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How can I get Google Play Services to stop bugging me?

So I have this issue. I'm completely against Google Play Services, the massive battery drain on my device should be enough of an excuse to not have it installed. It's been constantly badgering me recently about how Google Maps won't run without Google Play Services installed. Now let me say this, I don't use to many Google apps aside from Gmail. Google Maps rarely comes in handy for me, and I normally just end up looking up destinations on my browser. Will deleting Google Maps from my phone fix this problem? (And yes, my phone is rooted)

You could try Greenify!
Aaand if you want to remove the apps, you'll probably need ''Link2SD'' for that.
Also Link2SD can freeze the apps!

Or use app quarantine from play store to freeze Google play services
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Disable Google Play Services and Google Services Framework for better battery/privacy

I disabled Google Play Services and Google Services Framework on my Moto G, because I don't need them and the Play Store (I sideload all my apps from the pc).
But there's a big problem: if I disable even one of them, and try to enable the geolocation, it only uses the option "high precision" and, worse then that, it makes all the android framework crash and reboot if I try to open any geolocation-using app (like Google Maps or the camera with geo-ON). Any hint to solve this issue? I really want to get rid of these services, for battery and privacy reasons (in particular, battery improvements are really noticeable!).
UPDATE: I don't get this bug UNLESS I reboot the phone. If I do, I get this issue. If I don't, Maps still works even with these services disabled. I'd like anyway to solve this problem so I don't have to make laborious procedures everytime the phone reboot (I already have to kill 5 motorola processes, i.e. Motocare and Motorola Services ones).
I've attached a pair of screens to clarify my situation. I'm on the STOCK and NO-ROOTED rom.
Thank you very much in advance

So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
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Durteedee said:
So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
Sent from Sauwny the TL
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No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me

I basically meant stock and stripped like CM11 without Gapps
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zack.1988 said:
No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
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Basically, you're going to have to root and flash your phone. You can't remove Google services on stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
NO GAPPS PROJECT THREAD said:
I am one of those who do they everyday work without google stuff and without gapps. I found out several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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this thread may interest your needs

SamsungAdmire said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
this thread may interest your needs
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Thank you for the intereeting link. Unluckily it regards mainly rooted devices... Pretty interesting though

Let me see if I get this right. You purchased a phone manufactured by Google, using a stock Rom compiled by Google, and you are trying to used Google software (Google Maps or Motorola Camera software- by Google) and you find it surprising that the system crashes after disabling Google's framework? And you are hoping to solve this without rooting or flashing a custom Rom? Seriously?
Sorry for the ironic tone, but you really need to give the idea of making a thread for this a second thought, my friend.

No problem for the ironic tone,but I can ensure you that I'm running Google Maps and (Motorola, not Google!) Camera App geotag WITHOUT having these two services enabled, and they work flawlessy the problem is ONLY when I REBOOT the phone, in which case I must enable and disable again these services in order to make apps with geolocation work without crashing the system. I will attach a screenshot of my running processes in the STOCK and NOROOT rom, and I ensure you that apart this small, boot-time issue, everything works great on my phone (with a great battery boost, I've been able to achieve 9 hours of screen time plus 1hr of calls, what do you think?).
I've about 50 apps installed, I just don't like Motorola and Google ones because they keep running about all the time, sucking out a lot of private data and battery juice

Well I am new to Android and also have/had problems using the moto g. I disabled all Google apps and stuff I could find and the OS is not really stable, I get quite a few hiccups and the phone crashes every now and then. I thought the nova launcher might be the problem, but I also suspect the OS in general.
But unlike you I don't use any Google stuff, so not even maps.
Well, I am selling the phone anyway.

No crashes here apart this Maps tweak, so it sound's really weird... maybed you disabled some critical services. On my device, with kitkat 4.4.2, ART compiler, everything is more than stable. You could try a factory reset or switching from Dalvik to ART too...

Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.

rugerredhawk said:
Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Before saying that, try and let me know
(as soon I will use it in a regoular way - I.e. not gaming and not browsing all the time - I'll post a screenshot proving the 9 hours of screen time, that I wasn't able to reach with Google services enabled)

Ive had 9 hours screen time with google services enabled but that was just doing light stuff ,got 2.5 days out of my last battery charge but that was with only 5 hours screen time but mine is rooted and greenified now.
Cant think of a solution to your problem sorry,guess you will just have to avoid rebooting.

yes, I guess so...

I need to reinstall Google play services on my moto g how do I do this?

This thread is over a year old and totally unrelated to your question. Searching the forums is my advice because you are pretty unlikely to find an answer to your question by posting in this particular thread

[q]can google play store and play services be installed as user apps?

Will the play store and play services work if I sideload them as user apps?
I currently have them as system and they are constantly running in the background and use battery and overheat the phone.:crying:
Will this behaviour top after I turn them into user apps?
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M_Maha said:
Will the play store and play services work if I sideload them as user apps?
I currently have them as system and they are constantly running in the background and use battery and overheat the phone.:crying:
Will this behaviour top after I turn them into user apps?
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Don't attempt to move google playstore or google play services as it might become a serious trouble. If I were you I'll use DU Speed Booster or SD Maid to stop apps from running at boot and save battery.
Never underestimate a kid whose poor in cash but rich in time.

Ragkhuza said:
Don't attempt to move google playstore or google play services as it might become a serious trouble. If I were you I'll use DU Speed Booster or SD Maid to stop apps from running at boot and save battery.
Never underestimate a kid whose poor in cash but rich in time.
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Your suggested methods will fail because even if i stop them at boot they restart afterwards
But if I install them as user apps will they work?
Moving them will not make the system unstable,I suppose ;but the apps should run

I installed the play store and play services user
Then i opened the play store and it closed without any mesage of FC or anything
then i tried the play services i.e. the google settings app and it worked
Can anyone tell me whats going on with play store and why it closes
Anyone who is willing to try this and develop a solution?

M_Maha said:
I installed the play store and play services user
Then i opened the play store and it closed without any mesage of FC or anything
then i tried the play services i.e. the google settings app and it worked
Can anyone tell me whats going on with play store and why it closes
Anyone who is willing to try this and develop a solution?
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Install the playstore to System again. Google playstore needs access to system in order to work properly.

Ragkhuza said:
Install the playstore to System again. Google playstore needs access to system in order to work properly.
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May be we will convert this to development thread.
We"ll try to make play store run as user app
or atleast find the reason why that wont work
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M_Maha said:
Will the play store and play services work if I sideload them as user apps?
I currently have them as system and they are constantly running in the background and use battery and overheat the phone.:crying:
Will this behaviour top after I turn them into user apps?
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try to greenified it..
to do that download and install greenify in the google play store.. for free
what it does it hibernate a app that prevents suddenly unexpected background processes that eat battery. If you open a greenified app it will work normally ..
pinkLeviosa<3
just tryin' to help, so i hope it works:good:

Already use it
pinkLeviosa said:
try to greenified it..
to do that download and install greenify in the google play store.. for free
what it does it hibernate a app that prevents suddenly unexpected background processes that eat battery. If you open a greenified app it will work normally ..
pinkLeviosa<3
just tryin' to help, so i hope it works:good:
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Thanks but I already use that since i bought the phone! And it works too i just made this thread coz xda didnt allow me to post in development threads until i post 10 posts
Anyways I will delete this thread or close it or whatever

yeah, you should close this thread if your intention are done... :victory:
pinkLeviosa<3

[Tip]Using Play Store Without Play Services

I came across an interesting workaround today regarding the annoying refusal of Google Play Store to run when Google Play Services is not enabled. Running the following in a terminal will disable a component of Google Play Services that prevents the check when you start the Play Store:
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.recovery.RecoveryService
Note: I have not tested this enough to know if there are any significant drawbacks yet.
I can say that this will finally allow Google Play Services to be greenified (although other components such as Google Backup Transport seems to occasionally prevent greenification). In addition, it seems to stop all those logs from being written to /data/system/dropbox/, which I personally found to be very irritating, and found the alternative solution of setting the folder to read-only to be problematic.

Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.

bsimpson1 said:
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
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I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.

sonyu said:
I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
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Yeah, there is absolutely no workaround.Play Services forms the core for the Google Playstore App.hence it can't function without it.

didito said:
Will try this when I get the root.
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Yea, go ahead.
...Just wanna let you guys know, there's a google thread, in which people talk/ed bout the purpose of .services. Turns out you really need that sh*t!XD
It's like a framework you simply need to have installed- just like @donniemceduns said. ^ ^
Off-topic ― now, I'm on CM11, with no Google Play installed, therefore no .services running. I simply installed an alternative market. ^ ^

didito said:
Wow.. Can you tell me what alternative market you installed?
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I tried them all — Mobogenie used to be ****ty, works fine now.
.apk link- DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINK
Has all the apps from Google Play. No sign-in required.
I didn't like it; it's okay now. Use it as my primary market
If you find a better market, make sure to share a link!

didito said:
Thanks for the link. One question though. Lets say I install a kitkat rom. Can I remove all the Play Store services and their dependencies to improve my phone's performance? I plan to do this and let Mobilegenie be my only market. If this is possible how can I remove these services for good?
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Hi Didi,
Yea, sure.
You already know this, but for all the people who didn't bother to read the thread, removing .services will result in errors, whenever you try to open a google application(Play store for instance), which requires .services.
I used a kitkat ROM before- deleted all G-apps and installed my alternative market. No errors! ^ ^
As for Mobogenie, it's my primary market on CM11. It features autoupdates, even auto-install if your device is rooted. Sweet! :good:
UPDATE:
Oh, sorry @didito! Didn't notice the "how can I remove these services for good" part.
Install an Uninstaller app for rooted devices( Your device must be rooted).
In-app: Navigate to SYSTEM APPS & remove google play services and google play store.
If you're not sure which app to use, try "Root App Delete".

Question... Or, an observation anyway... Sorry to bring back an old thread but I've been wondering a similar thing
On my newer device, Samsung Galaxy s5 neo, play services are needed to run the play store. *however*, on my older device, Samsung captivate glide, play services are not required to open the store.
Both using stock but rooted software from Samsung.
Why would this be that it's possible on 1 but not the other?
Unless maybe because I have already debloated my older device, maybe removing other gapps is what it would take?
I don't have a data plan and therefore wouldn't use much if any of them (maps, etc)
It just has me wondering what has changed between the 2, and maybe even if I'd be able to use and run my other devices play store app, and then use disable service to stop it from fully updating?
Hmm... I know everyone else has likely given up long ago.... But I've been curious today.

[Q] Google play services causes battery drain on moto g

Hii everyone i am using moto g xt1033 with stock rom, unrooted,bootloader locked..i am having noticeable battery drain on my moto g when my phone is idle..i found that google play services(google location service) is causing the battery drain..i tried to force stop but doesnt work..just disabling the app works...but the google play services is necessary for google apps like youtube,playstore,gmail etc..so plzz give me any solution to stop this unnecessary battery drain...thank you

On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help

madman said:
On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help
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i had tried to uninstall google play service update...then the battery drain stops but the thing is many google apps require new version of google play services to work..that is the reason i am so irritated with this thing..i tried many things but nothing works

Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).

me_is_rushin said:
Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).
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i do not use gps its most of the tym turned off..and currently i have disabled google play services so i cant post screenshot regarding battery drain..but the point is that google location services always keeps running in background taking much RAM and i think this service is generating unnecessary events for location,which results in waking up the cpu frequently,wasting cpu cycles which results in battery drain during the phone is idle..and i also downloaded an app namely GserviceFix but this app also didnt work for me..so any suggestion

Use greenify pro

Google play services will always be running.

I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..

amolgosavi said:
Use greenify pro
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i dont think it will work,coz i am running stock rom without root..and no xposed..well i vl gv it a try..thanks

madman said:
I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..
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well thanks for your support...i will wait till official lollipop update arrives..hope lollipop will fix this issue

me_is_rushin said:
Google play services will always be running.
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sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.

zahid111 said:
sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.
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No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.

me_is_rushin said:
No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.
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i know that but some services are not necessary like location services it keeps always running and drains your battery..and you cant force stop that..this issue was not before Google play services version 6..when it got updated to version 6 then this problem arises..you can check process stats in developer options..than you will came to know its not normal. it keeps running all the time.dont you ever noticed battery drain during night when your phone is in idle mode..which version of google play services are you using???are you rooted or not..well i think @madman will also try to help you make understand...he is a senior member here and well knowing...

update google play services

K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
update google play services
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its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists

zahid111 said:
its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists
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use greenify download it from play store.

K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
use greenify download it from play store.
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i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..

GServiceFix
zahid111 said:
i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..
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Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.

K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.
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bro i tried that app also and used that several times but didnt work..

Is there any solution for that? Im experiencing battery drain on 5.1.1., then on Euphoria-OS, no matter the version (20.08.2015 now).
I can use private setting to blok waking up and preventing a sleep for Google Play Service but then I have error message "google services stopped" every other second.