Will the play store and play services work if I sideload them as user apps?
I currently have them as system and they are constantly running in the background and use battery and overheat the phone.:crying:
Will this behaviour top after I turn them into user apps?
M_Maha said:
Will the play store and play services work if I sideload them as user apps?
I currently have them as system and they are constantly running in the background and use battery and overheat the phone.:crying:
Will this behaviour top after I turn them into user apps?
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Don't attempt to move google playstore or google play services as it might become a serious trouble. If I were you I'll use DU Speed Booster or SD Maid to stop apps from running at boot and save battery.
Never underestimate a kid whose poor in cash but rich in time.
Ragkhuza said:
Don't attempt to move google playstore or google play services as it might become a serious trouble. If I were you I'll use DU Speed Booster or SD Maid to stop apps from running at boot and save battery.
Never underestimate a kid whose poor in cash but rich in time.
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Your suggested methods will fail because even if i stop them at boot they restart afterwards
But if I install them as user apps will they work?
Moving them will not make the system unstable,I suppose ;but the apps should run
I installed the play store and play services user
Then i opened the play store and it closed without any mesage of FC or anything
then i tried the play services i.e. the google settings app and it worked
Can anyone tell me whats going on with play store and why it closes
Anyone who is willing to try this and develop a solution?
M_Maha said:
I installed the play store and play services user
Then i opened the play store and it closed without any mesage of FC or anything
then i tried the play services i.e. the google settings app and it worked
Can anyone tell me whats going on with play store and why it closes
Anyone who is willing to try this and develop a solution?
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Install the playstore to System again. Google playstore needs access to system in order to work properly.
Ragkhuza said:
Install the playstore to System again. Google playstore needs access to system in order to work properly.
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May be we will convert this to development thread.
We"ll try to make play store run as user app
or atleast find the reason why that wont work
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M_Maha said:
Will the play store and play services work if I sideload them as user apps?
I currently have them as system and they are constantly running in the background and use battery and overheat the phone.:crying:
Will this behaviour top after I turn them into user apps?
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try to greenified it..
to do that download and install greenify in the google play store.. for free
what it does it hibernate a app that prevents suddenly unexpected background processes that eat battery. If you open a greenified app it will work normally ..
pinkLeviosa<3
just tryin' to help, so i hope it works:good:
Already use it
pinkLeviosa said:
try to greenified it..
to do that download and install greenify in the google play store.. for free
what it does it hibernate a app that prevents suddenly unexpected background processes that eat battery. If you open a greenified app it will work normally ..
pinkLeviosa<3
just tryin' to help, so i hope it works:good:
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Thanks but I already use that since i bought the phone! And it works too i just made this thread coz xda didnt allow me to post in development threads until i post 10 posts
Anyways I will delete this thread or close it or whatever
yeah, you should close this thread if your intention are done... :victory:
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I came across an interesting workaround today regarding the annoying refusal of Google Play Store to run when Google Play Services is not enabled. Running the following in a terminal will disable a component of Google Play Services that prevents the check when you start the Play Store:
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.recovery.RecoveryService
Note: I have not tested this enough to know if there are any significant drawbacks yet.
I can say that this will finally allow Google Play Services to be greenified (although other components such as Google Backup Transport seems to occasionally prevent greenification). In addition, it seems to stop all those logs from being written to /data/system/dropbox/, which I personally found to be very irritating, and found the alternative solution of setting the folder to read-only to be problematic.
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
bsimpson1 said:
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
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I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
sonyu said:
I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
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Yeah, there is absolutely no workaround.Play Services forms the core for the Google Playstore App.hence it can't function without it.
didito said:
Will try this when I get the root.
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Yea, go ahead.
...Just wanna let you guys know, there's a google thread, in which people talk/ed bout the purpose of .services. Turns out you really need that sh*t!XD
It's like a framework you simply need to have installed- just like @donniemceduns said. ^ ^
Off-topic ― now, I'm on CM11, with no Google Play installed, therefore no .services running. I simply installed an alternative market. ^ ^
didito said:
Wow.. Can you tell me what alternative market you installed?
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I tried them all — Mobogenie used to be ****ty, works fine now.
.apk link- DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINK
Has all the apps from Google Play. No sign-in required.
I didn't like it; it's okay now. Use it as my primary market
If you find a better market, make sure to share a link!
didito said:
Thanks for the link. One question though. Lets say I install a kitkat rom. Can I remove all the Play Store services and their dependencies to improve my phone's performance? I plan to do this and let Mobilegenie be my only market. If this is possible how can I remove these services for good?
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Hi Didi,
Yea, sure.
You already know this, but for all the people who didn't bother to read the thread, removing .services will result in errors, whenever you try to open a google application(Play store for instance), which requires .services.
I used a kitkat ROM before- deleted all G-apps and installed my alternative market. No errors! ^ ^
As for Mobogenie, it's my primary market on CM11. It features autoupdates, even auto-install if your device is rooted. Sweet! :good:
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Oh, sorry @didito! Didn't notice the "how can I remove these services for good" part.
Install an Uninstaller app for rooted devices( Your device must be rooted).
In-app: Navigate to SYSTEM APPS & remove google play services and google play store.
If you're not sure which app to use, try "Root App Delete".
Question... Or, an observation anyway... Sorry to bring back an old thread but I've been wondering a similar thing
On my newer device, Samsung Galaxy s5 neo, play services are needed to run the play store. *however*, on my older device, Samsung captivate glide, play services are not required to open the store.
Both using stock but rooted software from Samsung.
Why would this be that it's possible on 1 but not the other?
Unless maybe because I have already debloated my older device, maybe removing other gapps is what it would take?
I don't have a data plan and therefore wouldn't use much if any of them (maps, etc)
It just has me wondering what has changed between the 2, and maybe even if I'd be able to use and run my other devices play store app, and then use disable service to stop it from fully updating?
Hmm... I know everyone else has likely given up long ago.... But I've been curious today.
Hi everyone!
In this thread you find a small guide for get more free RAM on your device (about 40-50mb: screenshot).
First of all you need root permissions.
Second install DisableService. Now open it and select Google Play Services, so uncheck:
AdRequestBrokerService
AnalyticsIntentService
AnalyticsService
BrokeredFitnessService
CastService
CoreAnalyticsIntentService
DeviceConnectionServiceBroker
DispatchingService
GcmService
GeocodeService
GeofenceProviderService
GoogleLocationManagerService
GoogleLocationService
LocationWearableListenerService
NlpLocationRecieverService
WatchdogService
WearableControlService
WearableService
You'll get a lot of free RAM but I don't know what work and what doesn't work now.
Credits
rhen (modaco.com) for his guide
@hastalafiesta for his guide (and also Varioflex (androidiani.com) for his guide)
@AG ROXXX!!! for his help
@axxx007xxxz
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Nice suggestion but I've blocked installation of google play services and installed old google apps which does the same trick!
GUIDE UPDATED.
I have also disabled SystemUpdateService but I don't know what doesn't work now.
axxx007xxxz said:
GUIDE UPDATED.
I have also disabled SystemUpdateService but I don't know what doesn't work now.
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I had disabled it before you updated this thread.
It doesn't affect anything!
axxx007xxxz said:
GUIDE UPDATED.
I have also disabled SystemUpdateService but I don't know what doesn't work now.
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I suppose that was the process checking for new firmware updates
you might add this to the OP.
It doesn't matter much now.
we aren't going to get any official updates now
Another thing , the NlpLocation service is the notorious google play process.
It wakes up the device at regular intervals.
Disabling it might actually save a bit of battery
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Disabling the NlpLocation service won't cause any problems unless you use apps which depend on your location like Google Maps weather reporting apps etc.
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what about eventlogservice and ConfigFetchService in google play services?
A better solution: DELETE Google play services
A better solution: DELETE Google play services
Then nothing of Google will work anymore
Aryan Chaurasiya said:
Then nothing of Google will work anymore
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Google Play works, Google Translate works, and I think that other apps work.
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Hii everyone i am using moto g xt1033 with stock rom, unrooted,bootloader locked..i am having noticeable battery drain on my moto g when my phone is idle..i found that google play services(google location service) is causing the battery drain..i tried to force stop but doesnt work..just disabling the app works...but the google play services is necessary for google apps like youtube,playstore,gmail etc..so plzz give me any solution to stop this unnecessary battery drain...thank you
On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help
madman said:
On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help
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i had tried to uninstall google play service update...then the battery drain stops but the thing is many google apps require new version of google play services to work..that is the reason i am so irritated with this thing..i tried many things but nothing works
Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).
me_is_rushin said:
Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).
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i do not use gps its most of the tym turned off..and currently i have disabled google play services so i cant post screenshot regarding battery drain..but the point is that google location services always keeps running in background taking much RAM and i think this service is generating unnecessary events for location,which results in waking up the cpu frequently,wasting cpu cycles which results in battery drain during the phone is idle..and i also downloaded an app namely GserviceFix but this app also didnt work for me..so any suggestion
Use greenify pro
Google play services will always be running.
I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..
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Use greenify pro
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i dont think it will work,coz i am running stock rom without root..and no xposed..well i vl gv it a try..thanks
madman said:
I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..
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well thanks for your support...i will wait till official lollipop update arrives..hope lollipop will fix this issue
me_is_rushin said:
Google play services will always be running.
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sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.
zahid111 said:
sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.
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No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.
me_is_rushin said:
No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.
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i know that but some services are not necessary like location services it keeps always running and drains your battery..and you cant force stop that..this issue was not before Google play services version 6..when it got updated to version 6 then this problem arises..you can check process stats in developer options..than you will came to know its not normal. it keeps running all the time.dont you ever noticed battery drain during night when your phone is in idle mode..which version of google play services are you using???are you rooted or not..well i think @madman will also try to help you make understand...he is a senior member here and well knowing...
update google play services
K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
update google play services
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its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists
zahid111 said:
its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists
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use greenify download it from play store.
K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
use greenify download it from play store.
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i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..
GServiceFix
zahid111 said:
i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..
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Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.
K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.
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bro i tried that app also and used that several times but didnt work..
Is there any solution for that? Im experiencing battery drain on 5.1.1., then on Euphoria-OS, no matter the version (20.08.2015 now).
I can use private setting to blok waking up and preventing a sleep for Google Play Service but then I have error message "google services stopped" every other second.
Hello,
My dad bought himself a Mate 9 Pro in China and brought it back home today. I've installed the GMS from the HiApp app store and downloaded the Google Play store from there as well.
When I try to download apps from the Play store, the apps won't download. It continues to say "downloading" but no progress is being made.
I am downloading apks in the interim, but would be much more convenient if I could take advantage of the Play Store.
Am i doing something wrong? The build number is b156, if I'm reading it correctly.
I've tried:
- Deleting cache and data from Google Play Store
- Reinstalling GMS
- Allowing unknown sources for app downloads (i.e. from places other than HiApp) and app installations.
- Granting all permissions to Play Store and Play Services
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
PekingGoose said:
Hello,
My dad bought himself a Mate 9 Pro in China and brought it back home today. I've installed the GMS from the HiApp app store and downloaded the Google Play store from there as well.
When I try to download apps from the Play store, the apps won't download. It continues to say "downloading" but no progress is being made.
I am downloading apks in the interim, but would be much more convenient if I could take advantage of the Play Store.
Am i doing something wrong? The build number is b156, if I'm reading it correctly.
I've tried:
- Deleting cache and data from Google Play Store
- Reinstalling GMS
- Allowing unknown sources for app downloads (i.e. from places other than HiApp) and app installations.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Check the permissions in the app settings, make sure Play store has access to internal storage. I just allowed all permissions for the play store and any google related services.
Do not try anything else. I have tried all kinds of solutions including the ones you listed above. Just be patient and wait for system update to solve the problem and download some 3rd party store like apkpure as a temporary solution
azukayx said:
Check the permissions in the app settings, make sure Play store has access to internal storage. I just allowed all permissions for the play store and any google related services.
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I forgot to mention that, but yes, I did grant all permissions to play store and Google Play services, but I'm still having issues. Thanks for the response !
azukayx said:
Check the permissions in the app settings, make sure Play store has access to internal storage. I just allowed all permissions for the play store and any google related services.
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ba703863 said:
Do not try anything else. I have tried all kinds of solutions including the ones you listed above. Just be patient and wait for system update to solve the problem and download some 3rd party store like apkpure as a temporary solution
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Yeah, I may just do that for now. My dad doesn't use that many apps anyway so I can probably just download the rest of the apks he needs and install them manually as well. Thanks!
pls i need good link to get google play services, the ones have been downloading keeps draining my battery...pls any help?
If it aint downloading it aint google play services...
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You don’t understand, I need a good link to download a non battery draining google play services. The ones have been downloading and installing keeps draining my battery.
Any link to download and install a good one?
vash_h said:
If it aint downloading it aint google play services...
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johnniearchangel said:
You don’t understand, I need a good link to download a non battery draining google play services. The ones have been downloading and installing keeps draining my battery.
Any link to download and install a good one?
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If it doesnt drain battery, it isn't Google Play Services.
Also, it is very advisable to stick to the one pre-installed on your phone. The ones you downloaded may not be suitable, or might been tampered with.
If you do not intend to use any google services, then just uninstall "updates" then disable it. viola power drain plugged. But be warned, you WILL get loads of FCs on apps or just by doing nothing. many many many apps / phone functions rely on Google Play Services.
having said all those, do you even know what google play services is? it drains battery for a good reason, because it is running many things in the background.
Google play services is involved in almost everything you do with your phone, from dialing numbers to sms to location services etc..
Also, when you say you have been downloading and installing different versions of Google play services, be warned, using the wrong version will cause a bigger drain on your phone battery.
thanks alot, i know what it is but i deleted the pre installed version on my phone (le max 2)...guess i will have to re install my OS then....sad and annoying
vash_h said:
If it doesnt drain battery, it isn't Google Play Services.
Also, it is very advisable to stick to the one pre-installed on your phone. The ones you downloaded may not be suitable, or might been tampered with.
If you do not intend to use any google services, then just uninstall "updates" then disable it. viola power drain plugged. But be warned, you WILL get loads of FCs on apps or just by doing nothing. many many many apps / phone functions rely on Google Play Services.
having said all those, do you even know what google play services is? it drains battery for a good reason, because it is running many things in the background.
Google play services is involved in almost everything you do with your phone, from dialing numbers to sms to location services etc..
Also, when you say you have been downloading and installing different versions of Google play services, be warned, using the wrong version will cause a bigger drain on your phone battery.
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