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Ok ok before you all start saying that Project Fi is only on Nexus phones hear me out:
If I have an Galaxy S6 and pop a Project Fi sim card in it. What would happen? Will it not work at all or something else will happen? Will it work for all services(talk, text, data) or just some of them and in a limited way?
And assuming that I can use Project Fi on S6 then I have these questions:
Will it effect the cost of my bill at the end of the day? If I use a non-Nexus phone how much more will I be charged and for what exactly?
Oh and the last question: Will it work on all editions of galaxy s6 or t-mobile compatible models only.
I already have an invite but do not want to buy a new phone just for that and my current plan is not that bad.
I just tried this. I put the Project Fi SIM in on Tuesday and waited for my number to be ported. Today I checked the Fi app and it said there was a problem with my SIM card and to contact customer support. Of course, they just hit me with the rhetoric about it not being compatible and that, despite videos showing it working on the S6, the forums say that it stops working after a few days or they start getting a lot of error messages. This doesn't really make sense as it's basically just cellular service, but whatever. It seems they don't want it working on anything other than their flagships, and I'm not buying something I can't afford when I have a better phone in my hand right now. I'll be checking MetroPCS or the like instead to get away from T-Mobile.
I ordered my sim card and did the same thing. Just like you I run into the similar situation.
For activation you can only do it on a nexus phone. They can actually see what kind of phone you have when you activate. Also number porting takes a few seconds to a minute to complete. If it gives the error right away then the problem is with the phone model.
Wonder once activated if it would work?
Galaxy Note 5 On Project FI
I switched Sims between my Note 5 and N 5X on fi, and the Note 5 is fully functional.
Has anyone tried to use Project Fi on an S6, Note or non Nexus device outside of the US?
I have it working on my S6 Edge, but I'm curious if it will work in Europe.
Remember which networks this rides on
I think if you were to use a phone unlocked for Sprint/T-Mobile this would work. Remember that fi rides on Sprint and T-Mobile networks.
I have fi in the UK. However I am using it on a 6p uk version and it works fine
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its working fine in my s6 edge but mms doesn't work
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Hi people,
Been reading the forums for help for a long time - finally decided to join; hopefully will be able to help... I am not a pro - actually quite a newbie; hopefully will become a pro spending enough time here
I am trying to make my SMG920V (Samsung S6 Verizon unlocked) work with Project Fi. It is working but only very poorly.
T-mobile network shows up but disappears intermittently (I changed the APN settings from apn . gishan . net)
Even when it works, I am getting only H or H+, not LTE
Request your help please?!
I would ideally not like to root the phone (my wife uses it and she knows nothing about technology!) but if that is the only option to use all bands (IF that is the problem) then I will; the phone is on 7.0
Looking forward to your help!
Aman
This is my first time back in the world of Android use (as a daily driver) since 2013. I used to be a custom ROM-aholic, but now I just appreciate Android for what it is a mature OS that offers more flexibility than IOS. I wanted to buy a phone outright. And although they have more minuses than other carriers, I wanted to stay with Verizon.
I don't play games on my phone. The only time I ever found it to be choppy was when I used an app, albeit one that is actively updated, that did not play well with my phone. Headset Button Controller either doesn't seem to work with 6.0 or has issues with Moto phones. . It always did a nice job of playing non-google audio apps when then screen was locked. My all-time indespensible Android app is Dogg Catcher (yes, I am podcast nerd). I started having weird freezes on my G4 Plus when using the Headset BC app, especially when unlocking. Once I removed the app, the problems seemed to go away. Setting Dogg Catcher to stay alive seems to fix my problem.
One issue I have is with the VoLTE or what Verizon calls Advanced calling (a subset of a feature Verizon calls HD voice). Apparently, the phone supports VoLTE out of the box. I looked into the chipset specs. However, it seems that Verizon uses a non-standard implementation of HD Voice. Is that correct? I do not see Advanced Calling in my settings menu. I decided to try an ATT sim for kicks. I was able to get LTE (I live in an area with a strong ATT LTE signal). However when I went to make calls -- my phone dropped down to "H" -- 3G -- allowing calls and data. Yes, I know that ATT offers 3G calling / data simultaneously and verizon doesn't.
I talked to two senior level verizon technical service reps this week. Both essentially told me that every carrier implements HD Voice a little differently. The XT1644 phone registers in Verizon's database however, they are not showing that it supports HD Voice. I tried to explain to them that unlocked phones like the Moto X Pure, Nexus 5, and this one -- will not support the fullness of HD Voice, but can set to allow advanced calling. They told me that this wasn't available on their system yet for this model.
For some of you non-US G4 / G4 Plus users -- have you gotten VoLTE working yet? Will it really take a collaboration between Moto and major carriers as I was told?
I have Verizon. The phone supports and does indeed work on Verizon VoLTE. Settings > More > Cellular Networks > Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. Should be on by default. Works fine for me, allows me to call and use data over LTE at the same time.
AT&T does not support VoLTE on non-AT&T phones, so your calls will always fall back to 2G/3G.
At this time, yes VoLTE does depend on a collaboration between the carrier and the OEM. Hopefully that doesn't remain the case.
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I have Verizon. The phone supports and does indeed work on Verizon VoLTE. Settings > More > Cellular Networks > Enhanced 4G LTE Mode. Should be on by default. Works fine for me, allows me to call and use data over LTE at the same time.
AT&T does not support VoLTE on non-AT&T phones, so your calls will always fall back to 2G/3G.
At this time, yes VoLTE does depend on a collaboration between the carrier and the OEM. Hopefully that doesn't remain the case.
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It was a huge fiasco for me with Verizon this week. One CSR told me that I needed a new SIM to get this feature. Local corporate Verizon store would not give me a sim because I was not adding a feature to my account and I wasn't buying anything. I end up talking to two senior level TSR representatives. One didn't really want to help me. The other one said she would submit a request to the "DSM" ( I may be spelling it wrong) department to have this feature turned on. She was supposed to call me back Friday and did not.
I am not wanting this for kicks, I can use this feature in my work. I tried the feature in Settings >> More >> and it does not show up.
Previously, I was using the 2015 (prepay) Moto E on my post pay account. That phone does not support voLTE. I am using the same SIM now. Verizon would not give me a SIM at _____ corp. store. I may go to another corp store if it will make a difference. Also, I cannot add HD voice / advanced calling online in My Verizon for this line.
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Previously, I was using the 2015 (prepay) Moto E on my post pay account. That phone does not support voLTE. I am using the same SIM now. Verizon would not give me a SIM at _____ corp. store. I may go to another corp store if it will make a difference. Also, I cannot add HD voice / advanced calling online in My Verizon for this line.
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I will also add that for being treated so rudely this week, Verizon did give me a $100 bill credit, but I still have not resolve the issue at the heart of my frustration.
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I will also add that for being treated so rudely this week, Verizon did give me a $100 bill credit, but I still have not resolve the issue at the heart of my frustration.
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As of Thursday morning -- I was not able to add the feature HD Voice to my account. Today I am. Problem solved. Phew!!!
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It was a huge fiasco for me with Verizon this week. One CSR told me that I needed a new SIM to get this feature. Local corporate Verizon store would not give me a sim because I was not adding a feature to my account and I wasn't buying anything. I end up talking to two senior level TSR representatives. One didn't really want to help me. The other one said she would submit a request to the "DSM" ( I may be spelling it wrong) department to have this feature turned on. She was supposed to call me back Friday and did not.
I am not wanting this for kicks, I can use this feature in my work. I tried the feature in Settings >> More >> and it does not show up.
Previously, I was using the 2015 (prepay) Moto E on my post pay account. That phone does not support voLTE. I am using the same SIM now. Verizon would not give me a SIM at _____ corp. store. I may go to another corp store if it will make a difference. Also, I cannot add HD voice / advanced calling online in My Verizon for this line.
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Yeah, unfortunately not all CSRs are knowledgeable. Easier to turn to the Internet to look for help lol
Congrats on getting everything working!
I really wanted to US pre-order the G4 Plus 64 GB version and wanted to grab one on release day. I'm seeing way to many issues on connectivity, especially new customers. Verizon and AT&T would be new accounts for me. The issue of only a corporate store can hook up the phone with the rep placing the sim into a demo phone and things might work in a day or so by Moto rep on their main forum. For a $300 phone and a new service, case, screen protector that are all musts. They need to get their issues fixed. It wasn't a surprise this phone was coming out. I've been dealing with a junk no service at home scenario for 4 weeks now waiting on the G4 Plus. I work 12 hour shifts 3rd shift and I can't really find time to drive around back and forth and hope and pray a rep can do some twists and turns with a sim sadly
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I really wanted to US pre-order the G4 Plus 64 GB version and wanted to grab one on release day. I'm seeing way to many issues on connectivity, especially new customers. Verizon and AT&T would be new accounts for me. The issue of only a corporate store can hook up the phone with the rep placing the sim into a demo phone and things might work in a day or so by Moto rep on their main forum. For a $300 phone and a new service, case, screen protector that are all musts. They need to get their issues fixed. It wasn't a surprise this phone was coming out. I've been dealing with a junk no service at home scenario for 4 weeks now waiting on the G4 Plus. I work 12 hour shifts 3rd shift and I can't really find time to drive around back and forth and hope and pray a rep can do some twists and turns with a sim sadly
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This is an issue with Verizon, not with the phone. There isn't much Motorola can do about it besides get mad at Verizon.
There aren't any connectivity issues, the issue is rather with Verizon activating a new SIM card in the device. The workaround is not restricted to corporate stores, but corporate stores do give SIMs for free, while 3rd party authorized retailers make you pay for SIMs. If you're signing up for new service anyway, there's no need to drive around back and forth, just do it all in one go.
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This is an issue with Verizon, not with the phone. There isn't much Motorola can do about it besides get mad at Verizon.
There aren't any connectivity issues, the issue is rather with Verizon activating a new SIM card in the device. The workaround is not restricted to corporate stores, but corporate stores do give SIMs for free, while 3rd party authorized retailers make you pay for SIMs. If you're signing up for new service anyway, there's no need to drive around back and forth, just do it all in one go.
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I know the whole situation and all the options as you basically just re-worded what I said in a few sentences. I've been on the official Moto forums. Not everybody has a working g4 or g4 plus phone right now. It doesn't matter if the phone working on Verizon is a Motorola issure or a Verizon issue. You still can't order a phone and pop in a sim card with a new account and have a working phone. I haven't had to go to a cell phone store to get a phone working in 9 or 10 years maybe longer. Even from memory when the Samsung Blackjack, Moto Razr and 09 IPhone (3g or 3gs can't remember) was plug and play. 2016 buying a phone and having issues from day 1 can't be tolerated from me or anyone else. All these manufacturers, companies, etc are getting clumsy and lazy. Especially the last 2 years. There was a time you could buy a phone and it have no bugs whatsoever. I've owned many phones like this. Maybe 6-12 months issues start to happen. Everything is rushed, From planning to parts to google OS to the manufacturer to the provider. Something seems to always be incomplete. Like lets release 5.0 with a whole bunch of issues so we can get some money rolling in and just release a update when we can. Connectivity issue to me is the phone not connected. Doesn't matter if its a full moon the cause of it. I can't go to Sprint or T-Mobile because the service at home/work is minimal. Verizon is the king in my city and at&t second but at&t pre-paid doesn't have options like there post paid (wifi calling, volte, etc)
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I know the whole situation and all the options as you basically just re-worded what I said in a few sentences. I've been on the official Moto forums. Not everybody has a working g4 or g4 plus phone right now. It doesn't matter if the phone working on Verizon is a Motorola issure or a Verizon issue. You still can't order a phone and pop in a sim card with a new account and have a working phone. I haven't had to go to a cell phone store to get a phone working in 9 or 10 years maybe longer. Even from memory when the Samsung Blackjack, Moto Razr and 09 IPhone (3g or 3gs can't remember) was plug and play. 2016 buying a phone and having issues from day 1 can't be tolerated from me or anyone else. All these manufacturers, companies, etc are getting clumsy and lazy. Especially the last 2 years. There was a time you could buy a phone and it have no bugs whatsoever. I've owned many phones like this. Maybe 6-12 months issues start to happen. Everything is rushed, From planning to parts to google OS to the manufacturer to the provider. Something seems to always be incomplete. Like lets release 5.0 with a whole bunch of issues so we can get some money rolling in and just release a update when we can. Connectivity issue to me is the phone not connected. Doesn't matter if its a full moon the cause of it. I can't go to Sprint or T-Mobile because the service at home/work is minimal. Verizon is the king in my city and at&t second but at&t pre-paid doesn't have options like there post paid (wifi calling, volte, etc)
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The issue is not with Motorola, it's totally and completely an issue with Verizon's system. This issue affects any non-approved phone you bring to Verizon, not just the G4. You should really direct your complaints to Verizon, post on Verizon forums, etc. Motorola can't do anything about it, as they do not have access to Verizon's activation system.
Mobile hotspot
Does the mobile hotspot work out the box for folks with unlimited data or does it require rooting to disable the carrier check?
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Does the mobile hotspot work out the box for folks with unlimited data or does it require rooting to disable the carrier check?
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I have a UDP, hotspot worked out of the box.
One last question, does data and voice work at the same time? It does with my moto pure, but not my nexus 5x.
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One last question, does data and voice work at the same time? It does with my moto pure, but not my nexus 5x.
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Yes, it supports Verizon VoLTE (which enables simultaneous voice and data over LTE).
How was the problem solved? Having the similar issues.
UPDATE: Droid Life confirms unlocked Pixel works on Verizon. :good:
I just wanted some clarification on this.
I've been getting some conflicting information around this question, so I wanted to post it here in case anyone knows.
Can the unlocked Pixel purchased from the Google Store be used on Verizon?
I bought the 5X and 6P unlocked from the Google Store and have used them both on Project Fi and Verizon. I just wanted to know if I could do the same with the Pixel.
Thanks and sorry if this has been explained clearly elsewhere.
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I just wanted some clarification on this.
I've been getting some conflicting information around this question, so I wanted to post it here in case anyone knows.
Can the unlocked Pixel purchased from the Google Store be used on Verizon?
I bought the 5X and 6P unlocked from the Google Store and have used them both on Project Fi and Verizon. I just wanted to know if I could do the same with the Pixel.
Thanks and sorry if this has been explained clearly elsewhere.
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Yes. It is compatible with CDMA and all of Verizon's LTE bands, and the description in the Google store says it's compatible with all major US carriers. However, you won't be able to use features that require Verizon software like wifi calling and VoLTE. Personally, I don't care about those things. I'm on Verizon and I'm seriously considering buying from the Google store.
You'll need an activated Verizon nano SIM card though.
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However, you won't be able to use features that require Verizon software like wifi calling and VoLTE.
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I'm not sure that's true. For example, my unlocked Nexus 6 purchased from Motorola is able to use VoLTE. I don't have wifi calling, but I don't think Nexus 6 has wifi calling at all for Verizon, as it doesn't show up as a supported device: https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/wificalling/
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I'm not sure that's true. For example, my unlocked Nexus 6 purchased from Motorola is able to use VoLTE. I don't have wifi calling, but I don't think Nexus 6 has wifi calling at all for Verizon, as it doesn't show up as a supported device: https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/wificalling/
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You might be right about that. We won't know until someone tries it.
sethwalters said:
I just wanted some clarification on this.
I've been getting some conflicting information around this question, so I wanted to post it here in case anyone knows.
Can the unlocked Pixel purchased from the Google Store be used on Verizon?
I bought the 5X and 6P unlocked from the Google Store and have used them both on Project Fi and Verizon. I just wanted to know if I could do the same with the Pixel.
Thanks and sorry if this has been explained clearly elsewhere.
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Good question. I suspect the answer is you'll be able to use it, the question is just how degraded the experience will be. When the Nexus 6 launched there were several problems with using the unlocked version:
The bring-your-own-device discount did not show up for unlocked Nexus 6, only Verizon-purchased Nexus 6
It was extremely difficult to activate a new SIM on the phone
They did eventually reinstate the discount after many people filed complaints with the FCC.
I didn't follow the 6P/5X launch very closely... how did those work on Verizon? That might give a better clue than the Nexus 6 launch since it's more recent.
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Good question. I suspect the answer is you'll be able to use it, the question is just how degraded the experience will be. When the Nexus 6 launched there were several problems with using the unlocked version:
The bring-your-own-device discount did not show up for unlocked Nexus 6, only Verizon-purchased Nexus 6
It was extremely difficult to activate a new SIM on the phone
They did eventually reinstate the discount after many people filed complaints with the FCC.
I didn't follow the 6P/5X launch very closely... how did those work on Verizon? That might give a better clue than the Nexus 6 launch since it's more recent.
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If it's like it was on my 6p, then plug in your nano sim and go! I've had zero issues with Big Red over the last year, and Volte is working fine and dandy [emoji106]
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If it's like it was on my 6p, then plug in your nano sim and go! I've had zero issues with Big Red over the last year, and Volte is working fine and dandy [emoji106]
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To clarify, you got your 6P unlocked from Google/whoever, not Verizon? And Verizon is giving you the $25/month discount (assuming you are not under contract)?
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stevexyz0 said:
To clarify, you got your 6P unlocked from Google/whoever, not Verizon? And Verizon is giving you the $25/month discount (assuming you are not under contract)?
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You are correct. Got the phone from Google, plugged in my Verizon sim and it's still working fine. I'm not under contract, I never am, however, not seeing any $25 discount from Big Red. Guess they keep that for themselves [emoji16]
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Pardon me, I'm from Canada where we haven't had any CDMA for years. Aren't Sprint and Verizon CDMA whole at&t and T-Mobile are GSM? How would one phone work across all the networks? And, at least last time we had CDMA up here, you didn't use a SIM card with it. Has that changed? Just curious, it doesn't affect me at all.
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You are correct. Got the phone from Google, plugged in my Verizon sim and it's still working fine. I'm not under contract, I never am, however, not seeing any $25 discount from Big Red. Guess they keep that for themselves [emoji16]
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I wouldn't call paying $300/year extra "fine". You might want to look into it, I believe you have to request the discount. It's been a while since I dealt with this though.
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I wouldn't call paying $300/year extra "fine". You might want to look into it, I believe you have to request the discount. It's been a while since I dealt with this though.
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Good info my friend. Thanks for the tip [emoji106]
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Badger50 said:
If it's like it was on my 6p, then plug in your nano sim and go! I've had zero issues with Big Red over the last year, and Volte is working fine and dandy [emoji106]
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Hey dude... I recently switched over to Verizon, and have had a 6P since launch last year. Was wondering, what exactly is voLTE, is there something special that has to be done to make it work, and do you know IF there is any way to get wifi calling to work? I do tend to need it since at times I don't get good reception...
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voLTE is just voice over LTE which you already have which basically means voice and data simultaneously. And no WiFi calling calling available on Verizon. At least not to my knowledge anyway [emoji106]
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Just to add...
My son's 6p works great on Verizon. He has VoLTE and get's the non contract discount. Never had a problem with it. I had the original Google Play store Nexus 6 and ran into problems initially. But like someone else stated, everything is fine now. I even bought an unlocked one not too long ago and had no issues with it. I don't think we will have any problems with the Pixels.
Droid Life confirms unlocked Pixel works on Verizon. :good:
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To clarify, you got your 6P unlocked from Google/whoever, not Verizon? And Verizon is giving you the $25/month discount (assuming you are not under contract)?
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I also want to confirm that with the Nexus 5X from Google (rooted and custom ROM) works flawlessly on Verizon and I get the $25/mo access discount on the line. VoLTE works great. I just select the Enhanced 4G LTE Mode under Cellular networks menu on the settings.
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Hey dude... I recently switched over to Verizon, and have had a 6P since launch last year. Was wondering, what exactly is voLTE, is there something special that has to be done to make it work, and do you know IF there is any way to get wifi calling to work? I do tend to need it since at times I don't get good reception...
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VoLTE is Voice over LTE. It means voice calls are transmitted over the new LTE network instead of the legacy CDMA network (or GSM in the case of carriers besides Verizon/Sprint).
It's important because if your phone has only a half-duplex modem, as most recent CDMA phones starting around the time of Droid Turbo and Nexus 6 do, you can't conduct a voice call (circuit switched) and have an LTE data connection (packet switched) at the same time. (Interestingly GSM carriers can do a GSM voice stream and LTE data stream at the same time with a half-duplex modem since there's a standard for doing that, but it's not possible with CDMA and LTE without a more expensive full-duplex modem.)
How can you tell if VoLTE is working for you? Turn off wifi for the purpose of the test, if you're connected to a wifi network (you're testing whether you can do data over the cell network, not wifi, while a call is ongoing). Verify the "LTE" logo shows up next to the cell signal strength indicator. Place a voice call. If the "LTE" logo disappears while the voice call is ongoing, you don't have VoLTE. If it remains, you're good. Most importantly, try using data e.g. web browser over cellular data while on a voice call.
What if the VoLTE test doesn't work? On your My Verizon account, go to My Plan & Services -> Manage Products & Apps , and make sure "HD Voice" (they used to call it Advanced Calling) is enabled. On your Nexus Settings, go to Wireless & Networks -> More -> Cellular Networks, and turn on "Enhanced 4G LTE Mode" if it isn't already. Note that turning on HD Voice on your Verizon account requires you to switch to either Basic or Premium Visual Voicemail -- the old fashioned voice mail doesn't work with it.
What's the difference between VoLTE and HD Voice? VoLTE is about the connection from your phone to the Verizon tower, and it applies no matter whom you are calling; it enables simultaneous voice and data. HD Voice is a high-bandwidth codec for much better sounding voice calls, but the other end has to support it too, so it only works if you have VoLTE (HD Voice over non-LTE is theoretically possible but Verizon doesn't support it) AND if the person you are calling supports HD Voice too (e.g. another recent Nexus or iPhone that's correctly configured). You can tell if HD Voice is working because the "HD" icon will appear in the dialer AFTER THE OTHER PERSON PICKS UP THE CALL, but you won't even need to look for the icon because the call will sound so vastly better that it will be obvious.
What about Wifi calling on Verizon? They actually DO support it, but not on Nexus devices. Here is their FAQ and list of supported devices, which does not include Nexus 6/6P. I have personally seen it working on a Verizon iPhone so I know they have it. And, according to this, the Pixel will support wifi calling on Verizon!
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Pardon me, I'm from Canada where we haven't had any CDMA for years. Aren't Sprint and Verizon CDMA whole at&t and T-Mobile are GSM? How would one phone work across all the networks? And, at least last time we had CDMA up here, you didn't use a SIM card with it. Has that changed? Just curious, it doesn't affect me at all.
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The Pixel, along with many "international" phones, supports both CDMA and GSM networks. And yes, CDMA carriers like Verizon started using SIM cards several years ago. I think it's necessary in order to offer LTE compatibility, but I don't know the details.
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The Pixel, along with many "international" phones, supports both CDMA and GSM networks. And yes, CDMA carriers like Verizon started using SIM cards several years ago. I think it's necessary in order to offer LTE compatibility, but I don't know the details.
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LTE is GSM based at it's core, so basically yes LTE is the reason for CDMA carriers adding sim cards.
CDMA will eventually disappear completely as VOLTE replaces 2g and 3g for both voice and data transmission.
Wi-Fi calling is the only question, but even if it requires some proprietary VZW bull, an unlocked bootloader should let us flash their image if it ended up being necessary, but that's a last resort I don't expect to face...
Hey all, considering getting a new phone, and this one seems like a beast. Currently have a pixel 2XL. On Verizon.
given that there aren't many choices for an unlocked bootloader on Verizon, how is this one running? Call quality okay? Any problems with the CDMA data? with all those things in mind, any advice on what model or what source I should use to purchase the phone? Thanks.
Running fine, the unlocked version works on all the carriers, popped a sprint Sim and it worked for 30 seconds before Sim locked up unforantly no support on sprint unless one plus 7 pro 5g. T-mobile was terrible what ever reason, full bars 1mb speeds or call couldn't be placed. Best place to buy is direct oneplus.com
Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
id love to know about the sim settings. im on verizon... phone works better than i thought it would. I expected more areas with poor to no reception... instead i basically get the same coverage i did with my s10, but if i can make it better, i sure want to.
thanks
spencbain said:
Yes it does. Got mine from OnePlus website. But Id recommend looking into how to tweak the sim cards settings to work better on verizon. Once I did that, ive been getting way faster network speeds. If you need help doing that let me know
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Likewise I would love to hear the tweaks for Verizon.
There is no cdma data. I've not missed it much except in the forests of Oregon. Turning on roaming got me service though on the extended network.
WiFi calling and Verizon video chat doesn't work.
Other than the pixel, about the only other choice on Verizon would be an unbranded Moto.
If you're using either Straight Talk, or Tracfone with their Verizon SIM, I would avoid the Unlocked Pixel 7 & 7 Pro for right now. I'm not sure if it's the phones themselves, or an issue with the carrier, or a combination of both, but it seems they're not compatible. I got my 7 Pro on Wednesday and tried using my ST Verizon SIM and it wouldn't work. I'm coming from a Oneplus 9 Pro and the SIM works just fine.
I say it could be an issue with either the phone, or with ST/TF because when I contacted Google Support to initiate an exchange, the only phone they would let me order with my RMA was the Google Fi version. I contacted support again about not being able to order the Unlocked version. I sent them a screenshot of my order email and a picture of the phones box with the SKU, all of which pointed to the phone being the Unlocked version. They agreed and I'm now waiting for them to resolve the issue of me not being able to buy the Unlocked version through my RMA request. So maybe there could be an issue on Googles end with the Unlocked version of the pixel 7/7 Pro.
I also say it could be an issue with ST/TF, becasue Verizon has recently bought Tracfone and all of their subsidiaries, Straight Talk being one of them. Because of this, I'm not sure if they've basically merged the services to the point where you would need the Verizon version of the phone in order for it to work. This is just speculation on my part though. I did contact Straight Talk support first, where they checked my IMEI/ICCID numbers, which matched what they were seeing on their end. They also ran me through the usual troubleshooting list, with nothing fixing the issue.
Here's a link to a couple threads with people having the same issue. The first one is one I posted the other day:
https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y2erhe/is_anyone_else_using_a_straight_talk_verizon_sim/
https://reddit.com/r/StraightTalk/comments/y3cq9s/upgrading_to_pixel_7_byop/
If anyone is actually using a Straight Talk/Tracfone Verizon SIM in their P7/P7 Pro, please, leave a comment and let me know how you got it to work..
wellkevi01 said:
If you're using either Straight Talk, or Tracfone with their Verizon SIM, I would avoid the Unlocked Pixel 7 & 7 Pro for right now. I'm not sure if it's the phones themselves, or an issue with the carrier, or a combination of both, but it seems they're not compatible. I got my 7 Pro on Wednesday and tried using my ST Verizon SIM and it wouldn't work. I'm coming from a Oneplus 9 Pro and the SIM works just fine.
I say it could be an issue with either the phone, or with ST/TF because when I contacted Google Support to initiate an exchange, the only phone they would let me order with my RMA was the Google Fi version. I contacted support again about not being able to order the Unlocked version. I sent them a screenshot of my order email and a picture of the phones box with the SKU, all of which pointed to the phone being the Unlocked version. They agreed and I'm now waiting for them to resolve the issue of me not being able to buy the Unlocked version through my RMA request. So maybe there could be an issue on Googles end with the Unlocked version of the pixel 7/7 Pro.
I also say it could be an issue with ST/TF, becasue Verizon has recently bought Tracfone and all of their subsidiaries, Straight Talk being one of them. Because of this, I'm not sure if they've basically merged the services to the point where you would need the Verizon version of the phone in order for it to work. This is just speculation on my part though. I did contact Straight Talk support first, where they checked my IMEI/ICCID numbers, which matched what they were seeing on their end. They also ran me through the usual troubleshooting list, with nothing fixing the issue.
Here's a link to a couple threads with people having the same issue. The first one is one I posted the other day:
https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y2erhe/is_anyone_else_using_a_straight_talk_verizon_sim/
https://reddit.com/r/StraightTalk/comments/y3cq9s/upgrading_to_pixel_7_byop/
If anyone is actually using a Straight Talk/Tracfone Verizon SIM in their P7/P7 Pro, please, leave a comment and let me know how you got it to work..
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I am having the same issue with the phone reading the SIM Data just fine but will not connect to any cell towers, I did a bunch of research and there are several people with this same issue and some report doing a software update on the phone resolved their problem. I have not been as lucky as these people as I still have the issue with my phone.
As for the "Verizon" version of the phone there is no such thing for the P7P as the unlocked version and verizon version are the same model number for the phone which includes the 5G mmWave.
The update takes over an hour so be prepared for that
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I am having the same issue with the phone reading the SIM Data just fine but will not connect to any cell towers, I did a bunch of research and there are several people with this same issue and some report doing a software update on the phone resolved their problem. I have not been as lucky as these people as I still have the issue with my phone.
As for the "Verizon" version of the phone there is no such thing for the P7P as the unlocked version and verizon version are the same model number for the phone which includes the 5G mmWave.
The update takes over an hour so be prepared for that
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Oh yea, I already tried the update(didn't fix the issue) the other day, and yes, it took over an hour to install.
There are lots of compatibility issues. I tried signing up for eSIM on a bunch of MVNOs and prepaid plans last night and to my amazement the only one that worked was AT&T Prepaid -- and it's not supposed to work with Pixels on the activation portal.
wellkevi01 said:
If you're using either Straight Talk, or Tracfone with their Verizon SIM, I would avoid the Unlocked Pixel 7 & 7 Pro for right now. I'm not sure if it's the phones themselves, or an issue with the carrier, or a combination of both, but it seems they're not compatible. I got my 7 Pro on Wednesday and tried using my ST Verizon SIM and it wouldn't work. I'm coming from a Oneplus 9 Pro and the SIM works just fine.
I say it could be an issue with either the phone, or with ST/TF because when I contacted Google Support to initiate an exchange, the only phone they would let me order with my RMA was the Google Fi version. I contacted support again about not being able to order the Unlocked version. I sent them a screenshot of my order email and a picture of the phones box with the SKU, all of which pointed to the phone being the Unlocked version. They agreed and I'm now waiting for them to resolve the issue of me not being able to buy the Unlocked version through my RMA request. So maybe there could be an issue on Googles end with the Unlocked version of the pixel 7/7 Pro.
I also say it could be an issue with ST/TF, becasue Verizon has recently bought Tracfone and all of their subsidiaries, Straight Talk being one of them. Because of this, I'm not sure if they've basically merged the services to the point where you would need the Verizon version of the phone in order for it to work. This is just speculation on my part though. I did contact Straight Talk support first, where they checked my IMEI/ICCID numbers, which matched what they were seeing on their end. They also ran me through the usual troubleshooting list, with nothing fixing the issue.
Here's a link to a couple threads with people having the same issue. The first one is one I posted the other day:
https://reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y2erhe/is_anyone_else_using_a_straight_talk_verizon_sim/
https://reddit.com/r/StraightTalk/comments/y3cq9s/upgrading_to_pixel_7_byop/
If anyone is actually using a Straight Talk/Tracfone Verizon SIM in their P7/P7 Pro, please, leave a comment and let me know how you got it to work..
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Pixel 7 with the Straight Talk Verizon SIM here. Works fine on my Pixel 6.
I also tried the latest Pixel 7 software update, and it did not resolve the issue.
For what it's worth, I just contacted Google support. The representative told me they did not have any reports of this issue yet. I directed them to this post as well as another under the GooglePixel subreddit and one under the StraightTalk subreddit. I submitted all of my information to them and sent screenshots of the SIM not connecting. They are escalating the issue.
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Pixel 7 with the Straight Talk Verizon SIM here. Works fine on my Pixel 6.
I also tried the latest Pixel 7 software update, and it did not resolve the issue.
For what it's worth, I just contacted Google support. The representative told me they did not have any reports of this issue yet. I directed them to this post as well as another under the GooglePixel subreddit and one under the StraightTalk subreddit. I submitted all of my information to them and sent screenshots of the SIM not connecting. They are escalating the issue.
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Just took my phone back to Best Buy. They had some more in stock so I tried another one straight out of the box without doing the update and that one is not reading my SIM and connecting to the towers either..
Google Fi sim has issues for me. Flashed latest Oct factory and BL unlock and root. Let sit overnight and installed sim. Looks like at moment of sim registration to cellular enabling it causes a reboot. Tried a few times and sometimes airplane mode would be on, and no sim (blank) or times just bootloop cycling. Removing sim, bootloop cycling stopped. Then airplane mode, but wifi can be on. So reflash latest again, no root. Same thing happening.
Support still clueless and escalation has begun.
Sim back in my 6a and all is fine.
I do know some data is pushed into system upon a Fi sim insertion been that way since my pixel 3. My local coverage is us cellular which requires a locked BL, but fortunately on Fi it works without a locked BL.
So thought to add, likely we need a immediate G side update...
https://www.reddit.com/r/TotalWireless/comments/xzfacx/pixel_7_pro/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TotalWireless/comments/y405wm/pixel_7_pro_issues/
Same issues with Total by Verizon (Total Wireless, another former tracfone) on my Pixel 7 as well as many others. Multiple sims and another carrier sim verified working in my phone.
Cross-posting this from reddit-
Brief update for everyone in the thread or lurking- Talked to Google support just now.
The tech I spoke explained that this is now a known widespread issue that has been escalated and is "top priority" (his words) for the engineers.
He documented my IMEI and added it to the ongoing ticket. I should be getting a follow-up email sometime in the future when a workaround is found.
I'd recommend calling to do the same ASAP to make sure that they are aware how widespread the issue is.
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Google Fi sim has issues for me. Flashed latest Oct factory and BL unlock and root. Let sit overnight and installed sim. Looks like at moment of sim registration to cellular enabling it causes a reboot. Tried a few times and sometimes airplane mode would be on, and no sim (blank) or times just bootloop cycling. Removing sim, bootloop cycling stopped. Then airplane mode, but wifi can be on. So reflash latest again, no root. Same thing happening.
Support still clueless and escalation has begun.
Sim back in my 6a and all is fine.
I do know some data is pushed into system upon a Fi sim insertion been that way since my pixel 3. My local coverage is us cellular which requires a locked BL, but fortunately on Fi it works without a locked BL.
So thought to add, likely we need a immediate G side update...
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I am using it on Fi coming from my Pixel 4 XL. Instead of moving the sim card from my old phone I decided to use eSIM with this one and leave the card in the old one and it's working perfectly.
Excellent news ....for some.
I have many many devices on at any one moment and using the SIM vs eSIM allows me to keep the other non-phone devices on. Yes I could disable eSIM and still leave on. Unfortunately since I also reboot, flash different modules, roms, and in general leave only one as the sim activated device... Honestly if this is now a new thing, disclosure would be nice. No other pixel I've owned requires eSIM only. I will have to rethink my G. Fi future. Fortunately I'm now free of Fi device payments for purchase.
Edit update-- Seems on a Google Fi SIM that was used on my pixels 3, 4a, 4a5g, 6, 6a (2) working just fine...was the problem with 7 pro.
No good answer from Fi CS but they said to use a never used Fi sim. Which I had on hand.
Normal first SIM start and log in, works fine on 7 pro. Removed and now back on my 6a and working correctly. I guess... something is provisioned on carrier/sim/ install?
My answer is likely only helpful for Fi user base.
Total by Verizon (formerly total wireless). Having same issue. Pixel 7 won't connect to network, I've worked with their tech support for the past 18 hours with no luck. At this point I've reverted back to using my old phone and if this doesn't get resolved in the next week or so, I will be returning my pixel 7 as it's no use to me in its current form.
Semi-interesting thing.
I found an old straight talk AT&T SIM so I tried to activate that.
The Straight talk site accepted the SIM card number, but my IMEI was rejected. Either they are flat out saying it is incompatible now or ST has temporarily stopped Pixel 7 devices from attempting to activate until it's fixed. At least they seem to be aware?
Here's the message-
Our system shows that your phone will not work with Straight Talk’s service. Do you have another handset you would like to try? Or you can always check out our phone store to see what's available for purchase.
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Go to prepaidcompare.net and find a new MVNO. All the TracFone brands have gone to hell since Verizon took them over.
I know some will not care to hear this, but it's probably worth posting (for the sake of those readers who might be wondering) that prepaid Verizon is indeed working without issue.
This isn't a vote or an ad for VZW.
I usually go with whatever is least expensive that meets my needs (Red Pocket, Straight Talk, Mint, Google Fi, Visible have all gotten my business at some point) but VZW is the only carrier with decent coverage at my current workplace.
I'm in the same boat of needing Verizon. I plan to check out US Mobile. Good pricing and esim capable (working with P7P, not with P7 right now) alont with a 10 day trial.
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I know some will not care to hear this, but it's probably worth posting (for the sake of those readers who might be wondering) that prepaid Verizon is indeed working without issue.
This isn't a vote or an ad for VZW.
I usually go with whatever is least expensive that meets my needs (Red Pocket, Straight Talk, Mint, Google Fi, Visible have all gotten my business at some point) but VZW is the only carrier with decent coverage at my current workplace.
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Are you locked or unlocked? Would be nice to know, unlockable device is my requirements. Having another good signal provider for my home would be nice, currently Verizon is one.
I couldn't in the past get Verizon because of the locked part...
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I know some will not care to hear this, but it's probably worth posting (for the sake of those readers who might be wondering) that prepaid Verizon is indeed working without issue.
This isn't a vote or an ad for VZW.
I usually go with whatever is least expensive that meets my needs (Red Pocket, Straight Talk, Mint, Google Fi, Visible have all gotten my business at some point) but VZW is the only carrier with decent coverage at my current workplace.
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FWIW, US Mobile Warp 5G SIM uses Verizon (and even gets the same priority Verizon postpaid customers get if you use a 5G device unlike Verizon prepaid which is deprioritized to last network priority) and I was even able to activate my eSIM on their service with no problem.
Unfortunately, Verizon sucks here, so the trial is going to go to waste, but I tried a bunch of MVNO and carrier prepaid options and only AT&T Prepaid and US Mobile worked.
kkjb said:
Are you locked or unlocked? Would be nice to know, unlockable device is my requirements. Having another good signal provider for my home would be nice, currently Verizon is one.
I couldn't in the past get Verizon because of the locked part...
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The Pixel 7 Pro supports all of Verizon's bands including mmWave no matter if you get it locked from them or unlocked elsewhere. Verizon added the Pixel 7 Pro to their database from day one because of that mmWave support.
I might have used the wrong word, I meant can the bootloader be unlocked and multiple devices. My problem with Verizon was imei dependent. Could not use a Verizon sim on multiple devices.