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Is there a fresh news about Raptorz WM5.0 saga?
I think for this time this mythical ROM can be transfered by speed 1byte/hour. So...
(found in internet space)
Oooh, fellas.
I have a WM5.0 on my Magician (friend of my friend brother, that working in HTC flash it), but i live in a small village. There is no internet, so i can't upload it. There is no post office like a DHL/FedEx/UPS... And i want to tell you more - there is no electricity and cellular providers... But i REALY HAVE IT!
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For god's sake, get over it. If it comes, great. If not, tough. What was the point to your post? Why would you bother writing this when the main thread was locked and there's another one still going?
MODS!! DELETE ME!!!! PLEASE!! (I mean this topic, not me totally!)
I just want to know - is there news.
It has been bad joke or a new hope? It's all.
I'm WAITING for WM5.0 ROM like you.
Great quote.
For all of the stfu ppl, this is a forum, remember?!
Let people talk!
If AlexXF thought it would be a relevant question to him to ask for the rom, he can ask it. If you don't like the topic, don't reply to it.
It would die if you don't.
I think one can ask whatever question he likes as long as he/she does not offend anyone else on this board.
And after 2 weeks, if asked politely, I don't see anything wrong in asking for an update. People ask so many stupid questions on other stuff, what's the surprise if someone asks for progress on such a HUGE thing?
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
Should I just ask the mods to delete your threads if they are of no use or interest to me then? Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
Hope is dying but then, hope of course, is nothing to do with whether Raptor has the ROM or not. But all the same, after arranging a pickup and such like, it appears Buzz has not been getting any further contact from Raptor (see Buzz' website: buzzdev). So either the project is dead in the water (i.e. it never really existed), or Raptor has been unable to get in touch due to whatever reason. It could be one or the other.
unlockMe said:
Everybody on this forum is ASKING for the ROM.
None is OFFERING the Rom.
So, if you don't have anything to OFFER than please stop ASKING.
This will be showing you have at least a bit of respect for the people that are working trying to do something to satisfy YOUR laziness not to provide this ROM to the community.
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SOMEONE OFFERED THE ROM AND PEOPLE ARE JUST ASKING IF THIS OFFER CAN STILL BE HONOURED.
TALKING ABOUT LAZINESS, IF I WAS LAZY I WOULDN'T BE POSTING LENGHTY POSTS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS PROBLEMS THAT I THINK I COULD HELP THEM WITH.
AND WHENEVER I DO SOMETHING FOR MYSELF (EG ANIMATED CONTACT PICS, THEMES, ETC.) I'M THE FIRST ONE TO COME AND POST THEM HERE. SO IF YOU WERE REFERRING TO ME WHEN YOU USED THE WORD LAZY, KINDLY APOLOGISE.
AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO JUST VISIT THE FORUM TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET SOMETHING BUT NEVER GIVE ANYTHING ... GO FIND YOURSELVES A WINDOWS MOBILE DOWNGRADE AND LEAVE US ALONE!!!!
(Aplogies to everyone else who had to read my crap but comments like this infuriate me!)
I'm a bit more calm now ...
@unlockme, aren't you the same guy who called Gora (the guy who gave Himlaya users the WM5 ROM) a lamer?
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Minotavrs you're right, this is just bull****.
If you lookup the first screenshot, it reports 24.38MB of memory, hence obviously a smartphone.
Then, this guy shows picture of an himalaya device (by the way the picture on the wooden desktop is taken from a web site that has a review on XDA II). On these picture, it reports 128MB (normal size for a XDA II).
on my XDA II when I go the Settings / System / About it reports 125.86MB.
Don't loose your time giving credit to this lamer.
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If you owned a Himalya, I bet you made good use of the ROM!
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
after wasting long time to wait for it... i will not Download it or Flash my Magician even if it out after my post coz there will come soon alot of cool Phones with WM2005 and more better than Magician.... so guys save your time and go sell your Magicians to get newer one... NOT BUGGY one like XDA II WM2005
this is the life don't loose it
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CHILL!
cool thread 8) at least now theres a dedicated thread for complains rather than filling up the previous ones which keeps the updates as well 8) i hate it when i see the thread abt news i'm eager at sets itself to "update" and find out the update is nothing but complain, seriously
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Hello all!
I’ve been reading all posts regarding this “famous” WM5 Magician ROM and has so, I’ve decided to post a small (made up) story about this situation. I hope you like it
The High Skilled liar
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Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
I’ve noticed that you’re looking for someone high skilled with a PhD, for a position has a Technical Director / CTO on your company. Has so, i’ve taken the liberty of sending you my resumé which i think, fulfils your requirements.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your excellent resumé. We are very interested on meeting you and as so, we would like to have a small meeting on next Wednesday. Please don’t forget to bring along your PhD sealed certification.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately I’ve lost my PhD sealed certification. But i’m free to meet up with you on Wednesday.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I’m afraid that we really need to see your original sealed PhD certification, since this position is of great importance. Since your resumé has exactly what we are looking for, we are willing to wait a few days for you, while you get your new copy of the original PhD diploma from your university ABC.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Unfortunately, my wife got sick and requires 24hs attention during this month. She has injured her spine and I can’t leave her alone for too long. And has so, i don’t have time for getting a new certificate due to that. So if you’re willing to accept my candidacy without the PhD, I might have a few minutes to meet you up.
Best regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
I understand your situation but our company has a strict policy about contracting persons that are proven to be certified. Since your resumé caused a great impression on us, we decided to contact the University ABC that you have pointed, so to figure out a way of solving this situation. Unfortunately we couldn’t get any response about your diploma (no one knew you). We also have obtained the information that you can request it by phone, and that it will be mailed to your home. We will continue to wait for you a few days more.
P.S.: We hope that your wife is feeling better.
Best regards,
A.
Response Letter from a unemployed guy:
Dear Sirs,
Thank you for your caring. I have had another situation…I’ve contacted my university but they can’t find my certificate anywhere. I’m sorry but I can’t send it to you. Besides, my car has broken and it’s hard to go meet you since there’s no easy transportation to your company. Has so, I’m must decline this proposal. Thank you for your time.
Regards,
B.
Response letter from company YXZ
Dear Sir,
Has our last offer, we are willing to meet with you at your university, if you can spare a few minutes ( btw, we hope that your wife is feeling better now) where we will sort out this situation. We just need a proof that you have a PhD, and we will accept you for the CTO position. Please, just name the day and time and we will meet there.
Regards,
A
..Needless to say, that company YXZ never got a response.
Cheers
Keeper: AMAZING!
Ehehehe. Best regards I'm still LOL for the great analogy.
Let's now keep talking about the injured woman now. That's all that matter.
And
we all know originally there is no WM2005 ROM for Magician. so i hate to know that and i hate peoples who are saying they have WM2005 ROM for Magician and run away with no ****ing any news about their activities...
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This is exactly the point why some of us are ****i'n mad.
If I was the one that came here and post "hey, I have wm5" I was commiting myself to give you some news. If I don't want to give news in the first place, I would talk directly to Buzz, as he was the guy that had the skills and the respect from the community. I think this is common sense: if you dont want to reply to questions, why the heck are you opening a topic to lauch doubt and uncertain?! Don't post it. Do something with your software that is productive, instead of talking to us, comunity.
If you really have the rom, the comunity would be better served if you STFU and send the rom to buzz in the first place (without even posting about it).
I'm now waiting here for the next raptor show up, when he will bash us because of our ingratitude, and how painfull this quest is getting to him.
If ur imagination is true, so, u will never see Raptor again, and most probably, he is surfing our forum now under a new name and reads ur posts with great fun and laughing. Now, we need Colombo (the detective) to follow the new members that joined the forum since the disappearence of raptorz and investigates all their posts, way of wriring and IPs and comparing it with that of raptors to discover his new name and give him a great kik outside the forum.
Anyway, thank u raports, u gave us some fun and brain storming and opend our imaginations.
N.B. Another senario that if were right i will feel too shame, is that raptor is now resting in a bed in a hospital somewhere in london under a salping to support his spine and cannot move by any way to write to us.
kta said:
And jimmy-bish, couldn't you just ignore such threads if they don't interest you? I found AlexF's post more interesting than yours!
... Visit other forums and you'll find these type of discussions on daily basis? Does this have that, will we have this upgrade, etc? There's no "police" shutting their mouths up.
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Funny, I've visited and am a member of many other forums and in each of them, the members seem to be smart enough to wait patiently for an answer. Have a read through the thread, if there's no news, move on. I am also a moderator of one of the forums, and I haven't had to delete a single post about this subject as there aren't as many clowns who keep asking.
AND... one of your so called "police" happens to be Buzz, who locked the first WM5 thread as he got sick of the flaming! Fine job that did as all the clowns just created new threads. Doesn't that tell you something?
Yeah.
We are the ones to blame, the bad guys.
The person who came here and say "hey, I have wm5 on my magician" but never give us back answers or the actual rom and was always giving us different excuses (hey, people that have kids have time for them, and people with serious injury would not take the effort to came to the internet to not give us nothing) and responding on another forums (this one blows the "maybe raptor is in hopsital and don't have internet there stuff) and refused to upload via ftp because he already has a meet with raptor messenger (he didn't give the address, so what meet was it?!) is the person that deserve respect, care, and the title of the good guy.
You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics. Let the bashers bash. It is only ONE topic. People are not taking a lot of space on xda-dev database.
Remember: you cannot control other people from posting, but you can control you so yourself can abstain from reading this post.
Why don't you do a "how's raptor health" topic? I think that would interest most of the users on the forum, so... this topic would die because of no replies.
People are constantly bashing things: broken firmwares, no support, HTC! Why can't we bash, or doubt, or whatever we want, if we discuss with correctness and without violence?
Funny thing is: people still think we don't see a wm5 rom because of the raptors injury. Maybe he is dead... He couldn't even upload a 25mb file, but he still keeped saying he was taking a huge effort to get us the file. Why didn't he upload just the first bytes of the rom?! With ftp, if he tried, at least buzz would get that info (well, if their crappy bt connection could send 416bytes on one connection... but maybe it would hang). Think this: will you still use gsm when this magic rom travel from raptor pocket to buzz? Guess not.
PS: remember that the censored guy told raptor the rom was an update to jam users, from club-imate? were on club-imate do you see the rom?
-> I keep waiting for raptor to came here and bash us ranters. he will say: "i'm sorry for being injured and for have a 3mth old kid, and you are all ungratefull". been there, saw that.
well, i think we are watching a DRAMA Movie which its title is:
"Pathetic Raptor's life and WM2005"
if i can get this WM2005 ROM i will not post any **** until i make sure that i can put my hands on it
to Raptor's People "Don't post any **** before you clean it" :x
Best regards for guys who are still waiting... :wink:
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You already knew what was this topic about. It's title is a forbidden question. If you people were smart, you should notice it is not a pleasent topic to you guys. Why the heck you keep reading a thing you don't want too? Move along, read the other topics.
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Oh how boring would that be, just looking up information for my Jam, seeking help, giving help in return... blah blah blah.....
Simple fact, I love these flame wars. I really don't have an opinion either way on the whole Raptorz thing, but I'm having a really good chuckle while stirring people up! I suppose it's an Australian thing.. we all enjoy taking the piss! :lol:
And there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate... I'll let you get up on your high horse, and then I'll shoot it! :lol: :lol:
Keeper, amazing! LOL! Copied to my LJ. Thanks for a good joke.
NightmarE, you so right!
I think, there is a another way to upgrade - sell Magician and buy Atom or another new phone with WM5.0 and WiFi. It will be better.
For me personal, i'll be waiting for WM5.0 before Christmass, than just upgrade the phone
I have wanted to adress a issue that has increased noticeably since I joined XDA-Dev, im not sure if anyone agree with me at all on this
But more and more of the developers here demands "donations" for their work, and that really sadden me. Because more and more ppl will feel that "hey, this guy and that guy actually makes money on their work, why cant I?" and in the end, this forums users will have to "donate" to everyone, and it will slowly suffocate from greed...
I know many use hours after hours, doing really amazing work creating,fixing modding and w/e. And I fully accept that ppl have a donation button in their signature, and that ppl can donate money as mutch as they want.
But when developers write that if you donate, I will continue my work, or if you donate I will provide you with support, or you can download my work if you pay for it, then xda has decreased to a point where I cant support it.
I joined here because I needed help, and I got it, for free. And I decided I want to contribute too, so I started learning, for free, what I now know. And I try my best to help out.
I have had many ppl telling me that they want to donate money for the work I have done making roms, etc (in herald section)
But I dont want any.
And I will make this promise: Im never gonna have a sig with donations, and I will never accept any form of donations for the work I do here. But I will respect that others have a "donation sig", but I will not accept and use stuff developed here that has a "you must donate me"
What make/made this forum great, is that so many have shared for free, amazing work.
Im not sure what the creators of this forums feel about this, or the current admins/moderators feels about this. But if you guys somewhat agree with me, please do something about it.
Im just a user, with my thoughts and views on things, and I dont know if anyone see it the same way as I do, or if this is actually a issue that should be adressed at all.
But maybe its just me and my thoughts that are wrong
cheers
itje said:
I have wanted to adress a issue that has increased noticeably since I joined XDA-Dev, im not sure if anyone agree with me at all on this
But more and more of the developers here demands "donations" for their work, and that really sadden me. Because more and more ppl will feel that "hey, this guy and that guy actually makes money on their work, why cant I?" and in the end, this forums users will have to "donate" to everyone, and it will slowly suffocate from greed...
I know many use hours after hours, doing really amazing work creating,fixing modding and w/e. And I fully accept that ppl have a donation button in their signature, and that ppl can donate money as mutch as they want.
But when developers write that if you donate, I will continue my work, or if you donate I will provide you with support, or you can download my work if you pay for it, then xda has decreased to a point where I cant support it.
I joined here because I needed help, and I got it, for free. And I decided I want to contribute too, so I started learning, for free, what I now know. And I try my best to help out.
I have had many ppl telling me that they want to donate money for the work I have done making roms, etc (in herald section)
But I dont want any.
And I will make this promise: Im never gonna have a sig with donations, and I will never accept any form of donations for the work I do here. But I will respect that others have a "donation sig", but I will not accept and use stuff developed here that has a "you must donate me"
What make/made this forum great, is that so many have shared for free, amazing work.
Im not sure what the creators of this forums feel about this, or the current admins/moderators feels about this. But if you guys somewhat agree with me, please do something about it.
Im just a user, with my thoughts and views on things, and I dont know if anyone see it the same way as I do, or if this is actually a issue that should be adressed at all.
But maybe its just me and my thoughts that are wrong
cheers
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where does anyone demand donations? devs ask yes, this is true in any dev community, if they say you MUST donate then that is wrong and against forum policy, so show me some examples
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where does anyone demand donations? devs ask yes, this is true in any dev community, if they say you MUST donate then that is wrong and against forum policy, so show me some examples
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Allright. I was hoping that I didnt have to, because I dont wanna make anyone a "example" and I dont want to start a flamewar or a fight on who does it or not.
I think I need to say that the "demand" is often not written as a demand, but its usually adressed with please support me, and I will....insert "service provided" here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
Im NOT saying the poster of that thread is "guilty" of anything, and im sure that explanations could be provided and so on, but im adressing something that is increasing, atleast from my point of view. And Im gonna be the first to back down on what I "shed a little light on" if im mistaken in my interpetations.
But I do read alot around on the forum, and I just feel that more and more ppl wants donations for the work they do.
I will quote some general sigs, without saying who have them,and its not copied from anyones sig, but its a general "quote" of many diffrent sigs.
"if you like my work, and want more, donate"
"If you like what I do, buy me a beer"
"support my hard work by donating"
"Accepting any amount in donations"
"Incourage me to continue my work, buy me a beer"
list can go on with diffrent versons.
Im not against a donation system, but I really dont like it when you must donate to download anything, in my interpetation, that is as you say, against xda policy.
Is not developing for free, and so that we all can get more out of our devices encourage enough? If we want to make money on our work, why not start a company and start doing buisness on our own websites, and not use xda-dev to promote work we want to make money on?
sorry if I offend anyone, thats not my intention at all, and as I said, the post i linked to might be a bad example too. And I respect the hard work they do, and actually understand that they wants donations and all. Im really impressed by the work both the owner of the thread I use as example, and others. And that they deserve payment for what they do or not, is not the issue im forwarding here, so please have that in mind when commenting what I try to adress here.
Qui posto il link
Solo RADIO
ROM e RADIO
i'dont have the kaiser. sorry
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Why are you releasing my ROM in a different file with "TEST" at the end? This pretends that it's an official HTC release or something.
You even copied the extra space that I mistakenly put in my Thread in my protocol version (25.81 .40.02H) instead of (25.81.40.02H). And, my updates and startup logo are in the ROM.
This I do not like very much...
AllTheWay and myself have had the radios on our 4shared sites since they came out. Sounds like he might have got it from the place we don't speak of.
thats one of the problems with Xda these days anything you put up is subject to people stealing and calling there own. Start taking out some rgu files so people can't recook what you make. I have stopped posting my roms here period its a nother sad day around here...
Thi has to be a joke. I cant imagine whats in the head of these guys who steals stuff, repost it and claim its their stuff. Thats insane.
I wonder if he didn't just get it from PPCW and post it here. Maybe he is not claiming it as his is what I am saying. Maybe thought he was just providing a service to everyone here by posting. HELL, I don't know, maybe he is reposting as his. Who knows.
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I wonder if he didn't just get it from PPCW and post it here. Maybe he is not claiming it as his is what I am saying. Maybe thought he was just providing a service to everyone here by posting. HELL, I don't know, maybe he is reposting as his. Who knows.
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Maybe yes, but it has the same name as NoThrills rom.
I accidentally found these links
I have posted them here even if I do not have interest because I have the trinity.
What is the problem?
Copyright?
I have made here for the good of the community.
Thank you for your kindness.
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I accidentally found these links
I have posted them here even if I do not have interest because I have the trinity.
What is the problem?
Copyright?
I have made here for the good of the community.
Thank you for your kindness.
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I just found it odd that someone would try this just after NoThrills released it. This proves to me he/she had good intentions. No harm no foul in my book.
confortable costumer said:
I accidentally found these links
I have posted them here even if I do not have interest because I have the trinity.
What is the problem?
Copyright?
I have made here for the good of the community.
Thank you for your kindness.
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If you're not to blame, you're not to blame. Could you tell me where you got this links though?
The main problem I have right now is that there have been over 1500+ downloads of my ROM, over 30,000 thread views, people are very pleased with it (generally speaking), and I have only seen 7 donations so far.
Out of which, 5 people are Germans! And then people still say that Germans aren't kind Furthermore there is one English person and one Greek person who have donated.
Seriously though, the donations are not important. However, it does bother me when I see my ROM, which I intentionally left 'open' for other cooks to look at, used as basis for other ROMs, or distributed on Hong Kong BBS's, Dutch usenet groups, Arabian websites, and those people are not sent here for information/help/thankyou's/donations, so I know that more people are enjoying it.
I don't mind people using this ROM as a base ROM. I left this ROM 'open' for a reason. I'm not here to make money. Just give credit where credit is due, that's all.
I don't want to cripple my ROMs so you can't easily re-cook them anymore, but I see it might be a neccesity.
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I just found it odd that someone would try this just after NoThrills released it. This proves to me he/she had good intentions. No harm no foul in my book.
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i absolutely agree. he didnt make a big bragging post about it. it seemed that he really put it here, just in case it would be of use to us. as he said, "i dont have a kaiser" at the bottom of his post. he seemed sincere about the fact he was just trying to help. dont kill the guy
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If you're not to blame, you're not to blame. Could you tell me where you got this links though?
The main problem I have right now is that there have been over 1500+ downloads of my ROM, over 30,000 thread views, people are very pleased with it (generally speaking), and I have only seen 7 donations so far.
Out of which, 5 people are Germans! And then people still say that Germans aren't kind Furthermore there is one English person and one Greek person who have donated.
Seriously though, the donations are not important. However, it does bother me when I see my ROM, which I intentionally left 'open' for other cooks to look at, used as basis for other ROMs, or distributed on Hong Kong BBS's, Dutch usenet groups, Arabian websites, and those people are not sent here for information/help/thankyou's/donations, so I know that more people are enjoying it.
I don't mind people using this ROM as a base ROM. I left this ROM 'open' for a reason. I'm not here to make money. Just give credit where credit is due, that's all.
I don't want to cripple my ROMs so you can't easily re-cook them anymore, but I see it might be a neccesity.
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It is on the PPCW site.
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Nicely put kwill. ****, he probably didn't even know who cooked it so that he might give them credit. No-one has been harmed that I can see.
@NoThrills
Most are lurkers and not helpers/givers. Did you really expect to recieve a slew of donations? Most around here take take take and never give.
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Now that is crap in my book. The man just copied the links over from PPCW, hell yes I looked to verify it so sue me, and he gets abused for trying to help out. This forum has turned to ****.
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Thanks for removing the links, I don't blame you at all
so lets jump all over the guy/girl for trying to give back. what a crock of ****.
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see my post above. it is verified. this is **** in my book.
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@NoThrills
Most are lurkers and not helpers/givers. Did you really expect to recieve a slew of donations? Most around here take take take and never give.
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No, like I said, the donations are not important. A thank-you post is enough, but with all these 'custom' releases, people are not being redirected to XDA-Developers.
There's a reason I put a password on the file and only put the password on this board
But I do find it puzzling to see that over 900 WWE downloads, only 2 people donated, and for a 'lousy' 200 GER downloads, 5 people donated. Germans are cool in my book
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Now that is crap in my book. The man just copied the links over from PPCW, hell yes I looked to verify it so sue me, and he gets abused for trying to help out. This forum has turned to ****.
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I already sent the guy a PM telling him thanks for removing the links, and making clear I don't blame him at all. Just like I posted here.
NoThrills said:
No, like I said, the donations are not important. A thank-you post is enough, but with all these 'custom' releases, people are not being redirected to XDA-Developers.
There's a reason I put a password on the file and only put the password on this board
But I do find it puzzling to see that over 900 WWE downloads, only 2 people donated, and for a 'lousy' 200 GER downloads, 5 people donated. Germans are cool in my book
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I understand but the links he provided were from PPCW which is where over half of the stock roms come from around here. How the hell was he supposed to know who cooked it, if the link actually pointed to a cooked rom and not a stock rom, and everyone jumped all over him and all he was doing was trying to give back.
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please dont think i am jumping on you NoThrills. My rant has not been pointed at you at all. I just cant believe we demonized the guy and he was trying to give back.
P1Tater said:
I understand but the links he provided were from PPCW which is where over half of the stock roms come from around here. How the hell was he supposed to know who cooked it, if the link actually pointed to a cooked rom and not a stock rom, and everyone jumped all over him and all he was doing was trying to give back.
EDit:
please dont think i am jumping on you NoThrills. My rant has not been pointed at you at all. I just cant believe we demonized the guy and he was trying to give back.
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Let's call it the nature of the beast. There has been a lot of BS going on in this forum now a days, and some of us are reactionary because of this. That's why we're all human guys we make mistakes now and then, I'm sure the OP understands this, we're all just trying to protect an original piece of work and give credit where credit is due. Sh*t Happens.
Ok, I'm confused.
NoThrills releases the same rom on PPCW with the radio and all named the same. Then, someone comes along, trying to be nice and give back and we jump them. Then NoThrills gets upset because no credit has been given and the donations don't add up like he/she wants. If the credit or the donations is what NoThrills was after then why not post on XDA only instead of posting to XDA and PPCW? Makes no sense to me. Please someone clarify for me.
austinsnyc said:
thats one of the problems with Xda these days anything you put up is subject to people stealing and calling there own. Start taking out some rgu files so people can't recook what you make. I have stopped posting my roms here period its a nother sad day around here...
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Say it isn't so!!!
So we should not expect any more masterful ROM's by you!
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Ok, I'm confused.
NoThrills releases the same rom on PPCW with the radio and all named the same. Then, someone comes along, trying to be nice and give back and we jump them. Then NoThrills gets upset because no credit has been given and the donations don't add up like he/she wants. If the credit or the donations is what NoThrills was after then why not post on XDA only instead of posting to XDA and PPCW? Makes no sense to me. Please someone clarify for me.
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Excuse me? I never have even *been* to PPCW! Why on earth would I post my ROM there? I love discovering stuff that sparks my interest. That is why I have visited XDA-Developers for years now. NoThrills is my alter ego because I need a disguise if I release these ROMs. I do *not* condone any way of piracy, hell, I have licenses for every single piece of software on my computer, mediacenter, laptop, etc.
I do not care for the donations. It's fun to get, true, but I am also very amazed at the size of some donations. $1/€1 is plenty, while some people (yes, I'm looking at you Germans and Greeks) are sending me amounts of €20,- or more. I did not expect that.
But back to the issue, because there is too much focus on the donations, which are not important here!
The point that got me 'upset' is that people are distributing these files everywhere, modified and all.
Why do you think the password is "i got this file from xda-developers.com" ?
Why do you think my compressed .exe says "Go to xda-developers.com for the password"?
Because I want people to come to this community. I want people to contribute to this community. I want people's minds sparked just like this forum has sparked mine. Don't you think that if it was all about the donations, I wouldn't have 'protected' my ROM for cooking?
i know this is not the place for this, i dont even know why am i doing this, but i felt the need to say it: as imperfect as it is, with all our noobs, experienced users, rom cooking just for the fun of it, donations (hell, smb was willing to donate even a whole kaiser!!), advices for free, fun all around, helpful persons willing to help just because we share a common passion...
... all these mean so much to me and in my eyes they are a lot more beautiful than the world we see everyday.
dont know exactly why i had to say this, but please go on and keep it as such. also, thanks to all of you for putting your little brick at the foundation of a beautiful building!
as smb was saying in another post, love is in the air... maybe its the spring...
Although it's a bit twee, I have to agree.
The concept of developers & users sharing ideas and code and actually HELPING each other in return for donations to the level you can afford is a fantastic concept - and one that Microsoft would do well to learn from (amongst others).
The end result is everyone is MUCH happier and the product is much better. The only problem is I suspect nobody on here could make a living from it...
I'm feeling all teary eyed now. But you guys & gals are right. Group hug.
Let's all sing together now.
Koom By Ya...... why am I the only one singing?
Sorry....
I was too busy reaching for the kleenex box
hehe... bunch of nerds... really!!... get all hot and flustered at the idea of a new rom or some cab file... it's so sweet...
isn't there a restaurant in London with no prices on the menu but where patrons pay what they believe the meal is worth? Remember hearing about it years ago. Wonder if they still in business.
Yeah there are some talented cooks/programmers on this site. It's a wonderful site for owners of pda's looking for a little doctoring of their phones and I wish xda-developers.com all the best in the future...
Because...
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i know this is not the place for this, i dont even know why am i doing this...
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...you fell down and cracked your head ?
Just kidding mate
I cracked my screen last night.... was thinking of having a service for my phone.... bagpipes and everything... let me know if you guys will be coming.
What the hell's the matter with you blundering boobs & sniveling sissies?
This belongs in the Development Forum why?
And you Tater, kumbaya????
Oh...
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What the hell's the matter with you blundering boobs & sniveling sissies?
This belongs in the Development Forum why?
And you Tater, kumbaya????
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...you just hurt my feelings...
I agree
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love is in the air... maybe its the spring...
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I am totaly Agree, specialy If you post something, if it is already posted, there is alot of love around...Yeah its the spring
i must say its very touching what u wrote and very true. even though i am new to xda being here has truly been a wonderful experience.
The amount of knowledge is truly monumental.
now on singing kombaya i need some body to give me a beat ...
its not even about money or anything, its about people. just hearing that laurentius spent one whole day (9am - 12pm) to tweak a new rom for us, for you, for anybody, made me think that passion is everything, or anyway a lot more than what people are forced to do for a living.
ive been reading this forum for over 2 years now and remember a lot of things, funny posts, things that, together with the great pieces of software developed, made my day now and then. thank ya all for this!
as you say, this is a silly thread and should under no circumstances stay especially here under the rom development section. kyphur, related to a discussion from laurentius new diamond rom thread, feel free to delete all these.
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i must say its very touching what u wrote and very true. even though i am new to xda being here has truly been a wonderful experience.
The amount of knowledge is truly monumental.
now on singing kombaya i need some body to give me a beat ...
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as most of you probably, i am user on different forums as well. although some amount of flaming is present here as well, it is under no circumstances comparable to things happening on other sites and im grateful to all of you for this.
maybe we should have the national hymn of xdadev, for example Kombaya, somewhere to be downloaded or at least to be visible.
Me too!
Just wanted to add my agreement and appreciation for all that is offered from xda and the people that make it all work. A heart felt "Thank you very much!"
Delete this thread? NEVER...
I'll just move it to someplace more appropriate (but I did leave a perm redirect so it's always hooked to Kaiser Rom Dev)...
True, true... To be honest the only reason I keep buying HTC devices is xda-developers community Although HTC with their support and behavior is trying really hard to persuade me from these decisions on buying new HTC hardware )
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True, true... To be honest the only reason I keep buying HTC devices is xda-developers community Although HTC with their support and behavior is trying really hard to persuade me from these decisions on buying new HTC hardware )
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Agreed, if I were head of marketing for HTC I would pay Dutty (amongst others) to continue cooking roms for our devices.
OMG, sensitive nerds! *turns around and sneaks away*
Just to also add few thoughts on this forum.
This year I bought my first ever PDA, and had to go to considerable trouble to have it delivered here. In a country where the concept of customer support is not yet in existence, and with thousand noob questions, this forum has provided all the help that I needed. So, this forum means a lot to people like me who have no access to official customer support services or other facilities available elsewhere.
My only regret is that as yet, I am unable to more actively contribute to the great community here.
Thanks XDA developers and keep it up.
I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When I came to xda-devs, the iphone didn't exist. Android didn't exist. WebOS didn't exist. If you wanted a "smart phone" your choices were PalmOS, Pocket PC, and a few Symbian based offerings. It's quite possible that the expense and, for lack of a better word, elitism that went with these smart phones meant that "commoners" weren't using them. Especially, they weren't modding them.
In those days, devs were respected. There certainly wasn't this big entitlement feeling that every tom, ****, and harry feel they are owed today. This site was started and grew based on people wanting to develop for these phones. We wanted them to do more. For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good. The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.
It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.
I'm thankful to all of the Android devs for their work in rooting so many phones. Thank you HTC for making a phone that works so well, I'm not completely sure I need or want to root it. Thank you XDA for providing a location where we can COLLABORATE.
To all of you kids (either by age or maturity) look up the definition of collaborate, patience, and "common decency"). Please stop being rude, and or demanding... anything. We don't need 30 extra posts to tell us "I'm Not Happy about X" or "User Y is a dork". It's useless. Put it on your myspace page, people may care there.
And to the elitists, don't knock people for thinking of an idea that someone else already tried. At least they are thinking. At least they are trying. And hopefully, they'll learn and take on the next challenge in your stead.
XC
Here-here!
Appreciation > Ego
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
I feel you pain, this place used to be a comminty of people all over the world, that were here to help. And we all shared one commen goal, to make our phones the best they could be. It really does sadden me to see what has happend. No body is owed anthing. and for some reson everyone feels like they are.
You used to be able to asked a question without getting flamed to death, people and devs would help you with any problem you had, and now..... its just ridiculous the way people are acting. Its not just here, its on all the android forums that i have seen. so dont think that its just here.
To everyone that has helped make this site the best, thank you. And to the rest of you, please leave go somwere else, your kind is not welcome here.
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This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
heavensblade23 said:
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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+1
It happens on all forums, you will have fighting and issues and assholes appearing. Just got to deal with it, thats what moderators are for.
heavensblade23 said:
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.
anubis_dragoon said:
Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
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What happened? Someone reported something that was untrue? Or a bunch of people got excited about a sketchy report of root/a mod. That has happened a bunch on XDA. Stick around and it'll happen a bunch more. People make mistakes, hello! We had several overclocking threads that were false starts in G1/Dream. Guess what? People kept trying and eventually, it got done. The people who were *****ing, however, just produced more *****ing--and my my phone does not install non-market *****ing
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.
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I'm not saying it's okay to act like a ****, I'm saying it's largely a lost cause. I got sick of people acting like dicks on another, general-purpose, forum, so I left to try to find some place where people were civil. I gave up when I saw someone on an Android banned for rageposting over cell phone batteries.
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Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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It's here because everyone, in every area, needs to read it and take it to heart.
steb0ne said:
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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Simply because this is where XDA lost face in the eyes of many yesterday. Its not just the sites fault though. Members had a lot to do with it. I'm sure because yesterday was a holiday is the reason it took some time for the Mods to get a handle on things.
I give thanks to the OP for posting here.
Thank you XDA!!!
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Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
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I think it is very important to understand where xda came from. This site began with people that not only helped us mod our phones, but were willing to teach us to mod our phones. That way, when the next phone came out, you had more people working to mod the phone.
I put this in a developer thread because development is a large driving force behind xda.
XC
People need to learn to just report a thread instead of fighting over what's posted in it. Mods will help sort things out I'm sure. We all need to just work together on making this site better and learn from the mistakes of others. The Incredible's development will get better in time its a fairly new device if you think about it. IMO its very nice stock. Keep up the great work Devs and for those who don't dev do your part in making this site a place for ppl to want to come to share and learn.
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I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When ...
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Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.
I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.
I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....
Thanks.
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Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.
It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
Ruoh said:
Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online, and get away with it. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.
It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
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Generation T, as in toilet trained below the waist only. Their mouths seem to run constantly, and not even their spell checkers have been opened . . .
It's easy to bash wee tykes. Been happening since antiquity. Hard to root an Incredible, tho. We just need somebody to get a reman unit that still has a testing bootloader installed!
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....For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good.
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Exactly right... And I'm one of those who kept my mouth shut as I read and learned here, respecting those who put forth the info that helped me...
xcsdm said:
....The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.
It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.
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I can say the same about Hofo (on which I go by a different name..)
I started there, reading, absorbing, learning.. To pay it back, I started helping others when/where I could. I eventually started a collection of instructions, and writing up info I digested to make it easier for new people to just dive in and learn to do it themselves. I even met (in person) someone I met on hofo, and we worked to create a set of repeatable processes to flash moto phones with non-VZW firmware.
I saw it go from a great site to learn, to a place you're going to get flamed, called names, disrespected, etc... Thankfully, the birth of my son took me away from my cell phone hacking and Hofo just at the right time.
As I visit this, hofo and other sites, I can't help but think they are all becoming the same... a bunch of people who feel entitled to have this or that NOW and if they don't get it, they gripe up a storm about it, call people names, etc..
Its sad.
Is it really getting that bad? I haven't signed into this site since my old PPC6700 days, so I haven't taken a look at the Entitled Generation posts, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
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Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.
I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.
I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....
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AMEN ! NOOBs need to read and research more rather than demanding everything be handed to them.
I think this thread is a bit dramatic. "What happened to XDA?" Well, nothing really. There's just a huge influx of new people who know just enough to be dangerous and really want root (and look at the average post count, mine is low enough but every other person I see discussing this has less than 20 posts). The Incredible is one of if not THE hot phone on the market, so I'm not surprised it's like a circus in here. Due to recent events that I will not dare mention, It's like the scene in Caddyshack when they let all the caddys swim in the pool and run all the "members" off. And over the weekend someone took a dump in the pool and caused mayhem/panic...
If the mods would get more strict - short temp bans for people who are very rude, and maybe also for people who can't stay on subject or at least delete the off subject posts, and get rid of all the "why is my battery life bad" threads then the Dev section may improve. Perhaps make a rule that says you can't post in this section unless you have a certain number of posts? I don't know. It was just a bad weekend. It will get back to normal.