can say that it's a top device with a decent screen. After NS, all I see are phones/tablets, which doesn't look good to me at all. Bigger screens than 4" is a deal breaker for me.
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Thanks. I've been reading here about how slow JB some people get. Even, I think we can say that it's a top device with a decent screen. After NS, all I see are phones/tablets, which doesn't look good to me at all. Bigger screens than 4" is a deal breaker for me.
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I'd say buy the NS! I've also had it since release and running JB now. For me it runs smoother than every before. Compared to the Ace you'll be very surprised!
Though if you have a bit more money to spare, wait for the new nexus phones and see if a 4" or 4.3" turns up.
Forget about Ns go for Gn.
Missed the point that he doesn't like bigger screens?
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kwibis said:
I'd say buy the NS! I've also had it since release and running JB now. For me it runs smoother than every before. Compared to the Ace you'll be very surprised!
Though if you have a bit more money to spare, wait for the new nexus phones and see if a 4" or 4.3" turns up.
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Well, let's say that maybe I have bought it already..
hahahahah
Anyway, it would be really nice to have the new nexus with a "phone screen", and not a "mini-tablet screen"
I'm quite impressed so far. No OTA for JB yet (is there something wrong?), but ICS looks awesome. Just the fact that everything works is already impressive for me. hahahaha
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Well, let's say that maybe I have bought it already..
hahahahah
Anyway, it would be really nice to have the new nexus with a "phone screen", and not a "mini-tablet screen"
I'm quite impressed so far. No OTA for JB yet (is there something wrong?), but ICS looks awesome. Just the fact that everything works is already impressive for me. hahahaha
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Hahaha awesome! welcome to the nexus community! Are you going to do any hacking on the phone? If not, did you perform a factory reset? if so, try refreshing the "update" section, maybe it'll pop up.
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Hahaha awesome! welcome to the nexus community! Are you going to do any hacking on the phone? If not, did you perform a factory reset? if so, try refreshing the "update" section, maybe it'll pop up.
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Thanks! About hacking, you know how we feel about new phones.. sad about taking their virginity. I got rid of my Ace because I want a phone that saves me more time than what I spend making it work properly. So I'll stick with ICS for now, and wait the JB OTA to pop up. Tried the update section, but not a factory reset. Do you think that the factory reset could make the update show up?
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Thanks! About hacking, you know how we feel about new phones.. sad about taking their virginity. I got rid of my Ace because I want a phone that saves me more time than what I spend making it work properly. So I'll stick with ICS for now, and wait the JB OTA to pop up. Tried the update section, but not a factory reset. Do you think that the factory reset could make the update show up?
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This is a known trick to push the OTA. Pull the SIM card out and have a strong WIFI signal. Open the Settings application. Select Apps. Select the All drawer, and select Google Service Frameworks. Force Stop the application, then Clear Data. Now check for an update. Select About Phone in Settings, and select System Update. It will have something like 1969.
If nothing then repeat all the steps above.
Oh and root that Nexus S...it begs for it :good:
Buy a Nexus!
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why not buy a galaxy nexus instead?
Did you two guys above me even read anything?
Ot: the Nexus works pretty good on stock, however for me it was a bit too slow. Also clearing data of the systems app like suggested above might work
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Hey. Thanks for the replies and the help, guys.
This trick to push OTA wouldn't result in any signal or other carrier failures, would it? Looked up on Google and here for a specific thread about this, but didn't find any.
Also, could the performance/battery life get better just from a single root? I'd need scripts like adrenaline engine or v6 supercharger, right?
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Hey. Thanks for the replies and the help, guys.
This trick to push OTA wouldn't result in any signal or other carrier failures, would it? Looked up on Google and here for a specific thread about this, but didn't find any.
Also, could the performance/battery life get better just from a single root? I'd need scripts like adrenaline engine or v6 supercharger, right?
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This trick does not influence anything.
Just rooting won't give you any performance. Also there are some discussions going about these scripts. I'm not a big fan. I just flashed a different rom with different kernel.
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This trick does not influence anything.
Just rooting won't give you any performance. Also there are some discussions going about these scripts. I'm not a big fan. I just flashed a different rom with different kernel.
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Like Kwibis said it doesn't effect anything if you do it this way. Pull SIM and turn on wifi. Go close to the wireless router for a solid link.
"Some discussions" lol They are heated to say the least...the creator of V6 Supercharger..Zeppelinrox, believes whole heartedly that it works and thousands of others will back him. Thousands of others say placebo...you have to decide for yourself. I'm torn since he's a fellow Canadian...lol. I've used it but that was a long time a go..
Rooting may or may not improve your phone. Depends on the ROM and Kernel chosen and every phone is different so there is no "Best ROM/Kernel" combo...I hate that question...lol.
Read up and if you choose to root do it the right way and learn ADB (Android Debug Bridge) using Android SDK. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782 Old thread but still works, just get the newer recovery and superuser. DON'T use a one click because you will learn nothing so when you ef something up you'll annoy people by starting a thread for a problem you should know how to solve. Oh and unlocking your phone wipes everything so backup your music, pics, etc.
Hope this helps
Thanks people for taking your time! Helpful tips!
About OTA update, I just thought that there might be a reason why my phone didn't get it yet. If it was my old Ace, I would have done it the first time I read, but everything just works so great, that I don't want to mess up and then have to get into rom, kernel and scripts choosing again. About rooting, I misunderstood up there, the simple act of rooting it obviously wouldn't improve performance at all. But again, everything works so great that I'm even afraid of pushing OTA hahaha.
Boy, this GPS locks FAST. Indoors with windows closed. I still can't believe this. This would never (ever ever) happen with Ace, no matter how best your path for gps fix was. With stock config, well, sometimes you can't even get signal outdoors with the cleanest skies.
Anyway, will try the OTA trick (I miss my messed up JB on Ace).
Thanks again!
Tried the steps 4 times. Nothing happened. I saw the "Last checked in ..../1969", but it didn't find any new updates.
I guess ICS is ok too.
Lol check your date and clock. Are they set right?
Rooting is that you get superuser access so you can perform actions that normally wouldn't be possible like backing up apps and data.
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I'd suggest to buy the Galaxy Nexus instead of a NS. I have compared the two phones side by side and the GS just feels faster, sleeker and more responsive. I should add that I chose a Nexus device specifficaly because of the multitude of roms that were (are) available for it.
One thing I dislike in GS is the enormous screen. It just feels like an overkill for me. I'm content with the size NS provides.
One thing I dislike in NS is the touchscreen buttons order - I have amended that through remapping the buttons. For example the "menu" button is my "home" button. If you are left handed you should be fine and maybe you will not need to tinker with this.
I absolutly loved my TF 700 the last months. But it seems its getting slower and slower. Doing some slow background data transfer with 100-200kb/s and you cant work anymore. Switching between apps takes too long, the browser reacts awfully and every couple of seconds the "would you like to close the app?" screen.
Im so pissed right now. Is Asus ever going to remove the Issue and the awfully black stripe on the screen?
If I could I would return the tablet but I have to stick with it...
Can u install the clearmod without changing the bootloader? Can u still recieve updates? If yes I will try that if nothing changes till new year.
TO ASUS: F*** you!
UPDATE:
Yes I did factory reset, wipe and exchanged the tablet for mechanical problems. This is a major problem with most tablets.
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I absolutly loved my TF 700 the last months. But it seems its getting slower and slower. Doing some slow background data transfer with 100-200kb/s and you cant work anymore. Switching between apps takes too long, the browser reacts awfully and every couple of seconds the "would you like to close the app?" screen.
Im so pissed right now. Is Asus ever going to remove the Issue and the awfully black stripe on the screen?
If I could I would return the tablet but I have to stick with it...
Can u install the clearmod without changing the bootloader?
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Nope.
Can u still recieve updates?
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Nope
If yes I will try that if nothing changes till new year.
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What makes you think it will?
TO ASUS: F*** you!
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When referring to stock shipping state: slightly agreed.
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Yes I did factory reset, wipe and exchanged the tablet for mechanical problems. This is a major problem with most tablets.
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Agreed. Do yourself a favor and unlock the 700, and install CleanROM. World of difference, and only minor risk involved. Really!
I agree. Install cleanrom and it will be night and day. Check out the post your benchmarks thread.
Uh oh!
Another Ooooo mommy I got a boo-boo thread
Not to pi55 on people's CleanROM parade here, but a reminder that my Infinity died a sudden death after only two months on Friday. All unlocking suggestions should be appended with a 'must buy extra warranty' note, what with such awful QC in Asusland.
usern ameisval idandnot said:
I absolutly loved my TF 700 the last months. But it seems its getting slower and slower. Doing some slow background data transfer with 100-200kb/s and you cant work anymore. Switching between apps takes too long, the browser reacts awfully and every couple of seconds the "would you like to close the app?" screen.
Im so pissed right now. Is Asus ever going to remove the Issue and the awfully black stripe on the screen?
If I could I would return the tablet but I have to stick with it...
Can u install the clearmod without changing the bootloader? Can u still recieve updates? If yes I will try that if nothing changes till new year.
TO ASUS: F*** you!
UPDATE:
Yes I did factory reset, wipe and exchanged the tablet for mechanical problems. This is a major problem with most tablets.
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I had the same experience after the last update, BUT then rolled back to .30 and re-updated using the DLPKGFILE method and now things are much better. Browser still acts a little wonky now and then but it doesn't seem to be IO related as background downloads have little effect on overall performance.
I'll second the last post, while cleanrom seems to be amazing from reports, there have been too many reports of bricking trying to reboot to recovery for me to give up my Warranty.
Choice of nand aside I think this tablet is great and qc is no worse than any other tablet out there. I looked at the samsung windows 8 tab the other day and it felt like a cheap POS compared to the infinity.
So I finally installed Clean Rom with Fsync -> disabled.Stock kernel and launcher, no changes and no wipe/factory reset. Before that I was about to eat my TF700 alive
Now it feels like it is another new rocking tablet. Everything is so smooth and works so fast. Apps open in 2 seconds where it needed 5 before. Browsing works almost as fast as on my desktop pc. The new surface is much better than the one provided by Asus
But if somehow you get one that should've failed QC and you unlocked the thing...
Then just give some time to settle. Look for little defects or signs that you may of gotten a lemon before unlocking, bad screen, buttons etc.
I've only had mine for two weeks, still on the OTA 4.1 JB. Yeah its a little hicups at times, but overall i think its very smooth, games play pretty good.
I'm just waiting for a bit to make sure its stable as a rock and everything is looking good before I unlock it.
usern ameisval idandnot said:
So I finally installed Clean Rom with Fsync -> disabled.Stock kernel and launcher, no changes and no wipe/factory reset. Before that I was about to eat my TF700 alive
Now it feels like it is another new rocking tablet. Everything is so smooth and works so fast. Apps open in 2 seconds where it needed 5 before. Browsing works almost as fast as on my desktop pc. The new surface is much better than the one provided by Asus
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So CleanROM sorts out absolutely everything on the tablet? Do you need to put on the IO fix onto an SD Card as well?
It is optional. I didnt do it. If there is an offer on SD Cards I will do it later on for even more speed.
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So CleanROM sorts out absolutely everything on the tablet? Do you need to put on the IO fix onto an SD Card as well?
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A reply in another thread he still has the occasional lag even after using cleanrom
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what he said
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Of course that does not happen all the time, otherwise I would have thrown my TF700 out of the window already, but it happens too often to not notice. And that is already after unlocking (voiding warranty) and installing CleanROM. Trying to use some Data-to-SD solution failed because the MicroSD interface is unreliable (at least with my SanDisk 32 GB UHS-1 card) and hangs after some time or produces lots of I/O errors in the log.
Do not buy this tablet if you want a mostly problem-free device.
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I have to agree with the op...... i would add that my browser was much improved after JB but since has ground to a mind numbing lag when i first open pages. Scrolling while the page opens (and stalls) brings a FC message. Ive cleared cache, cold reboot, etc.... stock browser is still garbage. Too bad browsing is such a drag on this product. My old Mytouch 4G kicks the S**T out of this tired, tired tab.... lol, turbo-fail!
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I have applied the new update and i think it may have sped the situation up a bit.....that is, the lag when I load a page has lessened to some degree... not disappeared.....now we shall see if it slows down again...
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I bought mine 1 week back with lot of hopes and expectations. I did see posts about IO issue here, but I thought it wouldn't bother me much. But I am extremely disappointed. It lags really badly whenever I try to download something. Right now, I am looking for reasons not to return it. I would have already returned it, but I don't really like going to UPS and do the shipping.
Please advice me...Should I wait hoping that Asus will fix this, or return it and get Nexus 10 or Surface? I am on the latest 4.1.1 Asus original firmware.
Yeah, if you plan on downloading something or just transferring files on/off it you better just do it and let it be. Multi tasking is impossible in those situations.
Custom ROMs change that much?
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Yeah, if you plan on downloading something or just transferring files on/off it you better just do it and let it be. Multi tasking is impossible in those situations.
Custom ROMs change that much?
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That's sad. I guess I don't have any other options.
just do it
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That's sad. I guess I don't have any other options.
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i dont know about you guys but i love my tf700 ... now!
at first, yeh i was a bit (a lot) disapointed, but now... runnin cromi and on/off with clemsyn/stock kernel it is a beast!
i have an oc'd gs2 also which is an animal... and all thanks to custom roms and tweaks and rooting!
imho: unlock,root,cromi the biatch,some d2sd action and block ads with adaway and browsing/gaming/etc is awsum!
just did it
snypa said:
i dont know about you guys but i love my tf700 ... now!
at first, yeh i was a bit (a lot) disapointed, but now... runnin cromi and on/off with clemsyn/stock kernel it is a beast!
i have an oc'd gs2 also which is an animal... and all thanks to custom roms and tweaks and rooting!
imho: unlock,root,cromi the biatch,some d2sd action and block ads with adaway and browsing/gaming/etc is awsum!
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For some reason, your post inspired me. Now, its running CROMI :highfive:
Not decided on d2sd though...
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
If you feel this way, do it. But why? Are you missing apps?
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Why what, why do I want to unlock it? All the reasons I just outlined, it kinds a little annoying having to wait 5 seconds for the keyboard to pop up randomly, or the little stutters and halts when you browse as the page is loading. I just don't know for sure if there are ROMs out there that will take care of these for me, or if they fix the IO issue, or if that's even the culprit at all here.
I'm also running into a really annoying friggin typing issue here where it will double press keys, and when I go to backspace, it copies and pastes the word I'm trying to delete a line above where I am. I think it's only this forum, but it renders typing on the tablet here useless.
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
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I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
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when you say free of the IO issue, have you tried transferring large files to the onboard storage (not SD)? iirc it was a hardware issue so no amount of software fix is going to fix it. IO issue != stuttering when browsing
Well, I'm pretty sure I'm going through with it, I'll probably wait a bit yet just to read up some more. I'll get the SquareTrade warranty with the 40% off coupon as soon as I figure out how to get the code just as a crutch/safety net, and I'm thinking of going with CleanROM Inheritance.
So, grabbed from David's thread earlier, this is the basic process:
Unlock
Reboot
Install Goo Manger
Install TWRP recovery
Reboot into recovery
Install ROM/Gapps
{PROFIT}!?
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Is there a thread somewhere that at least has screenshots as you start loading the ROMs, because I've never done that before and would like to just see what I'm going to be looking at first.
I was trying not to add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
Thats OK said:
I was trying not add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
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I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
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I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
Thats OK said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
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Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
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You'll have to do the convincing yourself.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away?
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Depends on which browser you use. In most cases, it will improve considerably, but if you use the stock browser you can achieve the same effect with some tweaking (after rooting).
Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue?
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I hardly remove the dock. Is this a known issue??
Will the overall system be snappier?
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Yes, as this is a software issue.
Does it somehow fix the slow io?
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No, as this is hardware-related..
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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As I said, you'll have to do the convincing yourself, as that is a decision I have nothing to do with. Taking a swig of my own medicine - I unlocked at the first opportunity -- I'd say that the benefits are significant.
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berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
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Because a large minority of apps seem to have compatibility issues, causing them to force-close. Legacy reasons, in other words.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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As far as I have followed the discussions, the ST warranty has been used a few times.
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I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update).
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That was also the main motivation for me - the big decision if I want to be forever limited to what Asus provides, but with warranty and automatic upgrades, or if I want to take full control over my own tablet, with the risk of having to pay for hardware faults.
Knowing that I could not upgrade past 9.4.5.26 without either unlocking or forever losing full control over the bootloader forced me to decide. I still waited for a few weeks, then I finally unlocked, made the nvflash backups and upgraded to stock JB. After a few days I installed CleanROM. Not all lag issues went away, but I still think the experience is better than before.
Unlocking totally worth it for me
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
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I think that it's important for you to state where you live (which continent).
Because if you live in Europe, you have nothing to fear. If you unlock your device, you cannot be held responsible for hardware (/production) issues. The repair centres will always replace anything for free the first 6 months after your purchase.
In the United States customer service will help you out as well, as long as you bought the device from a somewhat bigger and respectable store.
To be honest, unlocking the device is the best thing since sliced bread. It fixed a lot of issues and I can easily get above 6500 on Quandrant on the normal mode and I get 6900+ on performance mode.
Hope this helps you out
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I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
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Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
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Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
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Yeah, *we* love *your* ROM, too!
Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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If you got worried about the issues some people seem to have, just flash CleanROM 2.4 -- it won't be updated, but it was rock-stable. It seems that there is quite a bit of variability between our devices, as there have been lots of issues experienced by small numbers of users (sometimes even only one) that even Scott found hard to reproduce.
The riskiest thing you can do is flashing a bootloader -- even there, if done correctly, the risk is minimal, but at its highest point. Just flashing a ROM in itself doesn't carry that much of a risk at all -- you might end up with an OS that doesn't boot, but then you could always enter recovery, wipe date/factory reset and just flash an earlier version, or another ROM altogether. As long as you keep a working ROM .zip file handy for emergency flashing (I have one on my SGS2 that was amid-life ICS version of RootBox), you'll be able to save your bacon.
Oh... don't forget to get a good backup program *I'd suggest Titanium Backup Pro), and set a (preferably daily) schedule for the backups. That way, you won't lose more than the data modified since the last backup. That has worked out nicely for me the past few years.
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So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
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Flashing a custom ROM will not make a hardware problem rear its ugly head. It would've been there before, so check for the known issues thoroughly. If OK, flash away.
Ive had my TF700 for awhile, always had it rooted but today unlocked it.
Took 10mins to get Teamwin and install liquid smooth.
I should of done this months ago, this rom let alone makes a huge difference in speed, plus the customization never ends.
DO IT
berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
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If you read term and condition, Square Trade will not cover unlocked bootloader. BTW, running custom rom will eliminated ALL your issues mentioned above. Your device will be fast and smooth just like the way it should be.
Just found out about the MAJOR lag issues surrounding it I have 14 days to return it. I was looking for a $400 tablet, not too old with good battery life and came across this.
Do the clean and cromi-x roms 'renew' it completely?
Would you have returned your tablet and gotten something else if you'd known this would happen??
Should i return it, or just keep it (and flash)?
I keep hearing people saying to get the nexus 10, but even that has its issues apparently (battery drain + slow charging).
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Just found out about the MAJOR lag issues surrounding it I have 14 days to return it. I was looking for a $400 tablet, not too old with good battery life and came across this.
Do the clean and cromi-x roms 'renew' it completely?
Would you have returned your tablet and gotten something else if you'd known this would happen??
Should i return it, or just keep it (and flash)?
I keep hearing people saying to get the nexus 10, but even that has its issues apparently (battery drain + slow charging).
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Yes, clean rom cromi, cm10.1, etc.. speed up the device very well! it will fly
I own a TF300T and we have basicly the same thing on stock rom: very bad lag! so if you like stock i would reccomend crom-x/cleanrom or TF700 specific roms based on stock
Honestly i would return it and save the money for some upcoming device.It's one year old,you have to unlock it (and loose your warranty) in order to have more decent performance and you will mostlikely end-up spending more time to tweak the device than actually enjoy it.Ofcourse this is only my opinion,the final decision it's up to you.
ignoramus0611 said:
Just found out about the MAJOR lag issues surrounding it I have 14 days to return it. I was looking for a $400 tablet, not too old with good battery life and came across this.
Do the clean and cromi-x roms 'renew' it completely?
Would you have returned your tablet and gotten something else if you'd known this would happen??
Should i return it, or just keep it (and flash)?
I keep hearing people saying to get the nexus 10, but even that has its issues apparently (battery drain + slow charging).
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If I had it to do over again...it would go back. Sorry to say that but you should NOT have to make ANY changes to a tablet that is supposed to be at the top of the line. My wife's AT105-T1032 Toshiba, is a lot more stable than the TF700.
Here are some of MY problems:
ANY browser will loose input from the onscreen keyboard...doesn't matter if it's Asus KB or Swiftkey or Google
The lag is so bad at times the KB won't appear for a second or two
ANY browser will just force close for no appearent reason...doesn't happen often but it does happen
The screen is loose on the lower right corner, I thought this issue had fixed itself but I noticed it again the other day
When posting on forums none of the browsers work correctly. They make it a horrible experiance and I usually have to give up and go to my PC to complete posts I want to make. If you insert a word that was mispelled it usually will appear at the top of the post you are making and delete any text it replaces. VERY VERY frustrating and has been an issue for me from day 1. (a year ago)
Here's how I intend to fix them:
When the warranty is up I will try rooting and unlocking and a different ROM. If I can't get that to make it work right for me I WILL take it out in the driveway and beat the living crap out of it, place it in a box and send it back to Asus with a detailed explanation of why they now have it in their hands
Now- it's your decision to make and you will probably read a lot of negitive replies as well as see quite a few on the forums about TF201 and TF700. It seems like people go to the forums to complain not realizing that they aren't supported by Asus. So get ready for more like this one but also you'll get quite a few saying how great this tablet is. It still all comes down to YOU.
I have NEVER been this frustrated by any computer and I'm not a happy Asus customer. BUT I will still buy Asus products, just no more tablets. I have an old P5GPL (P4) Asus motherboard that has been running for 8-9? years and has never given me one days trouble. I've replaced everything around it, power supply, hard drive and video card and it just keeps on keepin' on!
Pretoriano80 said:
Honestly i would return it and save the money for some upcoming device.It's one year old,you have to unlock it (and loose your warranty) in order to have more decent performance and you will mostlikely end-up spending more time to tweak the device than actually enjoy it.Ofcourse this is only my opinion,the final decision it's up to you.
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@Pretoriano80, after being on the custom rom for some time, do you see it using too much memory or getting sluggish? It's one year old but the new 10inch tablets are $500 and up. what option do i have?
I looked through your all in one guide but wouldn't know where to start since my tablet is already updated to 4.2.1.
So how would one unlock the bootloader if the instructions listed were for version below 4.2.1?
Does it mean Id have to downgrade to ICS first?
Also don't know what comes first, unlocking or rooting. Just rooting the device will not allow installation of Cromi-x/cleanRom right?
Please please return it...I know you will be tempted to unlock and install CROMI. But don't....I am using the tablet for the last 6 months I think. If it weren't for CROMI, I would have jumped over it in anger.
Please just return it, and get a better tablet.
WARNING: DON'T READ ANY OF THE MODDING THREADS UNTIL YOU RETURN IT. IT'S FULL OF TEMPTATIONS.
Please just return it, and get a better tablet.
WARNING: DON'T READ ANY OF THE MODDING THREADS UNTIL YOU RETURN IT. IT'S FULL OF TEMPTATIONS.[/QUOTE]
+1 :good: I have to agree with you on this but it also improves the over all performance quite a bit..
ignoramus0611 said:
Just found out about the MAJOR lag issues surrounding it I have 14 days to return it. I was looking for a $400 tablet, not too old with good battery life and came across this.
Do the clean and cromi-x roms 'renew' it completely?
Would you have returned your tablet and gotten something else if you'd known this would happen??
Should i return it, or just keep it (and flash)?
I keep hearing people saying to get the nexus 10, but even that has its issues apparently (battery drain + slow charging).
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I kinda agree with the above, but I bought a used one of eBay not knowing what I'd gotten into. I just want to check email, watch movies, shop, etc. No real life-saving issues. Didn't notice much lag or problem with stock but went ahead and installed CROMI-X not knowing anything about android, etc. I love mine. At 400, maybe not, half the price, sure.
ignoramus0611 said:
@Pretoriano80, after being on the custom rom for some time, do you see it using too much memory or getting sluggish? It's one year old but the new 10inch tablets are $500 and up. what option do i have?
I looked through your all in one guide but wouldn't know where to start since my tablet is already updated to 4.2.1.
So how would one unlock the bootloader if the instructions listed were for version below 4.2.1?
Does it mean Id have to downgrade to ICS first?
Also don't know what comes first, unlocking or rooting. Just rooting the device will not allow installation of Cromi-x/cleanRom right?
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You can ROOT your device without unlocking your bootloader, but you can't install custom roms and a custom recovery in this case, just some apps that need rooting or some tweaks. The good part with only rooting is that your warranty will still be valid because you can return to a clean stock rom anytime. For rooting your device on 4.2.1 you will have to use MotoChopper (search in the tf700t forum).
If you unlock the bootloader then you can kiss goodbye your warranty and enjoy custom roms, custom kernels, etc but you can't go back to a bootloader locked state anymore.
No matter what you will choose (root or unlocking) don't expect miracles or else you will be disappointed. The first time you install a rom you will notice much gain in performance, but after you install some of your favourite apps you will see the performance going down again (imho this is also the reason why you can find bad and good opinions about this device, because everyone use it in different ways). Also forget about benchmarks it won't do any good to you or the device itself and you will just end-up just hunting higher scores.
I really don't know which device to recommend you becaause i only have this one, but read some reviews from trusted sites (Engadget for example was maybe one of the few to do a honest review about the tf700t) or wait until some new generation devices will be released.
Btw one year ago i paid 500€ just for the tablet so paying 500$ now for a new generation device it's in line with the tablet market in my opinion, so once again mate, it's your call.
Even with cromi or cm10.2 the tablet lags. It's not good enough! RETURN RETURN RETURN!
I actually love this tab. I did do a lot of research before buying it though so I knew some issues before I bought so I also knew that I was not going to buy one for full retail and be happy. I did a lot of hunting around on craigslist and ended picking up a 64GB tab with the docking station and quite a few accessories for a little less than half of retail. I then immediately unlocked and rooted it, installed CROMI-X, and tried a coupe different kernels until I found the combination that worked for me. Finally I created a Nandroid of this setup and started using the tab.
I did have experience rooting and ROM'ing as well so I knew that I would be comfortable with that aspect and I always try to stay a little behind the curve of teh latest gadget so others can figure out how to fix the issues (because for every device there are issues).
As of right now I couldn't be happier. I got a tab that does everything I need it to and it seems sufficiently fast and responsive to me.
Would I have been happy if I paid full price a year ago and had to suffer through all of the issues that I hear being talked about on this forum? No. but at half price and time to give the great and dedicated developers on this site a chance to address the worst of the issues, Hell yeah, Great tab :good:
Just my experience so far.
Jeff
Pretoriano80 said:
You can ROOT your device without unlocking your bootloader, but you can't install custom roms and a custom recovery in this case, just some apps that need rooting or some tweaks. The good part with only rooting is that your warranty will still be valid because you can return to a clean stock rom anytime. For rooting your device on 4.2.1 you will have to use MotoChopper (search in the tf700t forum).
If you unlock the bootloader then you can kiss goodbye your warranty and enjoy custom roms, custom kernels, etc but you can't go back to a bootloader locked state anymore.
No matter what you will choose (root or unlocking) don't expect miracles or else you will be disappointed. The first time you install a rom you will notice much gain in performance, but after you install some of your favourite apps you will see the performance going down again (imho this is also the reason why you can find bad and good opinions about this device, because everyone use it in different ways). Also forget about benchmarks it won't do any good to you or the device itself and you will just end-up just hunting higher scores.
I really don't know which device to recommend you becaause i only have this one, but read some reviews from trusted sites (Engadget for example was maybe one of the few to do a honest review about the tf700t) or wait until some new generation devices will be released.
Btw one year ago i paid 500€ just for the tablet so paying 500$ now for a new generation device it's in line with the tablet market in my opinion, so once again mate, it's your call.
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gixxer340 said:
I actually love this tab. I did do a lot of research before buying it though so I knew some issues before I bought so I also knew that I was not going to buy one for full retail and be happy. I did a lot of hunting around on craigslist and ended picking up a 64GB tab with the docking station and quite a few accessories for a little less than half of retail. I then immediately unlocked and rooted it, installed CROMI-X, and tried a coupe different kernels until I found the combination that worked for me. Finally I created a Nandroid of this setup and started using the tab.
I did have experience rooting and ROM'ing as well so I knew that I would be comfortable with that aspect and I always try to stay a little behind the curve of teh latest gadget so others can figure out how to fix the issues (because for every device there are issues).
As of right now I couldn't be happier. I got a tab that does everything I need it to and it seems sufficiently fast and responsive to me.
Would I have been happy if I paid full price a year ago and had to suffer through all of the issues that I hear being talked about on this forum? No. but at half price and time to give the great and dedicated developers on this site a chance to address the worst of the issues, Hell yeah, Great tab :good:
Just my experience so far.
Jeff
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Thanks guys, I'll just return it then. I did a lot of research as well before picking this one...its a great tablet, but not worth full price considering its drawback. I'll probably wait for the next Infinity Pad that's coming out, although I've been hearing that even Tegra 4 has issues
ignoramus0611 said:
Thanks guys, I'll just return it then. I did a lot of research as well before picking this one...its a great tablet, but not worth full price considering its drawback. I'll probably wait for the next Infinity Pad that's coming out, although I've been hearing that even Tegra 4 has issues
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Try cm 10.2 no more lag at all:thumbup:
I agree with everyone here. Return it. If you want a tablet right now just get the Nexus 10 or maybe even the Toshiba Excite Pro or sony experia z. If you want a kb dock get the HP slatebook x2 which I just bought and it a very speedy and smooth tablet. Screen isn't as high contrast and cant get as bright but it's not too bad. But if you can wait just wait for Asus to release the new Infinity pad and hopefully it performs as well as the slatebook x2. I have gotten so used to the tf700 that I did not realize how bad it really is even with cromi x or data2sd mod compared to the slatebook. So please take everyone's advice on this one.
EDIT: Posted too early and did not read your post about returning it. Good for you!
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titou00075 said:
Try cm 10.2 no more lag at all:thumbup:
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I tried it and does get rid of transition stutter but it still lags here and there. It's still in its early stages so maybe it will get better but thats a big risk the OP will have to make.
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aznmode said:
I tried it and does get rid of transition stutter but it still lags here and there. It's still in its early stages so maybe it will get better but thats a big risk the OP will have to make.
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Try also holo Launcher hd
aznmode said:
I tried it and does get rid of transition stutter but it still lags here and there. It's still in its early stages so maybe it will get better but thats a big risk the OP will have to make.
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Try CROMi-X 4.7. The only lag I get is on wake up since I disable wifi in deep sleep. No transition/scrolling lag whatsoever, browsing is lightning fast.
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I've been on cromi x for a while now. You must've set your transition to 0 to not notice any lag in transition. There's still I/O issue no matter which cromi version or kernel. Anyway were getting off subject. Thanks for the advice. Let's get back on topic.
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RETURN IT. 10 months with this tablet suffering lag -.-
I would if I could and just grab a nexus 10 or perhaps the new nexus 7.
P.S: I use cromi, still a failure. My droid razr dual core beats this quad so badly...
aznmode said:
I've been on cromi x for a while now. You must've set your transition to 0 to not notice any lag in transition. There's still I/O issue no matter which cromi version or kernel. Anyway were getting off subject. Thanks for the advice. Let's get back on topic.
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Try my latest beta version - I found some settings that may help some of the IO issues when downloading files or using the sdcard.
Arachnida said:
RETURN IT. 10 months with this tablet suffering lag -.-
I would if I could and just grab a nexus 10 or perhaps the new nexus 7.
P.S: I use cromi, still a failure. My droid razr dual core beats this quad so badly...
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Thanks appreciate the support