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i know this is not the place for this, i dont even know why am i doing this, but i felt the need to say it: as imperfect as it is, with all our noobs, experienced users, rom cooking just for the fun of it, donations (hell, smb was willing to donate even a whole kaiser!!), advices for free, fun all around, helpful persons willing to help just because we share a common passion...
... all these mean so much to me and in my eyes they are a lot more beautiful than the world we see everyday.
dont know exactly why i had to say this, but please go on and keep it as such. also, thanks to all of you for putting your little brick at the foundation of a beautiful building!
as smb was saying in another post, love is in the air... maybe its the spring...

Although it's a bit twee, I have to agree.
The concept of developers & users sharing ideas and code and actually HELPING each other in return for donations to the level you can afford is a fantastic concept - and one that Microsoft would do well to learn from (amongst others).
The end result is everyone is MUCH happier and the product is much better. The only problem is I suspect nobody on here could make a living from it...

I'm feeling all teary eyed now. But you guys & gals are right. Group hug.

Let's all sing together now.
Koom By Ya...... why am I the only one singing?

Sorry....
I was too busy reaching for the kleenex box

hehe... bunch of nerds... really!!... get all hot and flustered at the idea of a new rom or some cab file... it's so sweet...
isn't there a restaurant in London with no prices on the menu but where patrons pay what they believe the meal is worth? Remember hearing about it years ago. Wonder if they still in business.
Yeah there are some talented cooks/programmers on this site. It's a wonderful site for owners of pda's looking for a little doctoring of their phones and I wish xda-developers.com all the best in the future...

Because...
ionutz6 said:
i know this is not the place for this, i dont even know why am i doing this...
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...you fell down and cracked your head ?
Just kidding mate

I cracked my screen last night.... was thinking of having a service for my phone.... bagpipes and everything... let me know if you guys will be coming.

What the hell's the matter with you blundering boobs & sniveling sissies?
This belongs in the Development Forum why?
And you Tater, kumbaya????

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GSLEON3 said:
What the hell's the matter with you blundering boobs & sniveling sissies?
This belongs in the Development Forum why?
And you Tater, kumbaya????
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...you just hurt my feelings...

I agree
ionutz6 said:
love is in the air... maybe its the spring...
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I am totaly Agree, specialy If you post something, if it is already posted, there is alot of love around...Yeah its the spring

i must say its very touching what u wrote and very true. even though i am new to xda being here has truly been a wonderful experience.
The amount of knowledge is truly monumental.
now on singing kombaya i need some body to give me a beat ...

its not even about money or anything, its about people. just hearing that laurentius spent one whole day (9am - 12pm) to tweak a new rom for us, for you, for anybody, made me think that passion is everything, or anyway a lot more than what people are forced to do for a living.
ive been reading this forum for over 2 years now and remember a lot of things, funny posts, things that, together with the great pieces of software developed, made my day now and then. thank ya all for this!
as you say, this is a silly thread and should under no circumstances stay especially here under the rom development section. kyphur, related to a discussion from laurentius new diamond rom thread, feel free to delete all these.

thesire said:
i must say its very touching what u wrote and very true. even though i am new to xda being here has truly been a wonderful experience.
The amount of knowledge is truly monumental.
now on singing kombaya i need some body to give me a beat ...
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as most of you probably, i am user on different forums as well. although some amount of flaming is present here as well, it is under no circumstances comparable to things happening on other sites and im grateful to all of you for this.
maybe we should have the national hymn of xdadev, for example Kombaya, somewhere to be downloaded or at least to be visible.

Me too!
Just wanted to add my agreement and appreciation for all that is offered from xda and the people that make it all work. A heart felt "Thank you very much!"

Delete this thread? NEVER...
I'll just move it to someplace more appropriate (but I did leave a perm redirect so it's always hooked to Kaiser Rom Dev)...

True, true... To be honest the only reason I keep buying HTC devices is xda-developers community Although HTC with their support and behavior is trying really hard to persuade me from these decisions on buying new HTC hardware )

harry_x said:
True, true... To be honest the only reason I keep buying HTC devices is xda-developers community Although HTC with their support and behavior is trying really hard to persuade me from these decisions on buying new HTC hardware )
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Agreed, if I were head of marketing for HTC I would pay Dutty (amongst others) to continue cooking roms for our devices.

OMG, sensitive nerds! *turns around and sneaks away*

Just to also add few thoughts on this forum.
This year I bought my first ever PDA, and had to go to considerable trouble to have it delivered here. In a country where the concept of customer support is not yet in existence, and with thousand noob questions, this forum has provided all the help that I needed. So, this forum means a lot to people like me who have no access to official customer support services or other facilities available elsewhere.
My only regret is that as yet, I am unable to more actively contribute to the great community here.
Thanks XDA developers and keep it up.

To Donate or Not to Donate, THAT is the question...

All,
I have just received a question via PM and thought that it may best be answered here in the open forum. Mods, pls move thread if it would best be located in another forum. I have posted the original question and my reply... Any thoughts, extra comments or general discussion would be appreciated... The name of the sender has been removed for their privacy...
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Hey, thanks for the great advice. I want to donate to some of the developers whose ROMS i have used, but i wasn't sure how much to give...i don't want to give too much, but also don't want to offend by giving too little. Also, i am curious at what point do you feel like u should donate...i didn't think just from trying a ROM i should feel obligated to donate, but if i have used it for a month or so or more than yeah, maybe kickin something down is the thing to do.
So, you think better way to get the keyboard problem addressed is post in the thread for the rom you want fixed, as opposed to creating a new thread asking specifically for it. See, i think some devices maybe don't have that problem (it's an ATT PTT thing?), and so some of the chefs and users aren't getting it...i THINK...or else it just surprises me how it doesn't bother more people more...i guesss maybe i actually use my phone to talk on more than some here
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Donations are always a tricky item... I completely understand about the "not enough to much" dilemma... This is how I approach it: You are not purchasing anything, you are donating to a person that shares a common interest as you... To that end, think about a small favor that a friend of yours does for you... What type of thanks would you give that friend...? For my friends, I may buy them a couple beers... I think you see my point... Any donation, is appreciated... I would check on the conversion rate for where the recipient lives, so that they can get a decent donation... I don't think that 5 or 10 of whatever their native currency is, is to much... So, if I wanted to donate approx. 5GBP to someone, it would cost me 10USD... That is enough to buy almost 3 beers in the US, not sure about the UK ratio though... I think you also have a good handle on when you may wish to donate... a month may be a good time to donate to the cook... or however long you take to decide the rom is a keeper...
As for the keyboard fix, the comment should be posted in the thread of the rom where the problem exists... Some roms do not have the problem, it really depends on which base rom the cook used and whether or not they are even aware of the problem to begin with... There are many roms that have the fix already taken care of, and many that do not... It's really a hit or miss, when you find one that you like, you can always ask the cook to repost it with the correct dll cooked in, if you really like the rom, you can always let them know how much you appreciate their work and that a donation may be forthcoming...
Debonairone...

hmm
I'd say 10-15 USD is the right donation value and I feel that one should donate if they find that the ROM is perfect for their needs

If you were to donate, i'd say the minimum would be the cost of a pint of beer in your own currency.
a small way to say thanks online.

Moved to General subforum as this isn't really tied to a specific Rom or device.
FWIW, as someone who has both sent & received donations I think that the average is from $5 - $20 depending on what efforts you are supporting, how much value you feel you got from the efforts and finally how deep your pockets are. I've received a few donations that were much higher and it is always appreciated but nobody is trying to live off donations.
In the end it's really something that changes from user to user, project to project, and even month to month as your financial situation may change.

zocster said:
I'd say 10-15 USD is the right donation value and I feel that one should donate if they find that the ROM is perfect for their needs
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Not just ROMs but all Apps should be considered. There is a whole lot of great creativity in this forum.....

I have to say thnxs to those that shared their thoughts... Hopefully, someone has gained some insight as to how much they should donate, if they feel the urge to do so... I agree, as already stated, that shelling out the amount for a couple beers will always be appreciated, but as mentioned by Kyphur, your financial situation should be the final factor as to how much you want/can donate...

Thanks Debonairone
This was indeed very helpful!

I don't feel like this is said enough...

So thank you devs, each and everyone of you! You guys continue to do selfless work without expecting anything in return even though what you do often deserves a decent price tag on it. So even though I'm not that wealthy and can only make donations every so often (which I don't feel I do enough) and 85% (and that's being generous) of the leeches who come to this site never give back, never appreciate, and never donate. I speak from all of us that at least give you our gratitude and respect if we can't afford more when I say THANK YOU for every new rom, for helping me un-brick my device, for holding my hand through every hiccup, and for kicking me in the ass when I get out of line... and just in general THANK YOU.

DigitalDementia said:
So thank you devs, each and everyone of you! You guys continue to do selfless work without expecting anything in return even though what you do often deserves a decent price tag on it. So even though I'm not that wealthy and can only make donations every so often (which I don't feel I do enough) and 85% (and that's being generous) of the leeches who come to this site never give back, never appreciate, and never donate. I speak from all of us that at least give you our gratitude and respect if we can't afford more when I say THANK YOU for every new rom, for helping me un-brick my device, for holding my hand through every hiccup, and for kicking me in the ass when I get out of line... and just in general THANK YOU.
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AGREED!!!!!

I agree as well!!! Android would not be what it is, and certainly not as fun as it is, without you!!!

Nothing like sucking up...to who i dont have any idea....they know they are appreciated and not in this for a profit nor personal gain.

Well, I see the token troll has made his appearance!
If you cannot contribute positively then move on... does it really help to post nonsense?!
I agree with the OP!! Thank you to all developers. I truly appreciate your work... some people are ungrateful and take the work you do for granted.
I honestly feel that Android would not be where it was today without the phenomenal development work!

magneticzero said:
Nothing like sucking up...to who i dont have any idea....they know they are appreciated and not in this for a profit nor personal gain.
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To be honest most people who come in here just come for what they want and leave, that isn't appreciation, neither is that same person coming in and creating a thread about how little they do. The amount of appreciation is far outweighed by the amount of un-appreciation.
Not to mention just because devs know they're appreciated doesn't mean we can't say thanks, how hard is that?

Nicely said OP. I am such a n00b (first smartphone), and the willingness of those here to help people like me is greatly appreciated.

donations ?????????

why are some developers on xda so content on gettting donations :S yes if ur a recognized dev and you have given soooooooo much already yes i would donate. but alll these people saying donate donate donate when they havnt even got a rom yet are bassicly begging in a sense.
then there's the people that promise the best rom in the world but ask u to donate so they can the rom going i think thats wrong.
ONLY ASK FOR DONATIONS IF U HAVE A ONGOING PROJEXT ( WITH A ROM ) DONT LIMIT YOUR WORK TO JUST A FEW BETA TESTERS MAKE IT OPEN SO LOADS OF PEOPLE CAN TEST AN GIVE U FEEDBACK. IN MY MIND THESE PEOPLE USE THE DONATION SCHEME AS A LOOP HOLE TO SCAM PEOPLE OUT OF CASH
whats your views on this let me know. i will soon be moving my sony ericcson port to the madaco forum as only so many good people on xda the rest just want to ripp people off . makes me angry as xda used to be the best forum in the world. but now people use it as to scam money and thats a CRIME
in my opinion, i think ONLY recognized developers should have the donation tool as other people are abusing it and scamming cash out of good honist people

To be fair, nobody is scamming anyone. They're not forcing you to donate and if people choose to do so then i don't see anything wrong with it. I've never seen any instances where people are asking for donations when they haven't even contributed. But like i said, donations aren't forced upon you.
It's not even like you can accidentally hit donate!
Also, what about other devs such as Lowveld who aren't recognised developers?

Agree with Dan.
Plus, with all the hard work and efforts that our Devs put in, There's no harm in asking for a donation (IMHO) ! Remember, all Devs have a life outside of XDA...
And a donation need not be for monetary objectives only (of course, there's money involved).. But, I feel it is a sense of appreciation for all their hard work and a token of respect!
I know U are also a Dev... Keep up the good work!
Peace
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA

Tapur007 said:
Agree with Dan.
Plus, with all the hard work and efforts that our Devs put in, There's no harm in asking for a donation (IMHO) ! Remember, all Devs have a life outside of XDA...
And a donation need not be for monetary objectives only (of course, there's money involved).. But, I feel it is a sense of appreciation for all their hard work and a token of respect!
I know U are also a Dev... Keep up the good work!
Peace
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
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Im not a recognized dev I NEVER ask for donations as its a privalige to be on here helping people out. Im saying it like this. If it NOT a recognized dev. Then u shouldnt ask for donations
Untill u are a recognized dev. I see being on these type of forums as a pleasure not a job. I am not new to CDs as many of u might think. I've been a active member since 2 years. I left the.forum and didn't think I would end up back but here I am.I deleted my old account but I wish I never. Some1 has made some apps and promised all a Rom but says if he don't get any donations he won't do the Rom. To me it seems like he don't have any intentions to make a Rom he just wants the donations makes me very angry to see this

Paul, where are you from?English is not my native language, i don't write very well, i do a lot of typo's and probably i am not very coherent all the time, but
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Regarding your problem for donations from my point of view they are great for the developers.
I allready saw Baadnwz a great developer(ex Desire, Sensation now on the One X) uses the money for buying new phones, or nk111 uses the money to pay his server and the list can go on.
Do you still think this is a scam?
Sorry for the developers that i didn't mention. And in my opinion lowveld should be a recognized developer.
Mod Edit:
Next time think twice about directing comments like that at fellow users please. This is not a place to say "you suck" or " your ___ sucks" or anything like that. This is XDA and a friendly community.
Glad I stumbled across this comment while roaming the forum here, as its not needed

paul.robo said:
Im not a recognized dev I NEVER ask for donations as its a privalige to be on here helping people out. Im saying it like this. If it NOT a recognized dev. Then u shouldnt ask for donations
Untill u are a recognized dev. I see being on these type of forums as a pleasure not a job. I am not new to CDs as many of u might think. I've been a active member since 2 years. I left the.forum and didn't think I would end up back but here I am.I deleted my old account but I wish I never. Some1 has made some apps and promised all a Rom but says if he don't get any donations he won't do the Rom. To me it seems like he don't have any intentions to make a Rom he just wants the donations makes me very angry to see this
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Well, personally I think your point of view, although addressing some points I actually agree on (namely: work should never be dependent on donations), it's a bit over the top.
I don't scam people, and I am very clear on the purpose of asking for donations: buy a new device without having to sell the desire S on the process. Plus, even if you don't agree with the purpose for which I ask donations, I don't (and I think noone else) force you to donate anything.
And for this attitude, you don't need to be a Recognized Developer. You just need to be a decent human being. And fortunately we have lots of them on the DS forums.
Peace

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Paul, where are you from?English is not my native language, i don't write very well, i do a lot of typo's and probably i am not very coherent all the time, but
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Regarding your problem for donations from my point of view they are great for the developers.
I allready saw Baadnwz a great developer(ex Desire, Sensation now on the One X) uses the money for buying new phones, or nk111 uses the money to pay his server and the list can go on.
Do you still think this is a scam?
Sorry for the developers that i didn't mention. And in my opinion lowveld should be a recognized developer.
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put your glasses on

paul.robo said:
put your glasses on
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Paul, I've not been a member on here for very long, although I spent quite a while just reading and hovering. I have also been a member on various other forums of all types for years. I have avoided commenting on this, or your other, rants before, but feel the need to now.
There is absolutely no need for the above comment and it is bordering on offensive. Your posts are very difficult to read - you mix lower-case and upper-case sentences all over the place, miss out punctuation so that multiple sentences become one huge string of words and your spelling is abysmal (I'm not entirely sure if some of it is you deliberately trying to be clever or ‘down with the kids’).
Draghiciandrei started his post by asking where you were from and commenting that his English is not the best. If English is not your first language then you have an excuse for some of it, but you should therefore give him the same leeway that he gave you. If English IS your first language however then you should be putting the effort in to make your posts easier to understand for the multitude of people here who do not speak English well.
I'm not trying to start a war of words here or anything, just putting my two-pence worth into this thread.

Simon.TS.HTC said:
Paul, I've not been a member on here for very long, although I spent quite a while just reading and hovering. I have also been a member on various other forums of all types for years. I have avoided commenting on this, or your other, rants before, but feel the need to now.
There is absolutely no need for the above comment and it is bordering on offensive. Your posts are very difficult to read - you mix lower-case and upper-case sentences all over the place, miss out punctuation so that multiple sentences become one huge string of words and your spelling is abysmal (I'm not entirely sure if some of it is you deliberately trying to be clever or ‘down with the kids’).
Draghiciandrei started his post by asking where you were from and commenting that his English is not the best. If English is not your first language then you have an excuse for some of it, but you should therefore give him the same leeway that he gave you. If English IS your first language however then you should be putting the effort in to make your posts easier to understand for the multitude of people here who do not speak English well.
I'm not trying to start a war of words here or anything, just putting my two-pence worth into this thread.
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get a grip mate if i meant it in any offensive way i would have been more aggressive. :S i put a face next to it u got to be kidding me mate :S seriously u have got to be joking :/ obviously you dont know what the meaning of the word offensive is. it would have been offensive if i had said it like this *** put your ****ing glasses on *** however i did NOT say it like that. i said it like this *** put your glasses on *** in a joking way. im a computor programmer not a bully :/ if u have anything else to say feel free to PM me and we will sort this out as men should ( with kind words )

Actually 'mate' I do know the meaning of the word "offensive". Perhaps you don't and should look here The Free Dictionary
That comment is offensive because it has the capability to offend some people - you trying to claim it is not is eactly the same principle as people who claim they aren't racist despite using racist words because they "don't mean it". As for your comment about
it would have been offensive if i had said it like this *** put your ****ing glasses on ***
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that would have just been downright rude and ignorant.
And, please try to read your own post. Yet again it is very difficult to follow - no capital letters, bad spelling, no punctuation, and constantly using "", ":S" etc instead of the smilies which are a lot clearer and easier to pick out in the writing.
I'm not going to do this on PM as there is no need. I am not the only person who you seem to want to pick a fight with and I respect several of those people that you have argued with enough to understand that I am not the one with the problem.
After speaking to Paul I would ask, respectfully, that nobody else jump onto my comments towards him. I will leave them here as they have been said, but there is no need for this to go any further at all.

I know that sometimes it's best to say nothing, but it's so difficult not to respond to somethings
Although I feel the childish yet perfect response would be WHATEVER!
Step away from your mobile....
Swyped form ym Dersie S unsig XAD Permuim

According to conantroutman, senior mod, I am the same "level" as a recognized developer.
According to XDA Rule # 8, users are allowed to ask to donations in their signatures, "However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for."
Perhaps a better way to have handled this would have been to have clicked on the posters name, and then to have chosen "Add xxxx to Your Ignore List".

Okay I'm here no fear guys.
Now in response to all that has happened here I first want to say thank you to the two individuals that took the spat to PM and stopped it in the public forum. Again PM is where you should take ANY and EVERY disagreement you might have with someone.
Do NOT let me see you starting a pissing contest in the public forum directly attacking users using foul curse words! This is not the place for that and never will be on my watch!
Now as for the topic/thread....I'm okay with it long as you guys continue to keep it civil in here going forward. This topic while can get out of hand easily, is one that is okay to discuss imho.
My personal opinion on the subject though.....
It is more than okay for people to have donation links in their sig's that are not dev's. You dont have to be a Dev to warrant a donation. Many of the themer's and other people that contribute to the community are NOT developers but they provide value to the overall community and if someone wants to donate to them so be it...They might not get much use out of the button, but it is their right to have one if they want...
Now asking or demanding for donations up front will not be tolerated here in any way. There can be a fine line on this with RD's and others using the donation system for their beta's and such before a wide release but thats NOT what I'm talking about here at all. I'm talking about the flat out demanding of a donation before providing a service or doing anything else...If you see that then report the post and I or someone else will handle it.
Any further ?'s see the rules in my signature or PM me.
Again, keep this civil or it will be closed...

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Okay I'm here no fear guys.
Now asking or demanding for donations up front will not be tolerated here in any way. There can be a fine line on this with RD's and others using the donation system for their beta's and such before a wide release but thats NOT what I'm talking about here at all. I'm talking about the flat out demanding of a donation before providing a service or doing anything else...If you see that then report the post and I or someone else will handle it.
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exactly what i meant. I never meant for this to get so out of hand. I should have put more detail and more of a explanation about it. I have posted a thread, Aimed at the people i offended. I am sorry this got so out of control, I will be leaving XDA untill i have my operation and i have Fully recoverd. (Which will be about 6months). When i do recover i will be starting to port roms and apps like i used to ( Thats right i have not just joined xda i used to be here before, I was on the good old sony x8 forum I used to port app's i even made flash player work for sony x8 arm 6 devices i even ported sense to x8, so i am a contributor to xda members, I closed my account back then but i recently joined back up. I would like to say a very nice thanks to Simon.TS.HTC For being so understanding and being just a hell of a nice guy.

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Okay I'm here no fear guys.
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Slightly off-topic, I'm really happy with you, Mr Sgt Slaughter
You are a great civilized mod, and I'm glad you are keeping things in order here, and regularly checking by. I'm happy that you are the new DS mod!
Thanks alot man!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

+1 to that. Maybe the perfect embodiment of the "iron fist in a velvet glove"?

olyloh6696 said:
Slightly off-topic, I'm really happy with you, Mr Sgt Slaughter
You are a great civilized mod, and I'm glad you are keeping things in order here, and regularly checking by. I'm happy that you are the new DS mod!
Thanks alot man!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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To be honest you guys deserve just as much credit b/c i can't venture in here hardly at all to check so i depend on the reported posts...keep up the reporting and things will get handled swiftly i promise.

The thread has been locked on OP's request.
Peace!

[Q] why push the thanks button?

just read a rant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2122219&page=15 posted by a themer/modder who wasnt getting love for his/her work. i absolutely understood the point of the rant. people *****ing at the dude for not timely fixing a minor glitch. geeze i'd be pissed t00
i guess i don't understand the importance of the "thanks" :good: button. is it incentive based? prize money for the top thanks earner. woo-hoo! or is it just an expression of gratitude? forum etiquette? or somehting else?
unfortunately, thinking i havent used the dang thing enough. nor have i made fair use of the pay pal button either. sorry to those from whose work i benefited. i'll be certain to hit both the donate and thanks buttons in the future.
thanks

Its more of a gratitude thing. It also shows on the users profile. It shows good reputation on the forums, and that they are usually helpful. The more thanks, the more helpful people find your posts. That's why usually at the end of a mod or ROM post, you'll find lots of thanks. Its a free way to show gratitude. I've looked into modding and theming and I know how crazy it is. I don't take a second to hesitate when I see something I like. Of course, if you're feeling extra generous, a donation doesn't hurt at all. Like Andy said, he made over $1,000 making mods on the inc2. I never got to donate for anything of his, as I'm a broke college student so I can't spare anything at all. However, I know his is some of the best in the business. He was an insider on many teams who have uber talented devs. A little thanks or donation always helps.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2

As mentioned above, it's all about respect and grattitude. Not everyone can donate money, and sometimes things deserve a little recognition but not quite the monetary kind
From the developer standpoint, think of it as street-cred and they want to earn it.

got it. thanks

markkal123 said:
just read a rant http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2122219&page=15 posted by a themer/modder who wasnt getting love for his/her work. i absolutely understood the point of the rant. people *****ing at the dude for not timely fixing a minor glitch. geeze i'd be pissed t00
i guess i don't understand the importance of the "thanks" :good: button. is it incentive based? prize money for the top thanks earner. woo-hoo! or is it just an expression of gratitude? forum etiquette? or somehting else?
unfortunately, thinking i havent used the dang thing enough. nor have i made fair use of the pay pal button either. sorry to those from whose work i benefited. i'll be certain to hit both the donate and thanks buttons in the future.
thanks
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kind of rude to make a thread about me rather than just PM me..
but whatever..
I don't get paid for someone hitting the thanks button.
It's a sign of respect within the forum.
When you put your free time and effort into a product that someone else is using and enjoying, the least they can do to show they are appreciative is to hit the thanks button, it's exactly that, saying thank you for your work.
I guess it's hard to remember what it's like to NOT know and understand.
I try to put myself back in that position, but when I spend countless hours and many late nights, leaving for a ****ty next work day to put out a theme that I don't even use... I was just kindly asked by someone, so I got to it when I had the time.
Yes I rant time to time, now being one of them, but to all those who truly know me, I think would say I am an alright guy. I can and will be a **** to you if I think it's deserved, but that's me. There's only one andybones lol