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http://www.pcworld.com/article/165470/htc_to_sell_google_android_smartphone_in_china.html
Is it too early to start speculating on what features the Chinese phones will have over G1's?
Also,
HTC, Lenovo, Samsung and LG are all developing the handsets, called "OPhones," according to telecom research firm BDA.
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I can just imagine Lenovo's phone: ugly black brick that crashes 3 times a day.
I don't understand why the Lenovo would crash a lot.... Every Lenovo laptop i've had, including past IBM's have been amazingly strong and have great fit and finish.
Ahh, you mean this? I'd love to see a port of the interface (in english, ofc!)
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I don't understand why the Lenovo would crash a lot.... Every Lenovo laptop i've had, including past IBM's have been amazingly strong and have great fit and finish.
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While thinkpads were still made by IBM they were indestructible. One actually nearly killed me (airbags, laptops, faces and car crashes don't mix well..) worked perfectly fine after replacing the LCD. My T61 made by lenovo does not even come close to quality of the old ones.
Chahk said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/165470/htc_to_sell_google_android_smartphone_in_china.html
Is it too early to start speculating on what features the Chinese phones will have over G1's?
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I can just imagine Lenovo's phone: ugly black brick that crashes 3 times a day.
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Wow, old news. Engadget had a story on this like months ago(they called it KIRF of the iphone, which was completely ridiculous and led to them being constantly mocked for the next several days for it). At any rate, looks like an interesting interface.
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I don't understand why the Lenovo would crash a lot.... Every Lenovo laptop i've had, including past IBM's have been amazingly strong and have great fit and finish.
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You must be very lucky. I've used 5 different models of Thinkpads at work (T41 and T42 back when they were still part of IBM, T61, X61 and latest X61 Tablet) and every single one did not survive for more than 6 months without suffering some sort of a mechanical failure. Other co-workers are experiencing similar results.
Also, the sheer amount of crapware that comes pre-loaded with one of these machines will bog it down to a crawl.
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Ahh, you mean this? I'd love to see a port of the interface (in english, ofc!)
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I'm not overly impressed with the UI. Although judging by that video, it seems a lot more responsive than my G1. Is it running on a better hardware? If so, I'd rather see a Cupcake/Rosie/Hero port onto an OPhone
grabiarz said:
While thinkpads were still made by IBM they were indestructible. One actually nearly killed me (airbags, laptops, faces and car crashes don't mix well..) worked perfectly fine after replacing the LCD. My T61 made by lenovo does not even come close to quality of the old ones.
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Thinkpads were built by IBM, but had Lenovo branding on their product tags. Then Lenovo bought out IBM's line of laptops. Either way they make damn good products. When I was in Florida doing a network install I accidently knocked my t61 off the ladder which fell about 6 feet. Not one scratch on it and nothing broke at all. Man was I amazed
Also, my old t43, that is who knows how old, still works with exception for a little noisy cpu fan. But other than that, i trash this laptop and it still works just fine.
When exactly is this comin out. Does any body know?
IBMs have always always served me right im always traveling and i even took one to iraq while serving for marines and it survived amazingly
Hi all.
In a akward position, im limited in money and I own a Omnia 7 proven to not work with my carrier. Im on no contract for this phone, this is my second Omnia i'm now giving up on, im returning it after maaaany failuers from Samsung.
Also a friend have the LG Optimus 7 and its working great, but the SD card compared to NAND memory is visible and the screen is no good and compared to Omnia screen, not very exact on screen positions (i type i and keep getting u, and i can misstype the same letter like 4 times on a row. No, the LG are to sliw and to sheply made phone.
Now the hard thing being limited on money is knowing (and gets confirmed to some degree) they will now charge almost the double and that i cant afford.
I love big screens and looked at HD7 and while it seems to me to be the only solid working phone compared, it's not equiped with compass, the screen have got many talking(never seen it myself) And then its the Venue Pro, right screen, but it seems to be just as bothersome as Omnia 7 with buggs and errors Samsung is giving up on trying to fix. Also noted in DVP forum is that the camera is horrible compared to some WP7 models and no anti-shake!? DVP seems to have the compass etc that mango is opening up for thou. And changing SD card seems to be easy (need at least 16GB minimum and only 8GB availble here)
So what can i do, im about to give up on great hardware that no other WP phone can match (the speed of the NAND memory is visible compared to th LG phone at least) and move on to ... Nothing? Pricing on the new WP seems to get high and im about to become phone less. Im left betrayed by Samsung and will NEVER ever again rekomend there products.
HD7 and DVP is the only screen sizes i would use ... i feel lost.
So any HD7 and DVP owners that can give a helping advice to clear my foggy brain? I can't decide ... plz help.
HTC 7 Mozart, End of discussion best phone I have ever had and will be buying it bakc agian can handle any other phone.
The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
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The LG Optimius is the only wp7 phone (HTC 7) wiht 2nd gen qualcoom msm8255 , and its the cheapest
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Lovly, but a lot looks nice on paper. And the reality is diffrent. They must have messed up the rest. Its like, i got 650 bhp in my car but only one one gear that takes me max to 50 Kmph (30mph?) No good race car there since its kind of crippled.
Note: darn its fun to do funny comparisons. Heres one free.
Buying a Samsung Omnia 7 is the same experience as buying a new luxury sportscar, only to find they forgott to deliver a complete car, and all you get is the chassi.
What issue do you have with Omnia 7 and your wireless provider?
Also, LG Optimus 7 actually uses NAND. HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro uses microSD.
yeh , htc show two new phone s just a moment,you know?\
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What issue do you have with Omnia 7 and your wireless provider?
Also, LG Optimus 7 actually uses NAND. HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro uses microSD.
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Random call gets muted, cant hear the the other, thou call is clearly connected. Also a random issue is that voices gets throu but gives a robotic voice to us calling so nobody can hear the other. This can happen 10 calls in a row.
Internet speed is sloooow most of the times. This is the only phone in our COUNTRY reporting this issue and never experienced anything like it. Add to that that there trying to cover it up. Oh the story is looong and i seriously dont want to hear the name Samsung in my preasence. Everything the done up till now is setting a example of how to NOT treat there customers. So while being a MS fan, and still beliving in the more the merryer, i still would be happy if they went out of bussniess, they clearly showed me they have nothing to do in it ... to not explode of anger thinking about the .....
Change of topic... My friend broke his screen on his Optimus 7 (told him but did he listen? nooo Clearly a SD card installed so maybe there diff versions out?
And new topic again.
Yeah, saw the new HTac devices and also expected pricing. I would not use a phone with smaller screen then 4', and that is stretching it. So even if the screen mqy be bad, its a solid device and a obvious choise. But the price ... i bought my Omnia on a special price and therefore when money gets back, it wount be enough. All i get is like... oh, dont know dollar from top of my head, but it wont be enough thou. :'(
DVP is a fantastic phone. Get a T-Mo or unbranded version so you can get the latest firmware. I have *no* glitches/bugs at all, it is rock solid.
The only issue is that the camera is not great, but with Mango you can tweak settings and save them persistently, which mitigates this a lot.
I have a DVP and mine is rock solid too. The recent firmware update has resolved the crashing with Wifi. In the old firmware, the microSD card and Wifi were using the same DMA channel, so conflicting.
Of course, it's always possible to get a bad handset, so if you get a DVP wait until you're sure it's stable before swapping out the microSD card. Dell will void your warranty if they notice that you have removed the black tape covering the microSD slot.
The DVP is relatively thick / heavy compared to the Omnia 7 because it has a very good hardware keyboard. If you want a keyboard, the DVP is a great phone! As you mention, the camera is not the best, although better with Mango.
Shame you can't afford the Mango generation devices!
So the issuess with DVP camera is not so much the quality of pic´s as the actuall funkctions of it that will get fixed then?
Thnx for your replyes, and thickness isn´t that of a issue. The Omnia 7 had nice hardware, that what draw me in as the main thing. And i like the picture quality.
And yeah, shame on my economy holding back for a Titan, it spells everything i wanted exept maybe the screen. One you go Omnia 7 black you neverwant to go back =)
Id go with an HTC phone in general. Been using the brand along time, about 6 years. I personally have an HD7 and Id say its a pretty solid phone.
As far as the compass goes there is one available through HTC hub in HTC apps.
Not that Im biased but HTC has been around along time and has proven quality. Look at Samsung troubles with there first wp7 update. Thats after I had heard that samsung doesnt update there drivers like HTC does.
Id go with an HD7 again. Even the new phones arent that much of an upgrade from the HD7. Im waiting a few months to see if HTC comes out with anything better. AMOLED screens being one, dual core processors. Now thats an upgrade.
Not to mention easy chevron unlock and HSPL for the HD7.
I like the heft of my HTC. Really "feels" like superior build quality.
Intressting notes on HD7 thnx.
I also am a long time user of hTC, my last being the HD2. Now hTC have had a lot of bad software work in past but on the WP7 devices the way hTC works seems to fitt the new OS like a glove.
The screen quality + the bad software made me give Samsung a chance. While they never have had good rep on there phones, the shown dedication on Android devices during 2010 gave me confidence that they would not repeat past mistakes, they have once again confirmed they have nothing to do in the mobile market. And IF you have a working Samsung phone, pray to the all mighty you dont need to seek there help, cuz you will get the worst customer support i ever experienced.
Im itchy for a hTC device again, but looking att Dell im curious, allthou i should by now for my own peace of mind settle for a devi e proven stabile. Only screens and the real GEO services that made me a bit carfull on HD7. And concerning screens, what is it with hTC and good screens!?
mm, HD7 or DVP, seems you guys are giving what i was scared of, very good and solid points.
Still have some time since its taking its sweet time sorting paperwork.
The point about the DVP camera is that it's poor quality, especially in low light. The flash is totally in adequate and can result in a yellow banding effect because there's a covering over it that tints the light it emits.
On Mango you can tweak the camera settings similarly to how it worked before Mango, *BUT* you can finally persist the settings. There are some settings like sports mode and futzing with the ISO etc that make it better.
Also, Mango has the ability to take a photo when the screen is tapped, which helps keep the phone still and minimizes blurry shots -- before this I found it nearly impossible to get a clear pic at all.
So, now it's "*barely* passable" instead of "utterly horrible."
I think the DVP is the best WP7 device out there (until the Mango ones come out, I guess).
I've got the HD7 and it's a great device. Love the big screen and the cool design The kickstand is also a nice feature to have. You can't really make out a difference between MicroSD and NAND when it comes to everyday usage. NAND may be faster but you won't notice the difference. I'm really happy with it and I'd never sell it (well - maybe for a Windows Phone 7 phone with dualcore processor, front cam and Tango or Apollo on it ). And a compass is available via Marketplace (HTC only). HTC will also release HTC Watch and HTC Locations for WP7 and the HTC Hub will get a major update.
So...Take the HD7, maybe put the Mango RTM on it and you'll be as happy as a little kid
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Optimus_7 It's the QSD8650, which is basically exactly the same as the QSD8250 that all the other 1st gen phones are using.
Hi all,
This is acctually my third Pro 7, I really love this phone.
Has anyone tought, what could be next successor of Pro 7/WiMo Mango,
withe same formfactor.
Regards
I too love my 7 Pro. But really think it should have a bigger screen! I nearly exchanged it for a HD7 the other week.
But until another Windows Phone comes out with a faster CPU, bigger screen and landscape keyboard I will probably keep my good old 7 Pro
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Hi all,
This is acctually my third Pro 7, I really love this phone.
Has anyone tought, what could be next successor of Pro 7/WiMo Mango,
withe same formfactor.
Regards
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I was actually wondering the same thing about a wk ago...
All my research showed nothing I couldnt even find a whisper. Now that I have internet sharing I can go a year without a new phone if need be.
If you find anything though post it here so we can drool
well nothing yet...
I really hope that nokia surprises us
Yup same here. Bigger screen would be nice... AND S-AMOLED .. But other than that, really great piece of hardware... Really well built, firm... Good design, slim etc... All and all, a really great device, best I ever had. I think I will be using this also for a long time. Thats why I updated the memory to 32gb.
Nokia will be coming out with a device for us, but when I dont know... I do know that at least partly it has to do with the OS not fully supporting landscape. Which of course can feel little weird for someone when using the hw kb, but for me it does not matter. Landscape works where it needs.
Off topic, but does anyone else find the keyboard a bit clunky to use?
I came from a Touch Pro 2 and I sometimes feel I've been downgraded(dont get me wrong, I definitely dont miss having to soft reset the phone every day). I could easily churn out a paragraph without having to look; but after nearly a year of acclimating to the handset, I still miss a stroke every other word
Not really. You will get used to this one... Unless you have HUGE fingers
I actually love this phone. but I do not have a free navigation application can use.
Never mind.
Heard on the rumour mill (can't remember where, so sorry, no links) that Acer were developing an Apollo (WP8) device with HKB.....
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Hey, guys, I love this form factor - horizontal slider with QWERTY keyboard and tilting screen. But it has become rare these days. Unfortunately, the majority of brainwashed crowds out there want thin phones without keyboards.
I am looking for a new phone with the same form factor. With Android or WP.
Recently, HTC made an announcement that they will not release any more phones with keyboard. That's horrible
Motorola Droid 4 is good but it is not sold in Europe
So I continue looking around...
just bought my 4th 7 Pro, at least now there is AMEX insurance on it.
keeping it locked cabinet until this one dies
anyone knows good full body protective skin for 7 Pro?
Hey XDA,
My beloved Omnia 7 has sailed off into my sister's hands, and I was left stranded on an island of sadness, phoneless.
But no matter, as the power of the intertubes brought me here, and much other places.
I am looking for a savior budget phone.
And I found one.
No, folks, it's not a WP7 device as you may have anticipated, ala the shining turd that is the Nokia Lumia 610 (or some other
generic, faecal device). I have ventured to the lands of china and have explored options I would have not dared to before due to fear
of SARS, rape, and being casually ripped off by scamers.
And guess what, brotha? It appears like the Hero 9300+ is my guy.
Yeah, yeah, I know. A clone, not to mention a modified one. But if this is a turd, it's a sparkling one, worth a whole $200 dollars.
Some specs (the most important + drawbacks):
-CPU: MTK6577, two cores running at a generic 1GHz. Seems like a piece of ****, but one that flies pretty fast. Antutu scores look rather promising.
-GPU: SGX-531. The old cousin of our modern SGX-540's and 544's. Not bad, not great. It does the job for me given I can play
generic time wasters like Dead Trigger at a solid 30fps with next to no lag.
--OS: Android 4.0.4 (marketed off as 4.1 JellyBean; the developers thought they could fool us English folks by editing the SDK during ROM creation, har har har. ******s.)
-RAM: 512MB. This may be a problem given ICS takes up what, 300MB? Plus I want to run a launcher (Why? Because **** you, that's why) which will take up additional memory space.
-Camera a world class piece of ****. 5MP marketed as 8MP, records video at who knows what resolution. (I will be installing another ROM for this bad boy which will enable 1080p recording unless you guys have better suggestions how to pimp this thing up).
BEST PART: Gorgeous 5.3 inch display.
Anyways, that's that for specs.
Price is $210, with Fedex delivery, from Pandawill (Safe? Not safe? Hm, got PayPal covering my ass anyway).
THE ULTIMATE QUESTION:
Is there anything around this price that beats the **** out of this but has a display which is not too small?
Am I making the right decision here?
Thanks matey for giving this your two cents. It's all appreciated.
LINK:
http://www.pandawill.com/i9300-smar...oid-40-mtk6577-1g-ram-3g-gps-wifi-p66034.html
I highly doubt you would find another phone that isn't from china that has those specifications and price tag, however, I still wouldn't buy the phone because...well it's from china and not of a legitimate/recognised phones manufacturer. I would instead pass this phone and maybe save up another 100 dollars and get a phone of similar specs (maybe not the same screen size) from htc, sony, samsung etc. just for the security, support, safety and the mods
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I highly doubt you would find another phone that isn't from china that has those specifications and price tag, however, I still wouldn't buy the phone because...well it's from china and not of a legitimate/recognised phones manufacturer. I would instead pass this phone and maybe save up another 100 dollars and get a phone of similar specs (maybe not the same screen size) from htc, sony, samsung etc. just for the security, support, safety and the mods
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Hey matey, thanks for the reply.
I don't think I can agree with you more. This is a huge risk and I know it, although review have been rather positive (which, I must say, is encouraging).
Given the price point and the fact that I need a phone ASAP, I am not so sure I can bang out another $100 bucks for an imaginary phone with similar specs; I mean, this thing performs closely to the galaxy nexus- a ~$500 device. I also found out that Chinese phones are going to be blessed with new quad and oct core processors in Q4 2012 and Q2 2013, respectively. Going to be an insane jump, but I bet they will be price accordingly.
Thanks for your response nonetheless, I'll definitely go ahead and snoop around for brand devices right now.
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Hey matey, thanks for the reply.
I don't think I can agree with you more. This is a huge risk and I know it, although review have been rather positive (which, I must say, is encouraging).
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Glad to see you coming around in your mindset... imho, buying some Chinese knockoff is only asking for trouble. If it were my decision to make, I'd find a friend with an old Android you can use and buy a real phone with a warranty, a little support, and some quality behind it. The specs may be one thing, but if I know Chinese knockoffs, everything about the case/finish/etc will be absolute junk.
I'd rather use a non-Android for a while, personally...
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Glad to see you coming around in your mindset... imho, buying some Chinese knockoff is only asking for trouble. If it were my decision to make, I'd find a friend with an old Android you can use and buy a real phone with a warranty, a little support, and some quality behind it. The specs may be one thing, but if I know Chinese knockoffs, everything about the case/finish/etc will be absolute junk.
I'd rather use a non-Android for a while, personally...
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I was actually looking into WP7 devices earlier because my previous device was one. I am sad to note that nothing compares other than an old Samsung Focus (much like my Omnia) from the US for $170. I mean, it's not too bad, but I feel it's time for an upgrade. I snooped around other shops, nothing comes close to the Hero, but your suggestions have shaken me up a bit. I'll be wary as this online buying thing is no game of tag- they can disappear on you.
What did you eventually purchase?
I have X710D and did have a bad experience with the seller, but eventually found another seller who I have now purchased many phones from with great success.
In relation to Chinese phones, I have to say walk with care as many fiddle the OS version number and it always pays to ask as many questions as possible prior to purchase. If there are features that you want then ask for confirmation, if they don't know then treat this as a warning about the seller.
Quality: I have no problem with the quality of build of Chinese phones. I do however have an issue with some stupid design decisions - like the 3.5mm headphone jack on the X710D - can't take standard headphones.
Just found out that the X710D has stopped manufacture, so hope that a better design is coming.
9300+ looks promising.
Hi all.
I too was in the market for a new phone and purchased a 9300+ from a site called Android for cheap and I can tell you it's a great phone. It's zippy and handles anything you can throw at it. I'm running wp8 custom on mine and it looks beautiful on the big screen. I'd recommend this phone to others as have I already. Gaming on it has no lag and due to the multi touch screen its really responsive.
I've had mine for 3 months and I think when I eventually purchase a new phone it will probably be a newer model of the same phone..... If they are still in existence then lol.
All in all its an awesome phone. I don't think you will be disappointed
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Hi there,
I do not own this phone, but the Compact version, however I have tried both models extensively. I have been VERY pleased with the phones, but when I started playing PUBG Mobile I detected something odd, that avoided me to aim properly, sometimes the touchscreen wouldn't track the touches when they are very slow or precise.
I could try this in the XZ2 (not Compact) as well, and there's definitely a problem with the screen sensitivity, I'm not sure how to define it, but it feels like a dead zone that moves with your finger. The phone will not detect small movements, kind of a precision problem. The tracking is just not good enough.
I have a video and pictures to demonstrate the issue, comparing the sensibility to my other phone (Galaxy S8):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc55o-36uC4&feature=youtu.be
And a picture:
https://imgur.com/a/LIzyV
I'm returning the phone, and I'll buy again if Sony fixes this via software (I hope they will!). I will gladly replace my S8 with this XZ2 Compact if we ignore this problem.
Comments are welcome.
Same problem with my XZ2 there's a dead zone easily noticeable when doing smalls movements on the touchscreen. FPS games are unplayables.
There's also huge imput lag like 150ms +
I will keep my XZ2 because I'm very pleased with it and I don't play games but I do not recommand this phone for gamers.
I hope it's software issue
Seb122 said:
Same problem with my XZ2 there's a dead zone easily noticeable when doing smalls movements on the touchscreen. FPS games are unplayables.
There's also huge imput lag like 150ms +
I will keep my XZ2 because I'm very pleased with it and I don't play games but I do not recommand this phone for gamers.
I hope it's software issue
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Have you tried to contact Sony support? I'm a bit frustrated, they told me to apply whatever update there is, perform a factory reset, run the device diagnostics, and if the problem persists, that means it is hardware and I should contact local support to get it repaired or exchanged. They closed my support ticket after giving that response, without waiting for my response.
They obviously didn't understand or care about the issue here. The screen diagnostics test is passed, but the issue is still there.
I don't know what to provide in order to get somebody from Sony support look at the case and evaluate escalating the ticket to whatever team that handles bugs.
This is oreo problem actually. I'm surprised not many people realize this. I'm a YouTube tech reviewer and tested many phones. So far I've encountered this problem on oneplus 5t, Huawei p20 pro, and now xz2 all on oreo.
Oreo running phones that are free from this problem is s9, mi mix 2s, pixel 2 xl (though it has multi touch problem)
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This is oreo problem actually. I'm surprised not many people realize this. I'm a YouTube tech reviewer and tested many phones. So far I've encountered this problem on oneplus 5t, Huawei p20 pro, and now xz2 all on oreo.
Oreo running phones that are free from this problem is s9, mi mix 2s, pixel 2 xl (though it has multi touch problem)
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So do you think this could be a software problem? If that's the case this may be solved with software update.
Has someone contacted and received an oficial comfirmation from oneplus, Huawei or Sony that they are aware of the problem? If it happens only on oreo maybe someone with technical knowledge can ask on google android forums.
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This is oreo problem actually. I'm surprised not many people realize this. I'm a YouTube tech reviewer and tested many phones. So far I've encountered this problem on oneplus 5t, Huawei p20 pro, and now xz2 all on oreo.
Oreo running phones that are free from this problem is s9, mi mix 2s, pixel 2 xl (though it has multi touch problem)
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I have to admit when I saw your post I thought you were confusing this problem with some input lag or delay, and was very skeptic about your opinion. My apologies, because in the afternoon I went to some tech store and confirmed what you said, you're totally right. As you mentioned, I don't understand how is not everybody talking about this! Hawei P20 = same issue, Nokia phones = same issue (but maybe less pronounced). Only Samsung, Xiaomi and LG phones were free from it.
Then I went home and started googling, and people complained about similar things on the Pixels before the 8.1 update, and in the essential phone before the 8.1, etc. so basically in those phone that have "cleaner" android or closer to AOSP. Google messed up something in 8.0, ***probably*** fixed it in 8.1, but introduced the infamous multitouch issue instead.
The puzzling thing is that the previous generation, the XZ1, doesn't have this problem. Also came out with Oreo already.
Please let us know what is the name of your YouTube channel, you earned a lot of credibility for me with a single post
Although i'm very grateful for the explanation and trying to believe it, some things don't match together.
First i have to say that also my not yet mentioned U11 does not suffer from this problem.
I also tried the honor 9 some months ago and that device had similar issues (but worse) on Android 7 and 8, no difference.
Saying that 8.1 might solve it - don't you think there is a way the manufacturers COULD do it themselves before?
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Although i'm very grateful for the explanation and trying to believe it, some things don't match together.
First i have to say that also my not yet mentioned U11 does not suffer from this problem.
I also tried the honor 9 some months ago and that device had similar issues (but worse) on Android 7 and 8, no difference.
Saying that 8.1 might solve it - don't you think there is a way the manufacturers COULD do it themselves before?
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You're totally right. The assumption here is that the error originated in AOSP but can be fixed by manufacturers as well, not only by Google.
Or maybe we are taking the wrong approach and it's exclusive to digitizers produced by certain manufacturer, like Synaptics, goodix, etc.
All in all, we can be 90% certain that it's a software thing. Potentially connected to some hardware choices from manufacturers, but almost definitely fixable by software, if they put the effort.
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I have to admit when I saw your post I thought you were confusing this problem with some input lag or delay, and was very skeptic about your opinion. My apologies, because in the afternoon I went to some tech store and confirmed what you said, you're totally right. As you mentioned, I don't understand how is not everybody talking about this! Hawei P20 = same issue, Nokia phones = same issue (but maybe less pronounced). Only Samsung, Xiaomi and LG phones were free from it.
Then I went home and started googling, and people complained about similar things on the Pixels before the 8.1 update, and in the essential phone before the 8.1, etc. so basically in those phone that have "cleaner" android or closer to AOSP. Google messed up something in 8.0, ***probably*** fixed it in 8.1, but introduced the infamous multitouch issue instead.
The puzzling thing is that the previous generation, the XZ1, doesn't have this problem. Also came out with Oreo already.
Please let us know what is the name of your YouTube channel, you earned a lot of credibility for me with a single post
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K2 gadgets is my YouTube channel but it is in Indonesian lol..
My wife's u11 on 8.0 suffers from this problem, but its not as pronounced. I can only experience it if I track REALLY slow and accurate, then the sudden jump in movement can be seen. not as pronounced as in the xz2.
The fact is that when we use touchscreen tester app, it detects instantly our finger touching the screen, but not detecting incremental movement after that. So I think it is not touchscreen lag. I think it's a matter of software problem, most likely a Google screw up. A driver/preference file such as this one https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-multi-touch-bug-google-pixel-2-xl-android-oreo/ may fix the whole thing.
It is like the phone intentionally disregarding slight movements on the screen as accidental swipes.
Why on earth this problem is not well known since it is happening in a lot of phones? I guess not many people move their fingers in such ways as avid fps gamers :laugh:
I have this problem too. Can't properly play Street Fighter IV CE. After 51.1.A.3.159 firmware update situation is much better but not 100% good.
Allesa said:
K2 gadgets is my YouTube channel but it is in Indonesian lol..
My wife's u11 on 8.0 suffers from this problem, but its not as pronounced. I can only experience it if I track REALLY slow and accurate, then the sudden jump in movement can be seen. not as pronounced as in the xz2.
The fact is that when we use touchscreen tester app, it detects instantly our finger touching the screen, but not detecting incremental movement after that. So I think it is not touchscreen lag. I think it's a matter of software problem, most likely a Google screw up. A driver/preference file such as this one https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-multi-touch-bug-google-pixel-2-xl-android-oreo/ may fix the whole thing.
It is like the phone intentionally disregarding slight movements on the screen as accidental swipes.
Why on earth this problem is not well known since it is happening in a lot of phones? I guess not many people move their fingers in such ways as avid fps gamers :laugh:
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I remember in the old Galaxy S2 and the likes days, had the same annoying issue.
There was an App back then that resolved the issue completely - https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga.../ref-solving-touchscreen-sensitivity-t1161262
From what I gather, the minimum threshold to register a movement is there to allow convenient "Long Press". Long press is not triggered if the user for example is scrolling through home screens, so they added the threshold. If you ask me, long press should not be part of any touch os as it slows stuff down. Apple resolved it with Force touch.... (I hate apple and iOS)
On my HTC U11 i suffer the same issues, but I don't game much so I have not tried to fix it.
Also I have not tried but, maybe you should : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=apps.redpi.touchscreenrepair&hl=en
I tried touchscreen repair app but nothing changed after calibration... I doubt about this app, it seems to be fake. How does it work to modify touchscreen attributes without root acces ?
Same here
According to this thread, the value is set by the vendor and overriding a default one set to 8dip compared to 20dip in our device. In other words ACTION_MOVE event is not generated before the touch point travels the distance value in any direction. Might be wrong, though.
I also get the issues in my XZ2
I can't write fast with my keyboard.
Keystrokes are getting lost.
Here is your fix.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/fix-touch-screen-issue-t3723717
kekistaneerefugee said:
Here is your fix.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/70344455
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/fix-touch-screen-issue-t3723717
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Thank you, but I need twrp or root to do this.
We don't have twrp and rooting/unlocking will kill our drm keys.
I'm not using much apps/games that requires precision, so I haven't noticed this. The only issue I had with the touchscreen of my device (XZ2c) was selecting the radio button for the APN selection of Network management settings, that required high precision, too much for such a basic action.
Has anyone tried to enable Glove mode ? It's supposed to increase sensitivity, so it might help until a better fix is found. Or actually be worse, if the phone considers "bigger fingers" and increases the dead zone.
Glove mode doesn't change the existant dead zone, was one of the first things that i tried with my xz2 compact.
Btw i got a small update (0,7mb) today but no idea what it's for. Same security level (1. April) and no change in the touchscreen behaviour.
Anyone tried the Android P beta for the XZ2 whether did they fix it?
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Anyone tried the Android P beta for the XZ2 whether did they fix it?
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I see the Android P beta thread is getting some activity, so we would be grateful if somebody paid attention to this. Thanks in advance to whoever will test it!