Now Oreo beta build supports Qualcomm quick charge. Details here: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-android-oreo-fast-charging/
Interesting and weird that this was never a hardware limitation
mrchrister said:
Interesting and weird that this was never a hardware limitation
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It's sadly true, like the FM Radio available but not easily accessible from app
On my OnePlus charger (5v, 2000 mA), my phone draws 1930 mA on average with Oreo (which is significantly higher than the 900~ mA it did on N).
It did 2000ma with in box charger in my N
ur0 said:
On my OnePlus charger (5v, 2000 mA), my phone draws 1930 mA on average with Oreo (which is significantly higher than the 900~ mA it did on N).
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Which app do you use for the measurements?
gordito_gr said:
Which app do you use for the measurements?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
gordito_gr said:
Which app do you use for the measurements?
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https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B015F83X0U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use this to measure and with Nougat, get close to 2A/5v.
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On my OnePlus charger (5v, 2000 mA), my phone draws 1930 mA on average with Oreo (which is significantly higher than the 900~ mA it did on N).
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1930 mA is also drawn in N btw
pooniaprashant said:
1930 mA is also drawn in N btw
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Guess it was something with my device-charger combo then.
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Guess it was something with my device-charger combo then.
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The charging current fluctuates while charging, so it might be low when you measured Android N's power draw in mi a1
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Well, it isn't proved until someone gets the perfect readings, all when using a QC charger.
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Well, it isn't proved until someone gets the perfect readings, all when using a QC charger.
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Indeed, still gsmarena is a reliable source, also XDA has a article regarding this without quoting gsmarena. Btw, for me current charge time of this device is also decent.
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Well, it isn't proved until someone gets the perfect readings, all when using a QC charger.
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Do we know if the USB-C cable included with the phone is QC compatible? I have a QC charger that I can try to measure with tonight. The Choetech cables that I have are only 5V/2.4A compatible.
pooniaprashant said:
Indeed, still gsmarena is a reliable source, also XDA has a article regarding this without quoting gsmarena. Btw, for me current charge time of this device is also decent.
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But all of them point to the same telecomtech article.
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But all of them point to the same telecomtech article.
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Telecomtech too is reliable imho.
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Do we know if the USB-C cable included with the phone is QC compatible? I have a QC charger that I can try to measure with tonight. The Choetech cables that I have are only 5V/2.4A compatible.
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Try with a QC compatible cable from a friend or something... And I assume. You are already having the Oreo beta build?
Can I try to flash Oreo with the UpdateEngine magisk module or should I wait for official release?
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Do we know if the USB-C cable included with the phone is QC compatible? I have a QC charger that I can try to measure with tonight. The Choetech cables that I have are only 5V/2.4A compatible.
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I think it might be since it can handle the 5v 2amps charging with the original brick that came with the mobile. QC v2 just uses variable (5v/9v) voltage to quickly charge a mobile without needing to go higher than 2amps.
I watched a video on YouTube where that guy tried charging the phone with a quick charger but it didn't work...
It still took 2 odd hours to charge completely
kvn95ss said:
Try with a QC compatible cable from a friend or something... And I assume. You are already having the Oreo beta build?
Can I try to flash Oreo with the UpdateEngine magisk module or should I wait for official release?
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Not on Oreo yet but we need a baseline using the same hardware setup for testing on Nougat before we can have any reliable data on Oreo to compare with.
I'll test with Nougat later, maybe consider going to next Oreo beta (whenever that is). Really don't want to move to Oreo until xPosed is ready though.
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@graffixnyc or anyone with both the OPPO and OnePlus One
Does the OPPO VOOC charger provide a quick charge to the OnePlus One?
Even if they had both, I would not recommend trying that super charger on the One. There's is probably hardware needed to handle the increased amps and using it on another phone might melt your battery.
kokocabana said:
Even if they had both, I would not recommend trying that super charger on the One. There's is probably hardware needed to handle the increased amps and using it on another phone might melt your battery.
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Based on reading the kernel sources, find7op (aka One) has the required hardware on the phone side.
It really depends on if graffixnyc has tried it yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Tested. Working. :good:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753134
Tested. Working. :good:
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Thanks, now I'm definitely getting a OnePlus. Where'd you get the charger though?
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Thanks, now I'm definitely getting a OnePlus. Where'd you get the charger though?
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graffixnyc also owns a Find 7a.
Right now I'm not sure if you can buy the VOOC power supply separately from the device.
Any ideas on where to get a UK plug fast charger? I hear the Mate 8 plug works for fast charging.
I guess I won't even be able to find a car charger as well so my old fast chargers are useless now!
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I own a Mate 8 and I tried with the quick charger on P9 Lite and it's just charging normal
It's not a feature the quick charge on the P9 Lite. Hardware it's not there...
Oh I thought it was the same as P9 with hisilicon fats charge.but guess not...
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Charger included is "slow charge" 1A. Device is capable of 2A (not "fast charge")
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Charger included is "slow charge" 1A. Device is capable of 2A (not "fast charge")
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Hi, I am planning to buy this phone and the only thing holding me back is the slow charging time with stock 1A charger
Your comment provides some hope that phone can handle 2A [emoji846]
Is this your experience/observation or you found reference of this capability online?
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Hi, I am planning to buy this phone and the only thing holding me back is the slow charging time with stock 1A charger
Your comment provides some hope that phone can handle 2A [emoji846]
Is this your experience/observation or you found reference of this capability online?
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I found this
Although the Huawei P9 lite can receive two amps and 10 watts of power from a charger, Huawei includes only a one amp and five watt power supply with the P9 lite, which results in rather slow loading times.
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-p9-lite-review
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I found this
Although the Huawei P9 lite can receive two amps and 10 watts of power from a charger, Huawei includes only a one amp and five watt power supply with the P9 lite, which results in rather slow loading times.
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-p9-lite-review
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Thanks
This is promising
However, couple of users have replied in other threads that phone doesn't charge any faster with 2A charger
If only someone who had this device could actually test and confirm...
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Lieutenantdaan said:
Thanks
This is promising
However, couple of users have replied in other threads that phone doesn't charge any faster with 2A charger
If only someone who had this device could actually test and confirm...
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If i understand for proper charging you need 2A charger and 2A capable USB. I ordered from ebay OEM Huawei 2A 5V charger and 2A 5V capable USB (Nikilin) just to test will it work.
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If i understand for proper charging you need 2A charger and 2A capable USB. I ordered from ebay OEM Huawei 2A 5V charger and 2A 5V capable USB (Nikilin) just to test will it work.
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Great
Though I think any 2A charger and cable could probably work
Better be safe and use Huawei charger and best cable as you mentioned above
Do share your findings please...
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Lieutenantdaan said:
Great
Though I think any 2A charger and cable could probably work
Better be safe and use Huawei charger and best cable as you mentioned above
Do share your findings please...
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Ofc as soon as the shipment arrives.
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Ofc as soon as the shipment arrives.
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Hi I've ordered a 2.4A charger (ravpower) but with ampere app I see it charges slower than the original one, the same using a 2.4 powerbank
Is this phone compatible with 2.0A charging or you need the original huawei 2.0 charger?
@Bumblecito can you please check how much charges with the mate 8 charger? Thanks
Albyfenix said:
Hi I've ordered a 2.4A charger (ravpower) but with ampere app I see it charges slower than the original one, the same using a 2.4 powerbank
Is this phone compatible with 2.0A charging or you need the original huawei 2.0 charger?
@Bumblecito can you please check how much charges with the mate 8 charger? Thanks
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I think this phone can't take more than 1A
@Bumblecito confirmed the same in his post that Huawei mate 8 charger made no difference to charging time
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Lieutenantdaan said:
I think this phone can't take more than 1A
@Bumblecito confirmed the same in his post that Huawei mate 8 charger made no difference to charging time
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What a pity...but why in the reviews say that it can handle up to 2A?
Albyfenix said:
What a pity...but why in the reviews say that it can handle up to 2A?
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I was also misled by the same reviews and raised this query on xda
Several members have now confirmed it is limited to 1A
Guess those were just incorrect reviews...[emoji53]
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I spend a lot of time reviewing the dmesg output from the kernel and I have often seen mention an "FCC Limit" during charging. It is possible that the kernel is imposing a "limit" to be FCC compliant... Just a thought...
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I spend a lot of time reviewing the dmesg output from the kernel and I have often seen mention an "FCC Limit" during charging. It is possible that the kernel is imposing a "limit" to be FCC compliant... Just a thought...
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Mmm, but maybe if it was limited, is not a good idea to unlock it, right?
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I spend a lot of time reviewing the dmesg output from the kernel and I have often seen mention an "FCC Limit" during charging. It is possible that the kernel is imposing a "limit" to be FCC compliant... Just a thought...
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Interesting, is kernel source code releases by huawei? In that case someone could have a look...
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Lieutenantdaan said:
Interesting, is kernel source code releases by huawei? In that case someone could have a look...
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This is what I keep seeing in the log: https://github.com/Meticulus/androi...rivers/power/hisi/coul/hisi_coul_core.c#L2634
What I am seeing and measuring is that mine, the 3GB dual sim model, max current draw is 1.08 Amp.
This is the max the device will charge at no matter what if you connect a quick charge ... even a nuclear powerplant that can provide a billion Amps at 5V as long as the kernel or charging circuit is like now. A bit painful but I find the battery life to be good. Good enough so it won't be a deal breaker.
I've had phones that died while using the GPS in the car and on a charger, this one doesn't if you use a quality charger and cable.
So I'm about to buy this product
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apleok-Quic...hash=item568a0c78df:m:mk56L7t3uudLyJLi5lnRlsg
But I'm not sure about it so I wanna ask you guy that: Does Moto x Play support Quick Charge 3.0?
HerySean said:
So I'm about to buy this product
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apleok-Quic...hash=item568a0c78df:m:mk56L7t3uudLyJLi5lnRlsg
But I'm not sure about it so I wanna ask you guy that: Does Moto x Play support Quick Charge 3.0?
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AFAIK it's only 2.0
Benjamin_L said:
AFAIK it's only 2.0
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Thank you
it's backwards compatible, so it will work.
If i were you i would check on qualcomms website for quickcharge approved devices.
I use a quickcharge 3.0 charger and works just great.
mitzumr said:
it's backwards compatible, so it will work.
If i were you i would check on qualcomms website for quickcharge approved devices.
I use a quickcharge 3.0 charger and works just great.
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can you tell me how much charge current do you get with QC 3.0? is it really faster than 2..0? because the Moto X play only support 2.0 charge from what i've read.
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can you tell me how much charge current do you get with QC 3.0? is it really faster than 2..0? because the Moto X play only support 2.0 charge from what i've read.
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QC2.0 max out at 2.4A
QC3.0 max out at 3A
Correct me if I'm wrong
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QC2.0 max out at 2.4A
QC3.0 max out at 3A
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Sooo with QC 3.0 the charge current speed would be 3000 mAh?
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Sooo with QC 3.0 the charge current speed would be 3000 mAh?
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Only if you have a QC3.0 phone, charger that could provide 3A power and a USB cable that could handle/transfer 3A.
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Only if you have a QC3.0 phone, charger that could provide 3A power and a USB cable that could handle/transfer 3A.
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can Moto X play be capable of QC 3.0 charger ?
mitzumr said:
it's backwards compatible, so it will work.
If i were you i would check on qualcomms website for quickcharge approved devices.
I use a quickcharge 3.0 charger and works just great.
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So have much time does it take to charge your phone from 0-100% with QC 3.0?
Using Aukey QC3.0
Max was 2440mA
Charging while using the phone took 60m to reach 60%, another 60m to get it full (still using it). I've never tried to charge it without using it LoooL (I'll report back if I did so).
Don't make a habit of using the phone while charging, it generates more heat and shorten the battery life span
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Zeez Saud said:
Using Aukey QC3.0
Max was 2440mA
Charging while using the phone took 60m to reach 60%, another 60m to get it full (still using it). I've never tried to charge it without using it LoooL (I'll report back if I did so).
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What app are you using to display the charging current?
gewe said:
What app are you using to display the charging current?
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Ampere
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Don't make a habit of using the phone while charging, it generates more heat and shorten the battery life span
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Part of the Quickcharge system is the charge backs right off when the phone is in use therefore avoiding any extra heat.
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No, it will use a 3.0 charger as a 2.0 charger.
Using a Tronsmart QC 3.0 charger, takes about 45 mins to charge from 10% to 100% when turned off, about an hour in airplane mode, and under heavy usage, 2 hours.
Hi There,
Thinking of picking up the Honor 8 while I travel to the States. Just wanted to ask someone to clear up my confusion. So basically my question is:
Is the Honor 8 compatible with any Quick Charger ?
I know that most people have been saying that only the provided wall charger will quick charge the Honor 8 but , please excuse my ignorance/lack of knowledge here, if the provided charger is 9V/2A/18W , wouldn't a generic charger with those specs quick charge it as well ?
Also does the USB Type-C cable come into play with regards to the charging speed.
Thanks for any help. Just want to know because I'd like to have piece of mind that if I lose/break the provided wall charger I could buy another without paying the price of an Honor-Branded one.
Thanks
Muhdol said:
Hi There,
Thinking of picking up the Honor 8 while I travel to the States. Just wanted to ask someone to clear up my confusion. So basically my question is:
Is the Honor 8 compatible with any Quick Charger ?
I know that most people have been saying that only the provided wall charger will quick charge the Honor 8 but , please excuse my ignorance/lack of knowledge here, if the provided charger is 9V/2A/18W , wouldn't a generic charger with those specs quick charge it as well ?
Also does the USB Type-C cable come into play with regards to the charging speed.
Thanks for any help. Just want to know because I'd like to have piece of mind that if I lose/break the provided wall charger I could buy another without paying the price of an Honor-Branded one.
Thanks
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Only Huawei quick charger works, its the same charger on Mate 8 and P9 Plus.
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Muhdol said:
I know that most people have been saying that only the provided wall charger will quick charge the Honor 8 but , please excuse my ignorance/lack of knowledge here, if the provided charger is 9V/2A/18W , wouldn't a generic charger with those specs quick charge it as well ?
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In Theory, regardings power supplies you're right.
The problem is more advanced: The charger provides 5V, (maybe even limited to 500mA) until the device handshakes successfully with the charger, and tells "hi there, I'm speaking hisilicon fast charging protocol. Oh, you do too? Great. How is the weather over there? Okay, enough smalltalk, please provide me with 9V, up to 3A, i can handle that without going into a puff of smoke".
The charger then reassures every 100ms or so, that the device connected is still the same... and keeps providing 9V
With a QC based charger, it might go "hi there I'm speaking hisilicon fast charging protocol. Oh sorry, i don't understand QC2.0. I can provide you with this legacy charging protocol". And the charger should recognize that it can provide 5V,2A - which will help, but won't be quite as fast as quick charging...
Lets see when Anker or some other company bring out a dual-lingual charger...
You should go with huawei's charger.
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In Theory, regardings power supplies you're right.
The problem is more advanced: The charger provides 5V, (maybe even limited to 500mA) until the device handshakes successfully with the charger, and tells "hi there, I'm speaking hisilicon fast charging protocol. Oh, you do too? Great. How is the weather over there? Okay, enough smalltalk, please provide me with 9V, up to 3A, i can handle that without going into a puff of smoke".
The charger then reassures every 100ms or so, that the device connected is still the same... and keeps providing 9V
With a QC based charger, it might go "hi there I'm speaking hisilicon fast charging protocol. Oh sorry, i don't understand QC2.0. I can provide you with this legacy charging protocol". And the charger should recognize that it can provide 5V,2A - which will help, but won't be quite as fast as quick charging...
Lets see when Anker or some other company bring out a dual-lingual charger...
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well, that explains all
Mostar088 said:
Only Huawei quick charger works, its the same charger on Mate 8 and P9 Plus.
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Do they work with honor 8?!
PalakMi said:
Do they work with honor 8?!
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Yes
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Yes
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are those chargers having the same power rating as stock honor 8 charger????
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are those chargers having the same power rating as stock honor 8 charger????
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Mine i bought did have.
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Mine i bought did have.
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well, then it should work fine
DThought said:
In Theory, regardings power supplies you're right.
The problem is more advanced: The charger provides 5V, (maybe even limited to 500mA) until the device handshakes successfully with the charger, and tells "hi there, I'm speaking hisilicon fast charging protocol. Oh, you do too? Great. How is the weather over there? Okay, enough smalltalk, please provide me with 9V, up to 3A, i can handle that without going into a puff of smoke".
The charger then reassures every 100ms or so, that the device connected is still the same... and keeps providing 9V
With a QC based charger, it might go "hi there I'm speaking hisilicon fast charging protocol. Oh sorry, i don't understand QC2.0. I can provide you with this legacy charging protocol". And the charger should recognize that it can provide 5V,2A - which will help, but won't be quite as fast as quick charging...
Lets see when Anker or some other company bring out a dual-lingual charger...
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Good explanation
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Yes
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Thats great
Thank you for your question regarding the Honor 8 and it's capabilities with quick charging. Your phone comes with a 9 V 2 A high voltage quick charger. It also supports 5 V 2 A chargers. Make sure you buy an official Huawei 9 V 2 A charger; unofficial quick chargers will not work properly. If you need a quick charger, you can buy one from Huawei Vmall or official Huawei experience shops. NOTE: The FRD-L02 shipped to the Indian market comes with a 5 V 2 A charger. (NS)
HonorUSA_Noah said:
Thank you for your question regarding the Honor 8 and it's capabilities with quick charging. Your phone comes with a 9 V 2 A high voltage quick charger. It also supports 5 V 2 A chargers. Make sure you buy an official Huawei 9 V 2 A charger; unofficial quick chargers will not work properly. If you need a quick charger, you can buy one from Huawei Vmall or official Huawei experience shops. NOTE: The FRD-L02 shipped to the Indian market comes with a 5 V 2 A charger. (NS)
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Will the 9v charger made available for indian market?
vsriram92 said:
Will the 9v charger made available for indian market?
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hope they does so
venom007 said:
hope they does so
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It will be great if they do so.
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It will be great if they do so.
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they should, considering the fact that other quick chargers wont work(qualcom certified)
95% they'll make it available
Nope, you have to use the charger that comes along with the Honor 8 in order to quick charge your Honor 8.
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Nope, you have to use the charger that comes along with the Honor 8 in order to quick charge your Honor 8.
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yeah, it dosent support other quick charger, especially the one certified by qualcom quickcharge
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/7luq2l/fast_charging_is_coming_on_mi_a1_with_oreo_update/
Don't mistake that for Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0. That just means it is charging at 5v/2A. The phone already does that when paired with a good charger and cable.
goofball2k said:
Don't mistake that for Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0. That just means it is charging at 5v/2A. The phone already does that when paired with a good charger and cable.
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check this out: https://telecomtalk.info/mi-a1-android-8-0-oreo-beta-hands-on/171866/amp/
santr33 said:
check this out: https://telecomtalk.info/mi-a1-android-8-0-oreo-beta-hands-on/171866/amp/
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Let's do some calculations
3000mAh battery
2000mA charger
That gives about 1.5hrs or so to charge. If we factor in 20% additional time, just because it slows down the charge rate at about 90% or so, then we come in around 1.8hrs. That's not that far off from what the user noticed, and if the phone is off the whole time during charging, then there is no additional battery use from radio/wifi/apps.
Not to say that they didn't implement some other thing with Oreo but definitely it is not QC 3.0 charging.
its still same.... no change at all
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