Why Edge Sense doesn't work when screen is off ? - HTC U11+ Questions & Answers

Hi. Does your Edge Sense feature work when the screen is off but the phone is on ?
For some reason mine doesn't work even though I don't have any PIN code setup or pattern or whatever. I don't use the fingerprint sensor either. So no security feautures set up as of right now. I've also checked the checkmark in the Edge Sense settings that says "enable Edge Sense when sreen is off".
What the...

lebigmac said:
Hi. Does your Edge Sense feature work when the screen is off but the phone is on ?
For some reason mine doesn't work even though I don't have any PIN code setup or pattern or whatever. I don't use the fingerprint sensor either. So no security feautures set up as of right now. I've also checked the checkmark in the Edge Sense settings that says "enable Edge Sense when sreen is off".
What the...
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My U11 plus Edge Sense works when screen is off, I use it for the camera when I see something I want to snap and long squeeze for the Edge launcher shortcut.

lebigmac said:
Hi. Does your Edge Sense feature work when the screen is off but the phone is on ?
For some reason mine doesn't work even though I don't have any PIN code setup or pattern or whatever. I don't use the fingerprint sensor either. So no security feautures set up as of right now. I've also checked the checkmark in the Edge Sense settings that says "enable Edge Sense when sreen is off".
What the...
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Is your proximity sensor is block by anyway (like screen protection) ? Mine doesn't work if proximity sensor is blocked

Kidy973 said:
Is your proximity sensor is block by anyway (like screen protection) ? Mine doesn't work if proximity sensor is blocked
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Yes you are right. That's probably the reason why. I still use that screen protection layer that came with the phone. I will remove it ASAP.
Thanks again.

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Using fingerprint scanner without screenlock?

Hi, I hate having i screenlock, be it password, pattern or fingerprint - it's just to uncomfortable, especially being lefthanded and having a flipcover.
But, I'd still like to use fingerprint authentication in certain apps, like my bank's app. However it doesn't seem possible to activate the scanning functions and registering prints without having a screen lock active.
Does anyone know how to get around this (no root)?
I would also like to know as well. I am using Microsoft Next as my lock screen and I apparently am unable to only use the lock screen with the fingerprint scanner. I keep getting forced to have a pin or pattern which sucks.
toth42 said:
Hi, I hate having i screenlock, be it password, pattern or fingerprint - it's just to uncomfortable, especially being lefthanded and having a flipcover.
But, I'd still like to use fingerprint authentication in certain apps, like my bank's app. However it doesn't seem possible to activate the scanning functions and registering prints without having a screen lock active.
Does anyone know how to get around this (no root)?
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You can pair your phone with a Bluetooth device, such as Bluetooth wristband, and enable Smart Unlock then you may bypass the PIN.
ykkhern said:
You can pair your phone with a Bluetooth device, such as Bluetooth wristband, and enable Smart Unlock then you may bypass the PIN.
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Sure, but then I'll have to walk around with some bluetooth thing. I don't want that, I just want to be able to use the fingerprint selectively, without it locking the phone.
[Wazzup4567] said:
I would also like to know as well. I am using Microsoft Next as my lock screen and I apparently am unable to only use the lock screen with the fingerprint scanner. I keep getting forced to have a pin or pattern which sucks.
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Had never heard of Next, now I already love it - thanks!
I think that's not possible. Fingerprint adds a security layer, but if for some reason it's not supported by an app or if for any reason you cut your finger and your fingerprint it's not readable anymore, you must have a backup unlock method.

Edge Sense broken alter a small drop?

So yeah as the title says Edge Sense stopped working after the drop from the bed.
Funny thing though the visual ques when you sqeeuze it still works but my camera or any other action for that matter won't work.
Was on Venom Rom 1.5 when it happenend, a reflash didnt fix it.
So yeah I HTCdev unlocked my phone, are there steps i can follow so my warrenty still works or is it void?
oGrady said:
So yeah as the title says Edge Sense stopped working after the drop from the bed.
Funny thing though the visual ques when you sqeeuze it still works but my camera or any other action for that matter won't work.
Was on Venom Rom 1.5 when it happenend, a reflash didnt fix it.
So yeah I HTCdev unlocked my phone, are there steps i can follow so my warrenty still works or is it void?
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you sure that it is not just a misconfiguration?
Try disabling the custmizations in VenomTweaks->Edge Sense (Disable "Enable custoization to set custom actions").
Then also disable the pocket detection (maybe your proximity sensor just got broken?)
Now go to Settings->Edge Sense and ensure it is enabled and ou have appropriate settings set.
j to the 4n said:
you sure that it is not just a misconfiguration?
Try disabling the custmizations in VenomTweaks->Edge Sense (Disable "Enable custoization to set custom actions").
Then also disable the pocket detection (maybe your proximity sensor just got broken?)
Now go to Settings->Edge Sense and ensure it is enabled and ou have appropriate settings set.
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Thnx for replying Jan.
All of that stuff is off, did a fresh flash of venom 1.6 and at the Edge Sense setup sqeezing does nothing now so I cant even set it up, so I think its busted.
oGrady said:
Thnx for replying Jan.
All of that stuff is off, did a fresh flash of venom 1.6 and at the Edge Sense setup sqeezing does nothing now so I cant even set it up, so I think its busted.
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just to be sure flash a RUU.
j to the 4n said:
just to be sure flash a RUU.
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Yeah, that was the next thing on my list.
Edit: Your might be correct about the proxmity sensor being the culprit. Pulled a sensor testing app fron the playstore and it keeps giving the same measurement as the proximity value.
oGrady said:
Yeah, that was the next thing on my list.
Edit: Your might be correct about the proxmity sensor being the culprit. Pulled a sensor testing app fron the playstore and it keeps giving the same measurement as the proximity value.
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HTC devices have just two values "Near" and "Far".
Type *#*#3424#*#* into your dialer to start the HTC functions Test.
select "P-Sensor" it is the 2nd last in the first column of tests.
Cover the Proximity sensor. If the brightness of the screen decreases, the test works.
Still, even if it is broken, it shouldn't affect Edge Sense.
Pocket detection is just a feature of ViperU.
Just when the proximity sensor is covered during a call, Edge Sense gets deactivated.
j to the 4n said:
HTC devices have just two values "Near" and "Far".
Type *#*#3424#*#* into your dialer to start the HTC functions Test.
select "P-Sensor" it is the 2nd last in the first column of tests.
Cover the Proximity sensor. If the brightness of the screen decreases, the test works.
Still, even if it is broken, it shouldn't affect Edge Sense.
Pocket detection is just a feature of ViperU.
Just when the proximity sensor is covered during a call, Edge Sense gets deactivated.
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Oke I'll write that thing down for the future.
Did the P-Sensor test, it worked so it's not broken.
There is also an Edge-Sensor test which is for Edge Sense I presume.
Funny thing, that worked too so it must be software related instead.
Edit: Got it to work again by first actually turning the custum settings fot edge sense on in Venom Tweaks, then rebooting, turning them off again then rebooted again and alter that i got though the setup procedure for Edge Sense so all is well now.
Thread can be closed, but might be useful for others.

Pocket unlock

Had anyone experienced their device being unlocked while in their pocket. Mine had several times, even some quick toggles have been changed from where I had them set. Apps opened, not just opened but digging into multiple button presses. Even today mi wife says I called her twice while phone in pocket. I use fingerprint security with pin backup and somehow phone is bypassing both of theses in my pocket. I've tried numerous times to replicate out of my pocket with no avail. I'm on stock TMobile no mods or rooted.
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Had anyone experienced their device being unlocked while in their pocket. Mine had several times, even some quick toggles have been changed from where I had them set. Apps opened, not just opened but digging into multiple button presses. Even today mi wife says I called her twice while phone in pocket. I use fingerprint security with pin backup and somehow phone is bypassing both of theses in my pocket. I've tried numerous times to replicate out of my pocket with no avail. I'm on stock TMobile no mods or rooted.
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It happened many times for me.. you might be having Smart Lock enabled... even then, proximity sensor on OnePlus 7 Pro isn't good.. but disabling smart Lock should fix your issue
Yeah I checked and smart Lock has always been off
I encountered the same issue today
anoymonos said:
Yeah I checked and smart Lock has always been off
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Weird. Do you have fingerprint lock enabled?
Yes I do. From what I can find on the web previous OnePlus devices had a Pocket Mode which is not present on the 7 pro. But viewing T-Mobiles website under settings list it shows it is in the utilities section under settings. But not on my phone. I even searched for it with the search option at the top of settings menu.
I've also noticed that in settings under utilities there is a section called app locker, when I click on it, it asks for pin and then just resorts back to the utilities menu giving me no option to add apps to list. It does nothing.
anoymonos said:
Yes I do. From what I can find on the web previous OnePlus devices had a Pocket Mode which is not present on the 7 pro.
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What Pocket Mode did (I had it on my 3T) was ignore screen touches, if the proximity sensor sensed an object nearby (assuming it was your pocket).
Even without Pocket Mode, a press on the screen, or movement of the gyro should only turn on the "ambient display" screen. You can't do anything from that screen except scan your fingerprint (which you confirmed you have fingerprint security enabled). So I'm puzzled how the butt dials or other things occurred in your pocket.
I suppose it's possible the power button is being accidentally pressed in your pants. Which brings up the lock screen - slightly different from the ambient display screen, as it gives access to the quick toggles, camera and voice assist. But it would seem like a strange combination of accidental power button pressing and screen touches happening in your pants, to make the things you mentioned happen. TWSS
Also the fingerprint is disabled whenever I take my phone out of pocket,It says too many attempts
Yes I also get that message
RISHI RAJ said:
Also the fingerprint is disabled whenever I take my phone out of pocket,It says too many attempts
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Got this very message this evening along with flight mode being activated. Pocket mode badly needs to be reintroduced by OnePlus
Can anyone who has converted to international firmware confirm that pocket mode is or is not present in the settings under utilities?
anoymonos said:
I've also noticed that in settings under utilities there is a section called app locker, when I click on it, it asks for pin and then just resorts back to the utilities menu giving me no option to add apps to list. It does nothing.
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Why don't you put on your pocket with the screen facing outside?
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Hank87 said:
Why don't you put on your pocket with the screen facing outside?
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Because of the job that I have. I work with heavy steel sharp and blunt edges , not willing to chance my beautiful screen
anoymonos said:
Can anyone who has converted to international firmware confirm that pocket mode is or is not present in the settings under utilities?
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Not to be found :good:
I've had the same issue, but temporarily solved or at least appears to have by turning off lift to wake
Never had lift to wake on as I assumed it would cause issues like this
Hey Guys what screen mode Do You use,I used Nature mode but it's on a warmer side & can't adjust sliders.Can I change through a custom kernel?
If you just look in the settings there is custom mode under natural that allows adjustment. Stock room stock kernel.
anoymonos said:
If you just look in the settings there is custom mode under natural that allows adjustment. Stock room stock kernel.
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In advanced there is but nothing in nature mode

[No root] Finally, an app to enable native Lift To Wake (lockscreen)

TL, DR. Where is the download?
github.com/xubowenhaoren/OPLiftToWake/releases
What does it do?
This is a simple app to enable Lift To Wake for OnePlus 7 series.
It is not the Lift To "Ambient Display" in the stock Settings App; it enables the true Lift To "Lock Screen" like other phones.
Why do I want this feature?
You've probably already known that OnePlus, in Android 10, reveals the notification content on the lock screen after Face Unlock.
But to see those notifications, you either need to:
1. Pick up the phone and unlock with your finger at the Ambient Display. A two-step process.
2. Pick up the phone and press the power button. Again, a two-step process.
Now with the app, you can pick up the phone and the lock screen immediately shows up.
How does it do this?
It listens to the native system sensor (`oneplus.sensor.pickup`). In my testing, it is very power efficient.
What phones does it support?
I have tested this on a OnePlus 7T with Android 10. It should also work with other OnePlus 7 series.
Note that for earlier OnePlus phones, there is also a [pickup sensor] but with a different name.
If you want this app to work with earlier OnePlus phones, you should try replacing this line in `Utils.java` with the correct sensor name:
```
mSensor = Utils.getSensor(context, mSensorManager, "oneplus.sensor.pickup");
```
How do I use it?
You probably want to turn off the Ambient Display first.
After installing the app, turn on the "Lift To Wake" toggle.
You should also consider turning off the battery optimization of the app for a more consistent background performance.
Do I need Magisk for this?
No, it is root-free.
Credits
Much of the code is from the Lineage OS team.
Other code references can be found in the code comments.
Love this feature thank you!
Works like a charm ? thanks.
Awesome! will give it try, hope there is no battery drain.
Great to see! Cheers
It is still a 2 step procedure when i use face unlock along with fingerprint.
It should be a command that when I pick up the phone -> auto open lockscreen -> auto trigger face unlock.
When i want to use fingerprint, just tap to wake ambient display and unlock with fingerprint.
I really dont want to sacrifice FOD to use only face unlock.
_DoomD_ said:
It is still a 2 step procedure when i use face unlock along with fingerprint.
It should be a command that when I pick up the phone -> auto open lockscreen -> auto trigger face unlock.
When i want to use fingerprint, just tap to wake ambient display and unlock with fingerprint.
I really dont want to sacrifice FOD to use only face unlock.
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This is the app for you then. Also, you don't lose FOD at the lock screen.
bwx074 said:
This is the app for you then. Also, you don't lose FOD at the lock screen.
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You dont get my point, bro. When you use both FOD and face unlock, this app just show the lockscreen when pick up. Then u have to choose putting your finger on FOD or pressing the face icon button on top of the clock to unlock.
My desire is that the app will trigger the face unlock automatically in that situation.
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You dont get my point, bro. When you use both FOD and face unlock, this app just show the lockscreen when pick up. Then u have to choose putting your finger on FOD or pressing the face icon button on top of the clock to unlock.
My desire is that the app will trigger the face unlock automatically in that situation.
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I am using a OnePlus 7T. In my case, when the lock screen lights up, Face Unlock automatically works and my new messages reveal their content.
bwx074 said:
I am using a OnePlus 7T. In my case, when the lock screen lights up, Face Unlock automatically works and my new messages reveal their content.
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Do you use only face unlock?
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Do you use only face unlock?
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I have both Face Unlock and fingerprints set up, but I mainly use Face Unlock. Hence the need for this app
bwx074 said:
I have both Face Unlock and fingerprints set up, but I mainly use Face Unlock. Hence the need for this app
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Weird!!! Something prevents the app from triggering face unlock automatically. Maybe because of the pop up camera firmware in 7 pro.
Pocket detection doesn't appear to work on OP7 Pro. ? Great work tho!
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Pocket detection doesn't appear to work on OP7 Pro. Great work tho!
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My OP7T doesn't even have a pocket mode, so I can't test that for you. However, the original Lineage OS code had support for pocket mode. You could try to add it! :good:
It's cool. Kinda slow thought.
If I turn off the notification, will it keep running?
And thanks for it, really useful:good:
joechan said:
If I turn off the notification, will it keep running?
And thanks for it, really useful:good:
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Yes, I've tested this.
Facing a minor problem. The app has to be opened up to function after deep sleep i:e in the morning. The battery optimization is off for the app.
Any ideas how to fix the issue.
Nice I love it. Great job sir. ?
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You dont get my point, bro. When you use both FOD and face unlock, this app just show the lockscreen when pick up. Then u have to choose putting your finger on FOD or pressing the face icon button on top of the clock to unlock.
My desire is that the app will trigger the face unlock automatically in that situation.
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Same here.

Accidental Fingerprint on the f2 pro

Whenever my hand lands on the fingerprint when iam holding the phone it vibrates and its annoying unlike my previous k20 pro i didnt face this problem there must be some toggle or settings that i can enable to remove this problem any suggestions ????? Thank you ....
BassilZ said:
Whenever my hand lands on the fingerprint when iam holding the phone it vibrates and its annoying unlike my previous k20 pro i didnt face this problem there must be some toggle or settings that i can enable to remove this problem any suggestions ????? Thank you ....
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Add two fingerprints
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Thaiban said:
Add two fingerprints
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How is tha gonna stop accidental fingerprint detection and vibration??
The solution is to deactivate the fingerprint sensor ?
More seriously, there is no false detection, the sensor is doing its job, as soon as it feels a finger it tries to visualize the fingerprint, I do not see what is boring, If it wasn't so sharp it would be a nightmare to unlock the device !
coyot352 said:
The solution is to deactivate the fingerprint sensor
More seriously, there is no false detection, the sensor is doing its job, as soon as it feels a finger it tries to visualize the fingerprint, I do not see what is boring, If it wasn't so sharp it would be a nightmare to unlock the device !
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No, you're wrong. It could be set to only vibrate when it detects a correct fingerprint. Which would be much more logical in my opinion. Or give the option to only activate the fingerprint sensor after power button is pressed.
popoyaya said:
No, you're wrong. It could be set to only vibrate when it detects a correct fingerprint. Which would be much more logical in my opinion. Or give the option to only activate the fingerprint sensor after power button is pressed.
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the vibration is not there to validate the unlocking, something that we see anyway when the home screen opens, but to say that the analysis of the finger starts and that we are at the right place..
The last option might be fine for you, but personally it's a waste of time having to press a key before I can scan my finger, not sure Poco implements this In a future update ! ?
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the vibration is not there to validate the unlocking, something that we see anyway when the home screen opens, but to say that the analysis of the finger starts and that we are at the right place..
The last option might be fine for you, but personally it's a waste of time having to press a key before I can scan my finger, not sure Poco implements this In a future update !
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These options should be there for those who want them, they're easy to implement. Options are good I too find it annoying reaching into my pocket and having the phone light up and vibrate unintentionally.
Yeah noticed that also here where it rarely happend with my k20. It's just the new fingerprint placement.
popoyaya said:
These options should be there for those who want them, they're easy to implement. Options are good I too find it annoying reaching into my pocket and having the phone light up and vibrate unintentionally.
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Yes indeed having more options is positive, I'm just saying that I don't think they will, as it's a pretty special option that very few require.
Normally if you are looking for the device in the pocket, it should not turn on or vibrate because it is deactivated by the proximity sensor, in any case mine remains as dead if I hide the part upper screen..
I hope for you that a function will emerge
For me, it is clear that the "old" hardware fingerprint sensor is much better than the modern software sensor that's imposed on new devices.
But we cannot change this, so yes : some options for lock screen vibration activation-deactivation are welcome. Me too don't like to feel the phone vibration every time I touch accidentally the screen trying to extract something of my pocket, including the phone.
BassilZ said:
Whenever my hand lands on the fingerprint when iam holding the phone it vibrates and its annoying unlike my previous k20 pro i didnt face this problem there must be some toggle or settings that i can enable to remove this problem any suggestions ????? Thank you ....
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You can disable 'haptic feedback' in the settings, it will disable the fingerprint sensor's vibration too.
Lowxorx said:
You can disable 'haptic feedback' in the settings, it will disable the fingerprint sensor's vibration too.
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But that disables vibration system wide doesn't it?
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But that disables vibration system wide doesn't it?
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Yes, only for interactions like button press, gestures,etc.

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